Knowledge Fight - #912: March 22, 2024

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to find Alex discussing his recent tweet about Gaza, then responding to breaking news of a terror attack in Moscow....

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Starting point is 00:01:04 bit about Alex Joe Indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan Jordan quick question for you. So what's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today is I believe it's been over a month since you declared spring had sprung Yes, I believe it has been well over a month and it was sweatshirt weather It was very exciting because it was in the 60s high 60s even yeah pretty pretty nice I know it's been cold snowing snowed the other day knowing I'm gonna continue I would imagine yeah But it's not just schadenfreude and like haha You're the groundhog of
Starting point is 00:01:39 This leads me to I had a can of soup the other day, Okay. I was like, yeah, it's cold out soup time Sure, so I decided to have a soup and I try it so I'm a fan. Okay, fine Look, I don't have I'm not I'm not the most adventurous person in the world comes to food I'm not a great cook. So I'll go with a Campbell's chunky soup. I'll go with the chicken noodle It happens sure. I love it. Yeah, it's been there for a long time. It's simple because it's good. Yeah. People like it. Totally.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Fine. Yeah. I was at the store and I saw they have a new one. Oh no. Spicy chicken noodle. And so I tried it and it's actually kind of spicy. It's pretty good. Oh yeah?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Yep. So anyway, that's my bright spot. It was not underwhelming. I thought it was going to be like, oh, tiny little bit of spice. Yeah. But it was good. It's good.
Starting point is 00:02:23 That's nice. It does seem strange. You know, like, uh, the Campbell's chunky chicken noodle soup been been around for a long, long time. This is the first time they've tried putting spice in it. I think so. No spices before previously. No salt, no pepper. First time they were like, what did we put some of that stuff in there that I've been hearing about on the TV shows? I find a lot of the times when things have spicy counterparts, they're like, they don't mean it.
Starting point is 00:02:48 No. They don't have the heart. Yeah. But this warmed me up on a cold March Chicago day. So anyway, what's your bright spot? My bright spot is yesterday when we're recording this. My wife and I celebrated our second anniversary. Happy anniversary.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Second wedding anniversary. We were married two years now. Wow. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. What's the traditional second anniversary gift? No idea. Pearls? No idea.
Starting point is 00:03:15 What we did, she got me some nice flowers and I took care of five dogs for a week, including her. So, we did good for our anniversary, but we cooked a really nice meal last night together. It was awesome Uh-huh, what'd you make? We made steak and Brussels sprouts and bacon and some crispy shallots on top of those. That's the traditional second anniversary I mean it is for us for from now on because that was amazing. Okay, so I'm looking this up. Sure. What is it cotton? Cotton so like sheets yeah probably yeah
Starting point is 00:03:45 yeah second anniversary traditionally right right right right modern okay China you have to buy a country set no oh you gotta buy her a country uh-huh hmm that was a big one yeah could I start small like I don't know Luxembourg France yeah you probably could do that okay they really up the ante for the modern because like I think cotton probably is a Little cheaper than China sets usually first anniversary traditionally is paper and then it got upgraded clocks It got upgraded it went from paper to clocks. That's a little weird. That is odd who makes these rules
Starting point is 00:04:20 So you're saying that she got you flowers? Yes, she was way off on that. That's the fourth anniversary Rules so you're saying that she got you flowers. Yes. She was way off on that. That's the fourth anniversary Jesus Christ you guys are all over the place. So many goddamn rules with this whole shit. It is it's an institution That's based on rules, and that's the only reason society stays Cohesive can't I just own a woman isn't that what marriage has always been about the traditional sixth anniversary Personal ownership always been about the traditional sixth anniversary personal ownership so oh Britain Jordan today so to go over and we're gonna be talking about the 22nd right which is Friday's episode a lot of stuff it happened a lot of breaking news sure actually some news breaks while Alex is on air. In the middle of the show is when the attack on Moscow concert happens.
Starting point is 00:05:11 So we get to see that unfold in kind of real time on Alex's show. So we'll get down to business on this and all of the ins and outs of that. But first let's say hello to some new wonks. That's a great idea. So first, happy birthday Noor and Lulu. Thank you so much You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you next. Hey Heather. Check this out. Zob Romby Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I heard Dracula the other day That sucks
Starting point is 00:05:41 Anyway, cheers from Portugal Joe. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And Mackenzie, enemies forever. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. We have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Abbey Get Your Cat Tyler to stop eating fucking
Starting point is 00:06:00 plastic. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I don't like to hype things. But people are designed to hype. I am going to paint once a week on air. And I'm gonna let callers call in. We'll also take emails and request what you want to see me paint. 123 Matt Damon. There you go. Party time. I'm gonna get in your guts. And the Nazis, in my view, were thugs that shook people down to a lot of really bad things.
Starting point is 00:06:30 But they did good things, too. We're gonna stop dissing the Nazis all the time. Okay. I'm thinking about doing some shows, too, where I run the whole thing myself, just hit record, and sit in the dark with just a few candles and candlelight and talk about the nature of the world universe. I mean, you know, a big old juicy ribeye folks is as good as, you know, sex with your wife. I mean, let's just get down to reality here.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I'm going to go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy in about 45 days. America sucks. We're all racist. It's over. It doesn't mean I want to go live, say, in some places in Asia where you get off the plane over there, folks. They karate chop you.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Thank you so much. Thank you very much. So Alex starts off the show here on Friday. And looming in the background is that prior to this, he had posted, there was a video that had come out of drones killing four civilians in Gaza. Right. And Alex had posted the video of this saying Israel has lost the high ground. come out of drones killing four civilians in Gaza. And Alex had posted the video of this saying Israel's lost the high ground and people had really responded to this.
Starting point is 00:07:31 It was all over social media. People were saying congratulations, you've been outflanked by Alex Jones. These kinds of things. So there was a very large groundswell of attention that Alex was getting from this as he comes into studio on Friday it is it is always nice when you see stuff being used as a prop You know stuff like this to be used as a prop by social media people to kind of argue with each other That's that's just So Alex has this
Starting point is 00:08:03 Going on and he starts the show by discussing his post on social media. Right. We have Israel pushing in the last few months, since October, everyone into southern Gaza, and then indiscriminately bombing men, women, and children. This is destroying Israel's image forever in the world view.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Why are they doing it? Why did Israel stand down? I'm going to be laying all of this out just because I don't hate Israel. Does not mean I support what Israel is doing, just like I love America, but I didn't support much of what we did in 2003 in Iraq and other areas. It's just unbelievable. And I put out footage that they admit is real. It was leaked from the Israeli defense ministry because some of their people are
Starting point is 00:08:50 upset of what's clearly teenage kids. They look kind of autistic wandering around in the middle of the road in Southern Gaza and they get killed by drones. And it's right out of something from Terminator Skynet. We have the up close, very graphic footage of this. This is footage you're seeing from far away. And immediately I got hit by hundreds of thousands of comments, literally, saying it went viral. Millions and millions, tens of millions of views, like six million views on my my ex account, but it got picked up everywhere. This morning it was 40 million
Starting point is 00:09:21 views in different versions of what I said. People bl out and it was, Oh, these are Hamas. You're covering up for Hamas now. No Hamas has tunnels under the ground. They don't walk down the middle of the street. So it's simply insane and it's wrong. And I'm going to read you the definition of genocide. This is genocide. And I've got hours if you'd like of Israeli television saying we're going to genocide
Starting point is 00:09:48 them all. And Netanyahu quoting out of the Bible, the verses where you're meant to go kill all your enemies. They go, well, in World War II, we carpet bombed civilians. There was an up close video of it happening. So I'm a little troubled by that line of thinking that Alex seems to have, that somehow atrocities, they're committed, they only count if there's up close video of it. Yeah, I mean nobody knew until later.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Except people did know. I mean I don't understand how that's okay. It's not. That's not okay. It's not. But it is a strange place for his brain to go. Yeah, it's weird to think it. That's weird. Yeah. But you know, maybe we all think weird things from brain to go. Yeah, it's weird to think it. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah. But, you know, maybe we all think weird things from time to time. Sure. He has to speak extemporaneously for a long time. It's incredibly weird to say it. To say it is crazy. So in the last few days, people have responded quite a bit to a post that Alex made on Twitter where he called Israel's actions genocide and said that it needs to stop, and the responses
Starting point is 00:10:44 to this have been very interesting. On the most basic level, Alex is making a point that a lot of people agree with, and it's a view that a lot of people across the political aisle from Alex gravitate towards. It's good and understandable to recognize that Alex is opposed to the Israeli government's actions, but it's important to not pretend that he actually has a good position on this. If you think that Alex gives a shit about the people in Gaza, you are wrong. Alex believes that Israel stood down and allowed the October 7th attack to happen so that they would have a pretext to carry out this war, which is actually part of a globalist plot
Starting point is 00:11:16 in order to send a bunch of Islamic immigrants into the United States who would be Hamas Hezbollah sleeper cells for the globalists to use against the American public. Alex's feelings about Gaza cannot be disentangled from his anti-immigrant positions. He doesn't talk about this issue a ton and when he does it pretty much always leads back to a position that boils down to, sure I don't like what Israel is doing but I don't want them here. It's a bedrock of this issue for him, this feeling of I don't want them here. I see a lot of people using Alex's tweet as a means of criticizing folks on the left
Starting point is 00:11:48 for having bad takes on Gaza. And I understand that impulse fully. In most circles, the name Alex Jones is basically code for a person who's an asshole and wrong about everything. So it's a dunk on other folks to essentially say you're more wrong than the asshole who's wrong about everything. But I would caution people that it might not be worth it to use Alex in that way it plays into His it's just and quite a bit. Yeah, I mean it's
Starting point is 00:12:14 We're just never gonna get there right it's like put him in a put him in a dome I'm telling you domes we can enjoy we can visit him, but you can't have him out and about Do you know do you suggest that it would be good to have him have a residency at the dome? Oh? I don't know. I mean I would suggest that if we lock the doors from the outside. He's definitely going to mm-hmm Yeah, he'll put on a show So yeah, I I think that people obviously are responding to this in a way that is probably not taking into account his full position. And that's kind of intentional, I think, on Alex's part.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And another thing that you need to really recognize is if you look at that tweet, there's no way Alex wrote it. Not because he wouldn't say something like that, but because their syntax... It's spelled correctly. Right. It's not his voice at all. And, you know, I think give him too much credit even when you use him as a cudgel. Yeah, because, and here's the like, fucking nail in that coffin. There's no end to the Russia shit. There's no end to the apologia for oh, no no no Russia's actually right
Starting point is 00:13:26 There's no atrocity that Putin could commit that would kick him off team Russia So this is not even about what Israel is doing no this is about what's okay for Alex to say out loud Really yeah, this is it's about where we are in a conversation on social media Yeah, so he gets off this topic although It's about where we are in a conversation on social media. Yeah. So he gets off this topic, although he will come back to it, because there's some other headlines that I thought he was going to actually spend more time on, and it turns out they are just things he randomly saw in his stack. Massive news.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Global fertility crisis threatens 97% of world population. Top scientists warn world population to fall for first time since the black death 600 years ago. So these are two headlines about the same research. One of the headlines is from Sputnik and the others from the Telegraph, but it all traces back to a paper published in the Lancet titled, quote, global fertility in 204 countries and territories 1950 to 2021 with forecasts to 2100, a comprehensive demographic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2021.
Starting point is 00:14:29 When Alex says that this will affect 97% of the population, that's a reflection that the research found that 97% of the countries they modeled will have fertility rates under 2.1, the traditionally accepted replacement rate by 2100. The researchers used a complex model that includes varying scenarios like meeting the global contraceptive need and the implementation of pronatal policies, and according to their projections, even doing everything you can to encourage births isn't going to fully turn these numbers around. You can do some stuff to help, but that's probably not going to work.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Under their assessment, it's not the end of the world or anything, but governments are encouraged to consider the implications for policy and do things like rethink our relationship with immigration and implement Pro-natal policies like offering parental leave and tax incentives Alex doesn't like that stuff. So, you know, it's just this is just a doom headline, right? 97% of the world's fucked if you so so their paper is kind of like this, like if you make it so it's not the single worst financial decision of your life to have a child, then people will be more likely to have a child. It will make, according to their modeling, it'll make people more likely to, but may not stop most countries from dropping below 2.1. Right, right, right. Because, boy, it's really that whole maintaining control over women
Starting point is 00:15:50 thing. You just can't do it these days. That's one of the big variables that they explored was educational attainment for women and the impact that that has. Yeah, you can't hit them in the head and keep them in your cave anymore. That's going to mess with the global population. So the not this I thought was going to be a big thing because it's one of his big headlines. Right. And then he had another one that I thought was going to be big. And so here's that huge thing happened yesterday. We barely even mentioned it should have covered it more
Starting point is 00:16:17 and more developments today. Taiwan now admits US troops in Taiwan. That's a major red line for China and their dictator Xi Jinping. So I thought there would be more conversation about this considering the scale of this headline. Yeah, this is a big one. So there aren't US troops in Taiwan in the sense that they're going there to fight or anything like that. Right, right, right. There are US troops in Taiwan training Taiwanese military.
Starting point is 00:16:41 There was a story about this recently because Taiwan's defense minister Chu Kuo-cheng acknowledged their presence when taking questions from the press, but this isn't news. The Wall Street Journal reported on this as far back as 2021, and even previous to that, Taiwanese special forces would come here for training. They generally don't make a big deal out of this in order not to piss China off too much, but it's not like all parties aren't aware of this. This isn't crossing of the red line like Alex is saying. I mean, things are getting tighter. After that Hong Kong law where it's like now we – ooh boy, you don't want to live in Hong Kong now. After that one, Taiwan is very,
Starting point is 00:17:19 very much on edge. I would imagine so, yeah. Yeah. And that's – why wouldn't you have American people come and train? I would want, yeah, I would want that. I don't know. So I sincerely thought like, okay, these are the top stories of the day, but it turns out it's not really. He mostly is going to end up wanting to talk about the Israel-Gaza situation vis-a-vis his tweet. Yeah, I was gonna say, it's cause it's about him. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And then his master plan is to go on Twitter, go on Spaces, and have people comment on his tweet Oh my God. and the world situation. I think kind of trying to get a sense of where the audience is at on this. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And how to play the ball. But also Alex gets lost in thought thinking about his earliest memories. Some of my earliest memories in East Texas and in Central Texas was sitting around the breakfast table with my grandfathers and my father and my uncles, hearing about the coming of the one world government and the mega computers that would control our every action and the beast computer in Brussels, Belgium, and the plan to destroy the family and how the megabanks control the communist movement worldwide. And my mother's father talking about space stations and ICBMs and army combat robots, because he worked on those secretly. he worked on those secretly. And so it was put into my DNA 45 years ago, 46, 47. I remember being two, three, four, five, six, seven years old. And both sides of my family, we're not
Starting point is 00:19:21 talking about the Dallas Cowboys. Even though they watched Dallas Cowboys and Tom Landry would come over to the house sometimes and visit my mom's dad, they were best friends and roommates at UT on the UT football team. But we weren't talking about Tom Landry when Tom Landry came over, it was for prayer meetings. He and my grandfather would go back in his office for up to two hours. They were in love
Starting point is 00:19:48 Clyde Hammond Not name-dropping just saying that's where I come from. It's a bit of name-dropping Also like I don't know your earliest memories where your family yell at a bunch of John Birch Society bullshit around Yeah, that's what really his memories were. And you know what, here's the thing I keep thinking about. It's like, I know from watching Alex's show so much, how often he's tricked by fake experts. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:15 How all of these people with ridiculous credentials that they are just making up wander through his door and he presents them as people who have worked on space stations. Top scientists. Yes top scientists I can't imagine he doesn't have a similar relationship with family members. I mean I Okay, so if you're gonna tell me that Alex's earliest memories include his mom's dad Telling him about applied robotics and how much he's worked on that Yeah, that means that he was working on robotics somewhere between 1950 and 1980, correct?
Starting point is 00:20:46 That would have to be like mom's day. Alex was born in what, 74? Something like that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would like to know exactly what robots he was working on from 1950 to 19... Was he doing the chess robot in the 1912s? That was actually a small person under there.
Starting point is 00:21:03 That was Alex's grandpa. It was Alex's grandpa. Uh-huh. You know who the guy inside the machine was? Who? Tom Landry. God damn it! They used to be in that machine for hours at a time.
Starting point is 00:21:13 That's a lot of praying. That's a lot of praying. But sometimes there's a lot of prayers that need to be made. So who am I to judge? Sure, sure, sure. But yeah, there is something though, it always is fun about like, there's the brag that Alex has that is like, we were talking about serious stuff, not the cowboys.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And then there's another brag on top of that that is like, we were friends with the coach. I mean, we're just, I mean, you know, the most famous cowboy coach ever, just saying. So we get back to the discussion of the Gaza footage that Alex posted on social media. I saw some footage and Israel admits it's real, admits it came from the defense ministry that was leaked. Somebody was upset. I'm upset too. That shows Israel is not some monolithic thing, whether it's a savior or a bad guy. It's not monolithic, depending on your perspective. It's still not monolithic. Footage of drones killing unarmed civilians walking down the street in southern Gaza,
Starting point is 00:22:07 a street that's been bulldozed. And I put it out and I got tens of millions of views and I got overwhelming support across the local spectrum. But there was a large minority of people saying, oh, you work for Hamas now and, and how dare you? Because I said, this looks like genocide to me. So I can't find any confirmation that this was footage that was leaked by someone within the defense ministry. I'm not saying that's impossible, but I don't know where that information is coming from that Alex is putting forth.
Starting point is 00:22:47 The story was originally reported by Al Jazeera who said that the video was quote, retrieved from an Israeli drone in Gaza, and the subsequent reporting on it was that Israel said that they were quote, investigating the incident. I have a strong suspicion that Alex is making up details to the story as he goes along because it fits better for the story he wants to tell. Also in that clip you kind of get a sense of what I'm talking about. This story isn't about him being offended at actions being taken against a people because those actions are wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:14 He thinks that killing Palestinians is part of a plot to attack the United States through immigration which is where he really is upset about. There's a little bit of other stuff about like, is it going to turn into nuclear war? Obviously, he has some concerns on that front. But almost always, the road comes back to, this is a plot to bring angry Muslims to the United States, and I don't like that. Yeah, and he always hides the truth in the postscript, you know? Like, here's my main threat, I don't like the way they're doing
Starting point is 00:23:46 Plus they're gonna bring them over here and it's like no, that's your real problem. You just said it You keep saying and plus as though the plug. Hey just an afterthought I'm not even thinking about this but plus my only main problem is that they'll come here. Mm-hmm and so obviously this ends up derailing into some conversation about Immigration and migrants sure And recently there was some video of migrants storming past the Texas National Guard and the razor wire fence and trying to make it to the border itself. The actual border patrol, the federal wall Order yes, and so Alex discusses this in in an incredibly dystopian way great and has Some suggestions of ways that he would like to see this addressed that I don't think he can possibly support
Starting point is 00:24:37 This is shocking Footage of the illegal aliens the military-age, many of which are on take saying, F you, we're taking over America, we're going to take your houses, we're going to rob you, MS-13, all these gangs. The Border Patrol opens up the fence and the people run over them. Carrying drugs, God knows what. But the point is, this is not even a controlled destruction of the border. It is now officially gone and it's beyond a dereliction of duty. It is deliberate treason against this country. So we need to declare an invasion. This is an invasion.
Starting point is 00:25:17 We've got to get Trump in. We've got to have the governors of Texas moving in the right direction, declare emergencies. And we have to deport these people. And that means if Venezuela won't take them back, others will take them back, and the feds won't put sections of Venezuela, the governor of Texas just seizes the major gas station, gas station chains, there's three of them, that are owned by Venezuela. It's time to take the gloves off and they'll start taking their illegal invaders back real quick.
Starting point is 00:25:51 The Texas governor can simply order the state police to set up internal checkpoints by declaring emergency. This is when you do it's when you're overrun. Not before the crisis gets so bad, you can't fix it. run. Not before the crisis gets so bad you can't fix it. And the governor can turn back any of the trucks or people that get on state roads and can seize them. You want war? You got it. You brought us here. So I found this shocking video that Alex is talking about and the migrants in question were attempting to tear down the razor wire fences that the National Guard of Texas had
Starting point is 00:26:24 put up so they could make it to the border wall and turn themselves in and plead for asylum. Sure, sure. They weren't rushing past the National Guard and then just disappearing into the night or something. They were trying to rush past to actually get to the point where they could plead asylum. Where the laws will protect them as opposed to try to murder them. Right, with razor wire.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think it's important to remember that Alex is the guy who built his brand on being the anti-police state guy. Am I to understand that he would be okay with internal checkpoints being erected in Texas where he would be stopped and asked to prove he's a citizen? It seems to me that maybe all the bluster about how DUI checkpoints were the mark of tyranny they might not have been as rooted in philosophical positions as Alex liked to pretend back in the day.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Because can you imagine him being stopped at a checkpoint and then being like, show us your papers, and then being like, oh, you're just trying to catch migrants. I guess this is okay. But isn't that what they do? You know, isn't that what all those videos that we watched where, where, where, oh, my fourth amendment rats are being taken around, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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Starting point is 00:27:40 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, hurt somewhere else. Yeah, I like they would love that shit. No, I think so I think that there's a sucks there is a feeling that Alex has of immunity from the consequences and the negative effects of this and so the Philosophical opposition to him being asked right to prove he's a citizen Kind of well kind of erodes a little bit. I mean, the good thing though for him though is that if you look at it historically, anytime you have these kinds of hierarchical, incredibly violent situations where they come
Starting point is 00:28:17 down on you heavily, it's never corrupted and then used against people that it wasn't intended to be used for, especially not the people who came up with the idea in the first place. That's not something that Alex has talked about incessantly. Ah, no, no. So, there is a TV show that has come out called Three Body Problem. I saw it, yeah. You did? Yeah, it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:28:36 How'd you like it? It was pretty good. Yeah? Yeah. Alright. I haven't seen it. No. I understand it's sci-fi.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It is sci-fi. It's very sci-fi. So, Jack Posobic posted a clip of it. Sure, and how sci-fi. It is sci-fi. It's very sci-fi. So Jack Psobik posted a clip of it. Sure. And how is this going to go wrong? Well, because apparently the first episode, and since you've seen it, I'm actually pretty grateful because I didn't watch it. But apparently in the first episode there's a bit of a struggle session, according to Alex. There's a denunciation of somebody in the cultural revolution setting. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't like it.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Yeah. They're anti-cultural revolution. What, do you mean the show? Yes. Right. So this scene is presented as a bad thing. It is a bad thing. In the show.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. Where there's somebody who's like a traitor to the party. Right, and he gets hurt real bad. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're pretty excited about this because There's never been according Jack Psobek sure he claims there has never been a depiction of this kind of a communist ceremony That is ever really yeah
Starting point is 00:29:37 And so Alex plays the clip the Jack Psobek had posted. It's very long He plays an extended clip of this. I feel like he thinks it's real. And so he talks over it. Here's that. Sure. They're recreating the French Revolution. And then if you said you were guilty, they still killed you.
Starting point is 00:30:00 They put you in for a cyber camp. A bunch of dumb young teenagers being wound up in the state and now they kill him. Yay! Burn down the buildings. And Kamala Harris bail us out. And then years later, they give Per City $20 to $50 million of Black Lives Matter for the good job they did. Getting them ready for when Trump wins to burn the country down again. And that's the whole plan.
Starting point is 00:30:50 The CIA is running this right now against America on record. So there you go. So there you go. And now they say illegal aliens can have guns. So that's where the mind goes after a clip from a sci-fi show. All right. So the Cultural Revolution, right? I just, I don't know if's quite understands the idea behind the Cultural Revolution I'm not I'm not positive
Starting point is 00:31:31 What do you where do you think there are gaps? I'm well, I don't understand the immigrants with guns sure I actually don't understand what it is. The CIA is do is the CIA doing a Cultural Revolution to us? Yes, okay Does he know what the cultural revolution was? He saw this clip that posobic posted. See that's what I was worried about right, so It's my understanding. I read the Wikipedia page about this about the cultural revolution. No this book Apparently there's dehydrating aliens or something. Yeah. Yeah So yeah, yeah yeah that's that's in there too I mean yeah I mean the depiction of the cultural revolutions
Starting point is 00:32:10 accurate is fucked up man right he's really fucked up but it's an inciting incident of a negative in the context of the story yes I don't know I don't know why Alex Alex is saying that this is being shown as like this is what the globalists want. The CIA is running this. OK. It's very confusing. Wait, but I thought Psobe's point is like this is groundbreaking.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It's the first time that we're allowed to criticize the Cultural Revolution. But I don't think that they would argue that it is criticizing it too much. I'm sorry? Well, because all of this is devoid of context. Oh, well, yeah. Okay. So the context of that is instead, let me kind of put this in a larger context. Because of that inciting incident, the human race goes extinct based on a choice that a
Starting point is 00:32:59 person made because of how awful people were. So essentially, that opening is the death of humanity. That is the death warrant for everyone that's ever lived. So in that sense, that's not really the way that they're talking about it. No, it's the worst thing that has ever or could ever happen to anyone ever in that show. That is that. Well, that, I mean, you're not going to get that from the Psoba Clipper Alex's cover probably not probably not talking sort of about glorifying this a little bit no no because of that a person kills everyone
Starting point is 00:33:33 or you know sentences though sentence assault to death by alien conqueration hmm dehydrating aliens a little bit okay yeah I thought that was strange hey listen sure I just watched the show all All right. I'm not judging you So yeah, they're gonna burn down the country sure and now we've got footage coming out of guns being delivered to the migrant centers Yes, you heard me right that's coming up. I Can't believe they're actually doing it, but they are We're only eight months away. They're planning to burn everything down
Starting point is 00:34:04 To say it's all white people's fault. These Black Lives Matter Antifa and the illegal alien brigades, the military age men, to do this. This is actually the end of the country we're staring down the barrel of right now. All run by the CIA, all run by the FBI, all run by our government. So here we are. What are we going to do about it? We can stop this, folks. We need the governors to face it, come out at press conferences. We need to recognize there's a plan to do it. And then by exposing what they're planning in November, they'll have to back down. But you have to admit what you're about to be
Starting point is 00:34:41 hit by to stop it. Stay with us. Point of order, Alex does not play guns being delivered to migrant centers. So that promise is unfulfilled. But yeah, I find that this is so unsatisfying. They're going to burn down the country. This is the plan. You watched this clip from the sci-fi show. This is the plan. This is all what's going to go on. Now we can stop it by talking. We can just talk about it and if we talk about it enough, they'll have to stop.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Okay. Now, when you say they're delivering guns to migrant centers, what do you see? Do you see like a big like semi-trust? You Do you, you see crates like, uh, so we got a whole semi. We got somebody with a big 16 wheeler. They open up the back. This is a migrant center with like what? 150 people open up the back of this thing. They pull out crates upon crates of AR 15s and any number of automatic either crates or that scene in The Matrix. The scene in The Matrix. Okay, so the whoosh, that thing? So what you're saying is you don't see what I instantly see, which is a bunch of dudes
Starting point is 00:35:54 with kind of bad red trucks opening the back up with a bunch of loose guns. Just being like, hey guys, come on down. It's got to be somewhere in between the two. Somewhere in between. I feel like we're both, we're at different ends of the spectrum. I think it's probably more safe to drive with them in crates. Probably.
Starting point is 00:36:13 And just Lucys. Yeah. Which is what I'm calling guns now. Okay, you just wanna get a single? Yeah, I just wanna, give me a Lucy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Alex gets back to the situation with Gaza. And he discusses what he believes the plan
Starting point is 00:36:27 is. Hmm. I want to understand, and I do understand, what's really going on. And it's very sophisticated and it's very evil. And it's to create a class of civilizations. The globalists were heavily involved in staging 9-11. Then they go and destroy the medallation of their areas, and they bring tens of millions of those people to Europe and to the US.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Then the left indoctrinates them, and the universities indoctrinate them in basically communist globalist anti-Western, anti-Christian propaganda. So there's a Hegelian dialectic of problem-reaction solution going on. So I'm not for bringing the Palestinians here. How is that? I don't believe in destroying Israel, but also at the same time don't want the US to be involved and I'm sick of foreign aid to any country unless it's purely humanitarian. We have our own problems here.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Our country's collapsing. There is no such thing as purely humanitarian issues for Alex if you've ever listened to his show. There is no situation in the world where you'd be like, yep, that one's good. Yeah, we just need to help. Right. Yeah, that doesn't exist. So Alex's problem is not that civilians are being killed or that war crimes are taking
Starting point is 00:37:37 place. It's that he believes that this is being done as part of a plan to bring migrants to the United States who will then be brainwashed into being communists and allowed to vote for Democrats. That's the... Yeah, that's the issue here. Right. In case anybody was confused about what our main issue here is, that is the issue.
Starting point is 00:37:55 That's his issue. That's the biggest problem that we are facing right now. That is the issue. Just to be clear. Okay, now that we got that. This is what animates and is behind Alex's Verve. Yeah. Yeah, so he talks about this a little bit, but He mostly talks about things. He didn't say
Starting point is 00:38:15 About Israel's response. Yeah, I'm sitting here just trying to be a reasonable person and call balls and strikes and I and I care about everybody but I understand the geopolitical things that are going on. And we see October 7th happen and it's terrible kidnappings, murder, abuse. And I come out and say, I think it's horrible. And then within a day or two, prominent Israelis and former generals and others come out and say, look, we had attacked helicopters five minutes away and we had thousands of troops 10 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Why did we stand down for at least seven hours? It's more like nine, a complete stand down for seven and a half hours or so. Israel's tiny. She can drive from Tel Aviv in 45 minutes there. A lot of former military and reservists got in their cars and drove down there and tried to protect people. There was a lot of friendly fire and things. It was a big disaster.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I never said Israel staged the attacks or killed their own people on purpose. Most of them got killed by Hamas, but some did get killed. You're in a war zone. So it's also been falsely attributed that I'm saying Israel staged all this and that Hamas isn't real. No, that's not true. Hamas is very real, funded by Hezbollah, which I said would later take credit, which they have.
Starting point is 00:39:24 But then why did Biden give them $6 billion a month before? Why did Biden then defend Iran and say they weren't involved when they were? Because there's a lot more calculus going into this. You got Jared Kushner, you know, saying we're just going to take Gaza and turn it into a nice oceanfront property. I mean, there's a lot of provocative stuff going on. Oh yeah. Jared Kushner's saying some provocative stuff here.
Starting point is 00:39:46 You mean Donald Trump, the guy who sported for president's son-in-law? Yeah. The guy that Trump made head of Middle East affairs? Right. Jared Kushner's saying that kind of stuff and you're really worried about it. Sure would be bad if his dad got into office. Hmm. Anyway, there sure is a lot of conversation there about positions Alex claims that he
Starting point is 00:40:04 never had. Never going on never said Weird that he doesn't mention that on his show on October 7th half of his time on that show was an infomercial for his Book featuring the dude who actually wrote it. Yeah, that it seems to be he seems to have forgotten that So there's a lot of open questions about the Israeli military response on October 7th But I cannot find definitive evidence that there was an intentional stand down that's stronger than pointing to circumstantial evidence and jumping to that conclusion. There is definitive evidence that there was foreknowledge of Hamas' plans, but that alone is not enough to establish this point.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Even in the most generous interpretation, Alex's version is off, since there wasn't a complete stand down. There are many reasons that have been offered for why the response to the attack was delayed But what's important to recognize here is that Alex is saying that it definitely was If he believes that he's being really casual about that piece of information It seems like it should be a much bigger deal for him. Yeah, I Think but here's here's what I think on that is that it Makes more sense to blame that than to really kind
Starting point is 00:41:07 of get into what it is that surveillance does. There is a massive weakness in surveillance, which is that you don't know what you're looking for. So if you have to look at everything, then you wind up seeing nothing. There's that. And then there's also the complacency that comes along with surveillance. Totally. I can see everything. There's nothing coming And then there's also the complacency that comes along with surveillance. Totally. I can see everything.
Starting point is 00:41:26 There's nothing coming that I can't see. And then it turns out 9-11. Sure. And it happens. Yeah. There are dynamics that are like that. And then there are just logistical dynamics that are things like Hamas took over roads and made it almost impossible to travel. Yeah, I mean it was a holiday
Starting point is 00:41:46 That is things like that that Alex just discounts and doesn't yeah, you know, so there's there's the kind of psychological impacts of high-tech surveillance state and then there are Logistical just physical realities and the the asymmetric force of course made that they're like Oh, there's no way that they would actually attack us on their rickety bullshit Mm-hmm. So Alex Expresses that if he gets shit over this he's gonna talk about it a lot. Sorry. It's him again Yeah again if if anybody's mad at me. Yeah, okay. I'm gonna talk about this more just to be clear
Starting point is 00:42:23 I mean if I wanted to demonize Israel, it'd be really easy back He's mad at me. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to talk about this more. Just to be clear. I mean, if I wanted to demonize Israel, it'd be really easy. In fact, look out, because if I get attacked for this, people claim I'm making this up, I'll just do weeks of shows showing you nothing but war crimes. And we are going to show some of those war crimes, ladies and gentlemen. My argument for showing some of it but not making it my central issue is the UN shutdown of the world for three years in the third world, two years in the West has killed over 80 million people from starvation. The UN admits not the virus, but the lockdowns.
Starting point is 00:42:53 So we don't hear about the 80 plus million that starved to death. Malnutrition from the lockdowns, which were very intense in the third world, Africa, Latin America, Asia. which were very intense in the third world, Africa, Latin America, Asia. We only hear about the 20,000 dead Palestinian civilians, which is terrible. Then I ask, why are we being shown this constantly, and why is Israel putting it out, and making these incredible statements, while we're not talking about the global mass
Starting point is 00:43:21 extermination that even rivals what Mao Tse-Tung and the communist Chinese did. In fact, the globalists with all this lockdown starvation and cutting off fertilizer and food have already killed more people than Mao Zedong did. So there's that, so I don't, less than what's happened to Palestinians, I'm like, okay, that's important. What about all this? So there's larger things at play here that people aren't talking about, big picture. It's very tribal, very simple to choose the Israeli side or choose the Palestinian side. I'm pulling back and saying, day one, why did Israel stand out? So you can kind of see here how Alex doesn't really care a lot about this issue, but he
Starting point is 00:43:55 sees it as a way to further his other talking points. Alex is taking the horror of what you see being done to Palestinians and he's using it to fuel his fear mmongering about immigrants. He's taking that horror and telling you that it's a minor thing compared to the supposed lockdowns that have killed everyone everywhere that is really what's important. You know, you see this exact same impulse
Starting point is 00:44:14 generally through a ton of Alex's coverage. What comes to mind is the way he covered the Dylann Roof mass shooting at the church when he was talking about, if he really wanted to kill black people, he should have become an abortion doctor. He should have done the abortion, yeah. That kind of like, ah, this is bad,
Starting point is 00:44:33 well let me tell you about this. Yeah. He does that all the time, and it is a way of minimizing the things Totally. That he doesn't want to be all that major. And justifying not caring. Right. Yeah. And Iifying not caring. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah. And I think that there's a moment of real truth at the beginning of that clip where Alex says that if he gets attacked for this, he'll cover it a lot more. Sure. Because of course he will. Because if he gets attacked, that means he gets attention. Negative attention is still super profitable for him. So what he's saying is basically this is a bit of a test to see if he gets flack for
Starting point is 00:45:02 this, which will then he'll pretend that means he's over the target If no one's too upset about it and doesn't move the needle. He'll just go back to being fine ignoring war crimes Yeah in order to farm engagement first you have to sow the seeds. You know that kind of thing I want to think I can't get this thought out of my head if I wanted to demonize Israel I could do it easily. Like that as a sentence means, like if you think about what that means, it means an awful lot. But most importantly, it means there's a certain
Starting point is 00:45:32 self-awareness of like, if I wanted to make you hate Israel, I could. I have the power over you. Not like Israel's done something, I'm sure if I wanted to tell you all of the horrible things that Israel did I could Sure, if I wanted to tell you all the horrible things Trump did I could but I'm hiding those from you in order So you believe what I want you to believe like that's in that sense. Sure, you know, yeah I mean it is there is there are
Starting point is 00:46:02 Awarenesses that are revealed. Yeah oftentimes, whenever he decides it's time to change the storyline. I mean, the best example I can think of is the way that he kept becoming aware of things that William Barr, former Attorney General, did. Whenever he was on the outs with Trump, he'd suddenly become aware of something he did in the past, connections to Epstein and stuff. And then when William Barr was doing things that are good, hey, I'm not aware of those things anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:30 He was a sleeper agent or whatever. It's very conditional. And I think that you're right on. There is, I can change your perception about this if I want to. Yeah. Like, and in a way that also is like, listen, I don't care what atrocities they commit I'm choosing that they are fine this time, you know, well there how could you say that? I'm choosing that they're bad, right? But I'm only going to use that in order to further my other points, right?
Starting point is 00:47:00 I'm not going to use that in and of itself As a as a thing to cover. Right. This is only about a piece of a larger plot that connects to my sort of overarching conspiracy. Yeah. Which has to do with bringing migrants to kill me to the United States. Yeah. I'm just fascinated that he would... I mean, that's such a weird... It is so weird that we allow people to say things that are so fucking pregnant with meaning that and then we Just go like and no big deal. He's a weird guy. Yeah weird So he talks a little bit more about the they're being a stand-down sure then he admits
Starting point is 00:47:33 He doesn't really know a lot great Why did Hamas know the shin bet and massage safe houses on the border and where to attack? Because they were on the border and where to attack because they were given a blueprint of where to attack and where to strike by somebody. And I don't know who I'm simply saying probably the same folks in order to stand down. So Israel would then have the pretext to go into a full war footing, invade Gaza, commit atrocities, turn the whole world against Israel, and then elicit attacks out of Lebanon, out of the West Bank and out of other areas.
Starting point is 00:48:09 So then the ruling group in Israel that's had a revolution against them with forced injections and all the tyranny can stay in power. I don't know if it's Netanyahu ordered to stand down. I don't know. We know what happened. Biden says that Netanyahu should stand down. A lot of people think the people under Netanyahu want him out, so they stood down to demonize Netanyahu. I don't know. Other people will lie to you and say they do and
Starting point is 00:48:32 simplify it because they're pea brains. I look at things and do deep research before I make a moral judgment on what is the proper thing to do with God watching me. What? So I am not the Jews' enemy, I am not the Palestinians' enemy. And Lord knows, I know that many of these Muslim groups are not cuddly little friends. So why are you bringing them here? Why is Israel saying they're going to take them here? So Israel says these people are so bad they can't even be allowed to exist, but you're going to then give them to us?
Starting point is 00:49:08 No! And as I said a few months ago, that was my line of the scene where I began to really say Israel's losing the high ground. So that's really all you need to know. The Israeli military could do anything they want to any number of Palestinians and Alex would not care at all if he didn't think that there would be increased refugees possibly coming to the United States. He doesn't care at all about the people and whenever it looks like he does, it's just a case where you're being fooled by a xenophobia being in disguise.
Starting point is 00:49:35 There's a lot of similarity to how he'll sometimes pretend to care about the treatment of Uighurs in China, but then when it really, you know, the rubber meets the road, it'll say, I don't care what you do to them, just don't bring them here. Right. So, feed them, cause then they'll stay there. Or kill everybody, cause then they won't come over here. That's not important to me.
Starting point is 00:49:57 One way or the other, what's important is they're there. Right. And Alex's response to like notions of killing everybody there is like come on You're not going to be able to and that's that's kind of even on its own a disturbing response man I how
Starting point is 00:50:18 Okay, I make a moral judgment on what to do with God watching me. What does that mean? Does that mean that if God wasn't watching? Well, but that's an impossibility. God watches all. Right. So why do you have to feel like you have to add that redundancy if you believe that God is watching all? Just to make a point of it. Just to make a point? Just to remind everybody in case anybody's wondering, omniscient God is still hanging out? Boy. Man, if you're omniscient and you
Starting point is 00:50:48 still need people to remind people of that, you're not doing your job well. I think it's just Alex trying to add weight. Could be. To what he's saying. Trying to give a little that zoosh. Yeah. So he knows, he has all of these conclusions about everything that is rock solid. He doesn't know details about them, but the overarching thing is definitely true. That doesn't make sense. He knows that. No. But he doesn't know any of the details.
Starting point is 00:51:12 That's trouble. And some people will tell you that they know everything in their pea brains. That is also trouble. I agree, but not the right kind. No. So you saw Dune, right? I did. It was great.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Yep, Alex did too. Loved it. When I went and saw the new Dune movie, that's excellent, way better than the first one, which is okay. The whole thing's a Muslim uprising. It's one movie. The whole thing is tailored for a Muslim uprising against the American Empire. Months before 9-11, they had Pearl Harbor movie come out, all perfectly timed. This is all meant to create a global Muslim uprising and out of this worldwide crisis they will then destroy the Muslims and bring in a world government.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I don't want to be part of that. I'm against that. I'm against World War III. We're going to go to break. Please remember the only way we stay on air is when you support us to spread the word and by products. Yikes. That was not good.
Starting point is 00:52:01 So did you feel that Dune was priming the world for a Muslim uprising? I mean, what I do appreciate, what I do appreciate is that Frank Herbert did specifically and obviously model it upon Muslim peoples, whereas a lot of people talking about the movie are like, oh, you know, just any old rabble rousers, you know, like, no, it was specific. He was choosing people. Right. You know, that was an idea.ousers. You know like no is specific. He's choosing people right? Oh, that was an idea so good for Alex for recognizing that everything else. He said was wrong, okay? By a margin of incomprehensibility a country mile a country mile would be a great way of describing the distance But yeah, I enjoy I enjoy this broad
Starting point is 00:52:42 Declaration of their setting the stage and everything, all of these things that are going on are being done in order to provoke and incite and predictively program a Muslim uprising and then they're going to kill the Muslims off and bring in a world government which I don't know why they needed the vaccine for this now because there's all kinds of layers to this, the conspiracy that I don't understand where they fit in exactly. But whatever, leave that aside, you gotta buy the products. You know what, here's the thing, okay? Here's the thing about Dune.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And here's what is frustrating when people talk about Dune, whenever there's a lot of people talking about Dune, is that there's people who know the later Dune books and the context that that provides to the earlier Dune books makes you fucking insane. But I think that Alex is supposed to know all of that. He's supposed to, but he doesn't. He absolutely does not. There are things you have to wrestle with. And he does not do that. He said that he's read Frank Herbert's deeper writings.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Yes, I imagine. His letters. Listen, if you read Chapter House and Heretics, right, if you're Alex, all you're thinking is, man, there's a lot of good sex stuff in here, as opposed to what I was thinking was, man, there's a lot of gross, creepy sex stuff in here. Take that away. So, Alex, you know, he does his plug and he goes out to break. Sure.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And he comes back and he's trying to show the show's feed on Twitter. Naturally. And it doesn't work. No. And so he gets mad. And let's go to show the show's feed on Twitter naturally and it doesn't work no and so he gets mad and let's go to X right now I want to show people on Real Alex Jones the headlines I put out because they boil it all down for people to understand exactly what is going on and what is unfolding not just here in America but around the world. I'm live right now reporting on what I believe to be clear evidence of genocide being committed by Israel in Gaza. Please join me live on X where I will be simulcasting the second and third hour of my show today. Again, that is the live show feed. If you want the video feed, just overhead shot.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I'll show people on my phone. You go to real Alex Jones on X. Overhead shot, please. You'll be able to see the live. I want to rebroadcast for a while. Um, I got a reset here I was totally loaded for bear here totally ready to go I'll do that right now I've got a lot I'm gonna break down here a lot I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:55:19 get into this can be very very important very very informative But I Guys just roll whatever you want Surge to the border all those people are seeking asylum Yes, Alex storms off sure storms off the show because he can't put his chat put the tweets up on the screen. I think so Oh, I think that's really what's at issue here. That's the whole thing can't put the tweets up on the screen little mad at the crew Hmm not getting the overhead shot that he wants This might set records for the shortest Time away because he comes back like a minute and a half later. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:56:05 It's very fast. Alright, alright. Maybe he just needed to piss. And he almost acts like he didn't do it. Didn't happen. Like he didn't leave. Didn't happen! I had to go! I had to go!
Starting point is 00:56:15 When you gotta go, you gotta go. Right. And look, I understand. I mean, people are volatile creatures. And I think that a lot of times You know you can have Reactions to things I think this is one of the reasons most people don't want to do like three four hours of live Broadcast every day because you're gonna you know this is reasonable. Yeah, there's so many moving parts Yeah, every machine breaks down stop doing this. Yeah, that would be the smartest move.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Anyway. Yeah, it is a testament to the courage of so many people, the courage and sacrifice of so many people that cowards like Alex can pretend to be brave now, criticizing people. You know? It is a... Yeah. So we get to another conversation here of the plan. Yes. And this is again,
Starting point is 00:57:11 I'm just trying to reinforce that when Alex is talking about this issue, he's talking about the treatment of the Palestinians. It is only a tertiary concern to him. He's talking about the border. Yeah. Yeah. Israel's not stupid. Why would they be doing something like this? Here's a little quote from a Galloway member of the UK Parliament. And this is confirmed, this is going on, that they plan to ship the Palestinians to the United States and to Europe. Well, meanwhile, the border is wide open for all these Muslims coming in. So we're told they're the most deadly people on earth. We got to shoot men, women and children.
Starting point is 00:57:55 We got to bomb everything, but you're going to take them. That sounds like Israel, or the people running Israel, using America as a toilet. So I'm not anti-Israel, I'm neutral on this, but I will also not be attacked by Israel when they destroy a whole population, or destroy most of it, and then ship the pissed off remains to my country. To be organized by the left and the universities into this anti-Israel, anti-America thing, which Israel wants to be persecuted because that gives their leaders even more power. I figured it out. You figured it out.
Starting point is 00:58:32 It's victimology. So you figured it out. You look confused. Holy fuck. Yeah. I'm not confused. That's one of the most disgusting things. For somebody who's making moral judgments based on God watching
Starting point is 00:58:45 I was watching I would not want God watching me if I said that out loud. Yeah, I'll tell you that doesn't doesn't sound Good if if honestly honestly if anyone should be grateful That his literal God does not exist it should be Alex I God does not exist, it should be Alex. I can think of no one who would hate Alex more than the God that Alex professes to believe in. So after the outburst and storming off, I guess they got things figured out and now on on Twitter on the spaces and Chase Geyser is running the board. Sure. Yeah, you know, after the sort of conversation that Alex had about Don Lemon, and the awareness that Alex has of the being paid, it makes it very strange that he's constantly on Twitter spaces, as opposed to taking calls. Yeah. Like that it's migrated a bit over to that. It feels... Well, you do get money for like...
Starting point is 00:59:46 Engagement. Yeah, people get money for engagement. You don't get money for just taking calls. So if people are going to call you and you might get money for it, then take the money. It makes perfect sense. It does. It's just the sacrifice of old man house phone is the heartbreaker. It is.
Starting point is 01:00:02 And Louisiana... He isn't an insurance? He's not coming back. The gentleman Charles Yeah. And Louisiana gentleman, come back. Gentlemen, Charles isn't on. He's not on spaces. So we get a call from a guy. I thought this guy sounded like real weird. Let's hear from Tristan John Tristan. Go ahead and unmute yourself and speak. Whatever you have to say. Hey, Alex and Chase. Thanks for having me on. I just had one
Starting point is 01:00:23 thing to say. I feel like America's been doing this last who knows how many years. 80 years. We can go, yeah, go look at Ukraine, go look at, we'll look at our border crisis like you mentioned earlier, Alex, like you posted that video, I mean, a bunch of people have posted that viral video.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Well, what are we gonna end up doing? Like we're involved in too many things. We're not thinking about our own state right now. Like it's insane for me. I'm representing the fourth district Colorado right now and it's just massively, I feel like it's over overpressed. There's too many different things, angles going on. Yes, your eyes got real wide there. Do you mean he's in the 4th District? Or do you mean he is a congressman representing the 4th District of Colorado? See, see, that's the...
Starting point is 01:01:13 What you would come away from somebody saying that. That's what I would think. One or the other. If you're saying, I'm currently representing the... You know, you'd think, well, you're in an elected position. Or, or you're there and you're like telling us what's Going on in there. I get I get that interpretation. It's that's not that's not the one that you're trying to give off No, no, and this guy is not an elected. Okay. Thank God. I was like man I know I know it's bad, but can we not have people in Congress calling into Twitter spaces?
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah, the Colorado's fourth district seat in the US House of Representatives is currently vacant since Ken Buck stepped down. The seat is going to be filled in November, but that primary isn't even until June. And there's the State House of Representatives, this guy's name doesn't match that person either. Yeah, he's not Ben Huck or whatever. But that's what he wants. I swear, your eyes got so wide when he said that because that's the impression that's supposed to be... That's what he wants the like I swear your eyes got so wide when he said that yeah
Starting point is 01:02:06 Because that's the impression that's supposed to be doing. Yeah. Yeah, he's doing that on purpose. Yeah. Yeah, very strange so most of the calls are not really that Interesting sure there's a lot of I mean it's Twitter spaces. There's a lot of agreement broadly with the There's a lot of agreement broadly with the Israel's actions the government military actions against the Palestinian civilians is unacceptable. Yeah, this needs to stop that is Generally, and I don't think anybody calls in that I can think of who disagreed honestly. Hmm. It's a position that info wars listeners in this Twitter space Fine with yeah, so I don't know what Alex's response to that is going to be because it's not really that controversial
Starting point is 01:02:59 There's not fighting that's happening because of it in this Twitter space. He's not getting a lot of shit for his position Yeah, so you know if the standard of being above the target is you get a lot of flack Certainly got not seeing that here I mean even the government at this point is like maybe we should do something and we've been paying for the whole thing Right, so it's like you are not taking a courageous stand if the financier is finally going Maybe we should cut off the flow. Yeah, so this leads to another call that Alex gets where everything changes. All right. Let's hear next from a really, a really good cheeseburger. Are you still with us? Go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say. I'm delicious. Okay. It looks like a really good cheeseburger
Starting point is 01:03:37 is just listening. Let's hear from True Seeker. True Seeker, go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say. What's going on, brother Alex again? It's good to talk to you, brother. It's good. Talk to you too chase How y'all doing we're here live reaching millions of people right now Not to change the subject completely, but did you see where there was an attack in Russia just a little while ago about? Ten minutes ago. No we did what another drone attack or what happened? It was on a theater saying there was explosions on let me tell you exactly what was that it was a Corpus City Hall concert venue is what it was there was a attack explosions and everything heavy gunfire
Starting point is 01:04:13 Guys type in attack in Russia. No, I did not know about that. Tell us what's happening Just a massive explosion. They heard I guess people are I'm not sure exactly the full details because it just happened But it's a the world of it. Well, NATO has said they're not going to move to terror attacks in Russia. Again, it is breaking. A club and shopping center in Moscow, Russia appears to be the target of a terror attack, multiple gunmen and military style of things, recorded shooting at people with rifles in the concert hall. So they're trying to push Russia into direct war. Wow. Yeah, look at that shopping mall on fire.
Starting point is 01:04:43 So immediately upon hearing about this Alex has his narrative set yeah the the amount of information that he has zero regarding this particular thing well you heard him get all of that information that he has and the quickness with the quickness with which he has created an entire scenario he knows it all it's bullshit yeah yeah I'm sad to not hear from a really good cheeseburger yeah I do think that that's the one thing that I like about Twitter spaces is the potential for chase and Alex to have to use people's fucking stupid aliens yeah the gamer tags and the names are always fun
Starting point is 01:05:17 whenever people are forced to say them out loud and treat them as a real name also this is one of two people who go by truth seeker who end up getting through. So that might be a little bit of a listen, look to standard of a name. Nothing that points you out as somebody who is not one of those sheep who just goes along with the crowd, like having the exact same name as everybody else around you. Right. Yeah. I hate to say that I distrust anybody who calls themselves truth seeker, but you're playing from a disadvantage. You're starting off on a bad foot. When great writers in like the fucking 1800 started calling people shit like truth seeker, even then everybody was like, man
Starting point is 01:06:03 just fucking Tigger down a notch. Call him Terrence. Terrence is a great name. Not a bad name. Yeah. So Alex evolves this narrative pretty quickly and pretty smoothly. Sure. We're in the end times. Oh my God. You brought this up. We're showing footage right now, not on the spaces, but on the X feed at Alex Jones channel, real Alex Jones. This is people, it looks like in a military garb of the Ukrainians shooting people at a, at a music event. Wow. Crazy times. We're in brother. That's all I wanted to point out. Um, God bless you all. Just keep fighting the fight. We're all effort warriors and just keep fighting the fight. Brother. Glad you brought that up. Wow. Started
Starting point is 01:06:44 10 minutes ago. So you can tell that Alex is obviously interested in reporting a story in a particular way, and that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. They're in Ukrainian garb. Wow. Yeah. So the one thing I'm really struck by on this episode is how much Alex seems to be invested in playing what amounts to gore footage.
Starting point is 01:07:01 He plays the video of the drone killing in Gaza multiple times and even zoomed in. He plays a long stretch of the shooting videos that were released by WikiLeaks from Iraq. He plays that murder scene from Three Body Problem, sci-fi show. And now he's playing the video of this breaking news in Moscow that's grotesque like it's very excessive for the span of one episode and it's It's notable. I don't know what it means exactly But Alex is really interested in airing this footage playing these videos Yeah, it's very strange a lot of this is like If you remember how often people were like, oh video games are gonna desensitize you to violence Like there was that stretch of time between you know
Starting point is 01:07:49 2004 and 2015 where it was like anytime somebody talked about video games It was like oh, it's gonna make that it's gonna make the kids psychopaths. You know yeah, I think even Alex Yeah, I I genuinely think it's gone the complete opposite direction the people who play violent video games are not psychopaths But everybody else fucking is. Like, Alex doing that just, like, hey, that is desensitizing people to real violence. That's real violence. Whenever I play a video game, I enter into this false reality knowing it's not real.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Right. You know? I'm not desensitized to anything. I'm going into a false reality. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, definitely. This is desensitization. It is.
Starting point is 01:08:27 This is what it is. And it's frying people with extreme stimulus, which may be the same. It may sort of play in the same waters. But there is also just a like, it's overriding your ability to experience and think in the in the moment You're you're seeing these horrors and you're seeing this awful shit and then Alex is feeding you Be afraid of people at the border. Totally, you know, and that's the way that all of this emotional energy is be
Starting point is 01:08:58 Intended to be directed totally and grotesque the amount of the amount of atrocity and The lack of giving a fuck about it from Alex is kind of what? What is so scary is like because to me it feels like the reasonable was the reasonable response from an infowarrior Not an actual reasonable response, but if I'm an infowarrior listening to this my response is like well I don't care about people elsewhere, period. I can't. The only thing I do, anytime I care about people outside of the United States, I just go, there's murder happening. And it feels terrible so I'm only going to care about the murders happening here, you know?
Starting point is 01:09:39 Well, and whenever I see something happening, how is this about me? Yeah. You know, that, that is also the impetus and the instinct. It's fucking hell, man. So Alex talks about this footage in, uh, in Moscow and, uh, he has some, has some takes with that burning shopping mall. What the hell, man, this is, they're trying to get Russian over respond. I can you feel the danger?
Starting point is 01:10:12 Yeah. And the thing that comes to mind looking at all this is something Jordan Peterson said that I really admire and believe comes to mind all the time is if you think it's scary, what a strong man in leadership will do, just wait till you see what a weak man in leadership will do. And this is what the world looks like when somebody like Joe Biden is the president of the United States. Yeah, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Let's fade up the audio fader and start with the burning building. Start with the attack on the concert. Start with it. Other download videos right now. Download them right now. I'm gonna play the audio. Oh my God. This really wants to play this video and
Starting point is 01:10:48 I feel like chase is strange Because he's blaming a terrorist attack in Russia on Biden Yeah sight on scene not knowing any of the details not knowing anything. No, this is Biden. This is cuz Biden's too weak Yep, so Isis took responsibility for the attack sure in Moscow But you don't know that at this point No, and you would never know that listening to Alex cuz it's NATO and Ukraine that did it. Yeah Biden's at fault. Yeah, cuz he's weak cuz he's weak if Biden was strong like Trump This wouldn't have happened. Yes, because when Trump was president stuff like this did not happen
Starting point is 01:11:24 It never it never did and it never would. Because everyone knows not to fuck around. Right, because he's strong. Right. So Alex has a prediction of what's going to happen in response. Bring me all the articles, I know you're downloading the videos. Shopping mall blown up by armed troops, looks like a hundred of them in Moscow. Putin might hit forces in Ukraine with tactical nukes or the globalists may do it and say he did it.
Starting point is 01:11:52 They already caught Zelensky firing missiles into Poland. Get me Jack Psobek. I'll probably take over the fourth hour if he can do it. I know Jay Dyer. Guest host understands as I take over. Call Jack Psobek. He's so smart. I want his take on this now. Get me Psobek.
Starting point is 01:12:04 The guy who cried at Comet Ping Pong Pizza. Did somebody write a note, pin it to their chest? Yeah. Call Jack Posobic. He found a dead chef with a... called Posobic. That would be a hell of a name to spell right on your suicide, or your like... I know how to spell it and I still don't... I'm not confident.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Like, but in that moment, being able to write down, spell that name correctly and pin it your suicide or your like. I know how to spell it and I'm still not confident. But in that moment being able to write down, spell that name correctly and pin it to your chest, that's quality. Not a chance. That's quality stuff. So yeah, it's fun that Alex's response is that he's going to maybe tactically nuke Ukraine or maybe the globalists will do it and say that Russia did it. Because later, Psobek comes on and somebody else and they're all like, they're not going
Starting point is 01:12:44 to do that. No, no. That's not gonna happen. It's a bad idea. And they kind of scoff at the idea of suggesting that and then Alex doesn't say it anymore. So he gets shamed a little bit. It is so easy to bully him. So Alex is done talking about the drone shot in Gaza footage now. Now it's Moscow, only. Oh, yeah, which tells us everything We need to know the Israel discussion Spaces speakers can still talk about it. I'm not censoring you but holy hell a Moscow shopping center is on fire reportedly hundreds of dead men running around in Ukrainian uniforms shooting and murdering people.
Starting point is 01:13:26 It is absolutely off the chain insane. And again, we had Jack McSlobber gone months ago and weeks ago saying they've hired this terrorism expert to head up the Ukrainian military now they're going to launch terror attacks inside Russia as a pretext to get Russia to jump off the chain and escalate the war with NATO. And he called it. He called it. He called it. So I think that if I'm somebody who has heard a lot of Alex's content over the years, I would take the idea that someone might be in Ukrainian uniform as evidence that it's not them. Yeah. That seems to be the way that Alex's mind works.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Right. But he does... Subterfuge. Right. You know, false flaggery. That seems to be his brand. You know, the people disguising their true intentions behind a visage of some sort. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:20 In this case though... I also think that he's making up the Ukrainian uniforms there. Yeah, I think that they did make that up yeah yeah so the issue is everybody needs to pray maybe for two hours sure that Russia yeah yeah yeah yes okay and it is time to pray okay that Russia be restrained this is in sane level stuff let's do this. We got like six videos that we've got the audio for. They're in Russian.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Start with the burning mega shopping mall in Moscow. People shooting people inside a music event. People killing men, women and children inside the mall. And reportedly hundreds of dead folks. You better pray to Jesus the Russians hold back. This is meant to get Putin to start nuking stuff. And you know, why would they do that? The globalist all got bunkers folks. They want to depopulate us. So yeah, I mean, that's all just Alex's extending out the implications of his narrative and
Starting point is 01:15:18 his storyline of what he imagines is happening. So that's, that's how the coverage goes. Ah, boy, I will tell you this. The one piece of solace that I truly take is that even the billionaires and even the richest people with their bunkers will still enjoy a nice tree from time to time, so I'm not too worried about nuclear winter. Okay. You know? Like, I get it.
Starting point is 01:15:42 You could survive in your bunker, but wouldn't you like a tree? Wouldn't you like a tree? We'll see like a tree or two. This is why ass sure yeah, that's good stuff, but you can terraform your bunker I Think I think it's probably better to not do the nuclear it is safer to not do the nuclear winter. I think generally across the board, almost everyone agrees with that. Almost everyone. Almost everyone.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Near universal. Near universal is the problem. That qualifier is a real dick, isn't it? So Jack Posobic has predicted this attack. Somehow. He's so sagely. And Alex is like, man, if only I could find the clip of him predicting it,
Starting point is 01:16:25 wouldn't that be powerful stuff? Oh boy. And so he ruminates on that for a little while. I sit here and talk about how great Jack Mosobik is, it's not to kiss his ass. I mean, I want to hear from him yesterday on this and imagine how powerful it would be if I had the crew to have him a year ago, six months ago, two months ago, a month ago, literally saying massive terror attacks on civilian targets like shopping malls and other events. And they just did it. I don't want to be the only guy that's like, Oh God, he predicted this and that the guy's so smart. Once you figure out the enemy plan, folks, you can all do it. I don't want
Starting point is 01:17:00 to be territorializing this like I'm the big brain bug and I know all the I want to stop this I've got four children We are we are so close to nuclear war right now. I am getting chills every second I can barely do the show right now. I am so pissed off in Victoria Newland right now You found a clip of what you just already found a clip in two minutes? Wow, the crew is over the top. In two minutes, they just found it. Rock stars.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Here's a clip. I'll tell you, it's going to be on one hand, they will claim that is the stabilization of Ukraine. They said we're going to, they're going to say, we're going to stabilize the conflict. Look they will claim that is the stabilization of Ukraine. They said, we're going to, they're going to say, we're going to stabilize the conflict. Look, Biden knows this thing's a loser. He doesn't want this thing going on all the way to 2024. Well, he's got an election coming up. He's going to claim to want stabilization, but we're going to see are more of these
Starting point is 01:17:58 provocations, provocations, provocations, provocations, going on in the backfield. You're going to see attacks potentially on Polish troops, Polish civilians. You're going to see attacks on Russian civilians, Russian civilian infrastructure. Remember, they murdered a truck driver in cold blood to take out the Kerch Strait Bridge. That's exactly who these guys are. They're willing to take out civilians. So they found a clip that's close, but that's not the clip that Alex wants no because it doesn't say shopping malls and Alex is saying that he Directly predicted this shopping mall thing Alex is really hung up on that well
Starting point is 01:18:32 It does seem like the crew is under the top then yeah, well they're close to the top. They're approaching topping all right They're hanging from yeah, yeah, but it's good enough It's good Alex doesn't leave okay. That's good enough. It's good enough. Alex doesn't leave. Okay, that's good. That's good. That's how I know that it's good enough. It's good enough.
Starting point is 01:18:50 But Alex does make a point that's not the one I was talking about. It's not the one. There's other ones. Of course. Better ones. Doesn't matter. More prophetic ones. Doesn't matter if there are or aren't.
Starting point is 01:18:59 There were. So they give up the search for Psobeak being a prophet, those clips, and Alex plays some video of the attack and I'm gonna play this because of what Alex says over it Yeah, but trigger warning and I would not generally want to play because you hear gunshots Yeah, and it's upsetting the reality that Alex is playing this video on his show But you know, it's somewhat valuable to understand where his mind goes and what he says over content
Starting point is 01:19:29 like this. Men in what look like Ukrainian uniforms. Shooting people with shotguns. You think Russia's gonna do something now? And the Ukrainians have been all to the news saying we're gonna strike inside Russia. They have been with drones. They've had cross-border attacks. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I can feel the danger folks. I spot her since it's never wrong. Right now I'm feeling extremely guilty that I did not leave two weeks ago with my family in the southern hemisphere. I felt it, I said, I feel like we crossed the river. Look at the shopping mall in flames for miles away. Massive terror attack. Can you imagine, probably 50 men to 100 men did that? Look at the shopping mall in flames for miles away. Massive terror attack. Can you imagine, probably 50 men to 100 men did that.
Starting point is 01:20:29 You imagine the million Muslims in America, military men, can you imagine the 10 million in Europe, what they can do when they decide to go crazy? So this is what Alex does with content like this. He plays it. It obviously is disgusting and emotionally visceral. And he uses that to instill those feelings and plant them in and associate them in the audience with Muslim immigrants and Muslim Americans, honestly. Yeah, I mean, we've seen that movie, right? We have. We've seen the movie where the guy talks over a mass shooting video about how here are the people who did it and here's what you need to do to them. We've seen that video. I feel like I've seen it on Alex's show. We've seen that movie play out a lot. So it is repulsive behavior, but this is the dynamic This is what Alex is trying to achieve with content like this. Yeah, there's just no other way to that's And he doesn't what's what's so fucked up?
Starting point is 01:21:36 He doesn't even know how incredibly fucked up that is I wonder like that was just in that that was just part of it You know I do wonder if on some level he understands the deeply fucked up-edness of this being the kind of content. Yeah, I don't know. He probably thinks RoboCop was a hero story. I've heard him talk about RoboCop and I do know that he doesn't understand it. I can tell you that. That sounds right.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Yep, that makes sense. So Chase Geyser comes in with a little bit of an interesting question And this is a question he pops off He erupts. There we go with the question that I think is probably should be on the tip of every Conspiracy theorists mind. Okay. What do you make of this? Can you feel the danger? Yeah, I can absolutely feel the danger and the crazy thing about this is it's never obvious initially, except for maybe to you, Alex, you were really good about this with 9-11. Who's actually behind it?
Starting point is 01:22:31 So 9-11 happened, 90% of Americans believe that it was a terror attack because they hated our freedom and they didn't have any inkling to think that maybe it was planned or a false flag or we knew it was going to happen and allowed it to happen. So I'm wondering, what are the odds, Alex, that it's right after this election for Putin, or the odds that Russia wants this to happen so they can use it as an excuse to escalate? He's won by 87%. He's trying to escalate. The Ukrainians said we're going to stage terror attacks. They're on record. I blame Russians. I blame Russians in 10 seconds. But because I hope they did it because they use it for domestic. No, this is this is full war. I
Starting point is 01:23:09 just pray right now Putin has restraint chase. Yeah. So no, no way. Not chance. Not chance. No way. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. And to be fair, I think that people jumping to that conclusion on social media were just as wrong as Alex immediately jumping to blame Ukraine, you know, like it's you know, just because you believe that someone like Putin as a leader has the Ability to do something like that sure does not mean that he did and does not mean that every incident is right I think that a lot there were at least a fair amount of people who
Starting point is 01:23:45 Had that perspective that I think were you know, just just as reckless as as I was coverage Yeah, that doesn't sound right Putin's so personal He always knows and he likes it when they know that they got murdered by Putin. Yeah Like pin a note. I mean if you look back at a bunch of him He's got a real personal kind of you know whenever it's him. Well I think that this obviously has echoes of the apartment bombing. I think that a lot of people bring that sort of baggage into it.
Starting point is 01:24:22 And I think that Alex might too. It's just that his stance on that is that it wasn't a false flag now. This is so weird because I mean, five years from now, you know, well Lord knows what five years from now looks like. But does Alex not be on Russia's side and then say that this was a false flag? I think there's a lot of even though it wasn't and like you know like is he gonna be wrong about something that he's Deliberately not entertaining because of his I think if there's one thing I know about Alex He has an astounding capacity to be wrong about it, right?
Starting point is 01:25:00 So we're all in interesting and diverse ways novel. Yeah, yeah, but who knows I mean, there's there's so many different variables about the way that things could play out. Yeah, that would change the levels of awareness that he has about various things storylines allegiances Associations change. Yeah at a whim. So I mean, who fucking knows? But I do think that Chase is asking the exact question that should be on the mind of a conspiracy theorist, and Alex is just, no, no.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Yeah, I mean, it was reported these people did it. I'm a conspiracy theorist, so I cannot possibly believe that. Except in this case, I do totally believe it. And Alex is like, yep, nope Nope this one they got right 100% Wow, so We get some more calls we go back to the Twitter space sure and this one person has a recommendation of someone Alex needs To talk to okay, Liz Churchill you have joined. Are you still there? Please unmute yourself Yes, I'm here and I'm just looking at this Russian terrorist attack right now. And I actually think it would be an excellent time to discuss what Scott Bennett has told
Starting point is 01:26:15 your audience in the past. And he recently broadcasted from Global Freedom TV. My former Army intelligence, high level officer great guy yeah she has he has been 100 correct so with saying that he did state yesterday on his podcast that this would exactly happen and here we are and he i'm gonna get scott vennett on right now we're keep going get scott vennett on right now. We're going to get Scott Bennett on right now. And I would this is very important, Alex, because got Bennett stated yesterday, that the US is planning to do the exact same thing. And they're planning to do it soon. He made this warning yesterday. He spoke with Dr.
Starting point is 01:27:02 James Betzer. And they had a conversation together, and it laid the blueprint. Yikes. So yeah, Scott Bennett is a longtime associate of Jim Fetzer, someone who Alex is supposed to believe is a complete lunatic who he wants to know nothing to do with. Right. Fetzer published the book No One Died at Sandy Hook, so he's a person that Alex should be really aware is not cool. And people who choose to associate with him regularly should be met with some skepticism.
Starting point is 01:27:29 In a sane world, Alex would realize that Bennett is a guy who goes on Fetzer's show and calls everything fake and spouts a ton of bullshit, so he should discount him out of hand. Instead, Alex seems to think he's a really legit guy. So Bennett is not former high level officer or army intelligence, any of that fact. In fact, he's a bit of a fraud. I say that because he was sentenced to three years in jail in 2011 for pretending to be an active duty officer when he wasn't. That is a bit of a fraud. Yeah. So in April 2010, Bennett was arrested for a DUI near the gate of MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, at which point he had a concealed loaded
Starting point is 01:28:05 handgun on him and a shitload of weapons in his car. As the case unfolded, it came out- Taking him to an immigration center, a migrant center, right? Probably taking him back to his home on the Air Force Base, because it came out that he actually had an apartment on the base, which he had conned the military into giving him, posing as a soldier, attached to the head of Special Operations Command, which is housed there. He'd lived on the base for three months under these false premises, and he'd routinely pretended to be active duty, he would wear military uniforms to keep up the act, and
Starting point is 01:28:37 everything. In reality, Bennett was an Army reservist who'd only ever been on active duty for one week to attend a training session. He was, however, a contractor for Boo's Allen Hamilton, a position he found himself in after he had gotten a job with the RNC, and it pivoted into that. He probably could have gotten away with this for a whole lot longer if he hadn't been drunk driving with a ton of weapons, but oh well. I mean, you know, it is one of those things where the twin confidence that you need to pull off a dumb shit like that Is also what leads you to drinking and driving with a bunch of guns in your car?
Starting point is 01:29:10 Yeah, it's the same thing fly too close to the Sun. Yeah, it's the same impulse Yeah, he got arrested and charged with this massive fraud So naturally he's now a vaunted expert for the most unhinged conspiracy shows online If a complete fraud who's a longtime associate of Jim Fetzer is saying the stuff you want them to say then that guy is a great man with a sterling reputation and this is where I start to think back to Alex's earliest memories of his family working on space stations. Yeah, there's definitely that. Maybe he's not such a great arbiter of...
Starting point is 01:29:42 I just hate that it's like... No, you should be like, that's the guy who did it, right? Oh, he predicted it? No. He orchestrated it. He's in on it! You think Scott Bennett did it? Obviously! He's gotta be in on it! You can't predict things! What did he write? Operation Scott Bennett Woods!
Starting point is 01:29:59 That's what's going on, man! No, Scott Bennett's got a... he's got a alibi. He was crashing at another Air Force base. Spy! That's what's going on, man. Now, Scott Bennett's got a, he's got a alibi. Ah. He was crashing at another Air Force base. Ah, spy. Under false pretenses. Just going from Air Force base to Air Force base. I do think, I mean, there is an almost catch me if you can kind of element to the nerve
Starting point is 01:30:18 that it takes to go to an Air Force base. Of all the places. And start living there. Of all the places. Stashing tons of weapons there. I mean. Because also when they searched his apartment they found all kinds of weapons that he was not allowed to have.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Of what? Yeah. Why? The places to do that, that's almost like nobody would ever believe I would have the balls to do this. Right. So obviously I'll get away with it. Yeah. No one would ever believe I would have the balls to do this. Right. So obviously I'll get away with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:45 No one would ever do this. In terms of somebody who, like, had turned their life around and maybe was on a better path, I think this is a funny story. It is. In terms of someone who's still defrauding people and pretending they were a high level intelligence expert and all this, it's not cute. No.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Nope. Not cute at all. Also, one of the things that I learned was that he had a bunch of weapons that were like, you know guns and knives And stuff but also throwing stars. Okay. So are you telling me that he did three years for impersonating an officer? Mm-hmm Among the other crimes. Okay, so so the possessing all of those illegal weapons that he shouldn't have had I don't remember if that was one of the charges on an Air Force base I assume the DUI was not allowed to be on,
Starting point is 01:31:26 it was against the law for him, it's against the law to be on an Air Force base and live there if you're. I imagine he could have been there. But fraudulently getting an apartment there. It feels like that was a great day for the judge. The judge was reading through that case just being like, I don't even know what justice means no more.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Yep, this guy has confused me. Yep, yep. The judge was reading through that case just being like I don't even know what justice means no more This guy has confused me. Yep. Yep. So this same caller has another Topic that she wants Alex to address Princess Kate has just admitted she has cancer Good God What? Yeah That's what has happened she put out a video stating that she has cancer and that she's at the beginning stages of treatment. And it was a very difficult time for her and her family to explain it to her children. And she wishes privacy. Yeah, they may already killed her. Who knows? All right. Thank you so much. Her children are doing a great job.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Reaching 10,000 today. What? All right. All right. Thank you so much. Liz Churchill doing a great job. Ration 10s only today. What? All right. All right. Strange. Okay. When did they kill her? If they have already killed her.
Starting point is 01:32:32 She never lived. Right? What was the time? She's been a hologram the whole time. Well, we were trying to do stuff, but I guess we just have to kill her. Okay. I think that the underlying implication and the way that this will end up getting spun is that she got a vaccine and that gave her cancer. Sure. Sure. I assume
Starting point is 01:32:51 that that's the eventually where we're land. But yeah, Alex is, I think he doesn't give a fuck and that's why he's like they probably killed her already. Yeah. That's a real dismissive. Like I don't want to talk about this. Yeah. Yeah, I don't give a shit about the Queen Future Queen wait is she a future Queen no uh who cares fuck them all Don't cut the Royals don't count uh But here's what I'm saying all right. Here's what I do. I'm in Kate shoes I get a terminal diagnosis. That's tragic don't want to I don't like it terrible, but Going out exactly the same way princess died did and that would fuck up the whole world forever diagnosis that's tragic don't want to I don't like it terrible but going out exactly the same way princess died did and that would fuck up the whole world
Starting point is 01:33:29 forever like if I could orchestrate that thing do it just because I had been given a terminal diagnosis then the entire conspiracy theory world would never recover from that right there's no way to recover. Maybe. I don't know. I hate two princesses. Same way. No, I do. I agree with you. I think it feels to me the sense that I get.
Starting point is 01:33:56 I'm not in granted. I'm I'm I'm not super. I haven't been watching the super closely. Sure, sure. But it doesn't seem like this conspiracy Has attracted the same type of conspiracy theorist now as like people like Alex. I know I think that the where is Kate? Conspiracy theorists are far more like there's more celebrity people. Yeah, and like people who are interested in the Royals and what? I don't see a difference But yeah, I think Alex you could tell he's not interested in this. Yeah, okay. She died just like die. I don't see a difference. But yeah, I think Alex, you could tell he's not interested in this. Yeah, who cares?
Starting point is 01:34:25 If she died just like Di, I don't know, I'd be like, yeah, she was already dead. It's not that exciting because it's really just like she disappeared, you know? If we had a, I have no idea what I'm talking about. So Alex brings in Psobik. Yes, we got a hold of him. Yes, and they found that clip, but they're not going to play it. Jack Psobik, naval intelligence expert in all this, the most accurate person. It's just true. Ever. In the last few years predicting all this was on a month
Starting point is 01:34:53 ago, two months ago, five months ago, the crew did a great job of just 30 minutes. They found a bunch of these clips, but the interest of time, I'm going to archive this at band.video. I'm going to archive this at X today. We'll post this. In the interest of time, unless Jack says play it, I'm not going to archive this at Vandau Video. I'm going to archive this at X today. We'll post this in the interest of time unless Jack says play it. I'm not going to play him predicting it. Millions of people tune in today. You heard him predict terror attacks on things like shopping malls, universities, government buildings. I remember him saying it. The crew, to their credit, in 30 minutes, found it. That's needle in a haystack. In the time that you're explaining this, could have played it this screams to me they found
Starting point is 01:35:27 Cliffs but they're not as good as a they are not what I remembered them being because my memory works The same way my mind does where I make up what I would prefer to have have happened and in the interest of time We're not gonna play those clothes. He says that repeatedly. Yeah, so takes a lot of time doing so Yeah, yeah, so but has a take on this and Who knows who actually did the attack in Moscow sure, you know, who knows? Yeah, I mean a lot of possible suspects I don't know but you know why they did it and no I don't need a new crane No, I can I do there are many groups in within Russia that are opposed to Putin and opposed to Putin's regime And so if you were working at the CIA,
Starting point is 01:36:07 if you're working at one of these agencies, you wouldn't necessarily go directly to Ukrainian groups. You could also find potentially anti-Putin Russians like the ultra-nationalists and others to do your dirty work for you. So again, we don't have confirmation yet, but there's a lot of potential suspects. Put it that way.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Yeah, put it that way. We don't know who did it, but once we do, we're going to say that they did it on behalf of Victoria Newland and the NATO forces, and it's going to be because of Ukraine. And it's going to be false flag on that front once we find out who did it. Just too many movies. Just too many movies where it's like, oh, the terrorist group is just gonna take a call from somebody who's representing NATO. Bring, bring.
Starting point is 01:36:48 And then, no, no, no, no. You can't tell anybody I'm representing NATO, but we're gonna give you a lot of money, untraceable, of course, to perform terror attacks elsewhere. Not gonna be associated with us at all. Like, yeah, that's true. This, to me, is the cart before the horse. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:37:04 Like, almost definitively We know the story that we're going to apply to whatever group this does end up being Yeah, but we're not letting the actual story guide the story We're telling we're telling the story and then we'll make the details fit. Yeah. Yeah, then that's not Yeah, we always not great. Yeah, we talk about wet cement. This is they're like, ah, we'll just we'll just make a mold We haven't even poured this cement, but the cement will fit in here Yeah, we'll figure it out as we go along details will be forged. Everything is fine Yeah, so Alex does get Scott Bennett noted squatter to the the program
Starting point is 01:37:36 So Alex heard Scott Bennett was just on Jim Fetzer's podcast from a person and then was like well wish to go I get him on. Yeah, we gotta get him go that name is a fucking alarm no no which actually to me indicates I don't think that Alex has as negative a feeling about Jim Fetzer as we would like to believe based on you should the trial and based on how much of a problem Fetzer is for Alex yeah I think he's still kind of has positive feelings like they like each other still so wild also Scott Bennett seems like an asshole. Yeah Former Army Intel officer with a whistle on incredible things like he was on his show yesterday
Starting point is 01:38:14 We have that club to understand my playing and con predicting terror attacks in Russia Scott Bennett quickly What do you think's really behind this? We'll go back to Jack Busevich This is the last death throes of a bunch of mongoloids with mental syphilis who mumble in ebonics otherwise known as the ukrainian cia mercenaries whoof that's a hell of a sentence did he just say ebonics he did he did what did they mumble in ebonics what what yeah i don't know he's bringing a lot of baggage Any of what's going on here that is that is inexplicably racist in a lot of ways that I don't even understand Yeah and I'm not sure that my
Starting point is 01:38:53 Listening to the limited amount that he is on the show for the rest of the time helps clear any of it up I got no answers for you great. Just seems like a prick just a real piece of shit racist. Yeah, so Jack Seems like a prick just a real piece of shit racist. Yeah So Jack Sobik comes in and this is our last clip we have here and he also is of the mind that there is no chance No, that this is a Russian false flag, right? None, right? I'm being told and by the way, I've seen on on Twitter right now I'm seeing on X that there are people saying that this is a Russian false flag operation Somehow that the Russian government and the Kremlin ordered this This is what what all the neoliberals, all the NAFO people, the Malcolm Nances are saying. Why would they do that? Why would they want to show
Starting point is 01:39:31 weakness? Why would they want to, why would Putin want to show weakness after he just had this huge electoral, you know, this electoral victory, gives this huge celebration speech, etc., etc. And now he's gonna come out and let his people be killed like this or order something like that. It's ridiculous and it's nonsense. Well, let's go further. I said this is trying to break the resolve of the Russians. That's what they're attempting to do.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Jack, I said this again. We're live right now, but I've got like seven clips of you now. They tell me predicting this last three months. So we're going to add this in post or air it later. It's going to go on X today. You can retweet it. I wish I was wrong, Alex. I wish I had been wrong in the interest of time
Starting point is 01:40:05 We're not gonna play all these there's a massive amount of clips that we found of you But yeah So I think that if you allow this kind of thinking then all false flags probably aren't actually false flags I just like you know Bush Bush was just elected in 2001. Yep, you know, why would he want to show weakness? Yeah, he just you want to project strength to the world and here he has 9-11 happen. Does this, this argument is deployed inconsistently because it's in service of the conclusion they want
Starting point is 01:40:38 as opposed to it actually being a reason why something is or isn't a false flag to them. Yeah, yeah. Okay, listen, alright. If Putin is next to you, if Putin is watching you or surveilling you, Putin won the election. In any other circumstance, no one believes that they visited, no one, no one believes that it was an election. Nobody believes that whatsoever. And if you act like it was, you are embarrassing yourself. If Putin's right next to you, he won that election because he's a fucking great politician.
Starting point is 01:41:14 He campaigns better than everybody else on the planet. Putin is not near you. He did not win an election! Maybe that's kind of the point is that Putin is like an imaginary friend to them and he is always with them. That is a good point. Yeah, I mean like, come on, listen, you like him, but I mean still, there's no way you can credibly convince yourself that that was even close to a democratic vote thing.
Starting point is 01:41:38 I disagree. It was one of the most legitimate elections that has ever happened. I mean, but see, you can't, like, even even if you try and pull like that's over the top. Try and say something that is like, but that's kind of what they say. I know. But you try and sell it. Try and sell me like act your balls off, Dan. Sell me on this election. It was a tight one.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Yeah. Late voting tended to. It was a tight one Yeah Late voting tended to I don't know. I can't do anything. All right. No, I'm trying to bar still. Yeah Yeah, so we come to the end and you know, I think that there's there's some Important things to keep in mind sure and it is kind of notable that it runs through both of these stories. The one that Alex wanted to cover and then the terrorist attack that ends up derailing and taking away his attention from the primary subject of Gaza. And that is that all roads lead back to immigration. This is anti-immigrant sentiment that is being masqueraded through coverage of atrocities against civilians or the people who are the terrorist attack in Russia. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he it's it's just almost fucking Faustian like the the pushing a a horrible
Starting point is 01:43:07 Dehumanizing genocidal agenda through the performative empathy of Caring, you know, like that's that's the that's the real dark shit Yeah, whenever you hide it in empathy. Yeah, it's upsetting and I think that I Don't know that a lot of people are being necessarily fooled by Alex's sure, you know performance of something that looks like empathy Yeah But I still think even if you're not being fooled by using him as a prop to be like even he gets it Yeah, that is tacitly saying that he gets it. That's just wrong.
Starting point is 01:43:46 And you're signing off on a number of unspoken and underlying aspects of the narrative that of course aren't first and foremost in the tweet per se. Yeah, it is. Alex exists on the extreme, which means you cannot treat him like other people. You can't.
Starting point is 01:44:10 He's a specific case. So it is like 99% of the time, if you are doing something, if you are engaging in the like, see, even idiot A knows this, you're fine. But if it's Alex, you're still wrong. You're still doing a bad job. You're still hurting people. And I wonder if it is the case that in a lot of those cases with Idiot A, it is bad. Could be.
Starting point is 01:44:35 We just don't realize it because we don't have as much awareness about the person. And maybe if we were more careful about Idiot A, we wouldn't wind up with Idiot Alex Jones. That's true. That's true. So we come to the end of this and... Ruff is a good... Yeah, that's a good onomatopoeia. And we'll be back. But until then, we have a website. And DBDew at knowledgeright.com. Yep, we're also on Blue Sky. We are on Blue Sky at Knowledge Right.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Yep, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo and the MDZXCart. Beep beep boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop. Woo yeah woo yeah yeah, woo! And now here comes the sex robot. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 01:45:15 I love your work. I love you.

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