Pardon My Take - NFL Draft With Todd McShay, NBA/NHL First Round Is Underway, Ryan Garcia May Save Boxing And Mr Pear Win A Single Pick Challenge
Episode Date: April 22, 2024The NBA and NHL playoffs are here and we talk about every game from the weekend. Timberwolves next up (00:00:00-00:15:23). Is Embiid made of glass (00:15:23-00:24:41)? The Lakers/Nuggets play the same... game over and over (00:24:41-00:35:22). Big Cat has some words for Jerry Reinsdorf (00:35:22-00:44:59). Celtics are a wagon and the Mavs tricks us all (00:44:59-00:58:12). The Bruins own the Leafs and we debut our Period of the week (00:58:12-01:06:33). Who's back of the week including Ryan Garcia's electric weekend, rap beef, and John Sterling's brand new TV (01:06:33-01:26:09). Todd McShay joins the show to get us ready for the NFL Draft this week, where the draft starts, what he's hearing about picks after Caleb Williams at 1, who he loves that no one is talking about and a bonus fun fact about Mel Kiper having no cell phone and 5 landlines (01:26:09-02:16:44). We finish with Mr Pear trying to pick one single winner one time (02:16:44-02:27:44).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Todd McShay. It is draft week.
We're going to break down the draft with him. We're doing our draft analysis. We're going to
have some more on Wednesday, but we started off, kick it off with our good friend, Todd McShay. We're going to talk some playoffs. It is playoff time. We got NBA
playoffs. We got Stanley Cup playoffs. We got some overreaction to do to game one. Nothing better
than having a game one and being like, well, that's how the rest of the series is going to go.
Series over. Series over. home games will win every game yeah we're gonna do some who's back of the week we got mr. pear who is now o and two
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That's code TAKE to get $200 in bonus bets when you bet just $5 only on draft Kings. The crown is yours. It is playoff season. Hank put it perfectly.
He said there's no better couple of weeks here where we have game after game after game.
NBA playoffs have kicked off. Stanley cup playoffs have started. PFT. Yes. You want to overreact? Uh, yeah. The
Los Angeles Clippers are going to win the West. Oh, not. They're going to be, they're
going to compete. Hey, I said that mostly just to get Hank's hopes up because Hank has
grasped at all the straws. If you just, if you throw any team out there, any one individual
player that you think can shut Yolkich down, Hank's like, yep, yep, because he just doesn't want to see the nuggets.
Hank has gotten to the point where he admitted to us that he looked already at the NBA final
schedule and was saying it's going to be a tough schedule for him.
And he was like, game, game fours on a Friday in Denver, like going through it like that
where it's just set.
Well, he was looking at how it lined up with the show.
So he'd have to record. Yeah, he wants to go in the wood
He wants to are he would have to record I think at least a couple pods right after games, right? Yeah on the wood
Well, no, I don't want to I would only try to go to the wood on non recording nights
But game one and two which would be home games because Celtics have the best record in the NBA
Are on a Thursday and Sunday. Well, hey, you did fire me the fuck up with your tweet being like, this is it, the two
weeks, my favorite two weeks. I'm happy you took that because I feel like I am guilty
of having way too many favorites. Yeah. What are your favorite weeks? I know
that your conference championship week is your favorite week. Feast week is your favorite
week. Yep. Wild card weekend, super wild card weekend. I like divisional weekend.
I also sneaky like conference championship week Sunday
Yeah, I just like the variety because it's
Obviously, it's also that you know the first two weeks of the year. I'm really getting into hockey, but it's every single
Every single start a hockey yeah you you were you you get to have your one seed Celtics play and also the start of hockey
Season at the same time.
And every hockey playoff game is just the best. The crowds are crazy, never over.
It's way different than the regular season. We should do Mount Rushmore of Weeks for this
Mount Rushmore season. There's a lot of meat on that. World Cup week, great week right when it
kicks off. I just like the two different sports. That's where it's tough to beat this two weeks. If you do have two teams in the playoffs,
in the NBA and the NHL, this is, it's a great time. You really can't get anything done at
work. Yeah. All right. Well, so let's, let's overreact to some games. You want to just
go chronological order in the games this weekend and then we'll do hockey. Uh, because by the
way, like you, you saying that every second is a heart attack. I feel like the Bruins just spanked the Leafs every year and I just be a memory of just I don't
Maybe it happened like twice, but it feels like it happens all the time
No more than twice the Bruins the Maple Leafs are the 76ers of the NHL. Oh
To your specific team. Yeah, they're always you know regular season crazy fan base
And then they played the Boston team and get smoked and their fans caused them to lose without fail. Yeah. Okay. So they say it's because
of matchup and it's like they haven't caught out of the first round. Well, their matchup
is sent sewn off against a hockey puck and the pucks going to win that one. Yeah. All
right. So let's, let's go through some games. Let's talk some games. Uh, they are, we game
one, so let's not totally overreact, but let's overreact. The first game, which was perfect, it was the Saturday noon game is just a perfect analogy for the Texans game
on Saturday for wild card weekend. But Cavs Magic, the Cavs and Magic are doing throwback
basketball. They should actually play series in like grainy footage because
it is nineties basketball defense. Both teams are really good defensively and I'm just gonna
throw this out here. Bad strategy if you do Orlando Magic to have your three point guards
go combined over 17. Yeah, not good. Not a good one to have, but I think this is going
to be one of those series that the Cavs are going to win. I think they'll win both at home. Then
the Magic will win a couple at their home. Yeah. The season, the series hasn't even started
yet. They do have to put the ball in the basket though, because the Cavs, the Cavs shot 27%
from three and they won by 14. Yeah. Like it was tough. And again, it is like the Magic
have statistically one of the best or if not the best
Defenses in the NBA and the Cavs are also very good defense
Defensively when they ratchet it up, but it was it was tough to watch it was hard for them to put the ball in the basket
Did you also see in this game? We had the first two minutes Jake maybe take off your headphones
Don't listen this part with the first two minutes of the game, there's technical difficulties, no announcers,
and it was so nice.
It matched up perfectly with this game.
It was so nice.
Because it was like you're going back in time a little bit.
With the announcers, sometimes this happens.
Like once a year, it'll happen in a football game,
where you get usually like college football,
maybe like some, like the third rate Big Ten game,
the sound audio issues cut out for like 10
minutes. And you're like, it's kind of nice just hearing the
sound. Nice. Let the game talk. We don't need anyone telling us
in fact, some of the best things that we ever said to Joe Buck,
like you nailed that call because you didn't talk, you
let them breathe. Maybe they should just not talk all the
time. I would love to hear Tony Romo not talk. I can listen to
Tony Romo not talk for hours can listen to Tony Romo not talk for hours
Jake do you think there was like an emergency text message with like
I an eagle like Kevin Harlan Jim Nance like they figured out that they don't need us
No, that'll never happen. People say that and they'll after 10 minutes. They'll be like, alright, it's nice to have we just spent
Ten minutes last week on this show talking about how much verne lungquist means to
The game of golf that's that's my god different. Yeah, it's different and also verne is a legend
Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying like you guys try it out. No sirs. No, but it was nice
It was it was just nice
Maybe it was cuz I like just hearing the crowd all juiced up because no one talks about what announcers are good people just love to
Trash them. I'll tell you what No, we literally you just you just said burn Lundquist
No, I'm just saying like the we can't say that the casual fan is just they're only saying bad things about about broad
Jake are you concerned at all that?
One day they'll just come up with AI yeah, and they'll have AI Britain Musburger announcing a game
And we'll be like this is awesome. Yeah, maybe I'll give an alternate version. Oh, yeah, I John Madden would be great
I'm sign me up right nowate version with Nat Sounds, but no, I think within
sports media there will always be a need for a playback. You know what it is? It's way
more easy to tolerate if it's at a home game. Yeah. You get the crowd vibe. If this was
in Orlando and the Magic was playing that poorly and get the shit kicked out of them,
it would feel awkward. It would be like, this is cringe. Well, I need to hear something just to make me feel not weird
Yeah, and it was also the way the game started the the 90 seconds that there was no announcer
I think was Max Drews hit a three and then Donovan Mitchell hit a three and it was like the place was just fucking going nuts
Yeah, I don't know what it says about me. But every time I watch the heat play
I'm like Max Drews is definitely still on that team somewhere
I'm hoping Cleveland can win a series cause you know, fun fact, little fun fact.
The Cleveland Cavaliers, Dan Gilbert has never won a playoff series without LeBron James.
But he wrote that comic sans letter that told me that they were going to win a title before
LeBron did.
Yeah. He's never won a playoff series. Interesting. So actually maybe the playoffs haven't started
for him. They haven't started. He's never won a playoff series. Interesting. So actually maybe the playoffs haven't started for him. They haven't started.
He's never won a playoff series.
Yeah.
Cleveland's fun and honestly I think the Magic are fun.
They're a little bit young.
They just can't score the basketball.
They need to make a couple additions here or there.
You know what?
They need Mo Wagner.
Yeah.
Point card.
Yeah.
0 for 17 point cards.
Tough.
That's not great.
I'm just excited to watch a series where it just, the total
just keeps ticking lower and lower. I think it was like 208. Now it's, game two is 202.
I wouldn't be shocked if we get to like the 190s, low 190s because they're, again, a lot
of great defense, but also some not great shooting.
Yeah.
Okay. Next game we had on Saturday, Suns and T-wolves. Just a general thought
to before we talk basketball, the T-wolves should just stick with their throwbacks. Those are so
clean. The center court, the home whites, they're so clean. Yeah. We go through this, it's cyclical
with a lot of teams where you long for their throwbacks and then they are the last team to change up their old uniforms
You're like diesel a corny as hell and you desperately want to change and then ten years goes by you're like damn
Those were way better than these right because they're I think they're regular ones are just kind of like new age
You know with the font like the blue and the lime green kind of thing
Yeah, just like see how it's robot
They're kind of like Seahawks vibes. The old ones with the solid green,
the green that's like Ninja Turtle green in your face.
Yeah.
I like that.
This game, passing the torch?
Anthony Edwards is a legit superstar now.
That was so awesome.
That was such a great moment, because if people missed it,
Anthony Edwards played great.
The T-Walls were awesome.
And he was talking so much shit
to KD and KD was kind of laughing about it.
He couldn't do anything about it. He's like, yeah, you're right. You're kind of dunking
on me right now.
And it wasn't KD's fault. KD played well. I think the Timberwolves were basically like,
let's just let KD play Isoball and eliminate Booker who was a no show. But it was a cool
moment and here's my fun stat. I have some fun stats
for every game. Here's my fun stat for this game. Rudy Gobert had 16 rebounds. The Suns
as a team had 28.
It's pretty bad. No toughness.
It was crazy how many second shots the T-wolves got and just were so much more physical. And I, why don't
the sons get more shit? Well, here's the thing about the sons. They're missing Chris Paul.
They are missing Chris Paul big time. That's, that's one. And then you've got a bunch of
teams in the West that are now playing to determine who the real problem, who was the
guy that, that was responsible for fucking up the entire nets experiment. Yeah, but it and Katie is, he's just not tough. But it
doesn't feel well, he did play well. His teammates did not like that's the point is like it was
if you, if you go down the list, right? If the bucks go out early, that's a big story.
Yanis goes out early. If the Clippers, Oh my God, another failed year. The Lakers, like all these teams, the Celtics, they lose before the finals. I feel
like if the Suns lose, everyone's like, oh, okay. Even though they are another big three,
quote unquote, with Beal, Booker, and Kevin Durant, I feel like they kind of skate by.
Again, this is an overreaction. They easily can win this series, although I don't know
how they're gonna rebound if
Rudy go bears gonna do that every game just just two years ago. We had the Suns and four guy
Yeah, Suns were looking good. Remember him future look bright. Yeah that guy on the show. Yeah, he came on the show
That's quite a moment guy was awesome. He was the guy was awesome
Yeah, but yeah, they were just they're punishing punishing the nuggets, right? Yeah, and how quickly things have changed
Yeah, obviously injuries have a lot to do that and you're right like Katie is he's not the problem punishing, punishing the nuggets, right? Yeah. And how quickly things have changed. Yeah.
Obviously injuries have a lot to do that.
And you're right, like, Katie is, he's not the problem, but building a big three out
of Booker, Katie, and Beal, that's, it's a soft big three.
Right.
It's the soft.
And they don't get in a lot of shit.
I don't know.
Like if they get bounced in the first round, I don't know, will people, people just be
like, oh, well, Katie's kind of old.
They need, they need somebody that can light a fire on them.
They would actually, Tim Brown's with a higher seed.
I understand, but the Suns are, when they were constructed,
everyone's like, they're a problem.
Yeah.
They need to get a psycho on that team.
Booker needs to go up a level.
That's all you got to say.
Whenever you have disappointments,
I guess Grayson Allen's kind of a psycho, though.
Grayson Allen's a good basketball.
He just got paid a lot of money.
All he does is hit threes.
And he still wears those weird Forrest Gump ankle braces,
which always make me laugh.
He turned his ankle in this game.
Okay, T Wolves in four.
Whoever wins game one is four.
Five.
That'll go six or seven.
Yeah, I do too.
I think so as well.
Booker has to play better.
He, what did he end up,
I think he ended up with like 17 points,
which you're, the way they're built.
18.
18, the way they're built,
like KD, Booker, Beal have to score 70 points at least.
And so I'm putting that one on him.
I'm not putting that one on Katie. I'm not putting that one on Katie.
I'm putting that one on Booker. So maybe I'm the one who's soft and giving him a pass.
Nick Sixers. What a game. Garden was rocking. I love, I was actually going to give Max,
if the Sixers had won this game, I was going to give Max a big compliment because it felt like this was the dawning of a new Max because Embiid goes down on an awesome dunk. Looks like the season
is over yet again. And then Max, I went to look and see if he was spiraling and he just
had sixers second half game of the year. Now they ended up losing the game, but they did
cover the second half. Max, I think it honestly just comes down to the fact that the Knicks like role players are better than the Sixers role players.
Yeah. I mean, it's game one. This is overreactions. Yeah. If you, if you're a bride in your face,
21 points, I'm going to do that every game. I mean, if you were to know, Tobias Harris
is never going to know he's terrible, but I mean mean we had Nick Patum go for 20 25 the day before
It's just they didn't show up
Yesterday yeah, how many how many points did he have? I think he had three like three points
Yeah, it's in in role players do play better at home. Yeah play off
So that's definitely part of it where like yeah Josh Hart scored more than he usually does Josh Hart was me
Down the end in the end of the game Josh Hart made
Every single shot yeah, you're gonna have games like that and they won by seven points
I'm interested in like mentally where you're at when you're watching this game when when Jill and Brunson does something awesome
Is there like a quarter of a second where you're pumped up, and then you have to be like oh shit
Well Brunson kind of played like shit
Yeah, but you know I'm saying like he gave all the credit to do some right when any When any of those Nova guys when they do something cool for a second just a second. Are you like oh that was awesome
Josh Hart no Brunson
There's there's just a special place in my heart for Jalen Brunson, so it's it's tough, but like
No, he's the enemy right now. He's the enemy Dante good Italian boy. I know I love Dante to Dante
Valet his car when I was parking when I was in college
Did you scratch it up?
Whoa, I was just I was joking. No, I was just thinking about it because I was gonna I don't think he tipped and I remember
I was like
Yeah college kid before NIL before NIL
NIL he would have given you like a hundred grand. Well well He was going to like a really nice steakhouse, so
Interesting oh, so Jay right
Maybe paying the players off the books
That's how is he affording that what kind of car it was the shittiest car. What it smell like I?
Don't know probably smelled like a like a college kids car, okay?
What I smell like weed smell like weed. So Jay Wright had
Players getting free meals left and right and just not boxing their cars. Not true. Yeah
Ah, so where's your head at for this series, but in bead made a glass
Hank I would like to get your take on him bead. What do you mean? You came back in the game?
But like again, I don't want to I don't want to be a hater
But it's like this isn't even about you why like I was gonna ask I asked for his thoughts
Because there's nothing better than when Hank can can smirk and just be right about this
Well the playoffs if you make it to the finals, it's a long run like do how many games you think can beat has in?
One game in he's already. Yeah, he's seven. I don't think they're gonna win the fucking finals
I'm just trying to take it one game at a time when he falls you that's a new max every single time
He falls down you're like, oh, that's the end for Embiid. Yeah eight months. That's a problem. I have a go ahead Max
What do you think me the allegations and bead made of glass?
Learned how to fall better remember when you asked what said that for like three months
So now you know that was the thing cuz everyone's like he falls he falls
But yeah, he was told to fall because it's better for injury than trying to brace the impact
But he also gets injured more than anyone in the world. That's not true. Is he Anthony Davis gets injured all the time
Yeah, Matt Max is stealing my tape
Max was saying like yeah, he gets injured and then five later, you know, he's gonna be back in.
I was like, oh, it could be worse.
Could be Anthony Davis.
Every time he gets injured,
he like leaves the game for 15 minutes
and goes to the locker room.
And then he comes back,
you're like, oh shit, I thought he was dead.
Somehow he's out here playing.
So you gotta be-
I respect that.
You always, if you're in, if you're boxed in as a fan,
you gotta just find someone else and be like,
no, that guy.
He's way worse.
You're correct about that take, Zion to always her Zion good yeah glass
point Zion and Joe came back and had a good game
John T Porter's not playing anymore gambling on the gambling on games got a
lifetime band didn't do that yeah what about Hank what about giddy how come
we're not talking about giddy he? He's in the playoffs too. Yeah, he should be playing
That was shout out our guy Michael Malone giving Giddy a compliment
Unprompted. Yeah, it was all strictly on the court. Yeah. Yeah, he said, you know, he dealt with some stuff off
Between the lines. Yeah. All right, so so
Not made of glass
Okay, I have another question for you, Max. Buddy healed.
He's a streaky shooter.
Okay, why doesn't he shoot?
There is something out there.
He doesn't shoot.
When Embiid is on the court, he's scared to shoot.
It's crazy.
He's there to shoot the basketball and he doesn't shoot. There weren't at the end of that, there
was one possession at the end of that game where he, it was just like an in, in rhythm
shot that we needed to go down. And then I think we ended up like getting a, like a shot
clock because we just didn't get a shot. He doesn't shoot. I don't get it. Like he's,
his, his whole reason for being there is to shoot and then he just won't shoot
Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, we're the fans and Philly gonna chant that you can't chant MVP this year, obviously
When when maxi's shooting free throws, I think I'd chant for most improved player MIP MIP MIP
He was good maxi maxi's great good last year though, why does he win the MIP. MIP. MIP. Yeah. MIP. He was awesome.
He was good.
Maxi, Maxi was great.
He was good last year though.
Why does he win the MIP?
Well, he was the number, he wasn't as good last year.
No, I know, but he was good.
Yeah.
It's really just going from the number three.
It's all relative.
Yeah.
Last year you said build around Maxi and I made fun of you for that and I would like
to rescind that take.
He's very good.
He is very good. But actually, no, I I don't listen that take because he's very good now
He's the most improved player for a reason back when I said it. I was right and now I'm right for acknowledging that he is good
Credit credit to you. Yeah credit to you huge credit to you
Do you think that the Sixers coaching staff and players goes over end of game situations and like you know if you if you're down five with 45 seconds left, the only way to win is to foul or
Yeah, but teams don't foul in the NBA. It's crazy. They just don't. It's it's you get
distorted watching college basketball where it's like they'll start following with three
minutes left. I don't understand it. It was mathematically impossible. I agree with you.
They don't. They were playing defense to hope to get the ball back with like seven seconds
Yeah, to then have to hit a three to then have to get the ball back
We don't worry don't do it cuz Nick nurse says that he has some tricks ready to go. Yeah, he's got some tricks
I don't know what Nick nurses tricks are gonna be
But reports are out there that he has established tricks and discuss some tricks the quote Nick Pattoom
Hinting potential tricky stuff tricky stuff
We're getting two adjustments for Nick nurse last night
We know what we did wrong and we found a way
I think this morning to do something special with us. I won't tell you what tricky stuff would be with the would
Doing tricks finding tricks. Is that one step ahead like before the panic button?
I'd say if you're funny, that's a panic move. Yeah, right.
Like to have to go game two, we need the tricks.
Yeah, you can't beat him straight up.
And we gotta throw some sand in their eyes.
Okay, Joel, you're gonna get on your hands and knees
and bark like a dog, and then they'll look at you,
and then Max will just drive to the hole and dunk you.
See if we had a ladder underneath the arena
we can hit him with.
He's gonna get the two tricks.
He's watching Globetrotters tape tonight.
Tricks. If it's early, to go to the tricks. Yeah, but like what if the tricks are awesome
So hot where are you on your?
Well won't say panic button where you on the tricks meter
And I mean you need all the tricks right now. This is a must trick says you must you're gonna win the series six
You're gonna win the series. Oh plus. I think it's plus 250 soul patch
No No, I'm already really invested so
I don't know. So I don't think that I have to do any bets. OK. I do think I did want
to commend you though. I feel like it's a dawning of a new match. You were way more.
I know it's something about the Knicks like I don't know Knicks fans are annoying and
they get it so cocky and I'm like now you want to talk about it also have a one shit. It's kind of like yeah spider-man
Yeah, Hank is just loving every second of this he's a should be able to talk literally scheduling his his
Cuts to Denver the the new year nicks are the apps are in the booth. They're legendary. They're incredible
The fan base is awesome at winning a playoff game and then getting way ahead of themselves
And I love it so they started the we want Boston chant. Boston chant. Oh, that's not even next round. Yeah. Run free Hank.
I mean they shut down seventh Ave after they won one game against the Hawks and lost the
series and fight. Yeah. Yeah. But it was sick. Those videos. Also the big ball off with like
10 years. Also that was the crowning of future superstar Trey young. Yeah that series. That's a fact. That's a fact
Okay, the night game
Lakers nuggets. I fucking love the Lakers and nuggets because it's literally the same thing every time
Diggers come out to a lead
LeBron has a great first quarter. If you look at just the stats, you could tell yourself that Anthony Davis and yokich
Were like played to a stalemate. But if you watch the game yokich controlled everything If you look at just the stats, you could tell yourself that Anthony Davis and Jokic were
played to a stalemate.
But if you watch the game, Jokic controlled everything and the Nuggets, as soon as the
Lakers need someone other than Anthony Davis or LeBron James to do something, the Nuggets
just kick their ass and they win by, what'd they end up winning by?
They won by 11.
And everyone's like, Lakers are so close.
Yeah. Well, the first half. Yeah. The first happens in every one of these games. The first
half was really close. And then if you're, if you know ball at all, you load up on the
nuggets in the second half because it's not sustainable what they're doing. And the nuggets,
they can just beat you in too many ways. And Yoko is just too smart of a guy to let you
do the exact same thing for two halves and get away with it.
It's actually really nice that the Nuggets do this for the discourse because everyone
just gets to go out on their shows and be like, Lakers are right there.
Which are so close.
Which I like.
I really, no, I love it actually because it allows us to then be very disappointed in
LeBron when it doesn't happen.
Yeah.
They trick you into thinking that
they're good enough to compete and good enough to beat the Nuggets. The Nuggets are just on a
completely different level from them. They played probably like a B, B minus game and one by a left.
And it's, and it's, and look, we like Nick Wright, he's a friend of ours, but like he does his like
first quarter. He's like, no one's ever going to see this again with LeBron James. LeBron,
it's insane what LeBron is doing at
39. He does not have the stamina to do it for four quarters. Like you saw it. He scored,
I think maybe two or four points in garbage time with like under a minute left in the
fourth quarter. He runs out of gas and no one else, like the other guys have to do stuff
and they're not able to. D'Angelo Russell was terrible. Mm-hmm. And he's got it. Real bad. And they just, also, I like the Lakers just stop running plays when, like, as soon as,
as soon as some, as soon as Jokic starts taking over the game, they're like, all right, let's
just go start chucking some threes and hope this works.
And it doesn't work.
We just get hot.
If we, we turn into a, just one half, we just, if we're up by any points or if we're tied
at halftime, let's just try to get to the second, and all we have to do is win one half, and anyone can get hot for a half. We just, if we're up by any points or if we're tied at halftime, let's just try
to get to the second. And all we have to do is win one half and anyone can get hot for
a half. So everyone just keeps shooting it. Somebody's going to be hot. Hopefully that'll
work its way out. It's not going to work its way out against the Nuggets.
It's just, I love these two teams playing against each other because it's the same game
every single time. And it's, did you see, see, uh, I gotta find it. Jamel Hills tweet from last
year has become a meme that people were, were, uh, we're using and we're copying and everyone
was like, people were confused with, she said this, she said this last year, a win is a
win. I think it was after game one, but if I'm Denver, I treat this like a loss. Lakers
figured out something by putting Hachimura on Yoke-Itch. That's one of those somewhat
small adjustments can win a series. No, it's not. No, it's not. The Nuggets are better than the Lakers.
Yeah. Hachimura is not, sorry Hank, he's not the Jokic stopper. You have to keep looking
for somebody else. Because it's not going to be anybody on this Lakers team. Like, I
don't know, Bron and Anthony Davis.
But you know what I mean?
One last run, little magic.
You know what I mean? Like, if you look at the box score, you're like Anthony Davis He was very good and you're like, okay, he went toe-for-toe
he ended up with 32 14 and 5 and Yoke Hitch was
32 12 and 7 so you're like, oh
Like that's what you got. Anthony Davis played Yoke Hitch to it
But that's just not if you watch the game Yoke Hitches controls everything the series game is in the palm of his hands the series
Frankly was over when yokich stepped out of his car wearing the outfit from despicable me dude
He's dressed up his grew before the game
I love I love him so much the fact that he doesn't really do that much advertising and then he was like, you know
What? Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be the the the main advertiser for despicable me for yeah, it's great
to be the main advertiser for Despicable Me 4. Yeah, it was great.
It was fucking awesome.
It was awesome.
And I actually kind of like his commercial where he's talking about saving up miles to
go to Serbia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, the Despicable Me promo was awesome.
It was really good.
And all the, what do they call them?
Minions?
The Minions.
I've watched it.
It's actually a very funny movie.
Trust me, I've never seen it.
I watched it with my kids and it's a great-
They're like massively, massively successful. Yeah. It's a perfect- I've never seen it. I watched with my kids and it's it's a great massively massively successful
Yes, it's a it's a it's a perfect
I've never seen them kids movie because the the minions like fall and like they bump their heads and they speak gibberish
So it's like a lot of like Michael Scott kids laughs
Yeah, would I would I be totally lost if I just watched minions without watching despicable me? We know that
No, minions have their own movie.
Oh, yeah. I think I might have watched that. Dressed up to. They have their own ride at
Universal. See, I just want to, Minions is the most recent one. I just want to jump.
Or I think there's multiple Minions. Which one did I watch? You might've watched just
as the one everyone dressed up in like tuxedos to. I think I just watched Minions. Went to
the movies. I might just hop right in just cold turkey right into minions without any of the lore or
the backstory I watched minions memes is raising his hand yes memes you may talk
minions is a pretty cool to despicable me I want yeah because his minions the
one where they go they show like the history of time with the minions yeah
then I saw minions great movie in England yes little
grew and then they do like a forest gump minions pulled up the official timeline
so it was the original Despicable Me in 2010 and then there were two minions
versions that are prequels but they were filmed out of order filmed well they
were released out of order it's based on true story yeah yeah it's documentary
the second wait wait so you're implying that there's an entire minion verse that
Exists just like the normal universe does where everything that happens in our life also happens to the minions
Yeah, so like 9-11 happened to yes. No, no, they did they went through it all. Yeah. Yeah, like JFK
Yes, a minion JFK. There were
many. There were many good minions on. Yeah. Yeah. Besides Larry Nance just scored his
eighth point. Turns into Squidward. I just love that. I love this Lakers Nuggets series.
Do you think the Lakers can can do it? Hank, I want to believe. I mean, I'll look really
stupid but I just think that I think the Nuggets, the nuggets are, we do it all the time in sports where a team won
a title and then they maybe aren't as dominant the next year. And everyone's like trying
to poke holes. And it's like nuggets when they, when it's, they're all healthy and it's
those five guys, they're just really good. Yeah, they're a problem
I'll be just rooting best best case or you know at the very least just for some six seven game series you get tired Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want to see you're already doing the the rest like you want to wear down
We're two months away from the NBA finals
Yeah, hopefully it's two months of war
Hey, yeah
Hank Hank, Hank wants Jokic after like three games to be talking about going back
to his horses already. Some are saying you're, you're kind of scared
because why wouldn't you? No, but if you're so good, why wouldn't you say, hey, we're
so good. We don't care. However we get there, whoever we play, however much rest they have,
it doesn't matter. We're the best team. You're already trying to do. You're actually on your one step away from panic button. You're trying
to do tricks. You're doing tricks on it. Little bro. No, I'm giving the nuggets for the respect
they deserve. They're low key glazing them. Yeah, they're they're fucking good. Yeah,
they are. They're really good. And the thing about like we talked about, this was Mike,
Michael Malone, excuse me, when we interviewed him last week, but there I don't think they've reached the point where anybody
really hates the nuggets right on a national level.
No, we're still like this.
Definitely not.
This is beautiful basketball to watch.
Unhateable.
They're fun.
I think they got two more.
They got two more chips in them before they become hateable.
I don't even know how you would hate.
Where would you start with Jokic to hate him?
The Jokic brothers a little shady.
No, no.
Michael Porter Jr. a little shady. No.
Michael Porter Jr., a little shady.
Family, a little shady.
Michael Porter Jr.
He's a great guy.
Shout out Michael Porter Jr.
Because him having like, I would not stand in front of the media
and take that question where they were like, hey,
so one of your brother's going to jail,
and the other one just got to the NBA.
How are you feeling?
And he answered it like very, very well, very eloquently.
He gets my MVP. I think he said, I think he said like, I have 12 brothers in this locker
room. Yeah. I think he said 15. He was doing the math in his head. Okay. Like, wait, we
got G league two way guys. Yeah. The trainers. Yeah. No, they're definitely, they're not
even close to being able. The only way that Yoke it should become hateable is in the the Patrick
Mahomes vein where you don't hate him because he's a bad guy you hate him because he just prevents you from winning championships
Yeah, um Hank
True serum Hank. I do a true serum Hank segment
Also quickly say before if the Lakers get blown on next game LeBron will not finish the series. Oh
He'll pull an injury they he did it
Saturday night.
I think him and Anthony Davis missed like four layups in a row at the end of the game.
And I said it out loud.
I was like LeBron's gonna, this is fake injury territory.
And the next play he fell, held his arm and was on the ground doing the thing where like
he was looking around to see if people bought how injured he was acting and then got up
it was fine.
All right. True serum Hank. You have to answer this as truthfully as you can.
How many injuries are you rooting for?
None.
None.
None.
I don't want to win like that.
That can't be zero.
No, I don't want to, you can't put that into the world.
You truly can't.
You basically were just saying that you wanted to be the inner.
No, I was pointing out that that's like that's Sun will rise. Yeah. No, I'm not I don't want MB to get hurt
I can just look at data in history and acknowledge that he is made of glass like the stats and the fact every playoff series
He's you know out of gas hurt. Whatever it may be. Just doesn't bring up those stats
Yeah, all right, Hank Wednesday. Give us a report. Wednesday. He'll give us a report. The playoff injury stat. Just to
put a little a boat about just when he was out of shape. You said injury that that out
of shape is in class. Mental injury to put a bow on what Hank said earlier regarding
the NHL, the Maple Leafs Bruins. This Max sent this over. This is a very funny stat.
So in the postseason, the Maple Leafs and the Bruins, Toronto has won 40 games, Boston
has won 42.
So Boston just barely edges the Leafs out.
They're tied with eight series wins each.
And then at the bottom of the screen, you look at it, the last time the Maple Leafs
beat the Bruins in a series was 1959.
Wow.
So domination.
Domination. Spanking So domination is spanking.
Yes.
Spanking.
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Okay. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Celtics, Heat, apologies, the, well, Mr. Pear and
the Bulls choked on Friday night. Can I, since we didn't have a show after Friday night,
permission to just see Red for a minute here?
Yep. Real quick minute.
The Chicago Bulls are a joke of an organization.
Jerry Reinsdorf is one of the worst owners,
if not the worst in the NBA.
He's a fucking clown.
And I need people to understand
because what happens with a franchise like the Bulls
because they have the history of Michael Jordan and the six titles and they had Derek Rose
who that was a just to remind you is a 1.7% chance to win that lottery was the second
longest odds ever. I think the shackq lottery was the longest for the Magic.
They had Michael Jordan and other than that, they like to sell on nostalgia and nothing else and
not put out a competent, competitive basketball team. I have some stats for you because I want
people to realize that Jerry Reinsdorf is so, so bad. And because of the history of the Bulls, you think that organization isn't that bad, but
they are that bad.
And they are that pathetic.
And Jerry Reinsdorf should be put on blast all the time on a national media basis everywhere
because he's a joke.
So in a league where more than half the teams make the playoffs, that's not even counting
the play in. I'm saying it's more than half the teams make the playoffs. That's not even counting the play-in. I'm saying it's more than half the teams make the playoffs because I think it was 30 teams
and 16 teams make the playoffs. The Chicago Bulls have made the playoffs two times in
the last nine seasons. Two times. They're back-to-back 9-10 game champions and that's
it. So they've made the playoffs two times in the last nine seasons. Since 2014-15, which was the last Tibbs, Derrick Rose, Jimmy Butler year, they have won three
total playoff games.
Three playoff games.
They have more playoff wins in the last nine years than just two franchises in the NBA,
the Magic and the Pistons.
They have more playoff appearances in the last nine years than just two franchise, the Kings and the Hornets. If you told someone Kings,
Hornets, I know the Kings have turned around the last two years, but Kings, Hornets, Magic,
Pistons, people don't put the Bulls in that group. The Bulls are in that group. They should
actually be very much in that group. They're a fucking joke. I went through it. If you took out the two Boylan
years, which were Jim Boylan was one of the worst coaches ever. The Bulls were not trying.
The last 12 seasons since Derek Rose got hurt, the Bulls are averaging how many wins a year?
35. 41, which is by design. That's exactly what they want. Here's a quote from Jerry
Reinsdorf. You ready for this? Sports is a business of failure, but the fact that you
finished second or third or fourth, it doesn't mean you had a bad year. I think the important
thing to fans is, well, they want you to win championships. They want you to know that when they get down to the last month of the season, you still
have a shot.
You're still playing meaningful games.
If you can do that consistently, you'll make your fans happy.
This is all by design.
Define meaningful.
Yes.
It means get into the playoffs.
You think the plan that qualifies, that checks the box off for him as being a meaningful,
because essentially you're playing a mini playoff series. He does not care about winning
titles. He cares about winning 41 games, having some games down the stretch where people can tune
in and be like, will the Bulls make the playoffs? And the reason why he does that is because nine
out of the last 10 years, not counting the COVID, the two COVID years, the Chicago Bulls have led the NBA in attendance.
He does not give a fuck.
He wants to build a team to never go over the luxury tax.
The Bulls are the only team in the NBA
who have not made a single move
at the trade deadline in the last three years.
That's the whole design.
The whole design is to put out a team
that is exceedingly mediocre to get people into the stands and
to never actually try to win a championship.
He's focusing all of his energy on the white socks and building them up.
But he's a joke.
I just want people to realize because it does trick you when you think of the Bulls and
you think of MJ.
They are no different than the Pistons, than the Magic who were in the playoffs who've
actually built it. And actually those teams, the Pistons, the Magic Magic who were in the playoffs who actually built
it. And actually those teams, the Pistons, the Magic, the Hornets, the Kings, they've
actually at least been bad enough for stretches where they get top three picks. The Bulls'
only chance of getting a top three pick is getting a 1.7 lottery shot where they get
Derrick Rose and then they blame his injury on the next 10 years. And they are a joke
of an organization. Jerry Reinsdorf is the worst owner. He's a piece of shit. He does not care about winning. He just wants
to take your money, have you sit in there and be like, oh, they won 41 games. Maybe
they have a shot. Fans are smarter than that now. They never had a shot. There was a joke
would happen against the heat. They would have gotten killed by the Celtics. It doesn't
matter. They suck. Jerry Reinsor, fuck you, dude.
That's what I respect about European soccer fans,
is when the owners fuck with them like this.
Yeah.
They riot.
They'll show up with flares, they'll throw eggs
at the guy's car on the street.
In America, we're just like, yeah, this sucks.
He's literally admitting that he does not care.
He just wants to sell tickets
and be just good enough to be
Average to a certain extent for him like playoff series kind of get in the way of his jet-setting lifestyle. Yeah No, I mean, I'd rather not work Friday night. I was talking with a bunch of friends like okay
I want them to win because I like some of these guys on the team
But also Jerry Reinsorf wants nothing more than to have two more ticket gates for playoff games that he has no chance of winning
That series. Mm-hmm. Like that's a dream for him. So all right. That was my C red Celtics heat. Sorry. Hey,
you know what sucks too is like the fact that they sometimes occasionally will win a playing
game. Right. Everybody gets like a momentary like they get gassed up by that. Right. And
they're like, that was a really fun night of basketball. I can't believe that that Kobe
White did that. That was so much fun.
It's fun to be a Bulls fan and you get this temporary fix.
That's like little tiny hit.
But then if you if you step back and you look at what that game was, it was nothing.
It was the most inconsequential.
The stats don't even count.
That stat will never show up in NBA history.
It was nothing.
It was a fun night.
You might have had fun watching the Bulls for that one night.
But at the same time, it's like a bandaid that's on a grenade wound. Yeah, it's nothing and they're gonna do they're probably gonna here's what they're gonna do
They're gonna probably resign Demar de Rosen who I like to Marta Rose and great guy great players 34 years old
Whose game doesn't fit in the modern NBA?
They're gonna
Resign Demar de Rosen and then be like Lonzo ball will fix everything even though he hasn't played basketball in two and a half years
He'll be okay. That's what's gonna happen made our glass fix the shot and then be like, Lonzo Ball will fix everything, even though he hasn't played basketball in two and a half years.
He'll be okay.
That's what's gonna happen.
Made out of glass.
Fix the shot.
And then they're gonna, guess what they're gonna do?
They're gonna win 38 games and lose in the playing game.
And it's gonna be like, and it's just,
it is actually the worst place you can be as a franchise,
what Jerry Reinsdorf has built,
where it's like, you're never actually competing
and you're also never tanking to the point
where you can rebuild your roster.
Yeah, you wanna have a plan.
Cause if you, if-
There's no, the plan, well the plan, his plan is-
He does have a plan.
He's working his plan perfectly.
But his plan doesn't make sense, is the thing.
If you have a crummy team, you wanna be the worst.
You wanna be like, with the Wizards for me,
it's like, that's why I always call them
the most inconsequential team in professional sports because for the longest time they didn't they were never relevant to a really a playoff conversation at all
But they were also never really irrelevant enough to get that top pick like what you're describing now
We all it takes just sign Jordan pool for a season
Yeah, and then next thing you know, you're in the lottery and guess what the Wizards
I'm gonna try to find where I found all the stats. The Wizards have won
more series. Yeah. Cause we had been to the playoffs more times. John Wall. We had Paul
Pierce. That was, that was a fun team then. That's what, that's the whole point of this
rant is that I want people to stop thinking of the Bulls. And maybe people already do,
but I think if you ask like a hundred people, like the Bulls, they'd be like, Oh, they're
not bad franchise. No, they are. Yeah. They're a bad franchise. Uh, Hank Celtic, sorry. They're so much better than the heat.
Seeing green. You don't have to worry about this series at all. Yeah. Unless they try
and take out our best players. What? Yeah. Oh, is that that they call the hit in? Got
it. That's why I was talking about the injury. Got it. That's why you said you're rooting for zero injuries
Got it. Correct. Okay. Yeah. Yeah now makes sense
The Celtics were up 16 with like a minute and a half left. He called timeout kind of weird move Mm-hmm, and then like a player too later
Caleb Martin came in super low on Tatum getting a rebound scared you. Yeah, it was a scary fall
Yeah, and then jail it was jail and they got in
his face, right?
Yeah. Weird, weird timing with the timeout. Kind of a weird looking play.
Appropriate response by the Celtics? Yeah. I mean, you need enough guys.
Missoula and Missoula after they asked him about it and he was like, I was loving it.
Yeah. Oh, he said that. He's like, yeah, he fucking Missoula. If you didn't listen to
our interview with Missoula on
Friday, go back and listen to it because he is the man. I was
excited for him to choke me out. Yeah.
Please put that on a quote card. Yeah. And but don't say who he's
talking about. That man to choke me up. That was that was one of
those interviews where there were so many crazy things that
he said that I absolutely loved that people didn't
know what crazy thing to write an entire article about.
Right.
Yeah, we had a bunch of articles written where it was just, and this, and this, the revolving
door.
Yeah.
But to Hank's point on that play, Jake, is this heat culture where you're sending in
goons to try to tabletop somebody and get a neck injury?
Sounds like it.
Well, if it was intentional, obviously I disavow,
but if it wasn't intentional,
then they're just pointing the finger for no reason.
There's no proof.
What'd you think when you saw the play?
Looked like a basketball play.
Oh!
He was looking at the hoop,
looking for the rebound.
Under, in Jason's like, leg gooch?
His leg armpit?
Jason's. Drew Holliday may have pushed him into him.
That's what other people were saying too.
Yeah.
Hank, is it...
Is it weird that you spent the whole season,
or at least the last two months of the season,
being like, get us to the playoffs because
we already clinched the number one seed,
we're the best team in the NBA,
this is all fodder, and now you're in the playoffs
and it feels like it's the same thing where it's like get you to the, get you to
the conference finals. Cause like the heat or just not, I mean, I don't know if they
could, if they would win this series with Jimmy Butler, but without Jimmy Butler, they
just do not have the offense. No. Yeah. I mean, again, I'm definitely thinking ahead.
It does feel, you know, brings me back to the old Patriots days, not, not mean again, I'm definitely thinking ahead it does feel you know brings you back to the old Patriots days
Not not here anymore, but it is
For a series formality if you know even if you lose in the conference finals
That's a failure of a season just get me get me to this
You can't say Patriots when you haven't won yet
No, I'm saying it's max it feels like how it felt max doesn't understand that as a Patriots fan when every year
They're the best team in the regular season, and you're just you're not thinking about you're thinking about the Super Bowl
You're looking at the other conference thinking about Super Bowl matchups
You just bypassed the Eastern conference. I mean, I think that's completely fair given the road that the Celtics will have to go through
Yeah, you you should just want to get through this one
I would actually say like what do you think the over-under is for?
Celtics losses before the NBA finals six and a half seven and a half. They'll have some wonky loss
Five and a half no
Bucks before the finals bucks might give him a couple games. Yeah, it's fine. All the Eastern conference
I'd set it at four and a half
Four and a half.
Because I don't think they're going to lose the game here.
Maybe say one.
I don't think they would lose more than one to the Cavs or the Magic.
I think the number is five and a half.
But if they lose, I think they'll lose one, maybe one here, one in the second round, and
then they would just have to win in six in the Eastern Conference Final.
That'd be four.
I think they're gonna lose one
They might lose two next round. I don't know. I don't think so. It's gonna be easy for him
So I should but my point is no injuries. You're you're actually right to think this way. I know yeah
Yeah, but then all then all you have to worry about is
Certainly hope that no one else gets injured on the western side. Yeah. No, we need fucking LeBron and AD two top five players
I'm so glad all time. I know it's not gonna happen
I would love to have the Lakers I wear LeBron Lakers Jersey on the show for a week if
Shed homerun with just an all-time block there in a big moment. We're watching the end of this game
Well, it's going on we'll talk about in a second
I think so to to go back to my question, you are like, this is kind of like,
I know you're getting up for these games, but you're also just, it's just like get to
the next round and don't get hurt. You're watching these games like, you know, I was
ready for them to pull them when they got up 30, the heat came back a little bit, but
seeing a fall like that with a minute left, you know, in a meaningless game is terrifying. SGA just hit an incredible shot there. Yeah, that was actually like a 30 second,
30 seconds of like the thunder's future
flashing before our eyes and it looks fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Chet Holmgren with an enormous block
and then SGA with an awesome man won.
Seem could beat the Nuggets.
Yeah, he's already doing the,
he was, Hank was like Chet
Homer can lock down your kitchen. He needs to gain probably 60 pound one can lock down
your kitchen. Everything about your kitchen. Stretch them out. But if you if you say your
kitchen you can't score he's gonna be like, Okay, I'll have 25 assists. And they'd be
like, your kitchen you can score is like, Okay, then I'll score 30 points. He's a problem.
He's a problem.
Okay, so good job, good win.
Thanks.
Yeah, not worried about this series.
No.
Next game Wednesday, that's the worst.
And then they have three games in four days.
I've never seen it back to back in the NBA playoffs.
Have you?
That's crazy.
Yeah, I think they've been doing it recently.
There's like arena shit.
Yeah, sorry that the Bulls suck, because I know you wanted to go to, I would have gone to that game with you on Saturday. Yeah, I think they've yeah, like there's like arena shit. Yeah Sorry that the bulls suck because I know you wanted to go to I would have gone to that game with you on Saturday
Yeah, you would have spanked me
Choked out you got we would have gotten choked out by Joe Missoula
Okay
Mavs Clippers I
Got bamboozled by the Mavs. Yeah. I mean, quite out. Yeah. You know what I
forgot about Kawhi. Well, you know what I forgot and we need to just remind ourselves
this James Harden. I went through it. I didn't add up all the stats, but if you look at it,
just just perusing it. James Harden, when he has rest, basically every game one, he's
awesome and he was awesome. He just has a lot of rest. He feels awesome. He scores a
lot of points. He's awesome. And then game two happens, you know two days later and he's tired Paul George back on his bully shit
Yeah, yeah, the Clippers look good. Steve Ballmer was having a great time. Yeah, or side to just fucking pumped for everything
He was and we even had like the fake Dallas come back that made it look a little bit close for a minute there
Luca got his points. He got everything.
But yeah, the rounds.
Luca did get his points.
Well, that's the thing, the comeback, yeah,
where it was, they were, they scored like,
what did they score, 40 points in the first half?
They were so, so bad.
And uh.
Eight in the second quarter.
Eight in the second quarter, yeah.
Oh yeah, 30 points, sorry, 30 points in the first half.
That's almost impossible to do if you're not the Cavs of the Magic.
So I don't grind the film like you guys do, but it occurs to me when I'm watching Luca
when he's playing from a deficit, when his team's not leading, he seems to take a hell
of a lot of time off the shot clock.
Yeah. Well, he's got a dribble.
He has to dribble, yeah.
He's got a dribble. And they were kind of screwed too when Daniel Gaffer got it, even though he's not.
Daniel Gaffer is one of those guys, he's good.
But when you're like, we need Daniel Gaffer to be awesome all the time, that might be
a flaw.
He is good, but it might be a flaw.
Yeah.
I got, I got hoodlung by the, by the Mavs.
I did.
I bought it.
I'm an idiot.
I feel stupid. I think the, I think the Clippers are underdogs again in game two and I like the Clippers again
I like the Clippers in the series. I
Don't know I I'm dumb for thinking that a team that's led by James Harden can do some damage in the playoffs
But I game ones, but I kind of do game ones
He can do it, but even if it's later on in the series, if Kawhi's back,
you get Paul George cooking, I don't know. I feel like this Clippers team could do something.
Me too. Game ones. From Houston, James Harden on 20, 27, 24. This is Mike Francesa, a bit
20, 28, 17. So nothing great. Here we go. 37, 20, 44, 41, 41. Guy likes rest. 29, 35, 37,
36. Did he do it last year too? Oh yeah. Yeah. Guy likes rest. When he gets his rest, yeah,
he scored 45 in game one against the Celtics. And then he did have one other big game, but
all the other games he was under 20 points.
Did he have single digits for one game?
Yeah, he had nine in game seven.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The guy likes rest.
So just remember, James Harden, when he has rest, bet him.
If they take care of business, get the Mavericks, he'll have a bunch of time to rest before
the next round.
Yeah.
All right.
Dame time.
Dame time in Milwaukee. That was awesome. He was on fire.
He went off in the first half. He had 19 points in the first quarter.
He was incredible. And then it just felt like he finished with only 35. I say only 35,
but he scored 19 in the first quarter. 19 of their 30. It was just too late for the Pacers. They made
a little run and it was just not enough.
They got to like within 10 or something down the stretch, but the game never really felt
close.
And if Giannis comes back, Giannis back, that would concern, that's the only way that I
could see the Celtics losing seven games.
Is Giannis would be, yeah, I mean if he's fully healthy he's still he still would be the
best player in a series against Celtics Celtics would have the next like four
best players but Yannis would be the best player yeah that's that's the only
issue for for the seas Hank but yeah the Bucks this feels like it's gonna be an
easy series for him yeah again overreaction sweep sweep by the Bucks
belt to ass. Yeah.
When is Yannis coming back?
Who comes back first, Yannis or Kawhi?
I feel like Kawhi plays like every other day.
It depends on how he feels like getting out of bed that morning.
The Clippers said they're like, yeah, we knew he was out for like the last week.
Yeah.
So they were prepared for it.
But yeah.
If there's like bad weather weather his knee swells up
He's I can't go I'm gonna say Yannis. I'm gonna say Yannis comes back before Kwai. No, I don't know
I feel always mysterious what happens to Kwai, but he's just always out
Like all right, he's out. You'd be very very frustrating if that was your favorite team
If you're a die-hard Clippers fan and having a guy that's so good
Yeah, why that just sometimes decides like no, I'm not gonna do it today.
CJ.
Like calling for the win.
No.
Thunder take game one.
Thunder take game one.
That was, so we can talk about that game.
That was, it was a rock fight to start the game.
But the fact that we got to see that Chet Holm
were in SGA at the end, these young Thunder,
watch out.
Yeah, they might just be too young to know they're not supposed to be this good.
It does suck so bad that Zion's out because the Pelicans are like a weird matchup for
a lot of teams with their size and he just, it's just so frustrating to have him out of
this series.
I want to see him play in the playoffs.
Do people like watching CJ McCollum play? Because do yeah, but I feel like has he Hayes
I feel like I see a lot of discourse about him being a super boring superstar
I don't know if he's a super boring star. Yeah, Yannis will definitely be back first. Yeah, what are you reading?
Yannis is supposed to be back later in the series. Kwai hasn't participated in contact practice or played since March 31st.
Okay, so yeah, that's gonna be Yanis for sure.
That's 100% Yanis.
I like the Thunder, they're fun.
And that stadium actually is pretty awesome
when it gets bumpin'.
Yeah, they care.
Yeah, they do, I do think they lead the league
in amount of fans that wear the t-shirt giveaways.
Yeah. They are number one in the NBA. You see a lot of guys wear the t-shirt giveaways. Yeah.
They are number one in the NBA.
You see a lot of guys in the crowd wearing a dress shirt, like all a dress shirt with
the t-shirt that they just got over top of that dress shirt.
Yeah, it's not even a question.
When they get that free t-shirt, it's on.
Yeah, you don't have to get dressed up to go, look, there's like seven of them right
now.
Yeah, it's crazy.
They're just all, they all just fall in line and they're like, free t-shirt, we got to
wear it. I respect that. I respect it too. It's a. They're just all they all just fall in line. They're like free t-shirt. We got to wear it. Mm-hmm
Well, I respect that I respect it too. It's a it's a good basketball town. Yeah
Seattle people are mad
well, the you know, the reason why they got the team was because during Katrina the
Yeah hornets at the time. Yeah laid there and David Stern was like, holy shit. This city actually cares about basketball
Yeah, they're first on my list and well and also because and then see a lot. Yeah, yeah, Howard Schultz
Fuck that up so bad. Yep and sold the team to guys that were all from Oklahoma. Mm-hmm, and they're like, oh, yeah
We do want to move weird Seattle should have a team. Yeah, see how should have a team
Okay, you want to talk some hockey Hank?
Punished the maple leaves. Okay, we want to talk some hockey. Hank punished the maple leaves. Yeah. Punished
them looking to take the all time lead in that series. Love the jerseys. Feel like I
haven't seen those in the playoffs. Good hockey analysis. I like this. Well, yeah, you turned
the game on your car. Let's you know, talking puck these times. And I was like, Ooh, these
are new. They probably weren't them all year, but for me they were near They're new. Yeah, who's who's the key to the series Hank?
Swamen sway me. I gotta be hot gotta be hot go if you say Bergeron was kind of a no-show. He wasn't no show
Yeah, you know I hear you're not Marcia's team is and you know pucks after the game
How are you guys gonna stop Austin Matthews?
They got a lot of chances It's Marcia's team, yeah. It's H&L pucks after the game. How are you guys going to stop Austin Matthews?
They got a lot of chances.
Just put on the Bruins jersey and watch them put on the Maple Leafs jersey.
Swim it. I already answered that.
Okay.
Memes, can we talk about your game real quick because you lost the Hurricanes. But I thought
like the Islanders were... It wasn't a game where I was like, oh, the Islanders have no
chance in this series.
Yeah, no, they this was definitely the game they should have stole.
Did you watch a game?
I watched the second and third period.
So I guess I missed the time when they were tied.
Yeah, it was one one pretty much the entire game.
During the when they when the Islanders score because I want to score in the first I'll
just go in the first. Yeah, I didn't see an island
It was like that the entire time and then probably during the second period when nobody was scoring I was like, oh fuck
We're we're in for a battle the end just like last year. It's going to be the exact same series
I'm sorry, so you're gonna lose I
Don't want to say yeah, okay, you're not optimistic about the sounds good. Well. It's gonna be a battle
We got a bounce back game to anything can happen. It's it's hockey anything could happen
But I think game one was the game we could have stole we had a lot more opportunities refs kind of fucked us right off the bat
Oh, yeah, I like that
Into it yeah, no you're right. You're right. They did
Fuck you that they hate the islanders quick
Well, it was a flop instant flop. They go right to the power play score in 14 seconds
man
That's tough
Pft your caps. Yeah, I've got a couple keys to turning this around for the cap. Okay, let's go
Alright, so the caps lose four to one. That's what the official stats say
But if you take out like three minutes in the second period
We actually tied this game 1-1
Okay
If you don't count those and also we were pressing at the end to try to score
They probably would have scored that one either if you take out that
Ten seconds and the two and a half minutes in the second period
The Caps actually won this game one nothing in a series where nobody
Thought that we could come within three goals of beating the Rangers And it turns out that we technically kind of actually won that game.
So would the key to the game be allow the Capitals to eliminate any three minutes of
their choosing? Yeah, retroactively. I like it ahead of time. But after the game, I predict
that if you if you give me those parameters, the Capitals might even sweep the range. Okay,
so so we'll go we'll track that going going forward that as long as PFT can eliminate three minutes
of every game, you're going to win.
I'm going to win.
I'm going to win.
Maybe not a sweep, but I think we'll get it done in five.
Okay.
And my two keys to turning this around, actually I have three.
One, start a fight.
Whenever you're very clearly the less talented team, just try to get another skin skin some sin Tom Wilson out there try to wreck the franchise for the second time in four years
Yep, although they do have rimpie scares me. I don't think that Tom could take him, but it would be a good fight
I'd like to see it either get into a fight. That's key number one key number two is
Tried not at any point in the game to allow your team to get out shot with
20 straight shots.
Yes.
So try to limit the New York Rangers from, put it out like 18, 18 or fewer shots in a
row for them before we get one shot on that.
That would be a good one.
And then my other key is-
We should make that a rule too.
Yeah.
Anytime the Rangers have more than 10 consecutive shots anything after that doesn't count correct? Yeah, although
I mean I I don't want to say it won't happen
But I don't think that they'll ever have a time in this series where they get 20 consecutive shots on that
Because that's crazy. Well not under our not under our new rules. Yeah, right 10 is the math
We're fixing the game of hockey
and then my my third key to turning the series around is that a Vetskin should have at least one shot on goal.
Okay, that's a good idea. That's the buddy healed. Yeah. He'll do no Vetskin. If Ovi
can get one shot at least on goal, I think that's going to go a long way to turning this
around. But yeah, that was after the first like 10 minutes, I knew that we're not as good as the Rangers.
But again, it's hockey.
Anything can happen.
Anything can happen.
I was already telling myself like, well,
they're not used to seeing a left-handed goalie.
Yup, you actually texted us that.
Yeah.
We all bet on the Capitals to have your back.
Chuckie was catching a lot of pucks out there
with his right hand.
They're not used to trying to go stick side. There's there with his right hand. They're not used to trying to go gloves are they're trying to stick side. There's a big
fat glove there. They're not used to that. They figure that out. They figure that out
after the first period. I should have known we were in trouble because I went I took my
son to the Cubs game when you sent that text being like never seen a left handed goalie.
They have known that was a problem. They haven't they haven't seen it too much this year and
it takes it takes some adjusting. They were firing a lot of pucks
right into that big fat glove.
But yeah, listen, I'm happy to be in the playoffs.
I'm happy to have some meaningful games to root for,
and anything could happen.
Hockey's a weird sport, but if it goes any way at all,
similarly to how it went tonight,
it's gonna be a very short series.
Yeah, okay. But with the new rules, we'll monitor them. Yeah, going to be a very short series. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm, I'm,
but with the new rules, we'll, we'll monitor. Yeah. So that's like the caps are up one,
nothing. Yeah. Okay. Nice. And then the abs jets win my game of the game of the first
round, first games. I'm actually, I'm going to give them the first game. I'm going to
give that my period of the week. Yeah. Period of the week. The first period goes to the
first period in this game. And no, the third period too. The third period. Yeah. The third period was
the third period might've. You sure you want to give it to the first period? Yeah. Yeah.
I do. I want to give also remember we have in the running when the Islanders got screwed.
Yeah. As the nominee for period of the week. So I like the first period in this game better
than the third because the third didn't really get cooking until the last 30 seconds. Yeah.
Okay. So we'll do period of the week for the rest of the playoffs. So that was so our official
memes. Can you make this graphic? Official period of the week to close this week was
the first period of the Avs jets game. Yep. I like that. I feel good about that.
Yeah, that's a good one.
So we'll be monitoring period of the week starting Monday.
And you know what?
If you don't like our period of the week, make your own.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have my own entry.
Oh.
The second period of the NYPDF, the NY Heroes hockey game.
There was a brawl.
OK.
OK.
That's all, I think.
Now you're making me feel like I'm like I'm not supporting heroes.
Just saying. Yeah. But that avjets first period was awesome.
I'm going to give the heroes period of the week. Yep.
Goes to the second period in the heroes game. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Uh, we will have biz and wit on probably next week after draft. Yeah. Have them on to talk some hockey in depth.
Cause we don't know what we're talking about, but that's fine. I think we covered it. We don't know what we're talking about
with anything. We covered it pretty good. These are my favorite when we also the Panthers
on the Panthers did win. Yeah. The thing about about hockey fans though, if you're a die
hard puck boy, you're probably also listening to spitting chiclets or yes, a podcast that
will make you smarter and know what they're talking about when it comes to hockey. Listen,
they know they're not going to it comes to hockey. Listen.
They know they're not going to get that from us.
People know we're more football guys than anything else.
We do love all the sports.
We'll talk about all the sports.
This is the time of year where people will just like, we probably have said, I don't
know, 10 things that have been wrong.
Some magic fan will hit me up and be like, dude, you're so off.
I'm like, you know what?
You're right.
I am.
Hand up.
I'm definitely a hockey casual.
I'm coming out as a hockey casual.
You are right.
You are right.
I am wrong.
But yeah, I thought that was a good recap of the weekend.
All right, should we do Who's Back of the Week?
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Hank, your Who's Back of the Week.
My Who's Back of the Week is Tupac.
Oh.
Yeah, he is.
So in the update of the Drake, Kendrick Lamar,
J. Cole, Rap Beef, which I'm sure you guys
have been very locked in on.
Mm-hmm, actually I have.
I have not. I don't like how you said that I think it was directed more to me. No. I don't think so
He said you guys
Why forgot you do the podcast with arian so he'd tell what does that mean well the King von thing last why?
Huh, I'm talking about King boy
Why would you say that arian would be able to teach me about rap?
Because when you brought up King Von and I was shocked about that, it turned out that
that was because Arian was talking about King Von.
No he wasn't.
That's what people were telling me.
No, that's not true.
Who?
You guys didn't talk about King Von and Macrodosa?
Like maybe two years ago, three years ago.
Who brought him up?
I don't know.
I don't recall. But no, that's just it what that's what I was like specifically about arian that
so did make you think have you guys talked about this rat beef on macro
dosing yes so that's what I'm talking okay alright so but I I understand look
at me when you say that we don't know because I don't know big cat doesn't
even know a black guy no you can just carry him yeah oh big cat doesn't even know a black guy. Nope. You can just carry him. Yeah. Oh big cat knows too now. Mm-hmm
Anyway, where were we?
Kendrick Lamar allegedly there was a leaked song that was
Kendrick Lamar a diss track of Drake wasn't great people kind of shat on it and then it they went like quiet and
The rumor was that people were saying I was AI
It wasn't really a diss track
Drake
Basically seems to think that it was actually Kendrick Lamar
So in retaliation he wrote a diss track and then got AI to pock and Snoop Dogg to sing it
So it's a Drake diss track, but it's like Tupac's voice dissing Kendrick Lamar and then
Snoop Dogg's voice dissing Kendrick Lamar. That's kind of cool. I don't think it was
that cool because it was cool. And it was a good dog still alive. Wait, so wait, hold on.
You say it was cool. You say it wasn't that cool. Which one is it? Cause I'm the only one who doesn't
know what's going on. I don't think it was cool. I think you know what it is. Counterpoint.
I don't think it was cool. I think you know what it is ain't counterpoint the
It was basically like
Calling Kendrick Lamar out for trying to use AI as an excuse when it wasn't so he used AI He basically just like used AI to his advantage
And he kind of did the Eminem like with the Marshall Mathers like he dissed himself
The streets are saying a Tupac the streets are saying that it's corny the streets are saying that Drake is corny
For this that was kind of cool what he said though and that all the Drake meat riders out there are just sucking it down
And they're corny to max deciding vote cool. Oh
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was very I don't know anything about that was funny very cool now very cool, okay?
No, you can't you can't take two pox force
All right now would be cool if Tupac's voice all right now it would be
cool if Tupac was still actually alive and Drake's the only guy that knows that
would be and then he's like this is AI Tupac and then everybody out there was
like you know Drake you're corny but then the back of his head he's like yeah
but I know I'm the only one that knows that that was real I respect that I
thought it's cool but two bucks back okay put up a poll cool or not we'll
just tune in to Macdo see I'm sure you guys will talk about it and we'll find out once and for all.
Okay.
I'm gonna go with cool.
My Who's Back of the Week...
Being fat and winning.
Oh.
Fat winners.
Because we're gonna talk about the boxing a little bit.
Oh. Awesome.
And it was incredible because before the fight they had
to weigh in at 140 pounds or less 140 pounds right and then Ryan Garcia said that he would
pay he would he weighed in at 143 pounds correct which is really overweight for very much that's
incredibly overweight like he did not give a fuck and then he told Haney that he would
pay him $500 thousand dollars a pound
Yes over what he weighed in at so he his dad was like don't do this
Yeah, and so he ended up paying him one point five million to get into the ring
They couldn't be for a title belt right because he was over right he was so fat
He still has the title and so then he just proceeded to beat the shit out of him for was it 12 rounds 10 rounds?
12 12 rounds? 10 rounds?
12 rounds.
12 rounds.
And it was not particularly close.
And everyone, no one thought that Garcia had a chance.
I would count myself in with that group of people that thought he actually was insane.
Yeah, he was like plus 600.
He was acting very crazy.
Turns out he just sold an awesome fight because I watched every second of it.
It was a
lot of clinching.
Also the ref essentially saved Devin Haney because I think the ref was worried that Ryan
Garcia was going to do something crazy.
I think it was round seven where he knocked him down and the ref basically was just like
almost picking up Devin Haney being like, you're good.
But Garcia was awesome and he might be the new face of boxing
because he's like the perfect amount of crazy,
fun to watch, was throwing bombs.
And yeah, he's something else.
He is something else.
I actually go back and I look at all the weird stuff
he's done the last couple of months.
And now I don't know how much of it was an act
and how much was like he could really be crazy. That's why he's the perfect boxer and he won on 420
Which is great for him because he was smoking the biggest blunt that I've ever seen after yeah
He might have just been like the most high individual for the last two months
Yeah, and just allowed himself to have like a schizophrenic break just from smoking too much pot
We also had after the fight one of my favorite like encounters
I've seen
in a long time. Eddie Hearns, our friend who's been on this show and Ryan Garcia's dad. Hearn.
Hearn. Hearns. Thanks, Hank. Good friend. Good friend, Eddie Hearns. And Ryan Garcia's
dad. I think I had memes pull up the video. Did you guys see this? Yeah. It was so good.
For people who don't see it, we can put this in uh this is the it is in the tunnel after the fight big respect to ryan garcia he was amazing
I told you a piece of shit. And that's what you get.
Now what are you gonna say?
I'm gonna say, who can't vote?
Who can't vote?
They're fucking Devin Haney, fuck you.
Now who you got?
Who you got?
Jaron Ennis.
Jaron Ennis.
Who?
Jaron Ennis.
How about Pippen Booth?
You know he's good.
Jaron Ennis is good.
Jaron Ennis.
Respect.
Respect.
It was a good performance.
Sorry.
I know you're emotional.
Man, that is just full.
When you win, I'll give you all the respect in the world.
OK, give Ryan the respect.
I thought you told him.
You did?
Absolutely.
Thanks, it's how we work.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
That was so good because it was just,
it was like the perfect mail exchange where we went from,
fuck you, you're a piece of shit, grabbing the balls,
to, I'm sorry, in 20 seconds.
And respect to Garcia's dad for just being a good dad.
Yeah.
It's like, okay, you don't like my son.
Well, you're an enemy for life.
Actually, you seem like a cool guy.
Okay.
Now you like my son.
Now we're both boys.
And respect to Eddie Hearn for not backing down.
Yeah.
Like, no, fuck you.
You're a piece of shit.
But yeah, it was an awesome fight.
Like I, it was, it was a very, very fun and Ryan Garcia
is like that perfect amount of crazy that makes boxing fun. And thank God he won because
there was, cause Devin Haney in the first like six, Ryan Garcia came out and was like
going crazy in the first round. Then for the next five rounds, Devin Haney did win those
rounds, but then Garcia knocked him down three times.
Yeah. And one of them, he got, he got one of them he got he got points taken away, too
He got points away because he he did punch him after they were broken up kind of kind of yeah
Well, he did punch him. He didn't get warned. You could say he didn't get warned
Which is fair, but he did punch him. He was doing a lot of holding to hold on for dear life
He did not get penalized for anything, but it was uh
It don't what concerns me is that like garcy was so fucking crazy going up to this fight.
And it worked.
It worked out perfectly for him.
What's he gonna do in the next fight?
I'm in.
How's he gonna get crazier?
I mean, he had that press conference on Thursday where he started with saying like, all love
to Jesus.
I love Jesus and ended it with suck my dick, Devin Haney.
Yeah.
He said, did he say he like broke into Bohemian Grove?
Yeah.
He had like, I
forget all the stuff he was saying going on. He also said after the, after the fight, like,
yeah, my prep for this fight was just drinking every day. Yeah, no, he posted a meme that
says it's Devin Haney wakes up at 430 AM every morning to train no drugs or alcohol, listens
to his trainer diet sparring trains five times a day runs eight miles every day. Ryan Garcia
alcohol. Thank you. Jesus. Yeah
Obviously, he's a lot better than that. He's a really good boxer, but
No, he said he said he said in the press conference. Yeah, I drink every day
I know it's probably nothing to brag about but I like to drink and so that's what I did to train for this fight
Yeah, although then after he drank a beer during the weigh-in which people were like, oh, of course
He they do the weigh-in before they do like the press conference weigh-in. But he was saying
afterwards that it was just, it was just apple juice.
I liked it.
Who knows what's real?
No one knows.
No one knows.
I don't know what's a mark. Like am I a mark?
Yeah.
I think I'm a mark.
It was a fun weekend though. It was a fun, it was a fun Ryan Garcia, very fun fight.
Okay. I have two who's backs of the week, both baseball related.
First one is terrible gifts,
because John Sterling retired from the Yankees,
done what was like 45 years or something
as the voice of the Yankees.
The Yankees got him an 83 inch TV from Best Buy.
And then the ceremony-
The picture was so funny.
The ceremony of gifting him this
TV was hilarious too because they took it so seriously. So seriously. They think he didn't
have a TV. You might not. No, I think actually I read an article he has five TVs and they're
all small. I don't know if they're all small. Yeah. Listen, I would not turn away a TV.
If somebody wanted to give me an 83 inch TV, I'd be okay with it. But they cost nothing now though.
They're like 400 bucks.
Those ones are tough to move too.
Yeah.
Do you think they got the warranty?
They better have gotten the warranty.
Oh, he's not going to be able to set that thing up.
No one ever gets the warranty.
I hope the Yankees at least sprung for the warranty.
He's going to have motion smoothing on it.
He's going to not be able to watch it.
He's going to have like four different remotes and he's not going to remember which one goes
to which TV. Oh, this is the new TV with the new remote that's
not programmed correctly yet. That's going to be a nightmare for an old guy.
His sons are going to help him out. They're AWLs.
Okay. Okay. Cool. All right. So they're getting them.
So if they're listening right now. I have to get John Sterling on.
Geek Squad. Yeah. I'd like to have John Sterling on the show. Yeah. The 83 inch TV though,
the picture of that, 45 years. Here's a TV. Thank you for your service. Appreciate
it. Yeah. People were like, well, the Yankees only had a few days to figure out a gift.
You couldn't think of anything other than a TV. Also his schedule dwindled down this
year. Yeah. Do you think like somebody in the Yankees front office had just purchased
that TV? Yeah. And then I go, we have a ceremony. Fuck. What are we going to get? Oh, that was
the I've got a TV in my car
Yeah, that was definitely sitting in in like the AV room in the dug in the locker room where they're like
Well, we have an extra just in case one of these, you know, someone takes a bat to a TV
Yeah, and no one can fit it in their car. Yeah, right. It's the worst gift you could give so spin zone
They're saving the money for Juan Soto's next contract. Mmm. Yeah
Yeah, they are like nothing now.
Like this was a great gift 20 years ago.
It's crazy.
Like, holy shit, he got an 83-inch TV?
Like inflation sucks.
Everything is getting way more expensive, except TV.
TVs.
TVs are like half as expensive as they used to be 10 years ago.
Do you remember like the first like nice TV that you got?
It was like, this is is we have to be so careful
This is now it's like TVs are nothing. They're giving them away
They all I have to do is quit your job and you get a TV. Let's see 83 inch TV
That's by remember when there wasn't HD like yeah, I see with a big deal. I remember this last year
I went to Best Buy
And I was getting a TV and I had a massive wall that I wasn't
trying to put anything else on so I was like I'm gonna get a big TV.
I was thinking 70 inch and it was maybe like 80 bucks more for 83 inch and I was like oh
sure let me get the 83 inch like fuck it.
I hope they got them the top of the line.
And then I couldn't put it in my car.
They did.
I hope it was top of the line because when you get an 83 inch TV if it's not super high
quality at that level it starts to look like shit.
They did because I'm seeing right now you can get an 85 inch TV for $900, but they did
get them the OLED LG, which was $4,500 curve screen. So pretty nice. I don't know if it's
curved. Yeah. I don't know. The first, the first game I ever watched in HGTV, uh, was
with my dad, the midge game. Oh, yeah. Unbelievable game to watch in a dollar.
That is a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. Uh, my other
who's back, I have another who's back baseball related, uh,
who's back the week is the Philly fanatic because he held
his birthday bash today and he invited every mascot except
Bloopy. Oh no. Yes. Love it. That fuck would have, I mean, think about the budget
for food if you invite Bloopy.
Or you have to buy three plane tickets for him.
And you can't have kids around.
So he could have denied an invitation
because he's scared of Philadelphia.
That's true.
That's, I mean.
Now, if you invite every other mascot,
it's kind of a cuck move for every other mascot to just,
you've got games that day too.
Yeah, but Philly's kind of like-
You go across the country to celebrate another mascot's birthday?
The Fanatic is, well, mascots I think will do anything to get together.
They do like getting together.
I know, but I like it so much better when it's rare.
Yeah, but-
It's like at the All-Star game.
But if there was one mascot that everyone would go to their birthday party,
I think the Philly Fanatic, like, not trying to glaze Max here, he is kind of the OG.
He is one of the OGs, but still, I think you have to have a little bit more pride in yourself
than these guys are having and just being like, oh yeah, I'm going to go tip my cap
to another team's mascot.
Well they probably didn't just do a birthday party.
They probably played like a scrimmage against like a peewee football team and kick their ass just ran all over. Yeah. Yeah, Bryce Harper got him a gift
It was a cool glove. What do you get him?
You got cool gloves like a massive glove probably better than John Sterling's gift
Yeah, was it a mascot glove that he could put on over his he put it on over
I'll pull it up. That is pretty cool
But no, I think blooper got invited but that that bitch was too scared. Oh, I mean, he's terrified of Philly
Oh, that is a great gift
Wait, oh no, he hasn't opened it yet. Here it is a
Huge glove. Oh, wait, what? Oh, no, it was a shoe. Oh, wait, this is 2019 fuck
Oh Bryce Harper get some gifts every year for his birthday. Wow Bryce Harper loves the fanatics. I mean no Bryce Harper
That's like a thing here. It is. He has like an obsession with the fanatic. Yeah, cuz he has the cleats. Yeah
That's kind of cool. Here it is. Here it is. The fanatic is hilarious, dude
Like he is what blue B wants to be blue B's an imitation
That's a nice glove is a good glove. Yeah, it's big.
Big ass glove.
You remember when Tommy Lasorda got into a fight with him?
Yeah.
That's all I was saying.
He is the standard.
All right.
Jake.
My Who's Back of the Week is the future of golf being in good hands.
We had some crazy stories in the golf world this week.
We can start off with the LPGA Tour.
Nellie Korda, tailor-made athlete.
She won her fifth start in a row
whoa and this was a major whoa that's sick what major uh the Chevy I think
that's a major yeah cuz Chevy that's true what a great brand that is true
check yeah you know what let's start with the LPGA if you win five weeks in a
row Chevron Championship.
Okay.
Also-
Wait, no, that's Chevy.
It's a Chevy Championship.
Chevron is not Chevy.
I know, but we're just gonna call it that.
We're just gonna call it that.
I got my brands mixed up.
Okay.
Also, you guys want to call dibs on Miles Russell.
Okay.
15 years old, first ever, youngest ever player to make the cut at the Corn
Fairy Tour.
OK, dibs.
I'm sick with Charlie.
I got two dibs.
No, you can't go with that.
Well, we have Brooks and Max.
Yeah.
No, but for future.
Yeah, you can do two.
For who's got next.
Yeah, we need two.
Yeah.
And finally, it was range.
Rain delay right now, but Scottie is up by five
with three holes left.
Yeah, he's just left Yes, which is insane
You know what?
We can't have to that we can have two next guys up because I think it'll be good for Charlie to have this type of
Competition where it'll be like Arnold Palmer Jack Nicklaus. Yeah true winning all those majors between them
Yeah, it'll be good for this for the growth of the game. Yeah, so the future's in good hands. Mm-hmm
I like it. All right, let's do top McShea and then after topic Shay we have mr
Paris picks which we won't do mr. Pair on every episode, but we have to get him a win on an episode
Well, then he'll be more of a football turtle
We'll do some Instagram lives with them for other big NBA NHL games
But we have to get this fucking stupid-ass turtle a win. I think we should fade the turtle
I'm gonna fade the turtle if I fade the turtle. He turtle a win. I think we should fade the turtle.
I'm gonna fade the turtle.
If I fade the turtle, he's gonna win.
I'm gonna fade him.
I'm gonna fade whatever this pick is.
That's a promise.
Okay.
And, or, I tossed this out here earlier, but if he continues to lose, we should punish
him in some way.
Okay.
I like that.
Or we can just blame memes.
Yeah.
Memes are already trying to give this turtle to my kids.
No, no punishing.
No punishing.
Okay, no punishing of the turtle, but we can blame memes. No, we can verbally punish him. No,
PETA, no punishing. You can't insult an animal. You can verbally berate an animal. I will get
eye to eye with Mr. Pear and tell him he's a fucking loser. You know what, Mr. Pear,
I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. I got a problem in my house because my kids
love Mr. Pear. They met him today. They were so pumped
Meem just keep saying it's your turtle. Yeah, he's trying to pawn them up pawn off. Mr. Pear
That was the fastest thing but is this we going to he's got he's got win some games
This this turtles will live or lose every years in Matt and memes already trying to get rid of them four days in
He's got to win or lose them all
Yeah, it's true. I hope he keeps losing
Okay He's got to win or lose them all. Yeah, it's true. I hope he keeps losing. OK.
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Okay, it is draft week.
It is time. We welcome on our good, good friend, recurring guest,
Todd McShay. Todd, first of all, how you doing? Ready for draft?
I'm doing great, man. I'm ready for the draft. Yeah, I'm going to be sitting alone at home
this year. A little bit different than normal, but yeah, but I'm fired up. I'm fired up.
So I mean, there's nothing better than draft time. I know you've still been doing all the work, all the calls.
Let's start at the top.
Cale Williams is a bear, so we can just say that, right?
Like, it's 100% slam dunk.
Don't tell me that when I paint my fingernails on Thursday
night, I'm going to look like a fool.
And I know you will.
Yeah.
Now, that's a lot. I just find it interesting, right?
Like we get to the end of the season and you get all these anonymous scouts who are like,
you know, I wouldn't take him there.
If I was making the decision for Chicago, I would be worried.
I would be concerned about all these things.
You're crying in the stands with his mom and painting his fingernails and do his teammates
love him and all of that. And then you get to the combine and it's like all the
media has time now to go out and have dinners and drinks and interact with all the people
in the league. And then immediately it's like two days into the combine. It works. Oh yeah.
Yeah. Caleb's going to Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. That because he's it's like he's been the first pick for two years now so it's like yes it would
have been the first pick last year right right so it's the fatigue is there where people are
picking apart and he's he's going to be a bear so so with knowing that he's going to be a bear
um let me ask you this where does the draft start well let me just before we pass on Caleb I know you care about this, like you go back and look at some of the situations that the number one overall pick has been drafted into.
And it's been ugly like Bryce Young last year, I would argue is the ugliest situation that any of these these number one overall picks at quarterback have been drafted into 2-15 last year, traded Christian McCaffrey, staff fired, owner, all the issues with David Tepper that we know.
No weapons, no protection.
So, everyone's like, Stroud, you should have taken Stroud, and maybe they should have, okay?
But maybe they should have had a better organization around him.
Go back to Trevor Lawrence in 2021.
And Trevor hasn't become the guy that we thought he was going to be to this point.
We're still waiting for him to make that like that third step, if you will.
But as a rookie with Urban Meyer, that situation, disasters in terms of the organizational leadership,
no protection, no weapons.
He had, you know, three and 14 as a rookie.
Doug Peterson comes in, they had a couple weapons, they protect him a little better,
and they make that huge jump they made in the second year.
So like these number one overall picks are typically drafted into really bad situations.
I don't think it's the case in Chicago.
Yeah.
I think you're going to see a big jump.
Like what Ryan Poles has done from last year to this year,
also having the number nine overall pick.
The general manager has kind of seen the vision.
Let's put things around the quarterback position
so that when we do draft Caleb next year,
we're gonna put him in a better situation.
Now all of a sudden, Caleb comes in
and you've got DJ Moore, Keenan Allen,
Deandre Swift and Depth behind him at running back,
Cole Comedic at tight end. Like
this is this is as good a situation as we've seen in a long time. Like going back to beyond like
Kyler Murray in 2019, beyond Baker Mayfield 2018 Cleveland. This is you have to go back a while to
say which quarterback was in this good of a situation that Caleb Williams is entering into
as the number one overall pick in the draft.
I love it. I love it. And it's why all the talk about him like, oh, he's going to say
he doesn't want to go to Chicago. It's like, when is a seven and 10 team ever going to
draft one number one overall again? Like that's the other part is the team, they weren't great,
but they were not the worst. They weren't a two win team and their defense is good.
I couldn't be more excited. I agree obviously
that this is a perfect situation for him. Um, and I, I am, I'm just going, I'm all in,
I'm going all in. I don't care. Like what people are going to say, all this stuff. I
think he's the first gen Z quarterback that will piss people off, but everything else,
he's going to be awesome and I'm pumped for it. So knowing that he's going one, PFT is up on the clock at two.
What's the pick going to be?
It's got to be Jaden Daniels.
Yep.
And I know that everyone is linking Drake May,
and there's all sorts of conversations there.
Drake May has tremendous upside.
You better be ready, though, with Drake May
to sit him for a year.
When you look at the history of drafting quarterbacks, numbers of starts, then you look with Drake May to sit him for a year. When you look at the history of draft drafting quarterbacks,
numbers of starts, then you look at Drake May specifically,
the inconsistency with his decision-making at times,
with his footwork, which leads to, you know, erratic accuracy.
I think Drake May could wind up being the second best quarterback in this draft,
maybe if put in the right situation and has time to develop,
like Patrick Mahomes had a full year.
So to me, I think in the right situation, he'll be great.
Jaden Daniels, I got done with the tape
at the end of the season, and I was like, damn,
I don't know, if I'm just evaluating this past year, 2023,
I don't see a huge difference between Caleb and Jaden.
I don't.
You gotta remember with Caleb, there was that Notre Dame game
and there were losses at the end of the year
and he's trying to do too much.
And he'll work that out of his system
when he gets to the NFL and has more structure
and better defense and all those things.
But from just based off the tape,
and then you had the mobility with Jaden,
the fact that like the improvement that he made
over the last two years playing in a pro style system,
understanding and trusting his reads,
I think he's got a chance to be special.
And so when I'm done with the tape,
I always try to kind of rack my board,
figure out who I like, and then I start making calls.
I promise you, of the dozens of calls that I've made,
from January to now, with guys in the league,
general managers, personnel directors, scouts,
all over the league, there isn't one person I've spoken to
that believes that Drake May
should be drafted number two over Jaden Daniels.
I even talked to teams, going back to February, where teams were like,
yeah, we're still debating between Caleb and Jaden at number one. Okay? So that first tier
has been for teams has always been kind of Caleb and Jaden. And then the second tier is Drake.
And then the third tier is Jaden McCarthy. And then you get into the fourth tier where you can
start talking about Michael Pennings and Bo Nix and those guys.
Yeah. I also think Cliff Kingsbury as the OC in DC, I feel like Jaden Daniels would
be the guy that he would want easily over Drake May, right? With the system that he
runs?
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I can see that. I think when you look at the system that Drake came
from versus the system that Jaden came from,
the two years that Jaden had at LSU,
the mobility that he provides as an extra element,
Cliff and what he was able to do with Kyler
and what he's always wanted to do in his system
didn't always in college have mobile quarterbacks,
but that was it.
I remember sitting in Cliff's office talking to him.
The next evolution for him was finding more mobility at the quarterback position.
Because everyone was like, well, it's all air raid. It's Mike Leach and all that stuff.
Really, that all transformed from the Mike Leach system to, you know,
to what we've seen go on at Oklahoma and then USC recently.
Like, Lincoln Riley adjusted it where you have like the guard tackle,
backside pulling and more physical and then adding that element of the,
of the quarterback run.
We saw a little bit with Baker, more so with Tyler.
And that's what, what Cliff saw going to Arizona was like, wait, I can run what
we run, we could be more physical in the run game, but we've got a quarterback
that's going to give us numbers and get us out of trouble. That to me is the pinnacle
of where they want that system to be. And that's what Jaden provides. And Drake is mobile,
but he's not Jaden.
Right. Yeah. Jaden's special. And you're right. I feel like if you're running the air raid
system, it's great to have all those shots downfield, but it's also great to have a quarterback
that if those are covered you get an easy
Ten yards and I guess Jim Daniels was electric in college. We watched all these games
We sat down we watched the tape Todd or we know you know we we grind right you guys have evolved
Yeah, I don't think the Josh Allen here you guys were studying the tape. Oh you hit your head on
Yeah, lots of tape measure on his hands
the tape you hit you hit on yeah lots of tape measure on his hands you felt you guys felt it felt like a highlight real organization yeah now i see you guys with the coach coaches
now we're now we're different so sometimes better be lucky than good with josh allen
year yeah so on the tape that i've i've studied with jayden daniels i noticed his elbow is
kind of fucked up is that a problem at all is any team out there looking at his elbow
and they're like that elbow is too weird to be a quarterback It is weird. Yeah. Have you ever seen elbow like that?
My favorite I don't know if you've been on Twitter
But do yourself a favor if you want like 30 seconds of a laugh look up Jayden Daniels and looney tunes, okay?
Okay, there's it so what I forget who did it. I wish I wish I had it on me, but that someone put together a
There's someone I forget who did it. I wish I wish I had it on me. But that someone put together a real of all the plays were because he gets whatever.
Yeah. And he gets car crash. Yeah. When he when he gets hit, he gets flailing arms, legs, like limbs everywhere. Yeah. So it's not awesome. If you're a general manager, right? Like, we're gonna have to learn to slide a little bit better and make better decisions. But it's worth a 30 second left. That's what some people in DC are a little bit gun shy about.
And I get it because we still remember the RG three years where he did not learn how
to slide.
And when he got hit, he would get hit.
He was very, very bad at protecting himself.
And actually the wounds go a little bit deeper in DC.
You can go all the way back to Jason Campbell. And he never learned how to slide either.
And he was a first round pick.
So a lot of people in DC are a little bit afraid
of getting a quarterback that doesn't
know how to protect themselves.
Here's the difference between Jayden and RG3.
RG3 was a track sprinter.
Everything was straight line.
He was a 4'3 guy.
His burst, when he caught a crease, he could go.
But if you really study
him, he didn't have much wiggle. He wasn't the twitch guy, the snap guy. So to me, like
when you watch Jaden, he's both, he's fast and quick. And that will allow him to protect
himself.
So there are a lot of guys in this draft that are declining workouts for whatever reason.
They've got their own plan that they want to put forward. They're confident in their
tape showing it to general managers.
They want to let that speak for itself.
My question is how in depth are GMs getting and front offices getting when they break
down film of a guy where they don't have a 40 time on paper for him?
Are they straight, are they comparing him on the field to players where they know that
guy's 40 speed and they can kind of extrapolate what the true numbers for this prospect are or how important is it if a guy
chooses not to do those specific drills? To be honest with you, like if you're going to be a
top 10 pick and scouts and GMs around the league will hate me for saying this, if you know, like
if it's certain you're going to be top 5, 7, even top 10 pick,
and you're not competing with one other guy to go, you know...
Like, Marvin Harrison Jr., I think Malik Nabors has a chance to be more dynamic and explosive,
but Marvin Harrison Jr. is the most NFL-ready player at any position in this class.
Marvin Harrison knows if he doesn't go number 4, he's going to go number 5.
Overall, he's going to very likely be the first non-quarterback drafted in this class, right?
So what would you rather, let me ask you this,
what would you rather this guy who you're going to make a 30 plus million dollar investment on for the next five years
and has to show up and be ready not only for two years down the road and that five-year investment,
but right away we need this guy to be ready.
Would you rather him training in a facility in Arizona or Florida,
working on his box jumps and his, you know, his get off speeds,
take off speeds in the in the 40 yard dash?
Or would you rather him like like Marvin Harrison Junior has been
working with NFL veterans to continue to polish his route running
and work on his
certain aspects of his games, flexibility, all those so that he's ready for week one
more so than all these rookies. Talk to rookies halfway through their rookie year.
And they're like, I'm exhausted. I wasn't in the football shape that I'm always used to being in.
It wasn't a year-round training for football. It was training for the Olympics, right?
And so to me it only makes sense. And the other thing that people get get mixed up on this
40-yard dash is great for television and there's absolutely there's there's credence and value to it, especially in positions like wide receiver and cornerback.
But today like it's so different today with the catapult system the miles per hour that we have and And that translates to me. Like, I'm not saying we're ever gonna get rid of the 40. I don't think that that's where we're headed at all
because it's another opportunity to see
apples to apples comparison.
But I now not only know what top speed is,
but how fast they get to top speed.
I know how fast they practice.
I know how many steps they take.
I know everything about the movement of every player
that I'm getting ready to draft
because you're not just doing it in the NFL college programs
you're doing it from the day they step on campus.
Yeah.
Yeah, it makes sense.
It does feel like we have more data than we've ever had.
All right, so Drake Bay is going to go to the Patriots,
even though Hank, our draft expert here on PMT,
says that he wants Marvin Harrison,
and he doesn't care who's throwing to him,
that it will work out.
So after that, I think the intrigue in the top 10, and correct me if
I'm wrong, is where is J.J. McCarthy going to go? And like, so give me your J.J. McCarthy
take and then tell me where he's going to go because he is confusing in the fact that
we saw him play. He was phenomenal when he was asked to throw. He was not asked to throw
a lot. And it's a typical like guy who,
you know, if you ask four months ago, he's a second rounder. Now he's being
talked about as the fourth pick overall. So what tell us the JJ McCarthy story
and where you think he's going to end up. JJ McCarthy has all the traits. JJ
McCarthy is a winner. JJ McCarthy, a year ago we were worried, is he big and
physical and strong enough? He's put on 15 pounds in the last year.
He's got the kind of frame,
he'll continue to get bigger and stronger,
and he's been durable.
JJ McCarthy can process quickly enough
and will continue to get better.
And if you watch him throw it,
here's the big thing.
Here's how I would break it down and try to simplify.
Everything you need to see from him, you can see, especially now with the cut-ups and the
third down and seven plus and all, you can find everything.
But whereas for Caleb Williams, who's got more starts and was throwing the ball more,
and for Jaden Daniels, a lot more starts and was in an office that asked him to carry the team more.
You're going to see 40 clips of one thing over the course of his career. JJ, you might only see 10.
So it's a volume thing. How much volume in that catalog are you able to see? So is there risk in that? Absolutely. And the other thing, and when I talk to teams in the league, I always ask, how's this guy going to succeed?
How's this guy going to fail? What would be your concern in drafting him? I always get the same thing.
It's the lack of volume. I wish I could see more of these certain red zone, first down plant, certain things that Michigan just was so committed to the run in their system. So it starts with the volume
and then the second thing that I always get is there wasn't a quarterback, you know, no other
quarterback in this class had the supporting cast that JJ had and then the pushback is well wait a
second, JJ's got two first-round wide receivers he's throwing through. Yeah, but look at the
protection, you know, the Joe Moore, you know, offensive line, the best offensive line in college
football two years ago, they didn't win it this past year,
but should have won it.
We saw that against Washington, which wound up winning,
you know, how much more efficient and physical
that offensive line was.
So protection was there, system protected him,
defense was phenomenal the last two years for Michigan.
So he was never put in a Caleb Williams situation
where we go out and score 40
We might lose right, you know
So those are the two things that you debate there if you're looking at the big picture now Caleb's going one
Jayden should absolutely go to Drake may is most likely gonna go three to New England
I think there's a like a big time outside the box scenario where New England tries to move down, move back up, gets kind of crazy with it.
But Robert Kraft is going to make sure that they get a quarterback that's exciting for New England moving forward in the future.
So let's assume those three come off the board.
Arizona is sitting at four.
Monte Asifov, the GM, has shown that he likes to move around.
He did a lot of that last year.
But they've got a bunch of picks.
And so I don't know that moving back necessarily helps them.
And when you get to know Monte and what he looks for
and the physicality and looking the part
and all those sorts of things,
I just think that the Marvin Harrison Jr.
makes too much sense.
They need a weapon.
They've got their quarterback that they're gonna ride with
for a little while because of the contract situation and what we know we can even do in selfie so I think they stick it four unless
they get a phenomenal offer I think Arizona sticks to four and takes Martin Harrison jr five though
is where the move is going to be made yeah in my opinion the Chargers won out Jim Harbaugh wants
offensive line and and Joe Ortiz the new general manager, came from the same tree
you know as Joe Douglas did with the Jets. They were all in Baltimore with
Ozzie Newsom and Ozzie's big thing is always let's sit let's sit tight,
trust our board, the player if we have to draft there we don't get a good deal we
know that the player we're gonna get there is a good player but let's wait
for a team to panic and And let's exploit them.
Think about all the moves that Ozzy did,
moving back, exploiting teams
that were in a panic in that 10-15 minute clock.
And that's what the Chargers are going to do.
And Minnesota is the most likely team, as we know,
sitting at 11.
And obviously, the 23rd pick,
the trade they already made with Houston.
So they have the picks the package to move up
They'll have to probably give away at number two worst case in number one next year
but I think Minnesota is a team that moves up and goes and gets JJ McCarthy and and
JJ has been tied to them for a long time and by the way, I get news for you with their play calling
With with Justin Jefferson with the protection they have I would say
even though I think Caleb's better and I think I think Jayden's better I think
Drake may has a higher upside JJ McCarthy could have the best rookie year
of all the quarterbacks if he lands in Minnesota that that's the most desirable
spot for these working quarter. Oh wow. Interesting so who's the who's the first
defensive player to get drafted? I'm glad you asked that
Good job, thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you Dallas Turner the edge rusher from Alabama is where I've had more time this year to read all these mock drafts
It's kind of comical
That makes you is like wow, this is what I've been doing yeah
And then also it's fan fiction. It's fan fiction for guys. It's, it's the best. I love it. I love it. And I got news for you. Everyone like NFL teams try to, you know,
this macho thing where mock drafts are ridiculous. Well, there has been a general manager I've talked
to that doesn't have some sort of system where they take the three or four mock drafts that they
trust the most, put it into some database and plug it out and utilize that to try to figure out
what other teams are doing.
So it is a tool used in the NFL.
But what I'll say with the mock drafts is
everyone has got Dallas Turner,
the edge rusher from Alabama going eight to Atlanta.
Like if you line up all of the mock drafts,
eight to Atlanta.
And maybe he is the first defensive player and maybe that's where Atlanta goes.
They certainly could use an edge.
But the more people I've talked to in the league,
the more I get the sense that Byron Murphy defensive tackle from from Texas could be and I don't want to say he's most likely.
But if there's going to be a surprise in the top 10 is Byron Murphy.
Okay, teams teams are looking for interior pass rushers. There's
so few impact. Just thinking in the top of your head, how many elite impact interior defensive
linemen and pass rushers are there? Aaron Donald was one. Yeah, he retired.
You can get to five, six, seven in that range where you're like, yeah, that dude, we got to
account for him. And so Byronron with his quickness and power,
and just the way he penetrates and disrupts,
I think that he's going to be a major impact player.
He's ready to play right away,
and teams are looking for that.
So I don't know if it's, you know,
Tennessee surprises at seven, Atlanta at eight,
Chicago at nine, even though everyone's mocking a wide receiver.
What if M.H if MHA Malik
neighbors and Romo Junze are off the board, which the absolute, I mean, the giants, we
know Arizona, um, the charger chargers could take a wide receiver, but I think they trade
out the giants could take a receiver at six. The tightness could take a receiver seven.
So all three of those receivers could be off the board and Byron Murphy could be the picket
number nine, uh, for the Chicago Bears.
Okay.
What's crazy is we're talking about all these great players and there are a lot of good
ones, but to me, the guy that is going to be, maybe have the best career out of all
of them, we haven't even said his name yet, Brock Bowers, and it feels like Brock Bowers
is, people are penciling him into the Jets right now.
Is that going to be a pick where he falls to like number 10 and everybody's like, ah, shit, Brock Bowers, they got him. We should have taken him earlier.
Yeah, it absolutely could be. It could be brought it. Here's the tough part with Brock Bowers.
The tape is phenomenal. He's one of the five or six best football players in this draft.
Everyone would agree. Right. But he looks like a, like a tall banker who like played you know
played in a fraternity like basketball you know yeah league and he just doesn't
look the part didn't work didn't run the 40 because he had the injury and did the
recent like Georgia makeup pro day and did all the position drills but so you
don't have the 40 on him he doesn't look the part he's coming off the injury and
most importantly all those things aside because I think tape wins out on him
The tight end position like this is this is an investment and you're invested in quarterbacks
passrushers wide receivers now
Which wasn't always the case but wide receivers because the game has changed so much
Playmakers and then guys who can cover those those playmakers at quarterback
Yeah, and so are you willing to take a tight end who's not going to ever be a great blocker,
doesn't necessarily look the part, all the physical traits is up there with everybody else?
I think that's the question. But then I look at the Jets at 10, right? I think for Joe Douglas,
again, we talked about we talked about Joe Ortiz, the new GM of the Chargers with Jim Harbaugh,
and how I would bet money that they move out of that number five spot.
The Jets don't have a second round pick and that's not a comfortable neighborhood for Joe Douglas to be living in right now.
Okay? He also needs offensive tackle. They brought in a couple 33 year olds or whatever their ages are as band-aids.
But what if one of those guys gets injured,
and the history says that one, if not both,
of those guys are going to get injured.
So they want to draft an offensive tackle there,
but you're sitting at 10.
You don't have a second round pick
because we traded away as part of the Aaron Rodgers deal,
and we don't pick again until the third round.
So I could see the Jets moving out of 10.
Now that doesn't mean that Brock Bowers won't still be there
if they make a deal to move back.
What if JJ starts to fall?
And you've got the Raiders at 13.
I don't know if they would want to move up.
But certainly the Broncos at 12,
even though they don't have a second round pick as well.
What if they can move back two or three spots?
I still think Bowers, if he doesn't go 10,
the next place I would look at would maybe 15 to the Colts,
17, no, 14 to the Saints, 15 to the Colts, that range.
So maybe the Jets move back and still are able to get Bowers
or maybe the Jets move back and get an offensive tackle.
Because if it's not Joe Waldo in Notre Dame, there's six or seven offensive linemen
guys that are tackles that could move inside that are going to go in this first round.
One of the best offensive tackle classes I can remember in the last decade.
I love to hear that.
The Brock Bowers, the mistake Brock Bowers made was taking that picture next to Gronk.
If he didn't take that picture next to Gron I think everything like everything would be fine that one picture
Wait, yeah that guy that guy was what he was in the league. That's what it's supposed to look like
Who's that who's that and he was wearing the black shoes too that made him look like yeah, it's like yeah
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All right. So you said something there,
the wide receiver class, it used to not be something
that teams would draft as high as they're drafting.
Now it's just every year gotta get one of these guys.
It's, from all I've read,
one of the best wide receiver drafts.
You have Marvin Harrison, Aduinze, and neighbors.
Who though, after that is someone
that you're very high on that might be in the late first
round, early second round, that teams can be like, look,
if we don't get one of these three guys, we can wait
and we can get a really, really good wide receiver going
forward.
I think it's going to be another year we've
seen this historically.
I think it's going to be another year where there are two or three
guys in the second round that go that wind up being more
productive than one or two guys in the first round. Yeah. Really do. And I
believe strongly in Marvin Harrison Jr. doesn't have the twitch and kind of that
after the catch ability that Malik neighbors has, but Malik doesn't have the
size of Marvin Harrison Jr. But they're both gonna be absolute stars in the NFL.
Romo Junze is gonna be a damn good player.
Devontae Adams is probably the best, is the best case, but he's that kind of
player, okay. After that you've got A.D. Mitchell from Texas. I think Brian
Thomas would probably wind up being the other LSU receiver, probably being
the fourth receiver off the board. Xavier, Xavier Mitchell, Xavier
Worthy, sorry, the other Texas wide receiver. Those are the guys that I think will wind up going in
the first round. But I'm telling you right now, Lad McConkey from Georgia is so dynamic in terms
of his route running ability, ability to separate, and after the catch ability, and the consistency with his hands. Ricky Pearsall from Florida is the best route runner in this
class and everyone's like, yeah, well, he's not overly fast. He's not dynamic and explosive.
We ran a 4-4-1 in this 40-yard depth, right? And he had a 42-inch vertical. You can't tell me he's
not explosive. And so, Lad McConkey, Ricky Pearsall, Xavier LeGette,
Xavier LeGette from South Carolina is a player that I look at like,
I can get him in the second round.
And so, to me, here's how it's going to play out.
All these receivers, the top three receivers are going to come off the board quickly.
But there's a bunch of teams that have tackle and wide receiver as their top needs, if you will.
If I look at it as a combination of the two, like combo picks, I call them, right?
Arizona picks at four and 35. I think they're going to take Marvin Harrison Jr.
But wouldn't you maybe rather have Joe Walt, the best left tackle in this class,
and then get a Xavier LeGette in the second round? Chargers five and 37.
Again, they could move out of that spot.
But what if they take Joe Walt instead at number five,
and then at 37 you get a Lad McConkey.
The Giants at six and 47.
They traded out, they gave their pick away to Carolina
from 39, but they have the 47th pick.
So in another trade.
That's another team, Tackle Wide wide receiver, the Titans seven and 38.
So there are four teams there.
It's gonna be interesting to see,
are we just gonna get the best wide receiver
and try to get tackle in the second round?
Or do we realize there's a hell of a lot more depth?
Cause everyone's talking about how great
this tackle class is.
And it is, I mean, you've got Joe Walt,
Tulisa Fuaga from Oregon State,
Oli Foshano from Penn State,
you got J.C. Latham from Alabama,
Amarius Mims from Georgia,
Troy Faotanu from Washington,
Tyler Guyton from Oklahoma.
All those guys that were going in the first round.
And then there's kind of a significant drop off in the second round.
So while we're all talking about wide receiver
It won't shock me if the tackles go faster than expected and then there's a big run on receivers late first or second
Yeah, Zave you're worthy to to Las Vegas. That's just seems like a great fit if we're going based on like history of teams
Drafting based on specific rates you can tellate. If Al Davis was still alive. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would just love to see that. I would love to see the Ouija board that they have
set up in the draft room. Tell them Xavier worthy no matter what. Yeah. Las Vegas. Yeah. So what
about Cooper DeGene? We've taken an interest in Cooper DeGene. Player comp in the NFL. I've got
Jason Sehorn and then those snaps where Julian Edelman played
defense. So he's going to be a first rounder, right?
You guys are solid.
He's going in the first round.
He's going in the first round. He just had his makeup pro day, if you will, at Iowa ran
a four in the low four fours, depending on the scope you talked to. He's a great player.
He's a versatile player. He can play slot.
He can play outside corner.
He can play free safety.
He might be an all pro punt returner too.
I mean, this guy, he's a difference maker.
I think you guys can do better with your cops.
Okay. Okay.
I think you can dig a little deeper.
Chris Conti?
I have like almost a more mobile read dowdy. Hey, was that, what, what did
teams think about the letter he sent? Kind of a try hard move. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Did
he actually write a letter or was it an email? Uh, that I don't know. I believe it was a
letter and an email is what is my understanding. Okay. Okay. Um, all right. So I got another weird question. This, this draft is going to be significant
in the fact that we could finally see Sean McVay take a first round pick. Will that happen?
It's crazy to say, but Sean McVay has never had a first round pick, uh, in the draft.
Uh, they've traded a million times. The last first round
pick the Rams had was Jared Goff. That was Jeff Fisher. So will they actually take a
first round pick this year? Will they actually select in the first round? And does Sean McPhee
even know what to do with that?
I mean, it's really more or less neat. I mean, it's them together. Less need the general
manager is a good bottom line. He's and I love the, what was it? F the draft. Yeah. Fuck them. Fuck them picks. Yeah. Fuck them picks. Um,
I can see them packaging picks and going to move up. Oh, you know, like get rid of some
more picks, right? But what about quarterback for the Rams? Oh, interesting. So, so are
Bo Nicks and Michael Pennings like there?
It feels like one of the two of them is going to drop. Yeah, I think he's going to, I think
Michael Pax is going to go in the first round and I don't agree with it. I have a second
round great on him. I think he, I think he has starting caliber. He's the best pure passer
in this class. That's what we said about CJ Stroud last year, but CJ Stroud didn't have the durability issues.
CJ Stroud, even though he didn't like to run,
was more mobile.
Like I said, with every general manager I talked to,
it's how is this guy gonna succeed?
And we know he's gonna succeed, Pennex is,
if he has great protection and good weapons
and can throw down the field.
That's where he excels.
How's he gonna fail though?
And as a scout,
you better be prepared to walk into the GM's office
and say, give me the reasons why he would fail
and what we would have to do to prevent him from failing.
Well, we got to see in a two game span, right?
In the CFP semi-final and the national championship,
how he's gonna succeed against Texas.
Protection, deep ball, when everything's right, he's gonna be able to pick you apart. And then we saw how he's going to succeed against Texas. Protection, deep ball, when everything's right,
he's going to be able to pick you apart.
And then we saw how he's going to fail.
Mix up coverages, confuse him,
make him stay in the pocket a quarter count longer
than he's comfortable.
And it's not that he can't read,
he can read as fast as any one of these guys,
but it's the lack of mobility in the pocket
and then the durability.
And he's tough as nails.
He fought through that game, but he took too many hits.
And I think that's gonna happen in the league.
And I worry about him holding up.
But he's had the multiple knee injuries in the past.
But at the end of the day, it's interesting.
When I talk to people in the league
at the end of the season,
let's go back to the beginning of the season.
Coming into the year, day three guy, okay?
End of the season, third,
fourth, that range. Then it was, as the coaches got involved, it became absolutely second
round. And now as we get close and everyone's looking at it, you're starting to hear somewhere
in the first. I've even heard rumors, maybe the Raiders at 13. That's too rich for me. But I think Michael
Penick's goes in the first round. Bo Nix is fascinating to me. Now I was talking to Kiper
about this the other day. Like Bo Nix, everyone puts him at 12 to the, and again, I'm reading
too many mock drafts this year because I'm bored at times. Bo Nix is going 12th and Sean Payton comparing him to Drew Brees and the running in college, the hand span.
I've heard some of the most ridiculous things.
But Bo Nix, if he doesn't go 12 to Denver, is a second round pick according to everybody.
Well, I talk to people in the league and everyone across the board and it's the same thing as I see.
He's a backup. he's a great guy unbelievable interview you know son of a former player at Auburn
the coach all that like he's been around the game he's tough he's everything you
look for from a character and leadership standpoint but talent wise I don't I
don't see a first rounder so to me Bo Nicks belongs in the second round I
think there are five quarterbacks that are going
to go, Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake May,
JJ McCarthy, and Michael Penix.
And I think round two is where you'll see Bo Nix.
That makes sense.
All right, so who's your favorite first round pick
that no one's talking about?
Because we've obviously heard all about the quarterbacks.
We've heard all about the wide receivers.
We've heard about the top end offensive tackles.
Who's the guy that you keep looking at and you're like,
whoever gets this guy is going to be just so, so happy.
I mentioned him before, but I'll go back to Lad McConkey.
OK.
But he might not go in the first round.
So who else?
I'm going to say he's going in the first round.
Oh, OK.
Braden Fisk from Florida State, defensive tackle, short arms, no one likes him.
Might go early second, so he doesn't fit what you're saying, but I think he's going to outplay a lot of guys that go ahead of him.
I think he's a star.
I would say guys that are definitely going to go in the first round that are overlooked.
I gave you... Cooper Dushin,
I'm just looking down my list.
Quinian Mitchell's got a lot of love.
I mean, there's a lot.
How about Nate Wiggins, cornerback Clemson?
Okay.
Burner, everyone sees the 428,
I think he ran a 428 at the combine,
but he pulled a muscle when he did it,
and that's what you worry about, these quick twitch guys.
But the thing is that he's not just a speed guy.
He can play off coverage, press coverage.
He can play zone and man.
I think that Nate Wiggins is going to wind up being a really good cornerback.
And this is a good classic.
Terryann Arnold from Alabama.
Kool-Aid McKinstry is going to be late first, early second round,
also the Alabama cornerback.
Quinian Mitchell has had a phenomenal past couple of years great at the senior bowl
Exceptional combine workout. He just nailed the whole process
So those guys are all going to come off the first come off the board in the first round with Cooper de Jean as well
But Nate Wiggins could wind up being what the third fourth corner back? And I think he could wind up being maybe,
I don't wanna say the best,
but maybe the second best quarterback in this class.
And I think he's ready to start right away,
even though he's only 173 pounds.
I like the answer, because we just need one guy
that when he gets picked, we can be like,
oh, that's actually an incredible pick.
Great value.
Yeah, we know, Ball, I have a random name for you.
I don't know if PFT knows this,
but we have another Danny Woodhead who's
going to get drafted. Dylan law out of New Hampshire.
You guys are really honest on this. Yeah. I've done my research.
Yeah. Dylan law about a new Hampshire caught 68 balls in 10 games as a running back. Is
he, where's he going to get drafted? And is he the new Danny Woodhead?
He could be. And the only reason I say that is not because the color of his skin.
You guys are really focusing on that.
No, no.
That's about the catching pass.
I didn't even know.
Is he a white guy?
I mean, look it up.
OK, hang on.
Wait, stand by.
When I watch the tape, I don't even notice.
He does happen to be white.
I had no idea until he said that.
Dylan?
Dylan.
Yeah, Dylan.
Out of New Hampshire.
All right.
So we're off of that angle.
No, it's because of the pass catching.
He's like a receiver out of the running back spot.
I like, he had a great week in the senior bowl, productive, tough.
Some of his, if you go back and study his take to some of his best production was in
the biggest games against the best competition.
I think he's going to be a, it's an interesting running back class.
He's not going to be a first rounder.
I think we could go late into the second an interesting running back class. It's not going to be a first rounder. I think we
could go late into the second round before running back is taken. Jonathan Brooks should be the first
running back off the board coming out of Texas. I think there's going to be a bunch of guys in the
third, fourth, fifth round range. I would say worst case lob is going to be six, but I honestly
think he could go in the fifth. Okay. And then sticking on running backs, where's my guy Braylon
Allen? Like I hope he does well as a pro. He needs to, obviously he's not a the fifth. OK, and then sticking on running backs, where's my guy Braylon Allen?
I hope he does well as a pro.
He needs to, obviously, he's not a great pass catcher.
But I weirdly want him to go to the Chargers,
because I feel like Jim Harbaugh would just be like,
all right, we got this beast.
We can just run the ball right down your throat.
Some teams will like him more than others.
And I think, yeah, Harbaugh, I think
teams that are gap power scheme want to run, want to run the ball north, south,
give him 15 carries per game as a backup.
It's rotating in and out.
He makes sense.
I don't love him as much as some other guys do.
I just think it's a league where you've got to be able to catch.
You've got to you've got to have something dynamic to create on your own.
I know he generates yards after initial contact with his power.
I think to me, he's a fourth round draft pick.
Best case, he goes in the third.
OK.
All right.
All right.
I love this time of year because we
get the anonymous scouts that are leaking things
all over the map.
We get stories of, like I think it was Justin Blackmon,
where one team had a scout that spent a week in a bar,
just to see how many times Justin Blackmon showed up
to that bar.
What's the weirdest story that you've heard of in terms of evaluating a player before
the draft happens where a team is thinking something really strange outside the box to
figure out whether or not this is going to be the guy they want?
Oh, geez.
Yeah, I mean, I've talked to scouts that have had to spend like a week in a small town.
And they're also, here's the thing that always surprises me.
NFL teams have their security groups, right?
And typically they're former FBI guys.
And the lengths in which they go and they send it,
like it won't be the director of security,
but they'll send out one of their guys
and like literally
Follow them
You know like like he's a suspect in a case. Yeah that to me is like
It's pretty amazing that they will go to that like if they're considering first round, but we have concerns
You know, let's follow him around and see what he's doing because there is this free time
You know, and we saw that with Sweatt and the defensive tackle
from Texas.
It's kind of this free time where the pro days are done,
some of the individual workouts, your schedule is done.
And now this is this free time where you're not training
for the combine anymore.
We've seen year after year,
players tend to get in trouble during this period,
like the two weeks, three weeks leading up to the draft,
because they finally can go
settle down and they're done with the pre-draft process. And so, yeah, I think former FBI
guys sending members of their staff to go literally follow like they're a criminal.
Like good fellows, like the helicopter following them around.
Yeah. Yeah. I've only heard in cars, but maybe the helicopter's been.
That's crazy. So on that same note, if the Laramie Tunsel draft happened today, would
any team drop him at all one or two spots off their board because he was smoking weed
on camera?
Well, the thing with Laramie Tunsel, it was when the information came out, right? And
it was obviously, we know the whole story now,
being a former handler, a guy who thought he was gonna make some money off of him,
got pissed off and leaked it purposely that day,
so that teams didn't have time to get to call their security group
and to go and get the answer.
So it was like everyone was,
basically everyone in the top 10 was on the clock trying to figure it out.
Yeah.
And so they didn't have the time.
If it happened today, first of all, I think we've come a long way with smoking pot, right?
Yeah.
I think it's viewed very differently now, so I don't think it would be nearly...
I don't think you would drop it all, just to give you a quick answer.
Yeah.
It wasn't necessarily the quote unquote crime as much as it was the timing of the incident
Yeah, yeah. All right. I got a couple last questions
So in a war room on draft night is there how does it?
How does a good draft room work where the GM he's got his big board
Is it so that a guy could stand up and be like look?
I'm for my reputation on this guy like do each of the scouts have a certain amount of guys where they will stand up and
be like, I want this guy.
I'm telling you it's a good pick.
So that's done before.
None of this stuff is done.
What's going on in the war room is the calls from other teams, figuring out who's coming
off the board, moving the players with their magnets off the board
and all that stuff.
So at that point, everything's set.
Right.
Okay.
But the meetings before, some of the stories I get,
and I can't share a whole lot,
but some of the stories you get with like,
you hear the pounding of the table,
it's really just yelling and screaming across, you know,
and teams got to the point, you know, a couple of decades ago where it got so heated that teams were like,
all right, listen, you know, whether it's like a red dot player or a star player,
depending on the team, you get a sticker and each scout gets to go up and whether
it's one, two, three guys, depending on the organization and put a sticker on
that one or two guys from his area
or the positions that he did. Because the scouts, you gotta remember, all these scouts get to know
these players, almost like you're recruiting them in the house, know their parents, know where their
agents are, know all the background. They've done so much work on them personally. They get to really
know the individual. And there are certain guys when you're done, and I've evaluated now in my region, 500 players,
and whittled it down to like 100 guys that could be,
you know, that we're presenting.
And then the team only has 175 guys or 150 on our overall board.
But once you set the board,
and there's less than a couple hundred players on that board,
who are the guys that you're going to red stamp or put a star on? And that kind of, when hundred players on that board, who are the guys that you're gonna red stamp
or put a star on?
And that kind of, when you're on the board
and all of a sudden, let's say you're in the,
pick 20 and 19 guys come off the board,
it's typically not a first rounder.
It's much more like second, third, fourth round.
But now we've got a cluster of five, six, seven guys
with the same grade.
And if position value, like if they don't have such a need
and it's really about taking the best player,
they'll look at that and say, you know what?
Sammy, our Southeast scout, swears by this guy.
You know, we'll put his reputation on the line.
That's where that stuff happens,
is like two weeks leading up to the draft.
Got it. Interesting.
What's the spread like in a draft room?
Like do they eat dinner before they get started?
Do they order pizza?
Good question.
Thanks.
There's, listen, I've been working at ESPN.
I know our spread, if I'm just going to be honest, was lacking.
But we would order lunches and dinners, sandwiches and stuff
like that, and you just never want to eat anyway until it's
done.
And if you're Kuiper, you don't need or take a sip of water. Yeah
72 hours so but in the in the draft from like it there's there's food outside of the war room and then there's snacks
It's big snacks. Everyone talks about what the snacks are. It was the best
Yeah, you know your lobby for what snacks you want. Obviously, there's a hierarchy. You have a big board. Yeah
It's it's three days and like You know, in your lobby for what snacks you want. And obviously there's a hierarchy. You have a big board. Yeah, you have a draft. You're in there.
It's three days.
And like, what else?
I mean, you got your diet sodas, you got your coffee,
and you get your snacks.
It's just you and your snacks.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd be standing on the table for Dots Pretzels.
I'd be like, bring in the Dots Pretzels.
Yes, yeah.
Swedish fish, yeah.
Give you a little change of pace. Like it's all about relationships.
You got to know who's pulling the trigger. Who's making that decision. Like if I'm talking
to GM about this or do we have like a director of ops? So yeah, you've got to make sure
you know, have a good relationship with the guy who's making that decision because now
you're looking at 72 hours of your life. Yep. And if you get shitty snacks, snacks that you don't like, you're in a spot. I have like character concerns
about Papa John's pizza, but I could work around those if the ceiling's high enough.
Yeah, yeah. Right. Exactly. The breadsticks are better with the dipping sauce. Yes. Yes.
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new that just shocks you.
So you can tell me if this is wrong or a little off.
Mel Kuiper doesn't own a cell phone
and he has five house phones?
Yes.
So let's pull this up, you ready?
What?
Let's pull this up.
What?
Kuiper.
All right, so I don't know if you can see.
Yeah.
Probably can't, I don't know.
I've got one, two, three, four different numbers for Mel.
And if I want to text, I was
just texting the other, if I want to get through to Mel, look at all these texts.
Right? What are they? They're just, you just said,
It's to Kim. It's to Kim.
Oh, okay. All right. So it's just to his wife.
I asked him, I asked him, I said, you know, I want any chance I could talk to Mel.
I'm doing something with Mel next week. Let's put it that way.
I don't want to go into too much detail.
And Kim writes, hey, hey, Todd, how are you?
Yeah, I'll ask him.
I'm sure I'll get back to you today.
I'm like, all right, great.
So like I've got to work through it.
I always busted him on that.
And the problem is you call the house and Kim will pick up and like, hey,
and I'll talk to Kim for like 10 minutes before
you can get to know. And then that will pick up from a different landline. Right. It's not like
a cell phone at home. It's like back in like the eighties where it's like you hear another phone,
Hey, Todd, how are you? What's going on? You know, it's definitely a throwback to our, to my childhood.
I don't even know what it was. Yeah, no, yeah, house phones for sure. You guys had landlines and all that? Yeah, landlines, big time. I just picture Kuyper
like pacing with the core getting stuck around him. Yeah, and it's just, it's crazy to have no
cell phone but five landlines. Yeah, that's wild. I wonder if he even has wireless phones or if
they're just cordless. Oh. I mean cordless or has the core that like you said gets wrapped around because what
I'm telling you, like, cause I've been talking to Mel a lot recently. It sounds like he's
picking it. You know what I'm thinking? Yeah. Yeah. It's not like that click in the beep
like that. Yeah. It sounds like he is picking it up. Yeah. I think I'll get to the bottom
of it. Yeah. I'll shoot you a text. Yeah. I'm pretty sure his hand is going down. He's
picking it up and there's a cord. I love that. Incredible. Well, Todd'll shoot you a text. Yeah, I'm pretty sure his hand is going down. He's picking
it up and there's a cord coming. I love that. Incredible. Well, Todd, thank you as always,
man. We really appreciate it. You're the best and we're excited for draft. Yeah, let's go.
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Let's wrap up the show and there's one other thing that we didn't talk about with McShea with the draft that I meant to
mention last week
It's also related to Topgolf, which is a good sponsor
Yeah, did you about how the commanders did their visits with all the top prospects? Oh and Topgolf? I think they had 20
with all the top prospects. Oh, in top golf?
I think they had 20 different guys.
I like this.
But what they did was they took all of them
to top golf at the same time.
And they just watched them play top golf.
I like that.
And watched them compete.
I like that.
So we had like Jaden, Drake, JJ, all those guys
just playing top golf and evaluating them.
I'm gonna wait to see how this plays out.
Yeah.
To determine whether or not I like that or not.
Yeah. But it's still kind of a- Watch them compete. I guess it's... JJ was
there? I think so. Shut the fuck up. Oh no. I'm just... Oh Hank, you and your little smug
face. He's feeling himself. Yeah he is. I was just clarifying. We can't do a podcast
when you have a double win weekend. Yeah, the double win weekends are just really talking of this. Yeah
Yeah, you're feeling axis nodding. Yeah violently. Okay, mr.
Pear try to win one pick challenge
That's all he's gonna do is try to win one fucking pick this stupid fucking turtle now
I thought we were talking about the yeah the play-in game technically the stats don't count so mr.
Pear you could say zero and zero zero and zero if you want to give him that excuse
I personally don't believe in excuses. I think we got to switch to puck
Well, we're gonna do puck too. So he's got the Knicks and Sixers out there right now. We're gonna see what he does
While we wait for max to set it up. I
Had a hypothetical for you guys
Just a crazy hypothetical.
You ready for it?
If you could pick any decade that you could live in instead
of this one, what would you pick?
Hypothetically?
Hypothetically.
Mm.
I think a couple spring to mine.
Wait, wait.
Any decade?
Any decade. Like, you want me to go first first the 1215s would be pretty cool. Yeah the 60s
I would go 1830s with no racism
Okay, I
Just think that would rock don't you guys what happened in the 1830s?
Just no racism though going towards the Sixers. It's going towards the Sixers
You would you guys say that's profound by me?
Would you say that's like almost poetry?
I think it's, yeah, that's very deep.
Yeah.
Why, who said that?
Taylor Swift.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's one of her lyrics.
You know what?
My friends used to play a game where we would pick a decade we wished we could live in.
Instead of this, I'd say the 1830s without all the racists and getting married off for
the highest bid.
Okay, so here's the thing about that.
Uh, what?
And they'll let us down.
Oh, he went Sixers.
I want to Sixers hard.
I want to get back to Taylor though for just one second.
If I could do the puck, do the puck, get the puck.
So why didn't she just say like the entirety of the sex is the world without racism?
No, she mentioned sexism. Why is she only getting married off for the highest? like the entirety of the world without racism.
No, she mentioned sexism.
Why is she only getting married off for the highest?
Why is she only getting rid of racism in the 1830s?
Good question.
Like some may say it was worse in the 1840s.
Yeah.
And then now that decade is just super racist?
Also, if you got rid of it earlier,
maybe you'd get rid of a lot of other bad shit.
You know what, I would get rid of all the racists. Yeah well she did say Rick. Yeah I'd say the 1830s but
without all the racists. Okay. What a what that's a beautiful line. Racist in the 1820s
poet wiping the brow. That was a close one what are you saying max
Hanks help
So mr. Parris pick the sixers I did listen to the Taylor Swift album in its entirety I listen to some of it. I think he meant you must have missed that banger of a line
I did miss that one banger
Some some of the songs kind of sound the same
Some people were saying, not me, that it was mid.
Some of the songs, I can't tell the difference.
Yeah.
I'm like, oh, did I already listen to this one?
But that was like three songs ago.
Well, if you have 30 songs, do you have an album?
I thought it was great.
Was the GTA line true?
It is very funny watching people like, like just say I saw some people just
Say like I'm a huge Swifty. I love all her music. I did not think this was a great album and people just fucking
Ruining them just ruining them. I am
Listen, she's versatile. Okay, she can do pop she can do R&B
She can do country maple leafs name one other female singer that can do all three of those things incredible artists
It's okay if she didn't have hungry not everyone has the best albums all the time
She said touch me well, I don't know should touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto
Another poet that's a that's a bar. That's a poetry line. Did she really say that?
That's poach. Yeah
Are you are you sure?
Yeah, someone told me that last night who I wasn't sure if that was, you know, I believed
him or not.
Canucks won.
Okay, I'm looking at...
I'm gonna have to...
I'm checking this right now.
So Mr. Pear has the Maple Leafs and the Sixers.
Oh no.
Didn't Hank say they're the same team?
Yeah, they are. Oh no. Mr. hang said it was the same team. Yeah. They are. Oh no. Mr.
Pair might stay here loves. Yeah. Mr. Pair fade parlay. Uh huh. Yeah. Fade the turtle.
I'm going to give Mr. Pair one more shot. This fucking idiot. We can go back even Steven.
Look at him. He's fucking eating. Mr. Pair look at me, bitch. You gotta win. He's gotta
win.
You know how to ball. I know Aristotle. Brand new. Full throttle.
Was Aristotle?
Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto.
Was Aristotle a pedophile?
Probably.
All those guys were, right?
All those guys just like, they just hung out at the pool and just got sucked off by little kids
Mm-hmm
Damn and now with that those are the smartest guys the smartest guys ever smartest guys ever yeah literally ever yeah
Yeah, that's what we're taught. Okay
make sense
Mr.. Pair I
Like that that we're like roasting Aristotle well
We have a fucking dude turtle pick games for us.
Those morons!
Aristotle's overrated.
Socrates, now that's a thinker.
Plato, what was he, he was a pedophile?
Probably, yeah.
One of Plato's dialogues says Socrates took a youth's question only to bet him later on
the age of the young man would be disputed.
This fucking guy!
Plato almost certainly didn't because we know from his writings that he only he thought only heterosexual sex is truly beneficial
Aristotle probably didn't yeah, but he you can be what is pet is pedastry the act of being a pedophile
I think it's yeah, this is actually on the time that pet is I think that's starting to go
So I'm not gonna get most philosophy. Yeah, you go get your like you get your degree in pedastry. Oh
Stoic was a was a philosopher. Yeah. Makes sense. I
know. So is a philosophy stoicism. I don't know. Maybe there was a guy named Stoke Epicurus
and the Stoic and the Stoics. Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to get like, I want, is there one
written about Aristotle is a definite no. He came from Macedonia and was a Paul by the Macedonia
Have they ever like there had to have been one dude in that crew
Who just wasn't smart enough to come up with something really awesome like well I think I think that dude was Alexander the great because they taught him and then he tried to
Like rephrase what they said and became like a philosopher king, but everyone was just like, Oh yeah, you're so smart because he would have killed him if. Yeah. But I,
I like, I'm saying like I'm not even a king. Like one of the, like, there's probably like
a fat dude like named Doug, who was just like, what about this Socrates? Like, nah, bro.
He don't got it. I want to know his story. Yeah. He's just like, I failed. He was like he was he was gonna be next up and he just could never quite
He could never quite get it all together like the class clown in there how much like Aristotle must have hated anybody that made jokes
During his class. Yeah, that was cooler than him Socrates and Plato are famously known for not cheating on their wives
Dad that sounds like
Yeah, who wrote that Socrates? known for not cheating on their wives. That sounds like they definitely cheated on their wives.
Yeah.
Who wrote that, Socrates?
Well, they probably were like, it's not cheating on my wife if it's a kid.
Yeah.
They probably had stupid rules like that.
I spent the entire last summer not cheating on my wife.
Hank, maybe we need Hank to just give us philosophy 101.
If David Stern was in a class with Socrates and asked him, have you stopped beating your
wife yet?
Yeah.
Socrates' brain would have exploded.
Yeah.
Like, I have not even thought of pondering such a question so smart.
And then Doug in the background would have been like, no, he beats her every fucking
week.
Yeah.
Like, shut up, Doug.
What the fuck, man?
I'm trying to do some philosophy and diddle some kids alright
Numbers was Socrates gay well he gave me a BJ at a gay club in Athens
Eight
Forty did you say 20 I did say no guys three uh
2018 what was what was the turtle numbers of 73 73 99 put 21 Jordy 40. That didn't answer that.
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