Last Podcast On The Left - Transmedium - Fast Movers & USOs: An Interview with Darcy Weir
Episode Date: May 1, 2024Henry & Eddie sit down with Investigative Journalist, Documentarian, and UFOlogist Darcy Weir - to discuss his new film "Transmedium: Fast Movers and USOs", the many slices of the UFO phenomenon, and... decyphering fact from fiction in the ever-expanding world of UFOology.Rent or Buy "Transmedium: Fast Movers and USOs" today!
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Hi, I'm Henry Zabrowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson.
Hello, how are you doing, buddy?
I'm doing good.
Big day for you today.
I am very excited about talking to this gentleman
who's an expert.
Well, he's a jack of every single UFO trade,
which again makes him my favorite person,
but also probably like, you know, you got to get him in there.
He's ready to talk about aliens. He's going to take over Thanksgiving. That's for certain.
I would love to be at Thanksgiving with you. This is the director, investigative journalist,
and the documentarian, you just made the brand new documentary, Transmedium,
Fast Movers and USOs talking all about our submerged friends
that are harassing the US Navy.
Everybody, this is Darcy Weir.
Thank you so much for being here, man.
Thanks for the intro, Henry.
Ed, nice to meet you guys.
Good to meet you too, Mr. Weir.
Good ginger beard, man.
Yeah, it's getting a little bit of white in it, but you know.
Embrace it.
It makes sense
with the UFO territory, man. You learn some things and you get a few white hairs. It's
like being president ever since I started to get mine. I feel like people take me this
much more seriously. So keep them. I mean, it helps if somebody takes you seriously.
So maybe I'll just die the whole thing white. Dude! Go full, full, bleached!
Maybe I'll take after my grandmother and do like a pearl head dye and then you know go white on the beard.
Man and then that's like it fits, documentarian.
Call me Q-tip.
Yeah, you mean my bro Q-tip? He knows everything about US usos dog. I mean like yes, and he can't rap
Hey, this never stopped anybody before yeah, that's true
So I do even try to approach what you cover within the world of youth ology
We it's all of it you you pretty much run the gamut of the entire phenomena
Within your series because like you also run to see, you directed a series called Beyond the Spectrum, which
is great.
That covers a lot of stuff just within that little umbrella sphere.
Yeah, kind of like re-released it in a bunch of separate docs because I had originally
dealt with a distributor, a film distributor, and then kind of left them
and relaunched a lot of these documentary ideas
in terms of, I guess, like different slices
of the UFO phenomenon.
And the original Beyond the Spectrum stuff,
you can't really see anymore.
It's been taken down, but it-
Yeah, I went looking for it.
It started with the idea of things existing in our reality
that were beyond our visual and our mental spectrum, right?
So the human eye can see between really far
in the red spectrum of the color of light called infrared.
As soon as you go into infrared, you stop seeing that end of the spectrum.
And then into the very other opposite of the color spectrum is like purple, and beyond
that is ultraviolet.
And we're basically dealing in wavelengths that the human eye can't pick up.
And it seems that different UFO hunters throughout history have been using cameras that access
that light spectrum infrared, and they can usually pick up these UFOs. And then NASA,
for example, they created a camera called the FarLight Ultraviolet camera, which they nicknamed
a GlowCam. And they took that into their space shuttle missions, like the STS missions that were arming the,
well, building the International Space Station.
And when they used, whenever they turned on the glow cam
and they were outside the Earth's atmosphere,
they were seeing so much stuff.
And I documented a lot of that sort of UFO activity
that was happening outside our atmosphere
that NASA was capturing on their state of the art cameras capturing a light spectrum
the human eye can't even see in.
And they were tracking them and some of these video clips that I've put together in this
documentary series, you can see them like literally focusing in
and following UFOs,
but that behavior seemed to sort of change over the years.
Is that the type of stuff that looks like donuts?
They have those like weird things that look like donuts
that kind of go in and out that look like that.
We, for some reason, we can't see them,
but they're literally beyond the spectrum of our site.
Yeah, I mean, you're probably thinking of one of the most famous UFO videos is called
STS-75. And it's the space shuttle mission where they launched this giant tether that
was supposed to, it had this like globe on the end of the tether and they were going to suspend it in open
space and when they activated it, it was supposed to try and pick up electricity that was innate,
that was just naturally in the void of space.
And the moment they turned it on, so much electricity shot through it that it shorted
out the tethers.
Basically had like a breaker box at the base of it connected to the space station just
in case there was too much electricity that came through it.
So it didn't fry the whole space station. And the tether blew up and disconnected and
then basically flew off into space. So the rest of that mission that they were recording
this video, they're tracking the space tether in the middle of space. And you see all these
like sort of, for a lack of a better word, space donuts flying
around the tether in the ultraviolet light spectrum. It looks like black and white footage.
Yeah, it's weird as hell.
Yeah. And, you know, a guy named David Serreta became pretty famous for breaking down that footage. Another guy, a fellow Canadian who was kind of stocking
NASA's space camera footage, his name's Martin Stubbs.
I met him, I interviewed him for my documentary series
called Secret Space UFOs.
And-
Yeah, cause you have a whole world on the secret space program as well,
which is kind of like the idea that there is a separate entity
within either like either outside of NASA or within NASA or within
what we now call the Space Force, whatever that's going to be.
That right. Like, isn't the idea that they are operating
and doing things outside of our awareness?
Yeah, I think what people don't realize is that NASA was extricably linked with
The Air Force since its inception. I mean it started as NACA in
1958 the Air Force launched NACA and then a year later in 1959
It became NASA the National Aeronautics
Space Administration, right? Yes.
And because of their link to the Air Force, they follow the same classification protocols
with safeguarding data from the public. Because, look, this is the tip of the spear in terms of science.
They are the military's best nerds.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
Yes.
And when these nerds-
Used to be Germany's best nerds.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, originally it really was a lot of Germany's Nazi nerds, if you want to call
them that from logic paperclip days, they were bringing them over post World War II.
Wernher von Braun, who was the head of the two rocket program that was trying to bomb
London with rockets.
He ends up getting absorbed into NASA
and was the person responsible for putting us on the moon.
I mean, it was his advanced rocket program within NASA
that allowed us to take off from earth
and send men in a capsule around the moon
for the first time, right?
We haven't been back since, apparently.
So yeah, I guess like that whole series, Secret Space UFOs, I made five different documentaries
in that.
It just spans from the very beginning of NASA's inception with the X-15 missions, going through to the Mercury program, Gemini, which was called the Bridge
to the Moon. They were testing out how to do missions in space, in cislunar space, orbiting
around the Moon, perfecting that, doing extra vehicular activities. And then finally, the Apollo manned missions
where they're actually going to the moon,
they're landing on the moon.
And, you know, I've spoken to all these interesting guys
that state, well, the moon has ancient technology there.
And that's why the Americans wanted to get there first
because they wanted to maybe seize or
capture some of this alien stuff that they were finding on earlier missions, like structures
that looked like they were created by some kind of intelligence before us.
So yeah, there's a whole mystery to space and NASA has to, I think, play dumb and pretend that,
A, there's nothing to see out there except for prosaic things like asteroids, comets, and
natural space weather phenomenon and then, you know, dead planets and no intelligent life, right? Whereas I think I'm convinced that they found signs of other life out there.
They've probably found ancient megalithic structures sometimes on the moon. And I think they've also been part of the UFO cover-up
on earth whenever certain events have taken place.
NASA has been asked by the public as an authority in science.
Never a straight answer.
And they give a, yeah, they give us,
they give an answer that doesn't seem to even be
scientific.
It seems to be like a cover up.
It seems to be like a cover story.
And they did the very same thing.
You know, I started off my documentary transmedium with NASA's UAP conference where they took
the time to debunk the go fast UFO.
Yes.
They called it a radar artifact.
Right.
Yeah.
They said the object was traveling no more than like 40 miles per hour, although other
scientists have done same like basically trajectory and you know, all this different science considering the FLIR technology and the type
of craft that was tracking it and said, no, this has to be going over 100 miles per hour.
Regardless, we don't have any drones that are spherical.
We don't have traditional flight surfaces without wings. In other words, we don't have something that can fly spherically
against the wind at even 40 miles per hour in the middle of the ocean where we're carrying
out these flight exercises in guarded, sensitive military restricted areas.
Oh yeah. And there's a lot to unpack here, too. There's a lot to unpack because
because yeah, that's even faster than our submarines where it's like they literally go. That's the peak
of our like our underwater technology goes like 40 knots. But should most if it does exist,
which it seems like these things do exist, why would NASA tell us? Like, shouldn't they? Shouldn't
they? If they do work for our country, shouldn't they be keeping it a secret? Other countries don't know. I'm kind of on the other
side being like, I feel like if NASA has all these secrets, talk about a way to become the most funded
government program is to being like, you got to go through the, to get to the aliens, you got to
go through us. You got to give us a lot of money to develop a welcome center for the Palladiums. It's funny because like that is the argument that Seth Shostak uses. Right. And I interviewed Seth
Shostak in his home for the secret space UFO series I did before. And he said like, why wouldn't NASA
admit this? Right. If NASA admitted this, then they could get all this funding from the
government and the whole world could get behind them and we could get to the bottom of the alien
existence in our own space, in our own atmosphere or outside our Earth's atmosphere, right?
But the thing is, right, it's just like what Ed just said, right? I think it's a complicated
game because if you listen to whistleblowers or
the testimony of credible people that have been studying this phenomenon, like Richard
Dolan, for decades now, the cover-up, it would serve two primary missions, right? One would
be to facilitate that we do not have anything exotic, that we are only using
technology that is fossil fuel based and therefore making sure that our adversaries think that
we're weaker than we are.
If you believe that like this guy, David Grush forward right? Yeah. He said there are
special access programs that exist. He's interviewed many witnesses that are part
of them. They're not really great works environments to work under. These
people sign non-disclosure agreements that are binding for life and they
didn't necessarily even know it was going to be like that until
they got into the program and then they're kind of like trapped.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
So you got guys like this coming forward and they're saying, yes, we have crash retrieval
programs and we have for decades, like since the Pope was running the planet in the 1930s.
And essentially the coverup facilitates making sure
that any of that technology that we have been
reverse engineering and we have been perfecting is ours.
And that technology is protected
from our adversaries knowledge, right?
Because according to a lot of the UFO lore, America is kind of the,
we have a lot of that technology more so than China or
Russia.
According to, yeah,
people like David Grush and many others that have spoken before him. Right.
Um, but what people will, you know, if they listen to his recent
disclosures, he's been saying that in the 1930s, for example, well before the fabled Roswell
incident that happened in the 1940s, there was a UFO that crashed in Italy and Mussolini scrambled his forces to recover the craft. The Vatican then
took it and they held it until they handed it over to the Americans because it is widely known
at this point that the American military industrial complex are the best in the world at taking on
projects like this.
Cause we got the money.
We got the money, baby.
Look at that military budget every year.
It's like almost a trillion dollars.
Okay.
It's crazy.
It's fantasy money.
It's not even, we're at a point where you're just like making up a number and
they're just, they could just get that.
They just make the money for them to have.
Yeah, it's like make it happen. And they make it happen.
They probably are trying to reverse engineer some of this stuff that they've caught.
But, you know, you listen to guys like Bob Lazar.
He's a really interesting person who's whistleblown on his experience with a supposed reverse engineering
program.
Some people say, oh, I don't believe them.
But in the end, I think he definitely experienced something.
It's a possibility that some of the information that was presented to him was false in order to use some form of counterintelligence just
in case their personnel leaked this in the future.
But I think he still went through something trying to analyze an exotic craps propulsion
system.
And it's like that was the 80s, but even then, we've got AI and all kinds of technological
advancements now that can help us discern what this stuff really is.
I think disclosure may come with the help of AI in some way.
Can I ask that where is our hard disclosure?
Like, I know that we've been threatening.
Grush has been saying that there's good.
Well, I guess the term now is catastrophic disclosure.
Yeah.
That they use the idea of it's all just going to come out.
Like, I, because, you know, we've all been the UFO world for a long time.
We've been hearing about this disclosure that's common.
They're like, it's got, it's garbage right around the corner.
And we haven't got it yet because obviously it seems like, uh,
we had a hard time with a novel virus.
I don't know if we're going to have a really good time with aliens or like
wrap up your head.
No, I don't think we will. And I think a really good time with aliens or like wrap up. Yeah, no, I don't think we will.
And I think we'll have a hard time with the next pandemic because people just are.
It's like we're at an all time mistrust with our government.
If you look at the history of this phenomenon, you know, things happened in 1947 where the Air Force came
forward and said, we recovered a crashed flying saucer. The next day they republished the story
saying, Oh no, it was just a weather balloon. Yeah. Fucking assholes weather balloon my
ass. Yeah. That's a racist term in ufology. Right. Exactly. But that racial slur was widely accepted back in the day because
people believed their government, believed people were, you know, everybody was a countryman, right?
Now we can't agree on anything. And it's really like a super divided Western world. You've got
the United States divided, you've got the United States divided, you've got the Canadian
public divided, you've got the British public divided. It's actually kind of perfect for our
adversaries to infiltrate our social media and turn the screws to us psychologically, right?
But with this subject in terms of where we're at with disclosure, I think catastrophic disclosure is a little bit dangerous. Yes
I don't think it's the right way to go
I think it really does need to be a drip feed and I think that drip feed really did start in
2017 I mean I was working on these docs the first documentary ever made
Was made for YouTube back in 2012.
How did you even get it?
Like, how did this, you get this UFO bug?
How did you get the, the, the ufology virus?
Yeah, the mind virus.
Well, I came out, I came out of the box ready for UFOs as a, as a child.
I was ready to go.
I mean, look, I, I loved, loved, I think our science fiction has been laced
with the notions that we're not alone for a long time, right? I mean, whether you're watching
something like Star Trek or you're watching something like X-Files, it's just like an open
sort of secret within our entertainment, but within fiction entertainment. But I mean, in 2009,
I was starting to build my very first documentary. I heard about this guy when I graduated university.
I heard about this guy, Phil Schneider, who's talking about like, you know, helping build these deep underground military bases.
And in the midst of his construction efforts, doing some geological surveys out at the Dulce,
New Mexico area where that old Archuleta Mesa, the Dulce Archuleta Mesa is located.
He came into a cavern that had these like evil aliens and they started a firefight and
he got blown open.
And he had a Walter PPK with a nine shot modified clip.
And he, I went in there and I'll show you the scars.
And then when he does that thing, where it's like, it kind of felt like what Bob Seeger
does against the wind on when he when he shows the scars everyone's
Just like yeah, I knew he'd do it
He's like this is my hand
Yeah, I know it's like oh shit aliens fucking blues. Yeah, we're like oh my god those aliens flayed our men, but um
But like you know he's fascinating though
We wanted to cover him honestly on the show, but his story is extremely tragic.
Like, Phil Schneider's story is very, very sad.
It's a scary story because in my opinion, there was some truth to what he was saying,
but obviously he beefed it up with this sort of like James Bond slash Rambo character that he created for himself
at these UFO conferences back
in the day. And look like these UFO conferences are still going on today. He started, he started
to be, we're going to be out one. We're going to be a contact in the desert. Yeah. We're
going to be, we're going to be living it up with pistachios in our hands at the best UFO
conference.
I fucking can't wait. Honestly,, it's gonna be a blast.
But you know, Phil started this interesting war and you know, he really that war.
Would you say that the Dulce Bay story was kind of, it basically was discovered by Phil
Schneider in terms of like, that's what put it into the lexicon?
Like the Dulce Wars and. You got to understand that even the, uh, the Manhattan project was being carried
out that out in that area, right?
The Los Alamos, um, the city of science that was created to build the original
nuclear bombs, that was all out that way before, you know, Dulse, New Mexico was just along
the way.
And there's rumors that there's, you know, an underground rail system that connects Los
Alamos to Dulse, New Mexico's supposed base.
I'm still like a firm believer that there's something under the Archuleta Mesa out there. Um, and you
know, there's, uh, look at the people that live there. They, they still talk about all
kinds of really creepy stuff that they see at night and people and like, um, you know,
you got the skinwalker lore out that way. You've also got UFOs that are being seen coming
over the Archuleta Mesa all the time.
It's a little city.
It is.
Yes.
Paul Benowitz, this famous guy that got duped by Richard Doty, he talked about the Dulce,
New Mexico Archuleta Mesa paranormal phenomenon until his demise.
So it's like, it's been something that's been pretty speculative,
but there seems to be something there.
And his story is tragic because he dies.
And you know, we just want to know,
was he onto something?
Was he suicide or did he really take his own life?
I mean, he- Well, because he wasn't he strangled by his own really take his own life? I mean,
he wasn't he strangled by his own oxygen cord?
Like he did.
Yeah.
Yeah. Which is grisly, right?
That's a horrible way to go.
And it does seem like a whack style.
You already have a catheter, you know, come on.
I'm the guy alone.
If you're getting choked,
but someone chokes you with your catheter,
they're mad at you.
Yeah.
That might be the fact. Yeah. That might be the case. And you know, I look, we were talking
about disclosure and I've spoken with Steve Bassett about this and Bassett, you know,
who also says disclosure is happening every day of every year now. But the big D disclosure
from the president never actually has happened.
Yeah.
We also, as said, you know, you can strangle yourself with your own catheter report if
you really want to.
And it's like, yeah, but there was just so many other things.
Like when I first started that documentary, you know, full circle here, you're asking
me how I got into this. I reached out to and I did my detective work and found
Cynthia Dreher, who was his late wife, who he had a child with, Marie. And she said,
you know, I believed everything he said. He warned us that he didn't want to kill himself and he was happy and he was
making progress with what he was talking about. And she, when the detectives, the Clackamas
County detectives came upon his body, there was blood on the floor. His head was faced down in his own wheelchair.
Not really a situation where you would, if you were trying to do it yourself, wouldn't
you lie yourself up in the bed, lace yourself with drugs and kind of set yourself up in
some way that when you fall asleep, you can't take your catheter
cord off your neck or whatever. But that wasn't the case. They found his face, face down in
his own wheelchair and his wheelchair was beside his bed. So it was a straight.
It's very suspicious.
It's suspicious, you know, it's a little bit different from just walking into an apartment, seeing somebody hanging. Then you're like, okay,
this person committed suicide. Um, so they did a better job with Epstein,
but he's in a wheelchair. He can't, they did a better job.
His neck real good. Um, yeah.
So you have these situations where it just doesn't add up and then she,
they got the coroner at the funeral home was
who found the catheter around his neck. The police did not because his neck was so swollen.
He was a bit overweight. That's when they started an investigation to see if there was foul play.
And his ex-wife, who was his friend, they shared a kid, she really launched an
investigation and wanted to find out what was going on here. So she reached out to the
detective in the Clackamas County that was assigned to this case. She wanted to see the
coroner report. She wanted to see his blood toxicology and urine samples to see if there
was drugs in there, to see if he had
really laced himself up.
They lost the blood and urine samples, which is strange again.
And then when his death was pronounced in the newspaper, it set up natural causes.
So it was very, just a whole bunch of weird stuff.
Um, and, um, you know, he could have just straight up been, he could have just straight up got
somebody angry about the idea of just even talking about the tunnels. Like it doesn't
have to be aliens. Like just talking about the nature of our underground bunker system,
which is apparently extremely extensive. Like, you know, like all of these giant boring companies,
literally what they're called, like these big big huge, like that's like a entire conspiracy theory is within the world of the guys, the
companies, the construction companies that build our super secret underground bases are
like, that's like where the secrets are.
Like that's actually where the secrets.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And those safes.
Do you worry about this? I mean you've made what?
Ten documentaries 20 20 20. Do you worry about this happening to you? Do you feel like you're being watched?
well, uh
you know, I released trans medium and
The week before I started speaking to people on shows like this, my main desktop that I do all my
editing and I'm like, you know, compiling all my video footage and graphics and visuals
and 3D effects and stuff was hacked.
I literally walked into my office, turned on this OLED TV screen I use for my editing, and the mouse was moving,
and they were inside my email
and going into my Google Drive.
It was like the creepiest thing I've ever walked into,
and I have a whole life prior to producing this stuff.
Yeah, yeah, you have another life.
You have an outside of UFO life.
Yeah, I worked in IT, you know?
Like I just worked for corporate head offices
and security is important when you're working
at these places and I never saw-
So you're saying that UFO documentaries
haven't made you a multi-millionaire.
Ha ha ha ha.
But I don't understand.
Oh man, I wish. Ha ha ha ha. I thought that this was my way in.
I thought that this was where the money was.
I tell you what, Henry, it is a stressful and a paranoid labor of love.
That's what it really is.
It's crazy.
The community itself, you know, you release something and 50% of the people are
attacking you and 50% of the people are like high five, you know, so it's,
we walk this walk as well. I know that.
It's not the greatest, but it's an interesting world. You know, it's like that, um, what if,
and, uh, fact is stranger than fiction sort of place to talk about ideas
and um, you know, the idea that our reality is really just manufactured and control.
So I find it fascinating. Oh yeah. Like, can I honestly like, and this is not like, uh,
this is not like a skeptics attack because I always, every day I change about what it is I actually believe.
Does all of this research, does it clear things up
or does it make things more hazy?
Like I'm both like, the more I read,
sometimes I wonder like,
cause I become like a Robert Anton Wilson style,
agnostic across the board where I'm like just fucking anything but bore me,
you know, like, you know, like, let's just have it be something fun, you know?
Yeah. Yeah. You know, like put some salt on my meal. Maybe sprinkle a little bit of big foot in
my life today. Yeah. Yeah. So look, I, um, I'm pretty agnostic at this point, too.
I don't have some allegiance to any certain person or sort of a spiritual belief.
I'm actually skeptical about spiritualism and all that stuff.
I would say that I'm more of like a science-minded person. I'd like to think
there's something physical to this phenomenon. But, um... Like, what's the thing you think that you
learned? Like, what is the all of this year's... What's like a thing that's like been elucidated
by all of this research? Well, look, if we get more testimony from people like David Grush,
more testimony from people like David Grush, I think that would elucidate the idea that what many people have been saying over the decades is true, that we are interacting with
a non-human intelligence on the planet, whether that's the War of the Worlds Orson Welles style ET, extraterrestrial, or just something that lives
in our oceans that's non-human.
And that's what the transmedium documentary is about.
It's like, what if there's something that's here?
And it has mastery of a domain, not only in our skies, and we've been talking about
that for many decades, seeing things UFOs flying around in our atmosphere, but maybe
the oceans, which is 71% of our planet.
Yeah.
And it's out of sight, out of sound, just like these underground bases would be, right? I think there's a lot of things that I
initially probably believed, but now I'm kind of like, you know, like, I probably believed that
Phil Schneider got into a firefight with aliens, but now I'm like, no.
Yeah, right.
I'm like, no. Yeah, right.
And I initially believed Billy Myers story,
but then you talk to guys like Mr. Horn and I'm like,
whoo, crazy.
Yeah.
It's a nice that you can still have crazy alarms.
Isn't that nice? After all of these years, you still be like, all right, you're crazy. Yeah. But look, men in black, right? That phenomenon of somebody showing
up to an experiencer's front door, whether that's them just seeing a UFO and taking pictures
of it somewhere over North America or people that have actually. Witnessed
extraterrestrial beings and
been harassed by men in black I
think that's a real phenomenon
and I think. What the men in
black are it is just. Many
different. Servicemen within our
intelligence or our security
agencies you've got- you know, your first line is Air Force OSI,
Office of Special Investigations.
They would probably be trying to cover up special craft,
high technology craft
that the United States Air Force is testing out.
Therefore they go out,
they convince you it's a UFO you looked at
Oh, we need those pictures. It's for national security. They confiscate your data
Michigan plea, right? Yeah, then you got guys like John Callahan who worked for the FAA, I think
and
He he was you know read into the whole JAL airlines, Japan Airlines incident over
Anchorage, Alaska, where an object the size of like, I don't know, two football fields
that look like a giant glowing sun in the try and evade these UFOs that were shooting lights into their cockpit.
Like it was extremely stressful, that thing that was all recorded by the FAA.
Guess who comes in to confiscate that and hold a special meeting with John Callahan and all the upper brass that were investigating that commercial flight incident, the CIA, right? So that's
a different layer of security that wants to control this subject. So you got the
FBI, you got the CIA, the FBI is like the old wink wink nudge nudge X-Files type people that are the G men.
Yeah, G men, right?
You know, you got the NSA, you've got all kinds of slices of security intelligence
that are trying to keep this subject under wraps.
So I think the men in black phenomenon is real.
It's just you know, and then when it gets into that sort of alien
men in black thing, the woo we woo men in black. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not saying
I discount that, but, um, I think there's just more credibility to, um, our intelligence
trying to control the narrative on this subject as much as they can. So the things I've learned are, A,
we probably have our own craft that we're testing out
that are, you know, spooky aircraft
that people might think are aliens.
And then we also probably have interacted
with the non-human intelligence to some degree,
and that's been covered up by, you know,
the information gatekeepers in the world.
Oh yeah, because all it takes is one,
remember Roger Clinton?
All he's gotta do is get in there
and destroy our relationship with the Grays
and we're all screwed.
You know what I mean?
Like they gotta be really, really careful
who they let in front of these NHIs.
Yeah, those NHIs.
Yeah, yeah. Some of them were good, some of them NHIs. Yeah, those NHIs. Yeah, yeah.
Some of them are good.
Some of them are bad.
I find that interesting.
I also like the idea of like if they are real, like who you can trust and who you can't.
Like once you're in that world of ufology, it is hard because like when you start being
like, well, I actually am a friend with a Nordic.
It's the reptilians you can't trust.
Then you're like, oh no, like are we in disinformation zone or are we, am I actually talking to
somebody who knows an alien? Yeah. Well, what if that reptilian is a vegan,
you know, just eats broccoli? Why? There's gotta be some
don't discriminate.
So, all right, I'm also, I'm new to all of this. So it's an honor to speak to you,
to be honest with you. But so telescopes are better than ever. We see everything. Obviously,
there's nothing in the Milky Way, but what are their planets out there that were like, that could
be where they're from. You know, is there any like suspects? Is there any worlds that we're looking at that like, oh, maybe they're coming from there
also or planets plural because who says that they all come from the same place?
Yeah.
And so it's like, what, what are people, what are ideas of that?
Because I'm dumbfounded.
I mean, there's been myths and fables of all sorts and kinds of origins for non-human intelligence in
the ufology history, right? You've got, not that I believe it at this point, but you've got the
fable Val Valiant Thor that it came from Mars. And if people, no, he came from Venus and if people know he came from Venus Venus purple he's a purple guy
and well the valiant Thor he left Venus because there was a change in government and then
he came to the he was working with the US government in our intelligence community he
was purple and incredibly soft hands he wore an invisible suit so he could breathe on Earth. Yeah, I'm talking galaxies away, you know.
So if you want to talk about like one of the major stories that people listen to in terms of
experiencers or abductees that have met a non-human intelligence. Betty and Barney Hill, they were abducted in the 1960s, and
they, that's an African American and white couple. So they claimed that their captors
came from Zeta reticuli. Now, the interesting thing about their story, which kind of blew the socks off of some of the researchers at
the time that looked into this, when Betty was just describing the star system that they
were from, these non-human intelligence, they stated that they come from a binary star system,
which at that time in the 1960s, we didn't even have the technology
in astronomy to identify that Zeta reticuli is actually Zeta reticuli A and Zeta reticuli
B, a binary star system.
So that's a really strange detail that came out of that incident in which science later confirmed, yes, there is a binary star
system there.
Wow.
Yeah.
And these.
That's just some weird ass stuff.
That's like true high strangeness.
Yeah.
I mean, that's like a point where you're kind of like, are they telling the truth?
Oh, my camera's acting up here, boys.
Oh, shit. That's fucking the top, man, my camera's acting up here, boys. Oh, here they come.
Oh, shit, that's fucking the top, man.
We're getting fucking shut down, man.
They heard me.
They heard me.
Don't let Bezos know, dude.
Damn.
All right, let's lower this light.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, yeah, you look good.
Honestly, you look good.
We're going from my DSLR to a webcam... I like this is how we all really are.
Yeah. So essentially, you know, that's...
And the interesting thing about their claim is they were one of the originals that said these beings had large oblong shaped heads. They had large black, not, they had almond shaped eyes that
were much larger than ours. But on top of that, the difference between their eyes and
what people always claim as seeing a gray is that they actually had like pupils. They weren't like the grays that have these big sort of
like lifeless looking black, like built in Ray-Ban eyes, you know what I mean?
For all we know they're sunglasses.
Well, also honestly, Eddie, that's what they do say. They do say that they have some kind
of biomechanical like suit or they are robots themselves, especially grace. Yeah, they might be artificial intelligence, you know, for all we know they could be us
in the future.
I always like, I think that story is compelling to the past.
Michael P masters makes that sort of argument, right?
That maybe this is us where we've evolved so far.
We want to come back and as like an anthropological
study once we create time machines, we want to see what was it to be human at this point
in time in history, and they're observing us.
And, you know, the cavemen that we are, we blow them out of the sky and then we start
observing them, right? we are, we blow them out of the sky and then we start observing that. But yeah, I think
you hear about stories like Zeta Reticuli being a destination that they're from. Sirius
is a star system that you hear about certain races being from. And I think that would have been the fabled Nordics, which I'm not even 100%
sure are real. But look, I've spoken to experiencers that state that they've spoken to human
looking aliens, like that they literally have had dialogue with something that's not from our planet,
but is human.
Yes.
And we just did the, we did the story of, what was it?
It was at radiation.
What was the name of that?
It was radar Harry.
It was like a ghost horse.
This guy was the tall whites where it was a guy was talking about Charles Hall.
Yes. Yes. When he was working out in the silos, and then he was meeting these tall...
They were like indoctrinating him, and like, he was like meeting with them and hanging out.
It was very interesting. I love those types of stories.
So, I lived in Australia at one point, and I interviewed when I was in Australia.
I was kind of following the Westall 66 beat.
I was really interested in their major mass witness sighting, which was during the day,
maybe one or two saucers touched down behind a school, behind a secondary and a primary school, like, you know, grade one to three
and high school in this area called the Grange
outside of Melbourne.
And, you know, over 200 students
and adult teachers saw this.
Men in black sort of people intercepted
and took away cameras and told the witnesses
not to talk about it.
It was a whole thing, right?
So I was interested in that story. And I was part of this like New South Wales, uh, UFO group,
and they would, they would sometimes have, you know, people in to speak and discuss UFOs from
other parts of the world. And Charles Hall came and I invited my friend,
this guy Andrew Dennis, who lives in Bondi Beach now.
He's another Canadian, but was living out there.
And I was like, do you want to come to this crazy UFO
lecture?
This guy Charles Hall is going to talk about his experience
with the tall whites these like aliens
that look like humans that are like a bit more frail and but they live in the middle of the desert in like a
Military base that's you know a joint program between humans and them
Yeah, I read like two of those books because he had like five, but he has like five books. I read two of them. It's crazy. So long story short, my favorite
part of Charles Hall's speech, which I even recorded and I still have on camera on one
of my hard drives from all these years. He talks about being in the mess hall with the
aliens and he's like, you would not believe how much these Nordics like strawberry
ice cream. I mean, it's good. They go to the ice cream machine and they would fill up their
coat so much. I've never seen aliens eat so much strawberry ice cream. I love you. I love it. I never, it doesn't get old. There's new things in each corner,
man.
When I was watching this lecture, I was watching and as soon as that part of the speech happened,
I looked over at my buddy, Andrew Dennis, and he was looking at me and we were just,
yeah, yeah., this is serious.
Remember, this man thinks that you but, you know, it is
I find it compelling.
I find all of this, honestly, I'm a sucker for it.
I love it. I do think that I'm with you.
Something's going on.
We've said like, I don't know what it is.
But I, you know, I think everything can be considered
with a grain of salt and also an open mind.
I think that you can look at it both ways and understand that there's stuff there, but be skeptical.
Yeah, totally. I mean, like.
The truth is out there, OK, we know to some degree.
We need to get that techno X file on to like a soundboard.
Exactly.
We know that there's some truth to the phenomenon, whether that's like a really deep cover up
of our own technology that we've made breakthroughs with like anti-gravity or aliens coming to
this planet and us meeting them secretly, covertly, and then saying,
there's nothing to see here, folks.
I mean, there's probably truths to both of that.
But what you get is you get people that enter the scene, that exploit that,
and they're going to tell their own flavor of the story.
They're going to capitalize on this and
become, you know, they're going to get their 15 minutes of fame. And you get that with everything.
You get that with Bigfoot. And I think there might be some truth there to Bigfoot. You've got you get
that with cryptocurrency. I mean, there's a guy that said he created Bitcoin that's been going to court for
the past five to six years and keeps being told by the court, you have no proof you created Bitcoin.
But you have people that see something that's big, that's possibly real and happening,
and they come into it and they do their thing and it's
probably always gonna happen and I think eventually we're gonna get more truth
out of you know this fruit we called ufology. Is there anything that to leave
our audience with like we'll wrap up now you're gonna want to check out
Trans Medium it's really good I weirdly think that some of its natural phenomena that is mimicking us.
I weird.
I really think there's stuff out there that is just like we just don't understand
was in the ocean, but a lot of it's very compelling.
It's a great documentary.
And I guess maybe one thing I maybe you could leave our audience with before
you leave is what's one tip that you could give people to help quote unquote winnow towards
the truth?
Like what to you, what's a way for people to look at a bunch of information and say
like and try to figure out what is real and what is not real or like, you know, like,
you know what I mean, I think like, what's really important is to
measure what we have done verifiably in, in, in science throughout history, you know, so
we've created these amazing computer systems and communication technologies and video
so that the world is a global village.
We can pick up the phone or open our computers
and we can communicate with each other instantaneously
as if we're in the same room, which we're doing right now, right?
Yes.
This is exciting. This is technology that's acceptable.
But then what powers all this stuff that we're communicating with around the world?
It's a fossil fuel industry. So I think what you can look at in terms of technology, I think there's a type of technology that's accepted, that's protected by our worldwide economies
so that we live within this box.
And I think it's true that we're kept there.
And I think there's a possibility that we might be broadening that spectrum of belief,
that spectrum of truth as that spectrum of truth,
as we go into the future,
because artificial intelligence is gonna speed up
the progress of everything.
I think AI, unless it turns on us
and there's some kind of catastrophic 9-11 type of event
that spurs from AI,
I think we're going to have advancements pretty quickly
in things that in the public,
we've been not allowed to have, right?
So, fusion and energy,
we did the breakthrough with that recently in the UK.
If you have artificial intelligence,
pushing that further and synthesizing that
to a greater degree for cheaper.
We could be getting like renewable energy that completely changes this old world of fossil fuel
economy. And I think opening up our consciousness to the idea that we're not alone in our universe,
not alone on our planet to some degree, that will allow us to open up our sciences, our
mainstream academic sciences, and allow us to push out into space like we haven't done before.
Really start to try, you know, Elon Musk wants to colonize Mars.
I think that will become more of a reality.
Bring it back.
Yes.
Yes.
I think that's, when you start to think about disclosure, it might aid in our ability to
navigate the cosmos, so to speak.
That might be a reason why the Pentagon or people within the military industrial complex
and intelligence agencies want this to be broadened and more widely known in society
because it will help, you know, push mankind to a new era and allow us to accept certain
scientific truths that weren't accepted before.
That's really great.
Mr. Weir, thank you so much for being here with us.
Eddie, you go, you want to leave with anything?
I, you know, I'm very, I'm very happy to have met you.
I think that personally as a new UFO guy,
I believe in, I think the concept of aliens and UFOs
being here make a lot more sense than God.
And so it's interesting for me to learn about this stuff.
I'm excited for when we can finally become the aliens and go to other planets and find
aliens ourselves.
Dude, we already are bro.
We're an alien.
We're aliens on this rock bro.
Look at octopus.
Exactly.
I mean, I also feel like the earth is 4 billion years old.
There could have been societies in the past.
Whoa.
Now he's getting, now he's getting down.
We're losing them.
I mean, dinosaurs are 65 million years. We're losing them. I mean,
dinosaurs are 65 million years. We can barely find those bones. He's turning into Graham
Hancock. We got a Graham Hancock. We got it. We got a Graham Hancock. Yes, I do. It's been
an honor to meet you. I can't wait to hang out with you. Thank you so much. We should
do a couples massage at the contact festival. Let's do it, man. Trust him in the dark. You can trust
him in the dark. I, I dude, thank you so much. Check out trans medium. It's on Amazon prime.
That's how I rented it. And it's a great deal. And then honestly, if you want to know anything
about UFOs, he's done it. So you just go through the lexicon. Is there anything you want to
plug? Is there with socials or is like a website you want people to go to? Yeah, sure. People can
hit me up on Twitter. It's a at occult journeys, which is my like studio name where I develop all
these really crazy documentaries about. And my website's occultjourneys.com and then it's Darcy Weir films on Instagram.
So dude, see you at contact.
Let's let's hit up some lectures and I'm there to learn.
I can't wait.
Yeah.
I'll be bringing vape.
Don't worry, man.
Come on, bro.
Thank you so much.
Good to meet you.
Henry.
Pleasure. Come on, bro. Dude, thank you so much. Yeah, good to meet you, Henry.
It's a pleasure.
Fly from your grave.
And that was Darcy Weir.
He did a good job.
Yeah, I like him.
I, you know what?
I trust him.
You know what's funny is that he might know
a little bit about the UFO phenomena.
You think so?
You know, I sometimes wonder,
cause I know everything he's saying.
You know, like I, he was,
he went through like a bunch of different concepts. And it's like, I... He went through, like, a bunch of different concepts.
I'm just like, yep, yep, yep.
I started to recognize a couple names.
See?
But I still don't...
I couldn't tell you what they are now.
I'm going to send you some more documentaries.
I like documentaries.
I like documentaries.
Yeah, me too. I prefer documentaries.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So thank you, Patreon subscribers.
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You...
You, individually... Are the aliens. Yep, you're there. You're them. Yeah, you don't know it
I'm telling you now cover the call the government on yourself. That's right, man. You are the ones
I already did it called the government on you and your family English isn't real what you actually are hearing is
Sounds like these
I know less now. Goodbye everyone else it
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