Knowledge Fight - #921: April 22, 2024
Episode Date: April 24, 2024In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex reflecting on how he tweeted about Hitler on 4/20, and having an unfortunate interview with a guy claiming to be the son of the co-founder of the World Ec...onomic Forum.
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Hello, Alex, I'm Andy and I'm a lawyer.
I'm a lawyer.
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I'm a lawyer.
I'm a lawyer.
I'm a lawyer.
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I'm a lawyer. I'm a lawyer. I'm a lawyer. I'm Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk
a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
Jordan.
Dan. Jordan.
Jordan, I have a quick question for ya.
What's up?
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
My bright spot today is finally,
Habanero Jack Cheese has come back to the Aldi.
You know, it's one of the downsides of like,
going to Aldi is that there are things that just
disappear.
We've talked about this in the past.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
And Habanero Jack cheese is back.
Amazing.
I never thought I'd see it again.
It's back.
It's great.
Pepper Jack cheese, a little too light.
Habanero Jack cheese, great.
Just the right level of heat to add to a sandwich.
Fantastic.
But now, now I need the chicken rings to come back. Spicy chicken
rings. Those have been gone. Those have been gone forever. Anyway, it was great. When I
saw that, I was like, wow, reunited. Good day. Yeah. How about you? I like it. I suppose,
I suppose I'll say that on the day that people are listening to this. It's a nice day for you
It's a whatever
Anyways, no the good news is my bright spot is that my wife made you something. Oh, that's nice. Yeah
It's it's really cool. I'm really excited to give it to you. I can't give it to you tonight, okay, because
She can actual obligation. Oh, she did she didn't get home from school early enough Okay, so I'll be able to get it to you tomorrow, but I've got a really nice gift for you. Okay
Well, that's very nice. I'm really excited to give it to you. This is a tease. It's a tease. I'm excited
It's gonna be your bright spot on Friday or she is gonna be mad at you. That's the other. Yeah, I'm sorry
I hate to do it to you, but I like to announce in advance my bright spot is being dead for Friday. I quit.
I'm sure it'll be wonderful. Very excited. Of course. Um, so today, uh, we have an episode
to go over. It's a mess. Oh, it is a total mess. Oh no. Huge, huge mess. This is April
22nd, 2022, uh, 2024, 2024. Okay. I got caught up in the two. Did we go back? No, April 22nd, 2022. 2024. 2024, okay.
I got caught up in the twos.
I was gonna say, did we go back?
No, April 22nd, 2024.
Mess.
Mess.
Total mess.
Total mess.
Can't even stress it up.
So no other descriptors.
Can't stress the mess.
No descriptors.
And we'll get down to business on that,
but before we do, let's take a little moment
to say hello to some new wonks.
Ooh, that's a great idea.
So first, my wife and I accidentally left Knowledge Fight on.
It was not the foursome she expected.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
Next, Mike, the Knowledge Spike.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
And Aaron and Elijah, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
And we've got a couple technocrats in the mix.
Jordan, so thank you so much to Ozzy Mandam-us. And you're now a policy wonk. Thank you very much. We got a couple technocrats in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to Ozzy man
Damn us and you're now a technocrat and thank you so much to welcome to the world Kaylee Hope
Your parents are trying to make the world better for you. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat
I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above
My enemies I might quit tomorrow. Actually, i'm just gonna take a little break you down
a little breaky now. A little breaky for me and then we're going to come back
and I'm gonna start the show over.
I'm the devil, I gotta be taking off the hair, I'm doing all this...
Fuck you! Fuck you! I got plenty of words for you but at the end of the day
fuck you and your New World Order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all
your shit.
Maybe today should be my last broadcast. I mean,
maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately
Having breakdowns on air
I'll be better tomorrow. He will not it's a mess. It's a mess. Everything's a mess. Is he a mess today? He's yeah, I mean
Hard to say okay. So look here's the situation
No, I can't get it out of okay. That's part of the situation
And here we go in the background and we'll live with us for the next however long this takes focus He's a mess. No, I can't get it out of you. Okay. That's part of the situation.
Here we go.
And he's in the background and will live with us for the next however long this takes.
Focus.
420.
Happened.
Okay.
You got the headband?
Yes, 420.
You know about 420.
Yes, the marijuana smoking.
Puffin weed.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, puffin, puffin weed.
Yeah, that's what people do on 420.
All right, I like that.
However, it is also Hitler's birthday
It is it is famously both the day you smoke weed and the day you celebrate Hitler's birth
And some of Alex's audience might be more enthusiastic about one of those things that sounds right that sounds far more likely
libertarian drug legalization side of things so So Alex tweeted about his distaste for Hitler on 420 and got a bit of backlash.
Got a bit of people not liking him for it.
Let me see if I understand correctly.
Alex tweeted out something like, hey, just to remind everybody Hitler equals bad and everybody went hey buddy
I think that I you're softening both Alex's tweet and the responses to him
But yes more or less okay all right, and so you know
for 20 ends
The high wears off sure now. We're back at it 21st use chill 22nd
you got to deal with reality you know what the Hitler things that you said on
Hitler's birthday so Alex comes into studio and he really wants to talk about
how splash on social media with this okay and it sort of deal with the the
fallout okay coming up under the deep dive on Adolf Hitler.
I put some posts on X this weekend that got tens of millions of views explaining to people
that just because the globalists are bad doesn't mean that being naughty and liking Hitler
is good.
Hitler was a loser.
And I'm going to explain all of that because I am an expert on it.
He's an expert.
So you can tell from listening to Alex that he's invested in pretending that these people
don't actually sincerely support Hitler.
They're quote, being naughty and they're only liking him because the globalists are so bad.
It's a lot easier for Alex to deal with this if these people are just trying to be shocking
by presenting Hitler as the lesser of two evils because the alternative is recognizing
that he played a big role in ushering people to the point where they legitimately support Hitler.
So Alex had a big 420.
An account on Twitter called Skitzo Truth decided to post a collection of pictures of
Hitler to celebrate the birthday, and Alex reposted it with the comment, quote, Happy
birthday to the man who got 24 million Germans killed.
Hitler also launched a war that killed another 80 million people.
Just because our rulers are evil does not mean Hitler was good
Fuck a doll Hitler and before we go any further in a vacuum. That's a good thing pushing back against Nazis
It is a good action
So I wanted to make sure that I clarified my criticisms aren't that Alex put out an anti Hitler post sure my criticism
Is that I can't believe he wouldn't recognize that this wouldn't be super unpopular with the audience that he's
he wouldn't recognize that this wouldn't be super unpopular with the audience that he's attracted.
The replies to this tweet were wall to wall antisemites accusing Alex of selling out to the Jews and spouting all kinds of Nazi shit. There are two points that I think are pretty important.
One, on some level, Alex knew this was going to happen. And he was mostly baiting people for
attention. That's the game that he's playing. He can't possibly be oblivious at this point that a huge section of his audience, particularly
the more online Twitter section of it, includes a huge amount of Hitler fans.
At least a part of this tweet was an attempt to get a ton of attention by eliciting a negative
reaction from his audience for doing something that the rest of the world would support.
And you can kind of tell that Alex is excited about it.
He starts by saying how much traffic, tens of millions of views on this tweet
That's really the ultimate game that's being played and tricking people into saying even Alex gets this
You know tricking people who are critics of him into saying positive things about it
And the second point is this is kind of the type of site the Twitter is now
Where you say something negative about Hitler and people just fucking go to town on you wild yep
What uh what a great?
Direction things are going in I feel like
As we reach you know a lot of people when they have midlife crisis is you know you and I both?
Heading strongly towards the middle age
You know I mean not further yeah absolutely
It is it you know you oh, everything's downhill from
here. And a lot of people project that onto the world and they make the world a worse
place because they feel personally that their lives are going to be worse. I don't feel
like we have that problem. I think it's being handled. Our midlife is going downhill, but
that's not our fault. We can't even be blamed for it if if Twitter is life then yes Twitter life is going down
Yeah, it's not our bad. It's a bad vibe over there real bad vibe. Not good. Not good over there
No, so I told you things were you know in addition to being a mess. It was a pretty exciting show
Alex has a pretty huge guest.
Then we have the WEF high-level whistleblower. His father was the founder, co-founder of
Klaus Schwab, joining us from Geneva, Switzerland. No. It's going to be a huge
transmission today. Can you believe it? The son of the co-founder of the World
Economic Forum is gonna be on this broadcast blowing the whistle. I don't know what is or is not going to or not be true.
I reject all of it outright.
I can tell you this.
It's not gonna be a mess.
So we have another guest though at the beginning of the show.
This one, Hitler?
Just enough.
Starting off, it's Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Okay, well not far off. So the mighty MTG joins us.
Boy, was she right about Speaker Johnson from the, you know, she tried to give him a chance.
Trump's tried to give him a chance, but he really showed his cards.
The Democrats are now bragging that they will keep him in power as a speaker.
Even Republicans try to remove him as MTG and others did so successfully spearheaded
by Matt Yates and herself.
So this is a big deal.
Others say, well, she's a troublemaker.
We should just go along to get along.
Well, then might as well put Nancy Pelosi back in there or maybe Adam Schiff or somebody.
So thank you so much, Marjorie Taylor Greene for joining us.
Thanks for having me, Alex.
And this is why I always support you.
You got a great show coming up today. I'm going to do my best to dial in and listen to the rest of it because
I think you're going to be talking about some very important pieces of history that maybe
people don't know or they've forgotten.
So she's referencing Alex's coming deep dive on Hitler. And that's not super great for
sitting a member of Congress to be excited to hear Alex break
down the hidden truths of World War II.
Yeah, that's no good.
It's not.
That's not like you wouldn't want somebody banging the gavel and being like, hurry up,
I need to go watch Ancient Aliens.
It's not far off.
Yeah.
Pretty close.
Not good.
So a lot of what she's on is to complain about the Ukraine funding being passed.
Right.
And then also talk shit on the Speaker Johnson.
Sure.
Mike Johnson.
And fine.
Enjoy trying to vacate another speaker.
Yeah.
I mean, it's so sad because it's like they, what they want is a Democratic speaker of the house to do stuff that they can whine about right?
Having somebody that they have to whine about because they're doing stuff
Also be the I mean, it's just it's just a trap of your own design and making and enforcement
Yeah, I mean, I mean it's it's we want to lash out
Yeah, we don't want to be lashing out at the person that we could conceivably
Actually exert pressure on right right right?
We don't want to have the ability to do something about the things that we're bitching about
No, cuz then we'll have to take the next step and and do something and keep shifting up our leadership
We don't want to do that or maybe they do and that seems to be what they're doing a bit of good big So Alex asks Marjorie Taylor green about that undercover video of the CIA guy
And I think Alex is getting closer and closer to getting himself
Refucked over. I don't want to write myself into the story, but it really is happening. I know you talked about it
I saw you post about it. What do you make of this CIA FBI operative?
you post about it. What do you make of the CIA FBI operative, Gavin O'Blevis, admitting that I was targeted with PR firms setups. And then now we know that the head of the
FBI in Connecticut initiated the suits and William Aldenberg and quarterback the whole
thing. I mean, this is a deep state operation against me, which is illegal in America, in
my view. What is your take on that? And can we have some more weaponization hearings and
maybe drag these guys in before Congress?
Oh, I fully support you, Alex. You've been a top target for my goodness, as long as I
can remember. You have been the top target. And it's because you've always used your freedom
of speech. That's your freedom of speech.
I think Alex is getting dangerously close to getting a letter from William Aldenberg
Quite frankly because he's accusing him of a ridiculous crime at this point. Yeah, I mean I'd be interested to know
Like I would like to talk to Aldenberger to just see what bird all apologies
Just to see what he could do. Do you know what I mean? Like, okay
So you send the letter or you what do you sue him? Like what he could do. Do you know what I mean? Like, okay, so you send the letter,
or what do you sue him?
Like, what do you do?
What do you do?
I don't know.
You have to tackle him, right?
You just have to tackle him.
Because what Alex is doing is accusing him
of a grand conspiracy against him by name,
talking to a sitting member of Congress
about dragging him in for questioning
in front of committees
and what have you.
Yeah.
Like this is, this is pretty fucked up.
I mean we've already established that one of the ways to address shit like this is through
a civil trial.
And here we are, and here he is.
So we've established, so like that isn't now a fact that even the legal system has to agree
on.
They fucked up.
They suck at what they do.
So now that we're there, now what do we do?
And no one is answering that question.
And everyone's just getting mad at me whenever I come up with ideas.
Well, some of your ideas are pretty bad.
That's a fair point.
But, hey, one of the ideas that Marjorie Taylor Greene has, not about Alex's shit, but is
to kick Mike Johnson out of there.
I'm all for it.
Sure.
I think that these folks have an issue that they took over a party, but some of that party
doesn't like that takeover so much.
So they realize we've kind of just got to make our own party.
The only way this will ever stop is until we turn our Republican party into the party
of accountability, the party of Accountability, the Party
of America First. And right now, that is not our party. Our party is dominated by uniparty
members and uniparty control. And Alex, I can promise you this, I think it's time to
totally change the party. We have to change it over. Is it going to be uncomfortable?
Yes. But everybody needs to get comfortable being uncomfortable
because I'm tired of the words without the action.
Well, that's right.
Well, Trump, Trump now has control.
Trump now has control of the RNC.
You know, if Trump gets back in, why don't we just change it
to the American party and just get rid of the Republican party
all together?
We should.
It should be an American party. Yeah, and then the Democrats could change it into the Republican Party altogether. We should. It should be an American Party.
Yeah, and then the Democrats could change that
into the Super American Party.
I love ideas that have been had before
to horrendous results, just coming back up,
being bandied about like it's a good call.
Yeah, yeah.
Pretty dumb.
Let's call it the Confederacy.
Oh, shit.
Let's call our... it's almost parody levels of
Branding and stupid
jingoistic America, yeah
Why what else what else could you what else could you call it just and like okay fine
So now we've got the America party or the the America first party, or the mostest Americanist
party.
Right?
So then 10 years from now, what's your next one?
What's your even morestest American party, right?
Well, you're going to have to find something.
You got to go-
Super America party.
Right?
How high can it go?
Super duper America party.
All right, I'm listening.
Mega America.
Mega America.
Mega America, great!
I like it so
Marjorie leaves yeah, and Alex is gonna get into his his deep dive
You should realize he's read a lot of books. I don't want so many books. Okay. I don't want to say I get lazy
But there's so much news I tend to try to get to a lot of it. So a lot of times I only scratch
the surface. Now compared to other talk show hosts, it's a deep dive and our guests do deep dives.
But really what I cut my teeth on, on their 30 years, is deep dives. Because I was extremely attracted to science fiction, and I was a good reader by the time I was six years old.
I was reading at a high school level.
And then I discovered history.
And I discovered history is very varied. You got to read a lot of history to really get what the history is and then talk to people that were there as well
when you have that opportunity. So I read and I don't want to exaggerate but I lost a lot of sleep from the time I've been about six seven years old till about 10 years ago. I don't read a lot of
books now just I have so much information read so much all day. I might read six seven books a year.
I usually just scan through other ones but I used to read about three books a week
And I would get on Jags, you know, I probably read I don't know 50 60 70 books on
Naval history and naval warfare history books. It was very interesting going back to the
to the booby pirates in the South China Sea or the Greek or Peloponnesians and then right up until Blackbeard and the Caribbean.
A bit of a stretch.
And I probably read, let's not exaggerate.
Five.
Chevrolet Encyclopedias on World War II and World War I.
I probably read 200 books on World War two Wow
And don't do that
Then the interesting part about it and I'm gonna do the deep dive next time. I shall do it later
I'll start doing it. I started doing it. I just kept I just started talking about how many books I've read on things. I
Do I I'm not I'm not
amazed by this
I'm not I'm not convinced by the authority of trust me. I've read a lot of books, bro Yeah, this is the exposition that never ends yes
Yes, and doesn't really help set the stage for me to take what you're saying seriously, so I've read a lot of books great
Okay, I don't know when did when did that happen?
I think it's that's been with
us probably since I think it happened for me with Book It, you know, when you're a
kid and they're like, just consuming books is a sign of intelligence. Yep. Just like
that was the sales pitch of just like all you got to do is be able to take these words,
put them in your brain without saying them out loud and then you are a genius son. It's true. Right? I mean I think that that is not the case.
No, no, but you hope that you go through that and then get a better, you know, but that does seem to
be the mentality that Alex has stuck in here as a guy who's been on air for 30 years. It is that.
Quantity over quality or understanding or internalizing.
Yeah, I don't wanna be the guy who's like,
oh, I don't care about the thousand punch,
it's just one punch, but it's like,
if you understand a book, that's way better
than just having read a bunch of books.
What if it's 200?
And what if it's 50 books about booby pirates?
That's actually probably going to make it more difficult
for you to understand the context
of what it is you're talking about.
I would assume, especially if you have the level of accepting bullshit that Alex does,
if you read 200 books about World War II, you're going to encounter a lot of fucking
stuff that is not true.
And you're probably going to think, oh my god, this is very interesting.
Yeah. think like, oh my god, this is very interesting. Yeah, and I mean, I think probably the hardest part
is going to be eventually the evidence that
is in competition or against it.
There's 200 books.
There's somebody who's going to say this is definitely true,
and another book that's going to say this is definitely not true.
And then eventually you're going to have
to figure out which is which.
Or not.
No, you see, ah, no, that's the problem. If you have to figure out which is which or not don't you see odd? No, that's the problem. Well, you don't figure out which is which and then you do a deep dive. Mm-hmm
This isn't gonna be a deep dive. Oh
Well fair at least we escaped it's gonna be a deep dive into something at least we escaped that and I think a big part
Of it is Alex's family
Did you know that?
But did you also know that his grandfather was that? I did not. But did you also know that his grandfather
was German? I did not know that. My grandfather, his mother's side of the family were storied
Texans founders of the state, literal, you know, the detonators, you know, the Greshams
and others. And Washington, Nebraska, the instigators working with president Jackson years before
to hatch the plan.
Real conspirators shipping shiploads of Bibles into Galveston, having shootouts with the
Catholic priests. Yeah, but his father was only second generation Germans.
And his dad still spoke German, some German, and the grandparents did in Dallas.
They were wealthy, lived in the nicest area there and were very successful.
And so I, when I really tried to get into World War II and my grandfather had
been in the Army Air Corps as well, both grandfathers, I, I, I started talking to my grandfather
who was extremely eccentric and extremely smart and strangely enough, spitting image,
I'm a spitting image of him basically, except he had a cle me quite a bit.
He told you quite a bit.
I your grandpa told you quite a bit.
What? Like that Hitler was bad.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what's going on here.
Is he trying to tell me that his family is all evil?
It's the colonists who fucked over everybody in Texas and also fucking people
escaping the horrors they did during World War I?
They were great conspirators.
This is a concern.
I am concerned about this man's family history.
I'm very confused too, because Alex is telling a story about his grandfather, but then says that his grandfather's father was a second generation German right Alex's great-great grandfather was from Germany, right?
I don't understand. I don't I don't get I don't know right anyway. Oh my god. So yeah, they're they're very deep in the shit
Conspired to create Texas right deal, Texas. Yeah, whatever you want to call it. You remember like with Jackson, saying that with Jackson part, that's evil.
Wow, I guess it depends on your perspective.
But look, his grandfather, German, looks a lot like Alex, also looked a lot like Hitler.
Not great.
And when I was 15 years old hearing all this, it was just fantastical.
But it wasn't BS, it was just fantastical.
But it wasn't BS.
It was stuff he'd lived and stuff I asked about.
I asked him about the Nazis.
And he told me about them.
And he knew a lot about them.
That's not good.
A lot.
So I don't need to read it in a history book. I got it from my grandfather. And what
the Nazis did to the German community in Dallas who weren't Jews, my grandfather had blonde
hair and big blue eyes. I mean, look at his facial structure. That's why they've done
the AI on me. And they do all these famous figures. They do it facial structure. That's why they've done the AI on me.
They do all these famous figures.
This Hitler, they do it with me.
It's like the same face.
It was my father.
Basically kind of look like Hitler.
But the point is, is that, is that he had firsthand experience with the Nazis firsthand
and not when he was in the military I mean that was
another experience with them they were all over Dallas all in the German
community and he got a firsthand look at him so I'm gonna tell that story coming
up okay you're gonna talk about your about your grandpa having run-ins with Nazis in Dallas?
I mean, like...
I feel like the Holocaust is a bigger deal, slightly, than this, but...
Yeah, even in Alex's weird formulation, though, shouldn't he be like, yeah, Henry Ford was
a bad guy, right?
Henry Ford does come up a little bit later.
But like, that's what he's, like all of them,
there were so many Nazis in the United States,
there were so many, they loved Nazis.
Sure, sure.
They were all Nazis, right?
Well, not everybody.
Not everybody, but there were a ton.
There were more than we maybe like to remember or pretend,
but it also isn't nearly, like Alex is a little bit later
gonna be like, everybody loved Hitler,
and that's not accurate either.
No, no, no, no.
Both extremes of this are not quite accurate.
I just don't wanna be the one where,
I don't wanna be the guy who's like,
aha, I look like Hitler.
I don't wanna do that.
He seemed to be-
Just don't do that.
Seemed to think it was very funny.
It's not funny.
It's not funny.
So I mentioned at the beginning of this
that I have a very strong feeling that a fair amount of what Alex was doing was
Trolling yes, and he says as much and he understands that to a certain
Segment of the population Hitler is super popular. Oh, yeah, but he thinks it's the like most of the population
and so I really want to have an adult discussion about this because I
Put out a couple posts that went viral tens of millions of years
When idiots were let's just say ignorant people were wishing Adolf Hitler a good birthday and
They went oh look you got ratioed.
You got trolled.
No, I knew what was going to happen when I did that.
I know how popular Adolf Hitler is.
In fact, if they did an honest poll around the world today, Adolf Hitler is
the most popular politician of the last 200 years.
In Africa, in the Middle East, at liberal colleges,
with white guys living out in the country,
with army officers, Hitler is super popular.
What, you don't think I don't know that?
Oh, oh, I didn't, oh, look, Alex got trolled.
You know, three to one, everybody loves Hitler. Oh, look, Alex got trolled. You know, three to one.
Everybody loves Hitler.
Well, you're the ones getting trolled.
I'll explain it all to you coming up.
Okay.
So yeah, I mean, I think that I think Alex is a little skewed on his numbers based on
maybe the community that he interacts with and is a part of.
But, you know, it is pretty obvious that, like,
that negative backlash that he got
wasn't super unexpected on his part.
He knew that was what was going to happen,
and then it was going to lead to a ton of attention
and engagement on Twitter.
And so, like, people saying that he's getting ratioed,
yeah, I mean, it's fairly accurate, I guess,
but, like, it's not the same as someone
who'd... He walked into it intentionally for the spectacle and the attention that was going
to come of it.
Right. That's why I'm confused by this sales pitch here, or this like iteration of Alex,
because he's aware that what he was doing was farming attention from people who were going to say,
Hitler's great.
Hitler's great.
And that would allow Alex to look like he wasn't evil.
Or look less evil.
At least compared to random people on Twitter.
Yeah, to Hitler lovers.
At the very least, Alex is not a lover of Hitler.
Supposedly.
And yet he is.
But what I don't understand is this part where he's like
Not understanding why people love Hitler well. He thinks that they're just pretending to because it's like
Sort of edgy or against the the normal orthodoxy or right so he's he doesn't he doesn't think that anyone's sincere about it
But that's that's what I'm saying like you're you're telling me that he's self-aware enough to know what he was doing and the reaction
that it would get, and yet he's now not self-aware enough to know that the reason people love
Hitler is the hating and murdering of millions of Jews.
I think that he...
Okay, well, I would say that maybe that is where the deception lies
Okay, in terms of what he's presenting right and maybe he does understand that or maybe it's a self-defense mechanism
That's I mean one of I feel like those are possibilities. You know what I'm saying
It seems very unlikely that he doesn't get that a lot of these people actually
They like Hitler they like what he did and they like a lot of Alex's political positions
Yes, I mean it does feel like maybe he's truly have he truly has like a broken section of his brain that
Refuses to allow him to understand that it might be yeah
He has another sort of thought here, which I'll let you sort of is interesting well
That I'm gonna mention before I cover it after I do the deep dive on
World War one World War two the new class of civilizations World War three what Hitler was really all about but more importantly
Why people?
See him as the anti-globalist today
Because people see things as black and white.
They see things as good guy, bad guy.
What is Stalin good?
No, that's just another tyranny.
Lenin.
I'll say tongue, but dictators are really the hot thing right now.
There's whole groups that love Mao.
There's groups that love Xi Jinping. There's groups that lionize all of this. Why are they doing it? Because
they don't like their current system that's bad. But boy, if you actually studied history
or talked to folks that were there, you're asking to get out of the fire and be thrown
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So yeah, everything is black and white.
That's why people like Hitler.
Dictators are hot right now.
There's a, I mean, they're Q rating for most dictators high.
Just, I mean, the name Q rating for most dictators high. Just, I mean, the name recognition alone for, quote, dictators.
I also, I would suggest that Alex has no leg to stand on saying people are oversimplifying
things.
He thinks he's fighting the fucking devil.
The literal Christian devil.
There can't be any more black and white than that.
Do you mean-
Everyone you don't like works for the devil.
Do you mean the literal creator of the universe embodiment of goodness?
Versus the destroyer of the universe embodiment of evil. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty black and white black and white. Yeah
So look Alex does his plug and yet somehow we don't know where we land on Hitler
So Alex does his plug. Yeah, I
think he realized at some point
like, fuck, I don't want to do a
deep dive on this.
I'm going to do my best to be
concise. And just point people
in directions to do your own
research into World War One,
World War Two. And it's hard to you know briefly describe it
But compared to the other critiques you see out there
It is
deep don't
People just have really no large-scale
historical understanding of the Austrian Empire or the British Empire or the different forces at work or
the first German Republic and you know von Bismarck and then the Versailles Treaty
and then the Weimar Republic and or the SA versus the SS and the night of the
long knives and what the Nazis were really like and I know they got fancy
uniforms and drive around in fancy Mercedes and built big beautiful
buildings and we're obsessed with architecture and all the rest of that.
Well, I mean, you see that translated into Star Wars and how the Empire's got cool looking
ships and uniforms and Darth Vader looks really cool, doesn't he?
But the point is, is that that image you see projected is is the classic signature of
death and they wore skulls on their hats might give you a little news flash that
they're here to bring death I don't I don't think the people who are super
into Hitler are gonna be dissuaded by that I don't think I think they are
aware of that and they're pretty cool with it man oh this is you could could just tell, like, this is a guy being like, this is gonna be a little bit
superficial.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm just gonna rattle off some stuff.
Yeah.
Here's...
I understand when things are nuanced.
Many times.
In fact, I would argue most of the time, things have a great deal of nuance.
Yeah. many times. In fact, I would argue most of the time, things have a great deal of nuance. I just feel like sometimes we have a gift. Life gives us a gift of not having to worry
about nuance just this one time. I mean, listen, it is a gift to just be able to say, Hitler's
evil. Full stop. No context, no explanation.
And you don't need to do it in a million words. Hitler's evil. Full stop. No context, no explanation.
And you don't need to do it in a million words.
No. Just Hitler, bad, done. Moving on. It's a gift.
I do think that honestly a lot of this is going to be giving a bit of short shrift to Nazis and World War II and all that.
And mostly focusing on Alex's grandpa. But...
That makes more sense to me at least at least that makes sense
it does yeah but look here's the thing Hitler made scary faces didn't he if you
look at those faces you know they're pretty scary but look any man can do
that no what are we doing right what are we? If you really pull back and really study Hitler,
the guy was a lunatic occultist maniac
and was on an incredible power trip. I mean, look,
anybody that's a man can run around and act powerful and affect power
and make all those faces and do all that stuff.
People weren't sophisticated 80, 90 years ago.
They're watching newsreels. It looked good to the Germans.
They felt weak. They've been through a lot.
But guys running around in Hugo Boss uniforms and skulls on their hats,
acting tough and sinister, is Luciferian.
And it's just not good and
again anybody could sit there who's a man and act like that i mean because it's an affectation
of what you see when a man's killing you because he has a family looks a lot scarier than hitler
i get mean and angry i could show you really scary looking faces here you go gosh that's even scarier than hit yeah I can look a lot scarier than Gavin Newsom too the point is I
choose not to because that is a spirit of pride and a spirit of Lucifer and
it's the occult and the Nazis were into the occult that a plan to ban
Christianity it's super bad stuff folks and I do not believe the Nazis are the
most evil thing by the way I don't I don't there we are see the backlash of Hollywood and and then by extension the Nazis are the most evil thing, by the way. I don't, I don't see the backlash of Hollywood.
And, and then by extension, the Nazis are the bad guys.
So all white people are bad guys.
Oh boy.
There it is.
Yep.
A little defensive.
There it is.
Yep.
I, I do.
Look, I'm going to just admit right off the bat, I'm not going to fact check
everything that he's going to say.
Uh, I'm going to leave a fair amount of it as fuck off.
But I'm fascinated by the scary faces thing.
I guess that's a...
Is he letting us in on a secret that he knows that we haven't figured out yet?
Only men can make these scary faces.
I've got resting Hitler face.
For the audio listener, made a face yeah super scary very bizarre just just a strange strange brain I I think I think
one of the things about language in the way we interact is so fucking evil is that you can condemn
somebody in such a fashion that the real intent behind what you're doing is to
protect the worst things that they've done mm-hmm so like his him saying I
don't like Hitler even that action functionally is defending Hitler full-throatedly.
You know?
It's at least misplaced criticisms.
That's very least.
If you're going, if you are like, oh, I got it, I'm going to take this Hitler guy down,
people shouldn't wear those uniforms.
It's bullshit.
Well, that's something that I kind of notice.
If you go through Alex's career
He has a lot of feelings that are based in aesthetics. Yeah that like
End up meaning way more like he's really mad at cops in black uniforms. Yeah. Yeah, like that's very aesthetic
But to him it means tyranny
Yeah, you know to me whenever I hear him like talking about the uniforms and trappings and stuff like that
It doesn't actually seem that weird. He's caught up in that stuff a lot, right?
Right, right because if they didn't look like that they wouldn't be bad
Well, they wouldn't be able to pull off the bad that they do because it's cool or something right right
I don't know right. I think but I think that's kind of I think that's part of it
Yeah, I think that's on the way so would you like a
brief lesson in World War one yes and it's true that Britain was heavily
threatened by the Austrian Hungarian Empire Germany was just one piece of
that and that they had surpassed America with inventions and technology were
taking over the world through business, not through military conquest.
And so the Archduke Franz Ferdinand on the eve of World War I was assassinated,
shot and hand-grenaded while driving in a motorcade,
and the war began in earnest.
And then the Austrian-Iran Empire was broken up,
large pieces of it were given to Poland
and France and many others.
And those were the complaints of the Germans and taxes were put on them and an incredible
inflation and they were in a depression much deeper than the depression we even saw in
the United States and out of that angrier world came the
National Socialist Workers Party
That Hitler was a young member of and that it was declassified after World War two that the British intelligence
Have been spying on and funding
Not thinking it would take over later, but just a
Whatever group took over, they intended
to basically be in the driver's seat with.
So British intelligence didn't control the Nazis, but they were there from their inception.
And if you want to actually study the history of that, it's there.
The British intelligence wasn't guiding the Nazi party, especially in the earliest days.
But look, this honestly, this retelling of World War One even contradicts
the version that Alex has in Endgame. Like, World War One was a false flag that was done
in order to create the League of Nations. It's not that, it's not a war that just happened.
So this piece even just like, I don't know, it doesn't match with what Alex is supposed
to believe. Yeah. I mean, if if if if what we can take away is that
Alex understands that in order to get a Hitler to the level of popularity that you need,
you have to essentially torture a large enough population to get them to the point where
they think fuck it. Let's go with Hitler. Then your parallel would be like Trump now mmm mmm but I don't
think he's mmm okay no I'll just move on that okay never mind let that one go this was the
yada yada version of World War one history sure and it leads us to a period of Hitler's rise.
Yeah, let's see how Hitler's doing.
Everyone loved him in the 30s.
And then as Germany builds up and as Germany turns its economy around from 1933 until about 1939,
Time Magazine and the New York Times, Hitler, Man of the Year, multiple times, and he's
a genius, and he's great, and Henry Ford funding him, and Thomas Watson of IBM, and
it was on the local radio stations around the country, and Hitler was a great guy, and
he was the answer to everything.
Henry Ford and Watson are not great examples to provide as being representative of the
mainstream opinion of America.
Ford was a giant anti-semite and Watson was a well-known war profiteer who did business
with the Nazis.
Hitler was named man of the year by Time magazine for 1938, but that doesn't mean they were
saying he was the coolest man of the year.
His actions created the most important development of that past year year namely his destruction of the Treaty of Versailles
And the seizure of Austria Alex often miss represents this man of the year thing
But he's really swinging for the fences here implying like everybody was like Hitler's the answer whoo
yeah, that's a grand exaggeration of of
Hitler's popularity in the United States yeah, I mean in Germany know, getting rid of that treaty of Versailles was pretty big.
Yeah.
They weren't fans.
They were again.
Internationally it was a pretty big deal.
It was a bad move.
It was very big.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So, we have a bit more here about the rise of coming to power.
Alright.
So the Germans had been demoralized, they'd been put down, they'd been in decades of control
and poverty.
And then along comes this low-level corporal and World War I hero, Iron Cross first class
Congressional Medal of Honor, the German's congressional
medal of honor as a message runner in World War I, who would volunteer to run with the
enemy lines while they're being nerve gassed, all the rest of it.
Just being honest about Hitler, he was a German war hero.
Hitler rapidly ascends in the Nazi party and they have a beer putsch where they try to
occupy the Reichstag and then he gets put in jail a few years and he writes in my comp.
I mean, I know the whole history forwards and backwards. It's fascinating.
I've read hundreds of books on it, multiple encyclopedias. I understood it was an important piece of history.
And then Hollywood and the Western establishment then pushed American hegemony and America being the hero of World War two
when America was a part of it, I'm not lessening both my grandfather's in it the Army Air Corps, but
80% of the casualties are more between the Germans and the Russians 26 million Russians 22 to 24 million Germans. I
mean, this was a Russian German slug host and
Then the United States and others came in on the edges of it for the final victory, and we still lost 700, 800,000 troops.
You look it up.
I'm not coming away from this thinking that Alex has a real great in-depth
awareness or understanding from these hundred books or whatever.
For one thing, the beer hall putsch happened in Munich in 1923.
Well, the Reichstag is in Berlin.
I don't I don't. A little different. Well, I thinkstag is in Berlin. I don't I don't a little different
I think you know, they're just words. He's just kind of you know, he's giving you a little timeline
Give me a little scooby-doo-dooby-doo-doo-bitty couple of details here there couple of tidbits
I would posit you this catch phrases. I think in this situation. We are in a
Quantity tells us more than quality
Because I posit to I say this to you.
I think if you read a hundred books about Hitler,
you are telling me something in much the same way
that if somebody read a hundred books about Gil Scott Heron,
they would be telling me something,
which is that you are really fascinated by this guy,
and you think he's cool.
You're a fan in a way.
Yeah.
Yep.
So I think that one of Alex's great misunderstandings,
we can decide amongst ourselves
whether it's a self-defense mechanism or not,
but he seems to think that his audience
is just trolling the left by pretending to like him.
They'll get us.
You have Hollywood then by extension with thousands of movies about Nazis constantly
and then now attaching that to America and now saying conservatives are all Nazis and
racist and we've been hearing this for 30 years.
People go, well, I'm not a Nazi.
So if you're calling Hitler bad and you're calling me a Nazi, well, he must not be bad
because I know I'm not bad and so it becomes a thing to basically troll the left is to
go ahead and say here's Hitler what do you think of that? My issue with Hitler is this
they definitely were obsessed with design and pageantry and nighttime
rallies and in architecture and scary- and architecture and scary looking uniforms.
Nailed them.
And they took over an Austrian-Hungarian empire that had a huge militaristic history.
Okay, okay. So you say my problem with Hitler is this, and then you launch into
what begins with aesthetic complaints.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yep.
All right, buddy. Could I prefer a more flowing uniform? To what begins with aesthetic complaints. Yeah. Okay.
Yep.
Alright buddy.
Could I prefer a more flowing uniform?
I like a different fabric, obviously.
I'm more of a linens guy.
You gotta have something that breathes.
Absolutely, because you know they're not just fighting in the cold.
You think, oh we're the Nazis, we're gonna fight in the... but they were also in Africa.
Those uniforms, horrific in Africa.
Too hot. True. Too hot. I saw Casablanca
They did look great. What are we doing?
I don't know so Alex believes that all these people are just you know they're being called Nazis all the time so they're
Haha, we're gonna troll you we are Nazis bad
And then Alex is gonna troll back with his post about how fuck Adolf Hitler all this all right, but he's just trying to open up a conversation
Okay, but when I posted to troll people because I was planning to do this show this week. I've been saying for a while I would
When I posted on X and we'll show it from X here. We can pull that up place
Saturday on Hitler's birthday
this this post right here, I saw it already had millions of views and
it says Hitler's birthday on 24 photo collection thread. And I said happy birthday to a man
who got 24 million Germans killed, also launched a world war that killed another
80 million people. Just because our rulers are evil does not mean Hitler was good F.
Adolf Hitler. And I knew that from the corners of action elsewhere, the Hitler worshippers
would come streaming out and we get tens of millions of views, which this post got 7.4 million views, derivatives of it another 10 million that I even saw and I wasn't looking.
So 17 million views.
And it did what I wanted.
They're like, oh, you just got trolled.
You just got ratioed.
No, I just opened up this discussion.
So here you see Alex essentially is admitting that he made the post to bait people for attention.
He's trying to give it some kind of high minded justification like he was opening up
this conversation, but it's pretty important to understand that in most circles, that's
not an important conversation to open up.
Most people get that Hitler was a really bad guy, and the Nazis were bad, and they don't
need to troll their audience into talking about it.
What Alex is actually responding to is a major problem that he's obviously aware of, which
is that a large segment of his audience likes Hitler and are Nazis.
This shouldn't come as a surprise given the high number of legit Nazis Alex has had on
his show, how his content is soaked in historical anti-Semitic tropes that he uses to characterize
his vaguely defined enemy, the globalists, and how Alex races to provide cover for every
act of white supremacist or Nazi violence that happens, which will always be labeled a false flag.
Alex's content leads people toward the path that leads in the direction of Nazi ideas,
which is why a lot of the far more hardcore people think Alex is soft but useful.
He's somebody who can reach more mainstream people and finesse them toward more extreme
groups, so even if he's not enough for them, they'll make the most of what he can provide.
We've heard this articulated by people like Nick Fuentes, and I can't imagine any other
reason that Owen Benjamin would do Alex's fourth hour.
Seems like the only real agenda.
Honestly, the problem for Alex is Twitter.
He's always had these Nazis in his audience calling him out for not being Nazi enough,
but they've been pretty easy to ignore.
If he wanted to, he could curate comments on his own platforms, and he could be pretty
confident that on the mainstream platforms where most normal people gathered, there would
be moderation in place where people who posted Nazi shit all the time would be kept to a
minimum.
But now that Elon's running Twitter, that's a problem.
It's very obvious that Alex has a Nazi problem, even in the replies of non-Hitler related
tweets that he posts.
On the one hand, I agree with Alex's instincts that he needs to do something about this,
and having a very visibly pro-Nazi audience is not a good thing.
But on the other hand, this strategy is stupid, and obviously it's not meant to address the
real issue.
The decisions Alex made to cultivate an audience that was warm toward Nazis happened a long
time ago, and nothing that he does now is going to change that dynamic.
He can try to distance himself from that section of his audience, but it's going to take a
bit more than this to achieve that, and doing any of the things that would work towards
that hurts his bottom line.
Whatever this is, the thing he's doing here on the show, it isn't effective. I went to his site, you know, Band.video, and he posted this segment from the episode, and comments are mostly pro-Nazi shit.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
So, I don't think whatever audience he's trying to open up a conversation with are responding.
Yeah. Yeah, I think this is where I think we're headed, or at least I think where I'm at,
is like for the longest time we tried to be like, here's what we need to do, stop using
the language.
And that only taught the Nazis the language of euphemism and allowed them to live and
work freely among us being able to communicate with each other and us being like, haha, see,
they're not saying the N word all the time.
We've done good.
But now we can see that what needs to happen
is stuff like Twitter.
They need to be shown in the light
and then launched into the phantom zone.
You know what I mean?
Well that second step isn't something you can do.
It needs to be like isolated.
Like they deserve to have a place to be awful to each other.
Right, but that was like gab and truth social and those other, like when there's actual moderation in place,
normal people can use social media and not have to deal with this shit. I mean,
but now that is not the case. We need a completely segregated social media.
There's not moderation and then there's real people. If you want to, that's the thing. Maybe
Godwin's law was the wrong move
Maybe it's just there are those Nazis and we shouldn't argue with them. They should have their own space
Give them Twitter. I think it one way or another
They've taken it. Yeah, you're right. So whether you want it to or not, that's a good point. So anyway
Alex finds himself. Yeah on his show. Yeah
Alex finds himself on his show arguing with a random Twitter comment about who started World War II. I hate life.
What really blew me away though, and I'll admit I spent hours, I don't have, it's so fascinating, very entertaining in a sick way, reading, scanning. Oh, I probably read 500 comments and I stopped out there because there's tens
of thousands and a lot of people are smart. A lot of people are making good points, but
I saw other comments in there like, how dare you lie about Hitler? He was attacked first
and offered peace. No, it's not debated that Hitler invaded and took large pieces of other countries that
had been part of Germany before the Austrian Empire.
And then he just said, I'll take Poland.
It's not debated, but you're debating with a Twitter comment.
Amazing.
So I don't think that there's there's a ton of depth here
I don't think this is like an in-depth deep dive whatever and it kind of does
Result in just like kind of shit talk. Yeah, Alex is kind of talking shit on
Okay
Hitler's a real shitty dresser and he does bad breath that he is tells me wrong jealous of other generals
later after
they exterminate all those guys and had Erwin Rommel killed or made him take
sign out or he kill his whole family I mean and and and the Nazis would run
around if you see remains of the day because I've read the real history and
also talking with saw stuff like this the the British Lord who fought in World
War one felt bad
for Germans. So he invited the Nazis in the 30s to his house. And it's a fiction movie,
but it's based on stuff that happened. And while he's out of the room, they're like,
when we take over that painting, that painting, that painting, they were literally pirates
obsessed with loot. Now that's not just in a Hollywood movie. But I am going to tell
this anecdote from a Hollywood movie. Yeah, I going to tell this anecdote from a Hollywood movie.
Yeah, I'm going to.
Now, obviously there are very, there are tons of real, tons of examples of this very obvious
story that are real that I could tell you, but I am going to tell you about the movie
one.
Right.
Because I've read, I've read thousands of books.
I've read thousands of books and I am only going to describe a movie to you.
Great. Great.
Cool.
It's good work.
Ah!
And now we get into Alex's grandfather, who seems like quite a character.
Okay.
My grandfather, I never really talked about this.
He was pro-America, army, or corps, all that.
But after I learned all this when I was a teenager, I went over over there because I'd since moved to Austin last year's high school
I'd visit him almost every Sunday for Sunday dinner. I go to church with him sometimes too
I ran probably didn't talk a lot, but boy we talked and
I said hey, I've learned all this he said yeah, it's it's absolutely true
He said when we grew up in the Dallas
We when we grew up in Dallas, we lived next door to the inventor of, or one of the major patent
holders on refrigeration, who had been born in Germany, but had moved here. And it was
their neighbor down the street. And my grandfather, when I was a little kid, the Germans were
very, there was a big section that were German. He would go over there and see the invention shop and my grandmother later
became an inventor and was successful.
Told some stuff to the Pentagon and a combat robot, early combat robot in the
sixties, but we're real control radio control, but that's a side issue.
It's classified.
I'm sorry.
But my mother remembers coming home from college and seeing, you know, going to the warehouse
seeing the robot, robots, but crowd control robot.
What?
But he talked about this, this, this rich German.
His grandfather lived near the guy who owned a lot of patents for refrigeration.
I feel like this is reminiscent.
I've heard, I think Alex talked to yay about this
But yeah, so he can bet to combat robots, yeah card control remote-controlled
Combat robots. I want to so here's here's the here's what Alex does to me. Mm-hmm, right?
here's what Alex does to me I want to go back in time and
Hound Alex's family for being not from America for a scream at them about how they're monsters who are
In our country and all that shit and then then we won't have to worry about the Nazis. Is that what happens?
I'm not going I fix I'm not going to Jesus Christ. I'm not gonna sign off on your
I'm not going to I'm not gonna sign off on your
Your agenda here I am going to say that I would like to go back in time though
And I would like to find out about these robots
I I just despise the concept of reminiscing about how great immigration is well from Alex that that is true
It's a hard pill to swallow. I will I refuse to swallow it fair enough
Okay, I I refuse to swallow it fair enough damn head that is that is fine. Okay? Um I
Just think I want to fucking see these robots. I do how do you have robots?
Yeah, I would like to go back through Alex's family history
Oh take a stop every generation and really just take in how important every single person who has ever lived who is related to
Him is they're all the most critically connected and they're all amazing.
It is genuinely as if it's like Mishima's golden fucking, it's a reincarnation of the
most important man every single time.
Yeah.
It's a lineage of Forrest Gump's.
So Alex's grandpa joined the military. Sure. Now you
might think he joined the military because, you know, he'd heard about the war and what
was going on in Europe. Okay. No, no. He did not like the way that Nazis were being mean
in Dallas. That makes sense. My grandfather said that the reason he went and joined the military, even though he was at UT in college,
roommates with Tom Landry, best friends.
I was a kid, every once in a while visiting,
like Tom Landry pulled in the car and come in
and like go in the office for an hour praying.
Not bragging, it's just weird history.
And he looked just like the Tom Landry you see,
the hat, the suit, the long arms,
looked really eight years old, it was Tom Landry.
Only saw it once, but they talked every week and prayed.
If I got to their house early on Sundays,
he'd say, excuse me, you go in the room for 30 minutes
and pray with Tom Landry.
Just a weird story.
Those are real Christians.
And my grandfather said that by about 1938,
that the Germans, the Nazis, had threatened to kill all of his family in Germany
if he didn't give them all the money he had.
And the guy had basically sold everything, the equivalent of billions today, and my grandmother
implied committed suicide.
And my grandmother really liked this guy.
And so that was the last straw for my grandfather to get off the UT football team, because he
could have got a deferment, whatever, and him and Tom Landry go and join the Army Air
Corps together.
So that's the reality here, ladies and gentlemen.
So we're talking a fair amount about Alex's grandfather
and his experience with the Nazis.
And I find it to be a slightly underwhelming
or very narrow story that he joined the service,
pronoun reference was a little bit messy there,
but it was the inventor who had the pants in refrigeration.
Who killed himself. Inferred. Yeah, ostensibly. little bit messy there, but it was the inventor who had the pants in refrigeration who killed
himself inferred. Yeah, ostensibly. Yeah. He was being shaken down for money by the Nazis.
Right. And this is why Alex's grandfather joined the war effort because he liked to this refrigerator
inventor. This is strange. I mean, yeah, it does make it does track though with everything that Alex believes. If you were
going to like say that it was taught to him it's learned behavior then yes everything
is about me does make sense as a learned behavior. You know like Hitler did all that. I don't
like the way he fucked with my guy. It wasn't because of the Treaty of Versailles or Austria or any kind of it makes sense. Yeah
Yeah, it's it tracks with Alex. Yeah. Yeah this guy
He stepped on my shoes
So I gotta stop them so gotta go to war if he if if FDR had stepped on my shoes
I would been on the Nazis team that simple. It's that easy. Yep
So Alex seems to imply that he has some kind of secret knowledge,
but I don't think he does. No.
My grandfather is a German, good looking, blonde haired, blue eyes in a rich area of Dallas with
a bunch of rich Germans. And he is witnessing and it wasn't just that. So then obviously he wouldn't talk about it.
He gets in World War II approach and to look into what the Germans are up to.
And he does it.
And he didn't tell me about it, but he told his son who also went into intelligence and
he would, he told me about a lot of it, but
we almost lost the country to Nazis.
And they had the McCormick Dixit committee hearings on it.
I film end game blueprint for global enslavement starts with those hearings
and Spedley Butler, the most decorated Marine Corps general, and they wanted
to be the commandant of the Marine Corps, multiple congressional medal honor winner.
They tried to hire him the bushes with the Nazis to overthrow the commandant of the Marine Corps, multiple Congressional Medal Honor winner, they tried to hire him, the Bushes with the Nazis, to overthrow the US
government.
And I didn't know about that till 25 years ago, I made films about it.
And I made a film about 17 years ago, the big one.
But I was hearing all that from my uncle, who my grandfather told him about it.
And it just gets wilder from there.
So I have firsthand.
Yeah, it just gets wilder. It gets wilder from there. so I have firsthand. Yeah, it just gets wilder.
It gets wilder from there, but we don't know any of that stuff.
All we know is the stuff that we already know.
Like Swedley Butler.
We don't know anything.
There's nothing here.
Just fucking insinuation.
I've been told about all these books he's read.
I only hear stories from movies.
I've been told about all the interesting things that his family has done. Sure. Personally. Yeah. I only hear stories from movies.
And like stuff you already know. Yeah. Stuff you can know other places just from public knowledge. Stuff that was on a meme.
Or maybe narrow personal stories about your neighbor. Yeah. Yep.
Yeah, yep. It's that is the most I find this a little bit soft quite frankly. It's
There's a lot of like stuff. That's like it would be really good if you're sitting around passing a joint Yeah, I'm 420 maybe sure maybe hitler's birthday you you celebrate. Oh my grandpa told me all kinds of stuff
Yeah, my mind is blown crazy
In this context on this show I Know it's not it's not compelling My mind is blown crazy. Yeah, but if you're trying... Jesus Christ.
But in this context, on this show, I...
No. It's not compelling.
I mean, I guess I would be more interested if he would get rid of all of the trappings
of like pretending to care about the world, the war,
and just get into why his grandfather was like very personally motivated
You know like it's the refrigeration inventor
Because his dad or his grandfather was also an inventor of combat robots. So they had that inventor bond
That's not enough for me. Okay, that's not enough for me. I want to hear more about this story
Well, you're not going to well
Maybe you'll hear a little bit more because I would say that a large part of this
Quote-unquote deep dive. Yes is about how Alex's grandpa is cool. Yeah, I mean, yeah and was not a nazi
I feel like that's he was not in question. He might have gone to some meetings of the bund, but
He wasn't a nazi because but again, he apprenticed. That's how things were in the old times
You would work with other people
He worked from the time. He was like 10 11 12
Down the street he described it
To the whole area in the middle of Dallas is around a big park and it's world
It's it's where all the bushes live all them now, but he had a huge laboratory
Tesla type guy
I can remember his name.
I'm a teenager.
My grandfather's telling me about all this.
And this guy was German.
And he wasn't even against Hitler, but he had a bunch of family in Germany.
And they threatened to kill him.
And they sucked every bit of money out of him.
And my grandfather saw that.
So he said, well, the time he was in high school and the Bund was really big. They had Madison Square Garden rallies and they had
rallies in Dallas with 50,000 Germans in Nazi uniforms. And my grandfather never got in
the Bund, but he said, I went to a few of the Bund meetings and I'm sitting around the
kitchen table while he's drinking iced tea, he starts getting tears in his eyes. This one, he's a teenager.
So my grandfather's going to Nazi rallies in Dallas, Texas.
And then he starts learning about the inventor and how they're robbing him.
And the old man's breaking down, crying to him, my grandfather said.
So my grandfather said
So my grandfather went and joined the Army Air Corps
once World War two started he was already at UT playing football and won the
Track championship and
My mom still got the medals first place for the hurdles and all that so the point is is he was a great guy. Great. So this is an interesting personal story. Maybe. Probably. Alex is known to be a fabulous,
so some of the details I have questions about. But this is a very interesting kind of family story
about this grandpa's path to going to the... This doesn't really speak to an important general broad truth
about the Nazis or Hitler. Right. And I think that in terms of the crimes that the Nazis
committed sure extortion low on that list. I mean their fashion crimes clearly higher according to Alex even
They're tyranny their fashion tyranny. Yeah. Yeah, I I don't know I I don't think that I think that Alex might think this is a bit more important than than it is
I am going to say this based on what I have heard. Yeah, I am hearing Alex say that he has read hundreds of books
studied this topic extensively, had many debates, conversations, researched all of this and
after learning everything he can about Hitler and World War II in Germany, he
has come to the conclusion that his grandfather's real cool. He's real cool.
He's a good guy. He's good at track. All right, he's good at track. That's right. I
forgot. That's the other thing that he learned from World War II.
His grandfather was good at track.
So here's another thing about the Nazis.
They wanted to kill H.G. Wells.
And you know they wanted to kill him
because he was competition.
I don't.
And then Alex says something real weird about his dad.
They even tried to have assassins kill H.G. Wells.
You're like, well H.G. Wells wrote War of the Worlds.
Why do they want to kill a science fiction writer?
He also wrote a bunch of non-fiction books Well, H.G. Wells wrote War of the Worlds. Why would they want to kill a science fiction writer?
He also wrote a bunch of nonfiction books,
and he was one of the main futurist brains of the British Empire.
And they had an alternate eugenics plan
that Aldous Huxley also wrote about in Brave New World,
and admitted later was the actual plan,
that we're living under.
So we're living under the British Empire's slow- roll eugenics depopulation system.
Kintler knew about the plan, but decided to only target certain groups.
And I have a lot of other data points on that, where people are brought in that are top scorers and
say the plan to operation at, uh, UT when they're in high school already in college.
And after they've gone through a year of testing and invented, they bring them in
and they say, I'm the head of the botany department and I'm Jewish and we don't
like Hitler, but eugenics is the way to go.
And we're basically going to target everyone, not just certain groups.
My father was giving that speech and he's about as Gaelic as you get.
He's no German and that guy.
He's English, Scottish, a little Irish.
The point is he was top of his class.
He was the boy genius too. It's Irish the point is he was top of his class. He was the boy genius, too
It's not the point and that's why they tried to recruit him and he got into it for a while and got out of it
He thought it was immoral and wrong
But he's never told me any of it
Except that it was going on that I'm right. Okay. All right, man. So yeah, I
I can't conceive of a world where Alex's grandpa is a guy who made combat robots for the Pentagon and what have you.
And then his son, wait, no, it's the other side of the family, right?
Yeah.
Because it's his...
Because his dad's not German.
His dad can't be German.
Right.
If his grandfather, if his dad's dad is German.
It's the other side of the family.
His dad has to be German too.
Yeah, because, yeah.
It's the other side of the family.
Yes, it has to be.
But his dad.
Right.
OK, that was an extra layer to it.
But I still can't conceive of a world where you have the smartest
fucking boy in Texas
Yeah, and they're brought in and they're like we're fucking evil
We're gonna do all this stuff you get involved for a little bit and then you get out. I
Don't think that the evil worldwide conspiracy could work that way. It would sloppy. It's just you know, you know that all the
Just in movies in movies cuz that's how it that's what we're doing. We're just talking movies now
Let's just talk movies and movies. They're like you can't leave we'll kill you because obviously you can't leave because they'll kill you
Right it seems that you can't just like be like I'm out of here friends
It's all go tell other people about this vast decades long
Conspiracy that controls the world and is the British Empire's eugenics program
It seems like the stakes are too high
Gotta give it to the British Empire slow-roll eugenics program slow rolling even see it happen. Yeah, so here's the here's the issue that I
Run into right right a lot of this seems to be based in movies and shit talk from his family. Sure.
And I don't care about either.
Does seem like family legend is most of history
in this story.
All of it seems so much more important
than the fucking Holocaust.
Yeah, yeah.
In terms of when you're talking about
why the Nazis are bad and why Hitler sucks.
Great.
Yeah, I think this is one of those things
where it is like, okay, before we even, I
don't even want to engage with what you have to say first because I want to understand
what you want out of saying this, right?
And what Alex wants out of saying all of this is to feel better about the fact that he essentially
agrees with Hitler.
In a lot of ways and that large portions of his audience
Love Hitler.
Yes.
And think he doesn't love Hitler enough.
Right, right, right.
So all of that, so like at the end of all of this,
the goal, the end point is
It's self-soothing, really.
I feel better about the fact that I agree with Hitler.
Yeah, and kind of trying to put a brave, positive face
on the Twitter post
that everybody was like, fuck you, you don't like Hitler enough. Yeah. That's kind of a
large bit of it. All right. Fair enough. So we get off this topic. Okay. I don't know
if I trust you. The deep dive has finished. Okay. Because we have a big guest. Okay, that's
right. Pascal Najati is our guest. His father was a founding the founding member with Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum and
He was born educated in Switzerland
he worked in public relations before moving into management and mutual funds from 93 2003 served as a managing board member of
Dresdner Bank in London and was a chair of capital markets covering central Europe, central Asia, the Russian Federation Africa, the Middle East.
After the assassination of Malaysia of his father, prominent banker Hussein Nujati, we'll pull some photos up of Hussein Najadi. Pascal, a veteran of the Swiss Air Force, began his whistleblowing
and has been covering the gamut since. He's on rumble.
So it's convenient that Pascal started his whistleblowing after his father died,
because there's no evidence that his father was a founding member of the World Economic Forum.
Okay.
So Pascal's father, Hussein Najadi, wrote an autobiography called The Sea and
the Hills, the Life of Hussein Najadi. And in it, he discusses being invited to attend
the World Economic Forum in 1981. Then, back then it was called the Davos Economic Forum.
This was 10 years after the organization was founded. He was invited to attend. What's
likely being misrepresented is that Hussein says that he was the chair of the
first quote, gathering of developing countries at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
This was something that Klaus Schwab asked him to do in 1981 and he brought in representatives
from India, Malaysia, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia.
In the same passage from his book, Hussein says that he quote, remained a member of the
organization until 1985.
So he was there
during this section of time. He did not co-found it. Pascal Najati is someone who's made some
of the rounds doing COVID conspiracy content and pushing Bitcoin. So adding a layer that
his dad was the co-founder of the World Economic Forum does tend to give him a bit of outsized
importance given that Klaus Schwab is this season's grand villain. It's unfortunately
not true, but good for a story.
Yeah, I mean, if, if...
And you made it past Alex's rigorous screening.
Yeah.
I think, I think, honestly,
if you discover that in your family history
and you're like, I don't know, I'm working at blank,
this is a good gig.
Sure. You know, like, if don't know, I'm working at blank, this is a good gig.
You know, like if your dad has this autobiography
and you've got this like immediate in,
you know, that's a better hourly rate than Subway.
I would assume so.
Making sandwiches is fun though.
And there's that.
I also heard, I don't know if this is totally true,
but I heard that Pascal's grandfather invented combat robots.
Oh shit! There's a lot of people doing that these days.
Yeah.
There's a big competition in the L.
So, I...
Yeah?
...realized that this guy's dad did not co-found the World Economic Forum.
Are you sure?
Yes.
Okay.
And it's being presented like he did.
Very strongly.
And so this makes me worried.
Oh yeah? Lying? Lying out the gate?
Well, and it makes me worried for where is this interview going to go? And thankfully,
I'll say to Pascal's credit, it goes weird almost immediately. All right, Pascal Najadi,
thank you so much for joining us. Your dad was a founding member of the WF, Klaus Schwalbe. He
looked it up. That's on record. He was assassinated in Malaysia,
prominent Bahrainian banker, your father Hussein Najadi. And you are speaking out as a Swiss citizen
and as a humanitarian against what's happening.
Perhaps you should start at the beginning
about your father, yourself, when you awoken,
and then you do a great job in other videos
laying out where we are. But some of those videos are months old I want to get an update from you
because the world really is awakening to the horror they thought we wouldn't be
able to face this horror that was baked into it but it's really backfired and
where you think things are going from here so thank you so much for spending
time with us I know it's in the evening there. And so thank you. Well, I'm in a near continent. Alex, thank you very much. Oh, so
you're over here right now. Okay.
Well, who knows where everywhere the Space Force can be everywhere.
Now, I want to greet you specifically because it's an honor
to be on your show. And thank you very much for your time. I want
to greet your audience and all the human beings human species I
call them now because we are human species. Be careful with technology. The world and
I would like to say special gratitude to all the brave men and women that are in active
war duty since the March 27th, 2020 fighting for our liberty globally under the title 50 USC section 1550 which
is the global defense for that President Trump wartime President Trump current war time President
Trump and commanding chief of the United States has started a lot of respect to these people
because they are in the secrecy no one can confirm it.
Okay okay we're off to the races.
We packed a lot in a very small space.
Quite a bit, quite a bit.
But you know what, everything is just like,
uh oh, uh oh.
The first, like, I'm on your continent.
Yep.
That's even, like, the rhythm is disrupted by that
a little bit, but it's just, eh, eh.
Yeah, but like, okay, Alex made a mistake.
You're on Eastern Standard time.
No big deal. You're not in Central.
We get it. No big deal
Yeah, I'd like to greet all the humans ah
Starting to get a little concerned
Is this ice beneath me creaking all right think it might be then the active the active duty thing
Yeah, that is I think I think what's so scary about that is
There are so many possible things that he could
be referencing like I'm supporting active duty people that are like, yeah, that's not
what he's doing.
That are like, I'm fucked up.
You supporting this is fucked up.
That's not what he's doing.
But then him adding the layer of it's actually Trump who declared space war.
Current wartime president.
Current wartime president Trump, space war.
Yep.
Love it. So this has to do with an executive order that Trump signed on March 27th, 2020, executive order 13912, which covered the authorization to move some reservists to active duty.
Thanks to the covid pandemic.
The authority to do this was predicated on proclamation nine nine nine four, which was the declaring of a state of emergency over COVID which ended on May 11th 2023 by virtue of that emergency declaration ending this executive order is null and void
either that or we're in a secret fucking war that's gone on for four years one of the two
it's one of the two I'm not sure I don't know anymore because I kept calling them humans
but now I need to call them human species or something. Not human beings. Could be anything.
Yeah.
Could be anything at this point.
So we do know, and I'm not making jokes about this or anything.
His dad was murdered.
That is true.
Yeah, I believe that.
And that his dad did have involvement with the World Economic Forum in 1981 to 1985.
Now it turns out that Pascal also ended up going to the World Economic
Forum. It's a point in the nineties because he was working at a bank and they asked him
to sponsor something. I'll let him tell the story. Yeah, let's hear this. It's wild.
Let me hear you. Let's hear this. And I was a banker in London and Dresden Bank was the
second largest German bank in the nineties. The Deutsche Bank and then Dresden Bank was the second largest German bank in the 90s, Deutsche Bank and then Dresden
Bank.
And I was a board member of Dresden Bank London.
And they asked me to co-sponsor this thing.
I took a lot of money in my hands and not my money, it was the bank's money.
And they had a big banner everywhere.
And I wanted to see myself what this was like.
And I went there to Salzburg.
It was the summer in 98. And at the at the castle
in Salzburg on the on the rock swap knows how to do this right to make this big show.
He hosted a cocktail for the co sponsors and the so called global leaders. So they called
me young global leaders. I thought it's crazy.
And I went up to him, because I didn't meet him. I noticed his office doing all this paperwork
with our lawyers and our people. And I went up to him and said, Hey, I'm a dude from Dresden
bank and nice to meet you. Has Robby remember me? The guy turned on his spot. He literally ran away from me. And I said, the guy has a problem with himself.
That's very rude on one hand.
They couldn't comprehend it.
I think we spent about 350,000 Deutschmarks.
At that time, it was quite a lot of money to have a banner up there.
And I just felt disgusted, not because he didn't greet me.
I don't care if this guy says hello to me or not,
but I saw something else.
And if you take a light, it obliquely trades darkness.
It seems to me that I represented for him light
and it just couldn't stand my proximity.
Well, let's speculate.
Do you think as your dad broke away from the group
being a founding member, it used to lead panels panels that he hadn't clicked that you were a sponsor
and that's why he panicked or why would he when you just come over and say, hi, freak
out and run away? I don't know. I don't know. A mix of everything.
It's probably everything. I mean, I made this story up a long time ago,
so I've had plenty of time to think up a possible motive and yet somehow I still get away with not
having one. I think a great motive is I represented light that he was the darkness and he
could not stand in my light that is a good place to stop I do love this image
it's 1998 cocktail party castle yeah Salzburg gosh Schwab runs away from
saved by the bell is on the TV screen
Is on the TV screen
See cuz I thought he was setting it up I thought he was setting us up for like a big like Game of Thrones like they're at this
Salzburg Castle and he pushes somebody off a bridge screaming what is dead may never die or something and instead it's just like
You didn't want to talk to me. You ran away the That's the whole story. I could see, like, I always try to imagine, like,
the most details of this story being correct
that I could believe.
Yeah, exactly.
I could believe just about everything along the way.
Right.
And even Klaus Schwab walking away from him
because he got called away or something like that.
It's a coincidence.
Totally.
And Pascal's adding a whole lot
of meaning to it. And this is me being generous, accepting a lot of details of the story as
just like, I'll stipulate that this is probably true.
Yeah, we'll just move on.
I can still see a benign explanation for this. It isn't him running away from him.
Nope. I could even see him making up this story just because Klaus was like, sorry, I can't. And then like,
he apologized and left, you know?
It's fun though. It's a fun story. I have to admit that. And Alex likes it. And if I
were Alex, I would be a lot more worried. There are indications that this interview
is not going to go well. And Alex is ignoring them because there is good COVID conspiracism.
This guy is supposed to be adjacent to the World Economic Forum. It's very attractive as an interview guest. So we're going to ignore
some glaring sirens. They're saying, dude, get off the call, get off the call. There's
a lot. And here, here's one that I started to notice. Okay. He's saying that a lot of
people are dead. The W WF was a Kissinger CIA operation, a deep state operation.
Schwab was executed, a fascist Nazi.
And he was interlinked with the Swiss government.
To be very clear, I'm a Swiss Air Force officer and I gave an oath to protect the constitution.
So Klaus Schwab is dead.
Yeah.
Apparently. Yeah. Apparently.
Yeah.
And I started to notice this.
A lot of people he's referencing have been taken out.
Already executed.
Right.
Secretly.
And this just is sad and Alex doesn't push back.
It just goes on.
So this is, I mean, people keep popping up dead.
People keep dying.
It's the first broad scale state sponsored, that's what they must say, is state sponsored
mass murder of your own population.
And they monetize it where they make money while they do it, which funds it.
But it's not the money.
It's not the money.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not about money.
I'm saying they, they know how to use money to fund it to make sure it's carried out.
It was sponsored by the WHO, which is look, Bill Gates is executed. Bill Gates was in bed with the
rogue elements of the Chinese Communist Party. And they were planning this, of course. And the
biggest thing I'll see of WHO, go and check the website was W was gone now. Don't worry.
We watched the Chinese, the Communist Party, World Health Organization's gone. Bill Gates is gone.
I am don't worry about it. I'm interested in this kind of Marie
condoing of the narrative. You know, like, Oh, I just don't need this. So
it's gone. Yep.
If I were Alex, I'd be very worried.
I would be done. Excuse me. Right. I'm sorry. Yeah, but he's you know, he's a guy who believes
that he's been poisoned by the COVID vaccine. Right. And he has a certain amount of popularity,
I guess on rumble or something. But there's some stuff that is is just like, you got to
deal with this. Yeah, you can't just ignore that he's saying the Clash Schwab and Bill
Gates are dead and the World Health Organization is gone.
You know what it is?
Here's the problem.
Here's the problem with that, right?
Is because of AI and deepfakes and stuff like that,
in this world, you can't even really be like,
I saw them on fucking TV holding today's newspaper.
You can't even push back on them like that.
Because in the day before that, before AI and shit, you used to have to have a clone.
You used to have to have walk-ins.
You used to have to have a real reason for this stuff.
Hold on to that thought.
Oh, tell me this.
Oh, thank you.
All of my complaints have been washed away.
Hold on.
I have been baptized.
This might be more Wacky Wednesday than we expected.
So everything that's evil comes out of Geneva.
It's all Switzerland.
And Trump took it all out.
Everything evil is in Geneva.
And it is obliterated already.
I leave the privilege to your president Trump to to tell you the news.
But I declare the Swiss government right now is under control of the US military completely.
That's good.
And all of these people who were involved in worldwide with IOTA involved in finance,
patching, planning, orchestrating, propagating the COVID by military grade by
world- Hold on Pascal Nagotti, stay there.
Hold on.
All right.
Now I got to think this over during the break.
Now- In any time.
I have claimed that I've proven that your dad was the co-founder of the World Economic
Forum.
Right.
I have been, I was pretty excited aboutfounder of the World Economic Forum.
I was pretty excited about you as a whistleblower.
I built this up a little bit.
Now, as we're starting to have this conversation, you're telling me that Bill Gates is dead,
Klaus Schwab is dead, the World Health Organization is gone, and Trump has used the military to
take over martial law in Switzerland.
I'm going to need to do something about this because I
can't let I can't let this stand. Yeah. This is too much. Here's what I would say. I would
say as we're going out to break this is when Waylon Jennings voiceover should have been
like who knows how Alex is going to handle this when we get back. You know like that's
where it goes. Well one one you, option would be fake tech difficulty.
Great one.
Get off the line.
It's great option.
Another is to pretend you don't understand.
That's a bad option.
You're saying some things.
I follow some things I don't, but, but I want to drill down to this.
Finish the point you're making before we hit break.
I want to ask big picture.
How is it going for the new world order?
Because I see videos great, you know with 50 million views and
300,000 comments and like I can't find comments that are pro Bill Gates. I can't find stuff. No pro-claw swab
I mean do they realize that they launched this attack did all this inject everybody with poison and now it's blown with their face
I mean, this is crazy
Okay
Look, I'm here for a reason to tell you the truth.
I'm not talking nice about that bad things.
I repeat the Sergey Lavrov's word is a great foreign minister of Russia.
Look, very simple.
They are satanic.
The Vatican was closed Pope Francis is
Now we now we're done now we're done now we got to re up it switch it around tell me what isn't dead
That's what you got to do now. I know it's not dead. Hold on to that thought We will get to some people who are still alive. Okay
But yeah, so we've got a
lot of breaking news here.
I've got a lot of breaking news.
I will say that I admire Alex's, I believe whenever I would play, when I was bad at sports,
they'd call it like stick-to-it-iveness.
Sure.
You know, that sort of like you're focused. Alex is still trying to make this work. How
are the globalists doing?
How are they doing? Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab?
No one likes them now. I've already heard you say that they're both dead
That's I mean if nobody likes them there, you know sooner or later you're gonna get there
He's still trying to hold on to this. Yeah, I think it maybe we can salvage some shit. I don't think so
No, and certainly not if this is kind of where things are past the breaking point.
So what is the master plan and what do you think the globalists are doing now?
Because everyone hates them.
No, they're finished.
Sorry?
They're done?
Your current president, my commander in chief, Donald J. Trump said it March 2023, people
should learn to listen to President Trump. He never lied. He always
pulled it through. And he said, I will totally obliterate the deep state. Those were his
words. Now he said that already after it was done. It's not visible yet. Elon Musk is gone.
Look at the dude. It's not Elon Musk anymore, isn't it? Look at Macron. This is not Macron. Look at the official pictures of the Alize.
It's not Macron anymore.
They're gone because the US military
and over 30 military forces without their leaders
are under the control and command of the United States.
And the US Space Force is the coordinating.
So you're saying this is like Hustav. You're saying there's been a coup against the Gualus?
No, no, no.
Excuse me.
How many fighter jets did Klaus Schwab command or some Elon Musk or some Bezos?
How many warships?
Come on.
None.
I get it.
No.
They're finished.
They're finished.
Now, so here's where this becomes a problem for Alex.
And obviously, we're going to have to have some pushback.
We can we can have pretending to not understand that Klaus Schwab is dead and all this.
Alex is an old hat at that, pretending that Steve Puchenik didn't say
complete nonsense that he said.
But if the globalists are gone, Alex's raison d'etre is gone.
But if the globalists are gone Alex's raison d'etre is gone Yep, there is nothing here if the globalists have secretly been taken care of yeah, this is like
Pre-trib rapture for him. He cannot handle this it cannot stand so if the globalists are taken care of go fuck yourself man
We're gonna have to deal with this. I can no longer ignore it. I think here's what's funny
But this is not Q stuff. This is absolutely not I would never I would never indulge in some insanity like you right right?
Here's what I think I
imagine
How difficult it must be to say Trump never lied?
Right. I'm sure it has to be like you even his fans like that none of them actually believe
He'd never lied like part of the appeal is he's good at lying right? He can lie through
The other liars he's lies as good as them and better, but doesn't lie to us like he's that he's our liar
Yeah, I know. I don't understand a guy who's like he never lied
Well, that's great
Not a lie if there's a larger meaning to the lie
So you can tell yourself that and that way lies are part of an honest strategy or something like that. That could work dangerous words
Yeah, but I also think that doing this on Alex's show is dangerous
Yeah, and we finally see in this next clip Alex decide alright. I got pushed back a little bit here
What do you make of Elon Musk? He's certainly turned against the globalist. He thinks they're done.
No, that's not Elon Musk anymore.
It's not Elon Musk.
He's gone.
Elon Musk is fake news.
Elon Musk told people we go to Mars.
People, please think.
Did you see that rocket ship, that piece of metal
with traditional so-called rocket fuel you
want to go on a seven month voyage you want to go through the Allen belt which
is four thousand metal melts a thousand two hundred thousand four hundred it's
all fake news the moon landing was fake we know it now president Kennedy got
wind that they were lying to him and President Kennedy is alive.
He's actually alive and JFK Jr. is alive too. He's the best friend of our current wartime president.
The system was rigged hundreds of years already. NASA in Hebrew means to deceive.
What? That's all there.
You guys had a solar eclipse, Alex.
Everybody saw it, right?
In Dallas there was the shadow.
Pascal Najati, I gotta say this.
Your dad was a founding member.
We looked it up.
You made these amazing informative videos.
But you are now saying stuff that I mean,
I just, well, we don't have the evidence of.
What evidence? Sorry, the war is on on you go to congressional website, please?
Yeah, I got evidence. I got things on dot-gov websites, buddy. Yeah, okay
Alex asking for evidence is gonna be a really slippery game
But he has had enough you can tell at this point JFK is still alive
I'm out fuck off. Yeah
JFK is still alive. I'm out. I'm out. Fuck off. Yeah
Listen at the very least JFK is dead for sure in all of our cosmologies Well, no, cuz everyone else Bill Gates class Rob all of them dead. Okay, so I'm fine with them being dead
I'm even fine with JFK jr. Being alive, but seriously we all have to find a bottom somewhere
JFK is dead. Nope. Yes
So Hillary what it's fine fine actually you know what that's my response to all Hillary things fine. She's gone good
Has been killed and as a fake it's gone, but look at the photos people
Please and is a fake. It's gone. But look at the photos, people.
Please, look at the photos of the dude.
It's not Elon Musk anymore.
It's not.
It's not.
Where's Hillary Clinton?
She's gone.
I just published, she's gone.
I even published the execution shot in Guantanamo Bay.
She's gone.
It was executed from the 11th.
Oh, you have a photo of her being executed.
Yeah. It's in my video. It's coming out tonight on rumble. I have all the photos of the people executed Obama Clinton Joe Biden. They were traitors Clinton. Okay, here's the deal for you. Alex. Yeah. 2016. We have an election. And Hillary Clinton, the Clintons wanted to steal it with the deep state. They
wanted to kill us earlier with Kobe, by the way. But thanks to Julian Assange and Vicky
Leakes and the U.S. military intelligence and General Flynn and special operations,
they were able to make a counter coup against Hillary Clinton and catch her. They caught
her red handed and President Trump said it.
We caught them all red-handed.
Obama knew it.
Clinton knew it.
Joe Biden knew it.
No, no, I agree with you.
The globalist power structure is falling.
You can see that everywhere.
I didn't get another globalist.
They're gone.
They're gone.
But, but, but, but, but.
Klaus Schwab is gone.
He's executed.
Gone.
Our Delta forces took him out with the Swiss military coordination.
The Swiss, the Swiss military coordinated the Swiss the Swiss
Territory is under full control of the United States military right now as we speak love it
and the pubs dead too
Easter address
Poor Alex oh my God
Sir my name is Alex Jones, and you have lost your mind sir I fucked up the Pope stood to uh I'd I'd I have this
booking every single part of this was a mistake man Man, you know, again, sometimes there's just a gift of clarity. Hitler equals
bad. Simple. This guy, everything I've ever done is wrong because it led me to this guy.
Right? Like this is work backwards. It's quite a snapshot. Yeah. I've got to imagine that
Marjorie Taylor Greene is thrilled that she was on this episode too. I forgot. We've left her so far back in the, the moon landing was faked.
So Alex brings up an important question.
Yes.
And that is...
The Pope's dead?
Well, that was an important question, but the secondary important question is, if the
globalists are all gone, why is, why am I still getting shit on?
Totally.
Why am I still persecuted?
And Pascal's answer is is you're not.
So all I know is I'm still being persecuted by the deep state right now. What is that?
Why are you from who? Oh my God. I mean, it's just like, I mean, it's constant nonstop trying
to shut us down. No, no, no. What you tell these people, it's very simple, Alex, you inform them that they are
under the US law of war manual 2015 updated July 23.
And you tell them that they are under title 50 USC 2381 influencing or meddling with local
journalists, American.
What about US code title 50,
chapter 32, subsection 500?
US code title 50, chapter 32, subsection 500,
I can't remember the exact code number.
You know about the code US title,
where it deals with secret testing on humans?
Oh man, he was, he's very jealous
that Pascal was saying numbers that he knew.
And so he tried three times to say his favorite subsection.
Oh God, it's brutal.
I, I, I mean, okay.
It never occurred to, in my imagination, this never happened, but now I'm seeing it.
Okay.
I imagine, uh, Luke and, uh, uh, Darth Vader facing off, holding their lightsabers, click the BZH and then limp wet
noodles pop out and then they kind of like wave them back and forth.
That is the section C-51 combat.
But here's the thing, like that subsection that Alex is trying to come up with is a non-sequitur.
It is legitimately just,
hey, this guy's saying fucking subsections,
I'm gonna too.
That's what I'm saying.
It's a lightsaber battle
between words that don't mean anything.
Yes.
But man, do I love the moment of,
why am I still being persecuted
if the globalists are gone?
You're not, you're not,
you're not quick complaining.
I do, I love a good quick complaining.
Yeah.
This is, it's very, it's almost refreshing
to see somebody truly hit a brick wall
who thought that brick walls didn't exist.
Because we've-
Well, they usually don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm so used to this.
Well, usually a lot of people who Alex ends up talking to
are playing games and they're playing the same game as him
and he's very able to
Influence the direction that things go but sometimes he runs into somebody who's playing a different game completely different game
This is a different game. Yeah, yay was playing a different game. Just a different game. It's just it's the same thing
You're not gonna be able to influence this guy. No, cuz JFK is still fucking alive. Exactly. You know that
As it and you say president Kennedy is still alive? He is alive. He is Q. Q is real. It's not
conspiracy. How old? Guys, look at the birthday and a JFK.
You got his back broken in World War II. There's not a lot of World War II vets left. I don't
think, I disagree with that. I don't need you to agree with me. It's non it's non-negotiable. It's not a ghost and
JFK jr. Hillary tried to kill him. Yes, it's true. They're all they're all alive. Well,
life well and kicking. All right. And what's coming next will shock the people. You'll
see. So JFK would be 99 right now. You're saying JFK is alive?
Excuse me. My father-in-law, my fiance's father just passed away at 101 and he was drinking
champagne on his birthday.
And he was running... Okay, if he's Q, JFK, President JFK is running major operations
at 99 years old.
No, no, no. No, You've got this son, brilliant man.
He's about my age, a bit older, maybe one or two years.
Yeah.
What are you stupid?
Come on, man.
Of course JFK is still alive and in charge, but he lets his son do the busy work.
You idiot.
Come on.
Jesus Christ.
Do I have to do everything for you?
Think it through before you talk.
Alex, This is embarrassing
You have no more apt words to say yeah, this is a mess yep
so Alex asks a very logical question and that is
Are you doing performance art?
Are you fucking with me? Are you fucking with me? Are you fucking with me?
Basically. Stop fucking with me.
Pascal, Njati, I really, really, really appreciate you coming on here.
I'd like to say one thing.
You can say whatever you want. You can say whatever you want.
I'm asking a question. You come off as really believing what you're saying.
Is this performance art or is this credit things or you really...
Because the poison shot's real, but now you're off in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus area.
No, no, no, no, no. Excuse me, no.
That would be an insult to all all brave men and women my comrades not in
the US military but of 33 or 34 we don't know exactly military organizations that
are fighting for your and our liberty right now okay yeah Alex is
disrespecting disrespect the 30 to 34 troops we have no way of knowing how
many organizations but it's all secret and so so yeah, this is a, he's serious.
I wonder.
Maybe.
I wonder.
Is he happy?
Who?
This dude.
Is he doing great?
Is he having a good life?
Maybe.
I mean, maybe he is.
You know?
Like, cause here's-
If his backstory of being like a fairly successful banker is true, then he's probably comfortable.
Right, right.
Like, you know, like there's a part of me that's, that's like whenever you're this guy,
you know, whenever you're, when you're throwing JFK still alive, right?
You know, I stopped thinking about people engaging in our reality and I started thinking
about like, uncontacted tribes.
Do you know what I mean? Like, they believe all kinds of shit, right? And they have no
idea and you're not going to give them a phone?
Well, I think a lot of anxiety comes from uncertainty.
Sure.
And when you have just decided certainty around everything.
100% certain.
I think that it would have an impact in making you probably a little bit more comfortable generally
Yeah, so I could see him being pretty happy
I mean, you know like I'm not saying that this is a model that we should like certainly not you know
No, no, no, of course not
But I am saying that in the competition between these two specifically I would rather be this guy than Alex
He see he does seem happier than Alex. Right?
I mean, as long as there's no, like, it has to be one or the other. No, it's a false choice.
Okay, don't make me choose.
Yeah, no, you don't have to choose one of these two.
Oh, thank God.
So Hillary is gone.
Yes.
But you might notice that she's been going around giving speeches.
I have noticed that.
She even tweeted something that was very stupid.
Ha ha ha.
Little do you know, there's clones.
Ah. did something that was very stupid. Ha ha ha. Little do you know, there's clones. Ah, get me Clinton online and then I, it can have whatever you want from me. She doesn't
exist anymore. Gone. I mean, she's been at universities giving speeches. There's doubles.
We spend a billion dollars on clones, man. Yes. Okay. Technology. Yeah. That's not very clean.
Well, I'll say this, Joe Biden doesn't look like Joe Biden.
Joe Biden, his name is mostly Arthur Roberts.
I don't know where I'm going under.
I'm sleeping, oh yeah.
Are we doing bits?
Dude.
Are we doing bits?
I guess.
I don't know.
It seems strange for Alex to play into his thing. Like, hey, man,
we spent a billion dollars on clones, dude. Yeah, Joe Biden doesn't look like him. Doesn't
look like Joe Biden.
That is that is a that's like a tick or an instinct. I don't know what that is. I guess
he had but he has to do that. Like if there's something like that, he's like, oh, also Biden
zoo cloned like he just does it. And I like the proof that Hillary Clinton doesn't exist
anymore is that you can't get her on the phone done great duh so if I if I have
never been able to get her on the phone she's never existed I might posit that
that is not good evidence for me so So look, she's a clone. Everybody's a clone.
Sure.
Except JFK, he's alive.
I'm sorry, why can't you be a clone?
This interview didn't go great.
Why can't JFK Jr. be a clone of JFK?
Maybe he is, we don't know actually.
This is something for the next interview.
Can they, see now this is where,
see this is the shit though.
Once you throw in clones,
now we're talking artificial aging.
You're telling me that we can accelerate
the growth of the clone so she looks like
she's however old she is now,
but the clone itself is only 20 years old.
We haven't had technology for that long, man.
Dolly the sheep has only been around for so long.
We don't have the technology to artificially age clones.
Has she always been a clone?
How long have we had cloning technology since the 1920s?
Is JFK still alive?
We've had cloning forever.
Okay.
And they're not artificially aged.
They just knew when Hillary Clinton was born
because of psychics that she was gonna be important.
So they made two of her.
They made an extra.
Yeah, there's so many people.
Come on, man.
Think it through.
You're embarrassing yourself like Alex.
You're right, you're right, you're right.
You're right.
So this interview wasn't good. It didn't go great.
No, it kind of fell apart.
Seemed like a great idea to talk to the guy whose dad co-founded the WEF.
I understand why that would be irresistible.
Totally.
But he gets a bad review from Alex at the end here. God's hand is guiding us.
It's guided me to the truth.
And the new world only has room for truth.
We are done with bullshit.
We're done with the lies from governments.
That's all I can say.
You're the safest country on the world right now.
United States of America.
Thank you, thank you.
I appreciate it.
Take care.
Thank you.
Okay, I'm gonna give people my approximation. It's only my opinion.
The world is gone completely insane. And people cannot handle the incredible
bio weapon attack we've been under. And you've got people loving Hitler. And
we've got people completely believing that the deep states been defeated. And
I don't think that guy came off like a con artist is completely out of his mind I do appreciate this is the
very first time I think where I can give an unqualified, I agree, Alex, shit is nuts
out there.
The world has gone mad.
Yup.
I don't know of any other time that I've heard an interview with Alex and with him being
like, that dude was nuts.
That dude's nuts.
I don't know what to tell you.
That dude's nuts.
And I think he could have gotten away with everything except for his worldview removing the threat of the globalist
Yeah, I think that that's really the bridge that's too far
I don't probably would have him back if he was just like all of these people are dead
Secretly, but they're there the globalists have told you that they're so you think that they probably get away with clones
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not your listen
You're you're right. You should be mad at Klaus Schwab.
Klaus Schwab is dead though.
The person who's doing Klaus Schwab's job is this person now.
It's the job that's the same, just that Schwab is dead.
The people who are above him are not dead and they are the ones you need to be worried
about.
Exactly, exactly.
Once you've gotten rid of the conspiracy, that's the whole thing.
Yeah. need to be worried about. Once you've gotten rid of the conspiracy, that's the whole thing. Yeah, once the threat that sort of animates
and motivates you to believe Alex's dumb shit is gone,
then we can't do anything here.
You're not somebody who I will ever talk to again.
I regret saying that I proved that your dad
founded the WEF.
It was a bad move.
But whatever.
So Alex has to try and spin this how well I think he does a
Now I was gonna say a decent job. He doesn't
That's he guess I think hey get this guy on get that person on we don't you know
Do you just vetting I check in the yard?
But I noticed that guys never talk like that that I've seen for years
He comes on my show, and then he just slits his wrist on air
If he is doing it on purpose, he is an incredible actor. I know that came off as pure mental illness.
And who can blame somebody cracking up in a trench?
God is the answer to all this.
That's why they say there is no atheist in a foxhole.
Well, there's not a lot of sane people in a foxhole either
That's not a chance quote
Insanity lives in foxholes. That's an Alex Jones quote
Just to be clear
In response to this man saying this clearly dead guy is still alive. I'm gonna talk about God. Mm-hmm
So Alex I think it's trying to imply that Pascal was a false flag
Yes He says a bunch of really good stuff for Alex like like the anti-WEF stuff and the COVID conspiracies,
but then he injects all the globalists are dead thing to discredit the message.
But he wasn't saying all that wacky stuff before, so he must just be saying this as
an attempt to blow things up in Alex's face.
In reality, Pascal's been saying this stuff pretty regularly for a while, and Alex just
does zero vetting of his guests.
His dad wasn't a co-founder of the WEF, and if Alex had taken one look on this dude's
Rumble channel, he would have seen videos with titles like The Storm is Upon Us, or
quote, fact, traitor, former VP under Trader Obama, the real Joe Biden has been executed
for treason and COVID Psy-OP, buried January 20th, 2021.
That was from like a month ago, so this shouldn't be a surprise.
But the idea of interviewing the son of the co-founder of the WEF, who has some shit to
talk about Klaus Schwab, is just too irresistible for Alex.
And it got him into this situation where he's interviewing someone who even he has to admit
is out of his mind.
And that can't be Alex's fault for not looking into his guests,
because if that's the reality,
it tends to call into question,
how well he's asked any of the people
that come on his show and say insane things,
and then the whole house of cards falls apart
and you realize all of these very prestigious doctors
and lieutenant colonels and section chiefs
maybe are the same kind of
Credibility. Yeah. Yep, because once you once you
Truly entertain the idea that this guy said something that's so crazy. It cannot possibly be true
Like once you've created that hard and fast here is a rule Mm-hmm, then you have to start applying that backwards and that's bad for
everybody not not if the person was saying it as an attack right right right then then
you're just you got caught up in a psyop yeah it's probably a psyop yeah otherwise it's
otherwise you're like oh well if this person is demonstrably literally lying to me or is just crazy
Who else and you can't have that thought no it does it like I said it starts to unravel things a little bit
Yeah, that's that's where we where we take our exit
I'd say a mess. You know it's a it's it's a strange day at the office for Alex
Do you know what's what's kind of funny is that immediately after Alex said JFK was 99, I was like, my
grandfather died at 101 and then his dad died at 101.
And I did, it's just like, man.
I also think Alex's math is off.
JFK would be older than that.
But regardless.
I mean, it's just like just like Alex you have done the
absolute wrongest way of approaching the idea of somebody telling you JFK is still
alive being like he would be 99 no oh my god well I think that is a okay maybe
maybe the he's 99 isn't the isn't the end all be all but like he had a bad back from World War two
Hey, it's right right right?
Maybe a little bit more it helps you put into perspective. I get it. I was in bad health when he was alive alive
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Famously he was unable to fuck good cuz his back hurt so bad, but maybe that was a sigh
Oh, no, that should be a sign the trick us into thinking that He's dead. He's actually so planning great back in the 60s
Who makes sense so uh yeah, I don't know I don't know what to say
Just a total mess of an episode
I don't think he did a great deep dive on Hitler
I think this booking was a disaster, but amusing. At least it was amusing. And
I do think that's always kind of, I mean this is the faintest fucking praise in the world.
And I know it's cynically calculated on Alex's part, but at least he doesn't put up with
this. At least there is like something that is like, nah, you're talking bullshit here.
It does feel like Alex in some way agrees with me that at the end of the floor is JFK's
fucking dead, okay?
I don't care who you think did it.
Somebody did it, could have been, it doesn't matter, but he is fucking dead, okay?
Is this the...
That's the floor.
That's the reality that we must anchor everything to. All of us, yes to yes everyone needs to so if you believe the JFK is alive everything's wrong then okay
But if but as long as JFK is dead we've created a kernel of shared reality
Yes, I think that I think that actually might be a good place to start JFK is fucking dead everyone spread the word I
Think we need a little more than that, but for now it may be as best as we're gonna get
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