Pardon My Take - Shane Gillis In Studio, NFL Rule Changes, Shohei Speak + Mad Online

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

NFL league meetings this week and we have some big time rule changes (00:00:00-00:20:47). Shohei finally speaks to the media and we talk Sweet 16 and Caitlin Clark (00:20:47-00:41:25). Hot Seat/Cool T...hrone including Flaco the Owl had pigeon herpes and Robert Kraft is trying to find the guy who made a negative Patriots documentary (00:41:25-01:05:38). Shane Gillis joins the show in studio to talk Football, hosting SNL, comedy, Notre Dame and tons more (01:05:38-02:02:34). We finish with mad online (02:02:34-02:13:49).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take the long awaited Shane Gillis episode Shane joined us in studio when he was in Chicago can't think of enough he is the busiest man in America right now. He is the busiest man in America right now. I think he's America's podcast guest and he was nice enough to do it. Everyone's asked him to go on the podcast and he was like, you know what? I got to do your guys. So shout out Shane. Awesome interview with Shane. We're going to talk NFL league meetings.
Starting point is 00:00:37 We got new rules that are going to be weird. We'll talk a little college basketball, Iowa, going to the Sweet 16, maybe a little preview for Thursday night, what we got on tap. We got Hot Sea Cool Throne. We have Mad Online, which also might've been part of your take. We got a little confused with that. And before we do all of that, DraftKings, the thrill and excitement of March mania is here in DraftKings Sportsbook, one of America's top rated sportsbook apps, is giving new customers a shot to turn five bucks into $150 instantly in bonus bets with any
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Starting point is 00:02:19 and responsible gaming resources. Okay, let's go. It's Part of My Take, presented by Varsity Sports. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. New users can get five bucks, turn five bucks into $150 instantly in bonus bets only at DraftKings Sportsbook with code TAKE. Today is Wednesday, March 27th and PFT, we've got some new rules to be mad at. RIP the swivel hip drop tackle Ah, you want to start there? Let's start there start there because as we told you on the show the hip drop tackle banding
Starting point is 00:03:32 That would be a massive massive mistake. I miss you agree, right? Oh, it's a mistake for many reasons yeah, the first reason in my mind is we have just added a Rule that is going to be debated similar to can't land on the quarterback. There will be a big, big game decided by the hip drop. What is it? What's the penalty now? Is it 15 yards? I actually don't know if it's 15 yards. I don't either.
Starting point is 00:03:56 They kick him out? It feels like 10, 15. They did it in the name of player safety. They said they banned it, but we don't know what the- I don't think it's an ejection. Yeah, it can't be an ejection. But way there will be a moment where this happens and it will end to drive and people are like this is fucking bullshit that was football and It's just another thing in the line of NFL tinkering with the game and making it worse Well, they're making it
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's such a subjective call because you have to have like certain elements that are involved in the the speed that the games played out you're gonna have referees that are like I think that was a hip drop tackle I'm not really sure and to me I think one of the biggest things that are not looking at with this is that it's it's a penalty that can be affected by the offense so like the quarterback getting landed on by defensive player that's all on the defensive player at least right yep but if somebody's getting tackled and you're trying to fight through the tackle and you shift your weight and you hit the guy back, you can throw the guy's body around
Starting point is 00:04:52 and put him in a position where now he's making a hip drop tackle. Yes. And that's the way that he brings him down to the ground. At that point. Yes, by by letter of the rule, it is a hip drop tackle. The other thing is, you're going to have the most annoying people in the world screaming hip drop. Yeah, at the TV screenshots screenshots a hip drop tackle. The other thing is you're gonna have the most annoying people in the world screaming hip drop Yeah at the TV screenshots screenshots of hip drop tackles. You're gonna have people I don't want to name any names But we sit next to a guy on Sunday's named Jerry when the Steelers have the ball every time somebody makes a catch
Starting point is 00:05:18 He's gonna say hip drop. Yeah, hip drop and not only that but to player safety So there were a couple injuries this year with hip drop tap 15 15 The hip drop tackle was used to 230 times last season okay 15 players got injured also It will be a 15-yard 15-yard penalty okay potential fines as well, okay? So that that's good to know so that will it will it will decide a game at some point this year but similar to when they changed helmet to helmet, head hunting, all that stuff, which was good, the waterfall
Starting point is 00:05:55 effect, the rundown effect, is that the right word? Waterfall effect? Unintended consequences. Unintended consequences, thank you. The unintended consequences is guys now have to go after people low and at their knees. And so you can't hit them above the shoulders. You can't hit them like super low, but like there's nowhere to hit guys. And now you're taking away another use for the defense, making them even more difficult. I think it's going to probably add they're taking away injuries and there'll be injuries because of that. Yeah. Cause think about this. You're a defensive player. You tackle somebody around the waist.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Sometimes you end up landing on their legs, even when you're not trying to do that. So guys are, I don't know, are they going to stop trying to wrap up around the waist and instead just go for a shoestring? I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. But I think it's a big mistake to put a rule in place.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Because the hip drop tackle, it wasn't a thing until like a year ago, year and a half ago. How many people get injured? Yeah, when you land on somebody's legs, they probably are gonna get injured, but guess what? You get injured playing football. Yes, it is a violent game.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I also think this now makes the tight end position even more valuable because a lot of the hip drop tackles are defensive backs, smaller guys, getting beat a little bit and trying to slow down a bigger guy with a hip drop tackle where you try to, you know, don't ride on top of them and let them get a couple extra yards, try to stop his momentum and bring them backwards. Now that you can't do that, I think tight ends are going to eat in the flats. That's actually a good point.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Yeah. Because like you, how are you going to tackle a tight end? Right. So it's like now every team should have the biggest strongest tight end that can then you can't tackle them Once he gets by you or even when you get parallel you can't tackle. Yeah, you can't how do you attack? How do you hit a guy from behind now? I don't know the NFL doesn't want guys riding dudes from behind I actually you know what it might start happening is well actually no it's tripping but it would be funny if they just started if we just
Starting point is 00:07:44 Accidentally made soccer. Slide tackles. And people did slide tackles on tight ends. Yeah. The ref should get cards. They should get a yellow flag is 15 yards, a red flag is you're rejected. Yeah. So the other rule, which is going to be weird to look at, but I'm actually in favor of this
Starting point is 00:07:57 one is they changed the kickoff rule. Shout out our guy, Sam Schwartstein. This is actually his baby. He created this in the XFL. They tinkered it with it a little bit in the NFL, which is a perfect NFL thing that Sam we know Sam well and we've had him on the show. He, uh, he spent like years working on this, testing it, doing all of the data and everything. And the NFL just like watched one PowerPoint. We're like, all right, we're going to do that, but we're going to change it. not realizing
Starting point is 00:08:25 that everything that Sam did was for a reason. So they tinkered it, and they took away where the ball ends up. Sam had made it to a point where it's like, this is how you can get it so that people will always return it. And you get the return back in the game, they changed a little bit of it so that might not happen. Well, what the NFL did was they made kickoffs so shitty for the last couple of seasons that now we're welcoming anything that involves a return.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Yeah. So the, the, the history, so people who are mad, let's start with this. It's going to look fucking weird. If you watch the XFL, it looks weird. People will be mad week one. It looks weird. Like, cause you, you have guys, you have both the offense and defense or the you know, the the return team in the kicking team Standing ten yards away from each other down the field and no one can move until the ball is touched. Yeah hits the ground
Starting point is 00:09:14 So it's gonna look weird. Yeah, and you have you have the return team They like backpedal five yards seven yards to wherever their spot is that they're set up to block and it doesn't look like a kickoff Because there's no big collisions. Yeah, And that's what we've seen over the years. I just think people are good. I think people are going to actually like it. I do too. The one thing that the XFL did that everybody was like, yeah, great job, um, was hire kickers that are podcasters. The second thing they did was they had a return game that looked unusual and it offered like chances for reverses. And so there are going to be some teams that go like full heads, full steam ahead into figuring out how to optimize this kick return
Starting point is 00:09:51 that will end up winning games because of the work that they did in the off season to take advantage of the rules on the kickoffs. Right. There'll be other teams are just like, well, this is weird. Let's just try to run a normal kick return play. Right. And it's so for people who are going to be like, oh, this is weird. I don't like it. I would just say that what the NFL has done in the last 10 years, I think 2010 was when they banned the wedge. So starting in 2010, they have essentially killed the kickoff because they banned the
Starting point is 00:10:18 wedge. They banned running starts. They moved the kick up, and then this last year, then they moved the touchback to 25, and then finally this last year they added the fair catch, which essentially just killed the kickoff. There's no reason for you to return a kickoff. That's right. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:10:39 The NFL, it was a good job on their part in the long term to make kickoffs unwatchable and so shitty that now they add any sort of element that has a return game in it and people are like yeah this rocks now. Yeah I do think people like it. The numbers are so less than 20 years ago in like the 2005 season 95% of NFL League kickoffs were returned. It has dropped basically every single year. You can see when the rules come in how it drops when they move the ball up and they ban the wedge.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It's dropped all the way to 37.6 was last year. Kickoffs returned, and I think it even dropped more this year to like 20% or something around there. I want to see kickoff returns. Yeah, we're going to get kickoff returns. We're not going to get surprise onside kicks anymore, which sucks. Even though it only happens a few times a year, I like the idea of a surprise onside kicks anymore, which sucks. I like it, even though it only happens like a few times a year, I like the idea of a surprise onside kick. I'm okay with the surprise onside kick as well,
Starting point is 00:11:28 like being banned, because they brought back the unbalanced line. Oh yeah, you know, of course. So the fact that we can now have more onside kicks actually be recovered. Yeah. And it's kind, there was only two last year. There was two surprise onside kicks in the entire season.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I get it, the most memorable one of all time is the Saints in the Super Bowl and everyone's like, we lost this moment. I understand that. But the fact that they made it so that you could never return an on-site kick, it was something crazy, like less than 5%. I want there to be a chance that you can actually return an on-site kick again. So if we have to give up surprise on-site kicks that only happened two times a year, I think I'm okay with that trade. can actually return an onside kick again. So if we have to give up surprise onside kicks that only happen two times a year,
Starting point is 00:12:05 I think I'm okay with that trade. No, so the imbalanced line, did they put that out like a few weeks ago, right? Yeah, well today's when they're voting on everything. So yeah, the imbalanced line, I like that make onside kicks a thing again, because at the end of a game, if you try to recover when the game's over,
Starting point is 00:12:19 you have like no hope. I feel like it always happens where they try to do the onside kick and either it doesn't go 10 yards or it just goes out of bounds. Or it goes directly into someone's hands. They should make it also illegal for the receiving team to swat the ball out of bounds on an onside kick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And then recover it. I mean, I do think the perfect answer for onside kicks is you should just have it be a fourth and 20 play for offense. Yeah. Because everyone would love that. They might do that at some point. I think the Ravens were trying to do that. Yeah, they were. They put that out there. But but yeah, I I'm okay with the trade
Starting point is 00:12:47 I'm gonna miss surprise onside kicks because they are like very electric But if you tell me that there's a 15% chance now you can return onside kick I think that's something I would take just for the fact that you still have hope at the end of a game So I don't know if that's the trade-off. They mean I think the trade-off actually is since they changed the normal kickoff rules They had to then change the surprise onside kick because the way the players are set up now You can't do a surprise onside kick right because you have to declare. Okay, we're setting up in this normal What is now the new normal position? But I think they kick it deep started talking
Starting point is 00:13:20 Like you said they started talking about the onside kick thing a couple weeks ago and it was like, we're taking away surprise onside kick, but you now have to declare and you get an unbalanced luck. Yeah, yeah. So there's actually no way that you could do a surprise onside kick if this is the new normal kickoff rule. The one thing that is going to be interesting, and I love the strategy behind all of this because I was talking to Sam earlier and congratulating him and he's like, the only thing that I didn't plan for is
Starting point is 00:13:45 these kickoff rules with Tyreek Hill speed. Yeah, so if you if teams start putting just their fastest guy back there It's gonna probably be most likely like they get to the 30 or above every single time and then will it just be Well, we'll kick it out of bounds. So is this so it it just goes back to touchbacks. Is this giving us maybe an edge? Maybe just take all the overs? Well, the ball placement will be farther out there. Yeah, more points. Yeah, I'm in for it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you're the Dolphins, you absolutely do need Tyreek Hill returning kicks now. Because think about where he's starting, and it incentivizes kicking it in bounds. And you know, down the middle. And also, there's two returners now. now because think about where he's starting and it incentivizes kicking it in bounds and You know down them and also there's two returners now. Mm-hmm. So you can have two returners back there Well, I guess they always could but you can That's different than the XFL XFL only had one which definitely is advantageous for the returning team as well The one rule I don't like that needs to be changed is that you can't advance a recovered punt
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah, why not? you can't advance a recovered punt. Yeah. Why not? Why can't you? Yeah. Like how many times does that happen where a punt like hits off a dude's head, somebody picks it up and then they run with it to the end zone and then for a split second you think you have a touchdown then you remember oh shit we gotta bring that back. Yeah, I always get confused with college. Yeah is that college that I'm thinking of? Do I know ball? I'm pretty sure that's college. I think it's both. Is it both?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yeah, someone fumbles a punt and you recover. I think if they fumble, if they have possession, then you fumble, you can pick it up and return it. But if it's a muff, I don't know if you can. College, college and NFL have to get on the same page. Because we're going to watch old school kickoffs in college. And although I do like how college has one foot in bounds. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Because then when a receiver gets two feet in bounds, you're like that dude can play at the next level. Can someone look it up for us? I know you can't return it in college. Yeah, I'm looking for something definite, but I don't want to speak without. No, speak without it. We just literally just spoke without knowing it. I typed in advanced punt football and the first thing is a Reddit thread. Why can't
Starting point is 00:15:50 a team move on advanced and muff putt and Reddit CFB? You can't. So I don't know. Type in best muff closeups. See what that comes up back with. I think that'll tell you Jake. No, I think they can't Are you serious? Yeah, just have burn his computer got him company computer There's all I think you're right. I don't think you can there's also a rule change in baseball that they have been discussing I guess in the weeks leading up to the the start of baseball season guys can't gamble on their own team
Starting point is 00:16:25 They're heavily considering reinstating Pete Rose before they announced the show. Hey, Otani. So yes No, the the thing to look at probably for next year because we're talking about robot oomps I just heard this right now on the radio one of the systems of thinking about and I love this They're thinking about giving teams three challenges for balls and strikes per game now They're thinking about giving teams three challenges for balls and strikes per game now That's not that cool. What makes it cool is that the batter has to decide whether or not to use a challenge They do this in Sink in in single a and double a and maybe even triple. I I've seen this before I was awesome because it's instant Yeah, I love the I love the player having to decide like you don't you don't have a save them
Starting point is 00:17:01 You don't have a manager that somebody is on the phone with them for a replay that saw it upstairs. It's like you're in the batter's box. Did that look outside? And it's great because I've watched it happen. I don't remember what league it was, but it's not slowing down the game because the batter just taps their head, ump turns around. It's like a green or red light and then they just keep going.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Do they have a flag? I don't know if they have a flag. That would rock if there was a flag. But yeah, it's very, whatever league is doing it, because I've seen this video, it's very efficient and it adds great, I'm all for these type of rules that add strategy. Yeah. Because like when are we going to burn these? Oh, another NFL rule that's being changed is the replay assistant can correct certain
Starting point is 00:17:43 types of incorrect calls for roughing the passer and intentional grounding So if there's a hit on the passer, I'm okay with and it's not helmet to helmet The replay official can instantly be like not a penalty pick that flag up. I like that. I like that That's a good one as long as doesn't slow down the game I think that's because that's one of the calls that just is very subjective and pisses everyone off. Yeah single year So yeah, look, this is the the video right now This is one of the calls that just is very subjective and pisses everyone off. Yeah. Every single year. So, yeah, look, this is the video right now. They're showing it.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yeah, he just taps on his head. Yeah, the catcher can do it too. Okay, so the catcher or the pad gets it. They just wave up and then he calls it. It's maybe three seconds. Yeah, I like that. It's awesome. What are the teams playing in this?
Starting point is 00:18:19 That's the Tampa Tarpons, which I believe is the Yankees' single A. Okay, it's the single A's been. Look at that. Shout out to single A. Just pushing it, pushing us to a better sports world. I'm okay with this. We also had in the league meetings, Jerry Jones is just losing it. His scribble. What'd he do? Did you see the picture of him? No, I haven't getting Oh my God, let me look it up. He was answering questions and I think diagramming the Cowboys being all in and then someone zoomed in on his piece of paper and he was just scribbling nothing.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That's relatable though. It is, but it also is very funny because that's his plan for the Cowboys being all in. It looks like he tried to draw a clock seven times. It is very relatable in that we, who hasn't had a piece of paper and a pen in front of them and just start making scribbles every I mean this is great for for anyone who's really talented at Photoshop. Yeah. Put this one in the memes department for next
Starting point is 00:19:13 season. Yeah. He's just scribbling. I would have killed him to do little 3D box or the Superman s. Come on man. Oh the the super s., the power S is the best. What if he just accidentally did a swastika? What if he's like, what is cool design? Wait, I'm zooming in. Is it one? Oh, there is some writing on there. Yeah, I'm getting there. Me, you just sit back like a boss.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But yeah, we have that we have the league meetings, which I love just a bunch of football guys walking around in a hotel in Orlando. Somewhere in Florida, yeah. Somewhere in Florida, just deciding the fate of the league. I also, the vote for the new kickoff, I think there were three teams that didn't vote for it. Packers, whatever. I mean, they probably did a fan vote on Twitter, losers.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And then the Raiders voted against it. So immediately I was like, this is a good rule. Yeah. Mark Davis is like, I don't like this. Well, I think Mark Davis just votes against anything because that's what his dad used to do. Who were the abstain or the, I know it was Raiders Packers.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I don't know who the third team was, but you can kind of tell once I saw Raiders, like yeah. Niners. Niners. That's interesting. They also- They are smart. Niners are smart. That kind of throws off my interesting. They also- They are smart.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Niners are smart. That kind of throws off my theory. They also moved back to trade deadline. I'm not sure why they did that. To when? I think it's week nine. Okay. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Trade deadlines- Probably still won't be a lot of trades. It's so arbitrary, yeah. And they're also just the NFL just doesn't have a lot of trades. No. But it's actually nice that we can talk about, like you can convince yourself that your team will do a trade. Yeah, well, it's bad for shitty teams,
Starting point is 00:20:46 because shitty teams then, you have another week of being like, can we do this? Yeah. Another week of false hope. Winning right before the trade deadline is a death. OK, let's talk some other sports before we do that. Uber Eats. Uber Eats, you can get almost, almost anything at Uber Eats.
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Starting point is 00:21:24 Order now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details. Hank, one, two or three topics. Two. Two. Caitlin Clark wins her last game. Her at Iowa down to the, they're going to the Sweet 16 in Albany. I actually watched that entire game. It was electric I loved West Virginia just being like we're gonna be the bad boy Pistons and just muscle you but yeah, congrats to her that would have been a Hilarious hilarious ending if they had lost that game. It was actually a really really good game Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:01 and it also gave some ammo to people that think that this is scripted to get the rematch of Iowa versus LSU would that be in the lead eight lead eight when they play each other there were a lot of fouls called at the end of the game a lot of a lot of fouls a lot of them intentional a lot of some of them intentional saw some people posting like in the last three minutes West Virginia foul got called for seven fouls Iowa got called for zero they were intentionally fouling the last minute they were fouling yeah I don't think I will get called for seven fouls. Iowa got called for zero. They were intentionally fouling the last minute. They were fouling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I don't think Iowa got called for a single foul though, right, in the last maybe two minutes of the game? Yeah. There were a couple that could have been a foul. But Caitlin Clark, not only did she win, she also got the all time points record with those final two free throws on a hilarious foul by West Virginia that meant nothing.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yes. But meant everything to some of us. And hit the over for her points. Yeah. Shout out Caitlin Clark, her. But yeah, imagine if they had gotten bounced. Did you see where she told her home stadium to shut the fuck up? I love how much Caitlin Clark is like, she, let's just admit it.
Starting point is 00:23:04 She's an incredible player. When things aren't going well, she has a little bit of baby in her and I like it. I like it. There was a great take, I forget, I don't have it in front of me, but the person wrote an article about this and they said, why do we vilify Caitlin Clark
Starting point is 00:23:19 for making big gestures like this? And we talk about her and we have all these judgments about her, but we wouldn't do the same in a million years for players like Dennis Rodman or Pat Beverly. Yeah. Yeah. You missed on that one. We definitely do the same.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I mean, if you were alive in the 1990s, half of the sports ecosystem was talking about Dennis Rodman. Every single night. Yeah, I hope Iowa fans, because Iowa fans are very protective of Kate and Clark. I completely understand. She gets attacked a lot, so they have to always be guards up. I even started a little, should we have the debate, Pagie Buckets versus Caitlin Clark? People were not happy with that, me just throwing out the debate.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Oh no, but you're not alone. G-O-R-A-M-A said if we're going to live in an age of advanced analysis and statistics, well then we have the best player because all the numbers say she's the best. And Paige Buecher did have like a, she had some very bad injury luck in her career. But so Iowa fans are very protective, completely understand. I just hope that they can have a little sense of stepping out and being like, yeah, maybe she does have a little bit of baby in her, which I like. Again, she's a competitor.
Starting point is 00:24:28 She wants to win so badly. But yeah, it was a great game. So she threw the basketball into the stands after the game was over. And it was Nancy Lieberman, former, was she a coach or a player? But she said, if a guy does that, no. If a guy does that, nobody says anything. If Pat Beverly does it, or Russell Westbrook, or Dennis Rodman does it no Cooper if a guy does that nobody says anything if Pat Beverly does it or Russell Well Westbrook or Dennis Rodman does it nobody gives a shit. No, no, I would I would give a shit
Starting point is 00:24:50 We analyze literally everything that LeBron has ever done his entire life if LeBron did that it would lead first take Undisputed for three months. Yeah. Shout out the Kittles were there too. Also LeBron. Yeah, he really got into a tight Jersey It was it was his wife's yeah yeah but yeah if LeBron did that and I was in the stands and got hit I would check myself into a hospital I'd be in a neck brace yeah Oh Hank did you watch the game no oh you don't like women that's not true well why didn't you watch the game then? Name one woman. Caitlin Clark. Oh, nice. Name one woman not named Caitlin Clark. My mom. That's a good answer.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Good answer, good answer, good answer. All right, so other stories. Should we talk a little about Thursday night? Because we're going to obviously record after Thursday night, after we watch the games. Very, very excited for this Sweet 16. The dust has settled a little bit, and I just couldn't be more excited for the sweet 16. The dust has settled a little bit and I just
Starting point is 00:25:45 couldn't be more excited for the eight games we have on Thursday and Friday. I'm most excited for UNC Alabama. UNC Alabama is going to be incredible. UConn San Diego State being the rematch from last year's championship game and Danny Hurley finding a way. He is a master motivator being like, we got screwed with the time of this game. Yeah. He says that the committee has done everything that they could possibly do to not let them repeat. Yes. And I know-
Starting point is 00:26:09 But their game is at 639 Central Time, so 739. That's a bad time. They knew what they were doing. Also, just gonna say it, they're on TBS True TV, Arizona Clemson's on CBS. Isn't that weird? That is weird. That's a little weird. You're gonna try to get away with something.
Starting point is 00:26:25 They're just anti-Italian discrimination again. True TV. Nobody knows what channel True TV is. No one knows. I am rooting for Illinois, no offense to Iowa State, but Illinois-UConn Elite Eight would be an incredible game. That'd be a good matchup. Because I think Illinois has that one, like the fact that they have three studs that could
Starting point is 00:26:42 go off at any time. I still think UConn's the best team and they can, any problem you throw at them that they have three studs that could go off at any time. I still think you cons the best team and they can they any problem you throw at them, they have a solution for. But that would be a game that I'd be like, this is going to be a war. And who knows if Terrence Shannon or Damascus or Coleman go off like I'm just I'm excited for that game. But yeah, Alabama, North Carolina is me. Great. Yeah. so who do you think is most likely to win amongst the underdogs on Thursday, Clemson or San Diego State? Cause I'm not- Illinois.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I'm not gonna say Illinois. Yeah. And I'm not gonna say Alabama, but the real surprising ones would be Clemson or San Diego State. San Diego State. You think would be most likely? That's my prediction. Oh. Revenge.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I think Clemson is most likely cause Clemson has been ignored by this podcast. And if we know anything about this podcast, we are the dumbest people in the world. So when we say we put out that graphic listing every team but Clemson as teams that could win the national title. They have that bookmark. That will be the perfect ending to March Madness if Clemson wins it all and we just have that sitting there. That would would what do you think? The numbers would get on that graphic
Starting point is 00:27:47 There'd be tens of thousands of retweets and quote tweet. Yeah be pretty big. It'd be pretty big But I might be rooting for but we could also give ourselves credit for for like spurning them on to the national championship Yeah, we do the we do the Long Beach State. Yeah, it was us. Yeah, it was us We were the ones who got them. Yeah, listen, I didn't I I didn't, I'm not going to sit here and say that I did that on purpose, but it worked out the way I wanted. Yeah. I will say the number one overall seat has lost in the sweet 16 the last two years. Bless you. Thank you. Bless you. Kizaga lost to Mus in Arkansas two years ago in the sweet 16. Last year, Alabama lost to San Diego State. San Diego State.
Starting point is 00:28:27 It would be something if Yukon just rolled through this tournament, covered every spread. Well, do you see Dan Hurley close? Just like they did last year. Bless you. We're going to keep blowing these teams out of the tournament. I love it.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Good. Yeah. Hank, are you OK? Yeah. Maybe allergies, I don't know. That's not allergies. You're sick. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I hate allergies for that reason. What are you allergic to? I don't know. I just sneeze three times. That's not allergies, you're sick. I hope not. I hate allergies for that reason. What are you allergic to? I don't know, I just sneeze three times. That's not common. Cocaine? No. People should have to wear pins on their shirt. Wait, Hank, how do you know that you're allergic to cocaine?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Maybe I'm not, I don't know. It is the, like the changing of the seasons is when allergies. I understand, but do you not agree that people love to do the I'm like are you sick? No, I have allergies They should have to wear pins that say like I'm an allergy person So, you know like alright if they sneeze it's probably allergy how you guys in the beginning, you know I'm an allergy person when you tell the difference in a sneeze between allergy and sick. Yes, cuz you sound differently Oh, what did that sound like Hank sounds fine? No like talking. Oh you sound sick
Starting point is 00:29:26 Do you have allergies? Well like allergies to the seasons like you know pollen and show you are allergic Seasons not a thing you're just saying you're allergic to being alive Hank doesn't have allergies. He just said allergies Well, yeah, the, you know, pollen and yeah, no, I don't know. You're not allergic to those things. Hank, you're not an allergy guy. Yeah, you're not. You're a strong man. I can smell allergy guy. Jake, Jake's an allergy guy. Max sneaky allergy guy. Big time. Uh, we were, we were talking about Cologne the other day and Jake, Jake was like, I think I'm allergic to Cologne.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I don't know. I don't feel sick. Yeah, that checks out with me. Yeah. No, I don't care if you're sick or not. I just, it's been a take for a long time that I just, I think I'm allergic to Cologne. I don't know. I don't feel sick. That checks out with me. Yeah. No, I don't care if you're sick or not. It's been a take for a long time that I just, I think people use allergies as a crutch, which you just literally proved it. No, and it takes away from people who actually have allergies. Yeah, right. You just took their culture and tried to pawn it off.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I apologize. It's like real allergy people are like TJ Watt. Are you guys so far into allergies that you what max you're now great? There's a great podcast. Yeah, no it is what if you're here for Shane Gillis will be done with allergies in a second Uh, are you guys do you guys check the pollen report like Oh surfer would check like big waves? No, I just know I've got allergies and so you're not like oh shit pollens high today. Got to stay inside. No, I just know I've got allergies and so you're not like oh shit Paulins high today gotta stay inside. No, I Like those allergy people are freaks Are you believer in like the people that say that everyone's allergic to everything but just some people are more mentally tough
Starting point is 00:30:55 Yes, because I'm not Yeah, I have an issue. No, I think it's mental. No, it's not. I just I'm built different my brains are different I went to I went to um, I went to a museum the other day. It's a color factory in downtown Chicago with the kids. And my mom was with us and she's allergic to shellfish. And they they said in the front there because there's like snacks and the person was like, is anyone allergic to anything? She's like shellfish. And the person responded, you should be okay. That shouldn't be the answer. That's good. You should be okay. Shouldn't be an answer to that question. Yeah. Shellfish is one. It was the color factory. Yeah. You should
Starting point is 00:31:32 know if you have crabs. If there's like, oh yeah, we'll skip the sea life exhibit. You should be okay is not an okay answer though. I was roommates with a guy in college that had a severe, severe shrimp crab allergy, but he loved shrimp and crab so much So once a year he would just eat shrimp and then just shoot himself up with shots He's just like fuck it tonight's the night I think there was a I can't remember which bear it was who didn't want to do the conditioning test and he just ate a Bunch of shellfish before the conditioning test because he was allergic. That's awesome Yeah, but yeah the and then there was a little girl who's like who said penicillin I was like what the fuck how are you alive?
Starting point is 00:32:07 also, like yeah, what is isn't penicillin like a Something like treated polio with but I would I would feel like the genetics that would get passed down to the generation with penicillin If you if you were allergic to penicillin in like the 1600s Yeah, 18 probably 1800s when they discovered it you probably would have died Yeah, that's just not an answer though to like a five-year-old should say yeah, so yeah Like you're probably scared of everything. Yeah, they're like the one thing that's supposed to save you scared half. You're scared of medicine Yeah, okay, so that was allergy talk That was number three on my topics
Starting point is 00:32:41 Shohei I Believe him okay. I don't know why. The way that he's presented it. I actually think it's genius. Yep. Because there's not going to be any chance that they can prove that he's lying. If he, if, if I think they can, if him, did he say he stole from me? He said that this guy stole all the money from me without my knowledge. If he says that and the interpreter also says that and it turns out that like maybe they are lying about it. Maybe Shohei knew about it. But as long as they stick to those stories, you can't prove it otherwise. I think you can though. How? Forensic accounting. You can say that that eBay logged in. No, I know I'm saying different like Shohei is now going down this path
Starting point is 00:33:26 Where he's like this guy stole from me. Yeah, they're gonna get a forensic accounting and they're gonna show This is how this guy stole from me. Yeah, and if they do that and it's like dude, no one stole from you I think he'll be in deep shit, but I think he's I think they're gonna take that path Also, I just love the idea of forensic accounting don't understand it at all, but it sounds cool. That was my question. You kept saying that word. I saw the word. I saw the word.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I saw someone tweeted the word and I was like, ah, of course, forensic accounting. They do forensic accounting. I'm pretty sure law and order does forensic accounting sometimes. Yeah. I mean, it will solve every problem here, forensic accounting. But even if it shows his computer was used to send the transfers, he can always just say like, hey, logged in on my computer. But I think if that is the case, there will be a lot of questions. Like I think the forensic accounting will come back and be like, look, he stole from me. He did it from his own device. Yeah, yeah, he siphoned it off. Think
Starting point is 00:34:17 about it. When you, when you do a money transfer, if it's a big money transfer, you, your bank sends you a text message and says, verify this big money transfer using this code that we just gave you. So I don't know if he also had access to Shohei's phone. So that was the other part of it. Reading up more about this guy, there was a quote from a couple of years ago where someone interviewed him and he said, translating is only 10% of my job with Shohei. He was like his best friend.
Starting point is 00:34:45 He was doing everything with him. Remember, was Shohei in the Home Run Derby? I think he was. He caught for Shohei in the Home Run Derby. He would do long tosses with Shohei. He would go out to dinner with Shohei. I think he was so deeply embedded that it was like almost a brother relationship. And then it would make sense that he was so deeply embedded that it was like almost a brother relationship.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And then it would make sense that he was able to do it. And Shohei, it also, people were able to figure out Shohei for the longest time had his mom do his accounting. So it's not like Shohei has been maybe the most, he's maybe been a little too trusting of people in his life and not had someone else do all this stuff. So it leads me to believe this potentially could happen. So Ipe also has another discrepancy on his resume. So in the angels media guide, Ipe said that he graduated from UC Riverside in 2007. The school has no record that that happened.
Starting point is 00:35:37 So this guy just might be a liar. Right. But is it baseball has his hands full? Yeah, I think and I know this might be a cop out, but I just think like I'm going to believe him until they do the forensic account. I'm waiting for the forensic accounting to come out. So Shohei, I'm a big believer in it. Shohei also is going to have some trust issues with his next interpreter. I would say so. Because this interpreter played the interpreter game very, very well. If you're trying to be sneaky, just like he exploited a weakness in the interpreter system, which is you have one client, you can lie to that one client about what everybody else in the world is saying. And you keep that person.
Starting point is 00:36:15 At some point, maybe the power went to his head and Ipe thought, I'm Shohei. Yeah, well, he also said he was Hideki Okajima's translator for the Red Sox in 07, and that just wasn't true. No one for the Red Sox in 07 and that just wasn't true. Oh no one from the Red Sox remembers him he's not in any of the these are just Like he had a different translator that was in the media guides and the more I was reading about it, too it again, I know I might be naive believing Shohei, but the Situation that Shohei is in being in a country where he does not speak the language and he has one guy in the clubhouse who he can converse with, you would end up becoming
Starting point is 00:36:50 very close with that one person. That's the only person you can talk to. Right. That's a crazy thought experiment to be like, I only have one guy in this entire world, you know, obviously his family and stuff, but one guy day to day when I go to work that I can speak with, that person would just become your best friend yeah and I think that I think Shohei needs two translators now at all times I was just hoping they can like standing next to each other then you tell me what this guy just said to me
Starting point is 00:37:15 yeah and you both have to say it at the same time I was hoping so bad that Shohei sat down and just spoke perfect English would have been fucking awesome Kaiser Soze that would have been good yeah. Kaiser Soze. That would have been good. It would have been great. But yeah, I think his new translator is, it was Kente Maeda's translator who then worked for the Dodgers front office. So possibly more trustworthy. Just the idea of four and a half million dollars,
Starting point is 00:37:35 like multiple wire transfers going through and him not knowing about it. Like him never getting a verification thing sent to his phone, to his email, getting a phone call from somebody at the bank. It's weird, it's very weird. It is weird. And if you're the translator,
Starting point is 00:37:51 you probably found yourself in a situation where you were saying that Shohei is backing you up on all this to your bookie. And then your bookie, again, giving you that four and a half million dollars of credit or using your position as a translator to get inside information on the games. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And I mean, just think about it. Like if they're that close and he probably did have at least a credit card or some type of way to get money, it's like, I mean, it's no different than memes. I'll lend him my credit card and I won't see it for two weeks. He's my eBay. Yeah. You know? So it's like that will happen.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Right memes? Yep. See, it could happen to anyone. It could happen anyway. I had a very dumb thought. I want to just be open with everyone. Very dumb thought. Probably sleep deprivation yesterday when he was doing his press conference. I was like, man, it would fucking rock if I was a translator. Like if I went overseas and translated for like a baseball American baseball star. And then I sat with that thought for a couple minutes is like, I don't speak any other English any other languages. Yeah. It's just like, I basically my thought was just that I would go overseas and just be friends with someone and never actually do the job. It would be very funny though, if you just
Starting point is 00:39:03 made up what they were saying, like Like has there been a case of a translator that doesn't speak the language? Yeah. That goes over there and it's just like, hey, this guy says, this reporter wants to know like what your favorite cereal is. Yeah. And then you just lie.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah. There's sign language people that have made up their job. Yeah. Gone up and done the face signs. I love those people. Huge flaw in my whole plan to become a translator for a star athlete overseas You know what else I was thinking about? Interesting timing with the wife reveal of Shohei. Mmm. He was such a private guy. We knew nothing about his personal life
Starting point is 00:39:34 We didn't even know his dog's name. Yeah until like three months ago, and then all of a sudden it's like a wife reveal Four days later five days later Biggest scandal in baseball breaks about Ipe. You think maybe it was he got married and his wife started being like hey where's all this money going? His wife might have found it out because they were under investigation at the time. Yeah. It's like you dude you need to clean up your finances.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah this guy's just taking money keeps losing parlay's. Yeah like hey Shohei where where this four and a half million dollars go we're gonna buy seven houses. Yeah. He's like that's a good question It's like two million dollars gone right after the Super Bowl. Yeah, it's just it's weird the time I my thought was that show he found out about the investigation hired a crisis team and then part of their crisis team was like We need to get ahead of the negative publicity
Starting point is 00:40:19 Let's show everybody your superstar wife. Yeah, I wonder I wish we could get Ipe's pics cuz he sucks If he's down great to fade Ipe. Fade Ipe? Yeah Imagine if we just get me he I wouldn't be shocked if Ipe just ends up being a Twitter tout Yeah, he's actually one of those things one of those people that we think are bots in our all the replies Yeah, 100% fixed on telegram. Yeah, That's Ipe. God, I just block all those all day. Yeah. Just never goes away. Ipe is a pussy in bio. It never, yeah, pussy in Lincoln bio. I don't block those. No, those ones you got to keep because they might have the pussy in bio. Yeah, maybe a close up month. You never know. Okay, let's get to Hot Seat Cool
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Starting point is 00:42:25 Word it's off one a rag low down rag you layer. There it is. Uh-huh. Got it irrigation He's too wet on his prop betting involving him there was a couple times where he basically started a game took himself out because of a eye injury and on those games there was a out because of an eye injury and on those games there was a bunch of action on his prop bets. Unders. Unders. Bad.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Bad. Very bad. So I saw the report that said that it was the number one paid out prop of the night. Yeah. Both times that he did it, right? And both times he started the game and then came out with an injury. And he's not a guy that like, we're not talking about a Yoke-itch or an Embiid or a Tatum where people are betting these star players. He probably doesn't get a lot
Starting point is 00:43:10 of prop bet action night to night. And then the two nights that he comes out of a game, it ends up being a lot of action on it. Was he a Stephen Che data play? I don't know. We got to look into that. I'm actually looking forward to all the revisionist history that's gonna go on where people do deep dives into every single play that He's ever had oh, yeah, yeah and been like look how bad this shot is had the under yeah Well, I think he was just not even shooting There was one game where he's back in the three Yeah, we're in a three and then his face after you could tell he was like fuck and then the time he came out with
Starting point is 00:43:43 A face injury people were already breaking that down. he didn't really get hit in the face he got kind of hitting the neck yeah this is bad it's bad and yeah the NBA is in a very tough spot right now yeah yeah i don't know how i mean we'll have to find like the evidence and see if he actually bedded himself because i I would assume it was him bedding it himself or someone of it one of his friends bedding itself, not him like telling everyone because then that would have you can't. That's something that would never be a secret for more than two seconds right today's media. Right. Or he was kind of like we're speculating with eBay, like in debt to a bookie. Yeah, gave the bookie info. I'm gonna sit this one out, but this one was all public though. It's
Starting point is 00:44:27 Ipe was a private book. Yes one is they have the irrigation irrigation irrigation Irregularities on a legal sports book. Yeah, so Yeah, it's bad. He's also active About crypto trading like he talked about it. Oh Which is just a that's a that's a red flag in itself. Yeah I'm an FT how many apes did he have on these active in social media about his options crypto trading and like he's talked about You know, I took 5k and turned into 100k is uh, is crypto back
Starting point is 00:44:59 Bitcoin is I've been seeing a lot of you remember the shitcoin craze of like 2021 when everyone was into What were those weird coins like shitcoin cum rocket moon coin coin all that stuff I've been seeing more new shit coins recently. Well, I think it just goes hand in hand anytime Bitcoin like pops Everyone who has not invested in Bitcoin years and years ago is like fuck. I want my Bitcoin Mm-hmm let me just invest in fart rocket yeah or you know fart bucks just let me know until we're on the moon yeah okay I need to know when we're at the moon he's also Michael Porter jr. brother that's true is I just saw are we getting him to what
Starting point is 00:45:39 that's just a fun fact that is a fun fact I don't know if I guess it could be a fun fact but maybe he's involved too I don't know if that means anything. I guess it could be a fun fact, but maybe he's involved too. I don't want to go and just implicate his brother just yet. Why not? Well his brother... You wouldn't tell your brother if you were... No, I probably wouldn't because I would be trying to do it without telling anyone. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:45:59 There'd be a nine page article about it. Also your brother would probably be like, hey dude, don't do this. Yeah. Also his brother's making like stupid NBA money. John T. Porter's just making... That's true. be a nine page article about it also your brother probably like hey dude don't do this yeah also his brother's making like stupid NBA money John T Porter's just making true yeah that's fair point yeah also his brother is really good right and he's been playing really well yeah yeah okay uh see and then my cool throne is JJ McCarthy yeah oh why's that congrats PFT okay um speaking of odds JJ McCarthy had a best hardball called the best pro day he's ever seen. Yup. Ever. And he's the best quarterback that's ever played at Michigan.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And his odds, that's not true. That's what Harbaugh said. Okay. And his odds from being the second overall pick went from 2,500 to plus 400. So, yeah, he's getting a lot of talk. He's our late riser. Yep. Harbaugh was so funny. I just love watching him talk football. He did a whole like two minutes on how the offensive line is the greatest football unit because it's the only football unit that doesn't rely on any other units. And like every, he's like every single positional unit, offense and defense relies on the offensive line. Rugged individualism. Yeah. Collective individualism. He's like, defense relies on the offensive line. Rugged individualism. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Collective individualism. It's like everyone else needs the offensive line. The offensive line just needs each other. Yeah. And it was great. But Hank, JJ McCarthy, I want to just throw just a random trade out there. You tell me if you'd be down for it. Patriots receive QB Justin Herbert, fifth overall pick 2024 2025 first round pick Chargers received
Starting point is 00:47:27 the third pick to draft JJ McCarthy and also Juju Smith Schuster. So you get Justin Herbert. I was with you. And next year's first. Oh okay. You can't get rid of Juju. Because our colleague Nick Fasoli said I think he said I think I said, I think I'm in. Yeah, I'd be into that. I'd be in that train if I was the Patriots. The best part was when I, when I was just like, for solely, what are you, what are you talking about, dude? He's like, I got got. It's like, no, no, that wasn't, that wasn't a got. You just said that was a good trade. I concur. I think that's, that's a fleece. Yeah. He actually, his exact phrase was I actually don't hate this. Yeah. I don't hate it either. Who would hate that? So to your point though, Hank on JJ McCarthy being drafted second overall, I think a couple
Starting point is 00:48:09 of the couple of things are happening here. One, it's smoke screen season. So there might be a team out there that would be hoping that the Vikings might package a lot of picks to move up and take JJ McCarthy earlier in the draft. Vikings are up to something, remember. Yes. Wind horse, they're up to something. That's what I'm saying. There might be a team, maybe even a team inside the division like the Chicago Bears, that
Starting point is 00:48:33 might be hoping that the Vikings trade up way too many picks to take JJ. The other thing that might be happening, we have a new GM in DC, Adam Peters, right? One thing new GMs love to do is smoke out a rat. So they like to give little kernels of information that might not be true to one person, hoping that one person leaks it to the media.
Starting point is 00:48:55 This is all facts. And how does that affect J.J. McCarthy? Oh, I think he's actually going to get drafted very high. He will, but I don't think he's going second. He's our late riser. Yes, always one of these guys. I mean remember when Baker like when he drafted 1-1 Going, you know a month before no one thought that was gonna happen Yeah, there are people that that climb up Anthony Richardson was that way too? Yeah I think you can also just JJ McCarthy's a perfect quarterback where you can look at it And if you want to look at it glass half full
Starting point is 00:49:24 He could be the greatest quarterback of all time because you can essentially say he played winning football he made the throws needed to make and they also asked him not to do anything so there's so much more there's upside you can tell yourself that JJ McCarthy is the guy but let's rewind about 12 months ago exactly to this date everybody was talking about Will Levis going off the board yeah in the top 10 too so there's a lot of like misinformation that gets put out there this time of year. Stay woke Hank. Yeah, okay. Stay woke. Okay, PFT.
Starting point is 00:49:50 My hot seat is whoever produced the Patriots documentary. Yeah. Because Robert Kraft is not happy with that individual. They asked him about it at the league meeting yesterday and he said, I felt bad there was so much emphasis on the more controversial and let's say challenging situations over the last 20 years. I wish they had focused more on our Super Bowl wins, our 21 game win streak. I felt bad there were players who gave hours and hours of interviews and they only felt the negativity. So a little disappointed that there wasn't more of a real positive approach, especially for Patriots fans who have lived the experience with us.
Starting point is 00:50:23 We're all trying to find the guy who did this. Whoever made that documentary, Robert Kraft is not happy with you. Not happy at all. And the most controversial comments used in the documentary were from Robert Kraft. They threw Robert Kraft under the bus. And I don't think Robert Kraft was actually physically editing the documentary, but I would bet that he got to watch the final cut before it was made and he was like, we nailed it. Bell checks a scumbag. I would bet that whoever produced it watched each
Starting point is 00:50:53 episode one by one and said, okay yeah this one looks good for episode one, this looks good for episode two, and then they kept all that information from Robert Kraft until... And Kraft LLC. And Kraft LLC until it came out. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure if you wanted to highlight, you know, the 21 game win season. He could have probably made that happen. He probably could have made that happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Whoever made the documentary could have, yes. Yeah, a lot of the players coming out being like, we, I think Rodney Harrison was like, I talked for five hours and all they used was like one clip. Yeah. Tough. And one of the McCordys, I forget which one. Yeah. They share a Twitter account, so they're one person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:27 We're all trying to find the guy who did this. We'll never know. Yeah, it's a shame. They should take those interviews and make another documentary. I wish he had just doubled down. You know what? He should have just gotten in front of the medium
Starting point is 00:51:39 and been like, nah, that actually rocked. Bill Belchek, schmuck. You know what they should have done? They should have released two documentaries, one for Patriots haters and one for Patriots fans. Yeah Something for everybody you need to you need an extra cut Well, that's coming. That's that's that is the the takeaway though because there is a lot of players and Belichick It's like NFL films is gonna come out with a documentary and that's gonna be the one. Yeah. Okay, your cool Throne my cool throne is birds in New York City
Starting point is 00:52:04 Oh, so they just released the autopsy from Flacco the owl. Remember Flacco or beloved central park owl, the Spanish owl that gave them from the zoo who could forget flew into the side of a building. Yeah. Felt like I felt I flew in that building that day. Yeah. Bill's would like to sign you. So they did the autopsy on them and they said that he had rat poison and pigeon herpes in his system.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Oh, you fucked. And the pigeon herpes infected his brain and made him a little bit crazy, which made him hit the side of the building. So Flacco the owl was fucking pigeons. He was promiscuous. He was promiscuous. I don't know. Like, is that bestiality?
Starting point is 00:52:43 If you... No, because he's a beast he's a bird Yeah, and he fucked another bird. Yeah, that's that's that's fine. He was just getting yeah, that's it Yeah, no, he just was very promiscuous kind of a slut Well, we don't slut shame, but he was if you were to slut shame you'd be like flack of the owl confirmed slut He was a whore. Yeah, he was a man whore you gotta ask so he was kind of good-looking too. That was a girl or boy I think flacko was a boy. Okay. Yeah, I so he was kind of good looking too though. Was it girl or boy? I think Flacco was a boy. Okay yeah I mean he was hot.
Starting point is 00:53:07 He was fucking say that. Smoke show. Yeah like everyone the reason why he became such a viral sensation was he was good looking and then it went to his head. There was a bunch of just really horny pigeons, bunch of really lucky pigeons in New York that got to be fucked by Flacco. Yeah. But apparently if you fuck too much and you're an owl it gets into your brain
Starting point is 00:53:26 Disorients you and then you just crash yourself into a window and die. Yeah. Yeah, okay, so flacco a slut I'd be okay. My hot seat is me I've slept I slept for the first time more than like five hours on Monday night, and I've come to the realization I'd like to apologize. I was a bitch all all weekend so I want to say I was a bitch no real excuse I actually call I texted all the people I said don't text me I said you did nothing wrong you can text me anytime you want when my team suck I think I was thinking about it I think it's because I've been so out of practice with my teams playing in meaningful games it's been very long time since they played in meaningful
Starting point is 00:54:03 games and in the past like I've done all the things that I've done to other people like the World Series when Dave dressed up in Indians attire, the 2015 Wisconsin National Championship when we did an emergency rundown directly after when Florida hit the buzzer beater, we did an emergency pod right after I just had been out of practice of I got to be able to eat the shit If I give the shit, so I was a bitch and I want to apologize Is that directed to Hank? No, it's directed to everyone to the listeners I mean, there's some people who probably hate me for life, but that's fine. I I Was a bitch. What did Khan say when you texted him and apologized? He was like, yeah, no big deal You don't have to apologize. That's nice Yeah, so I you can anyone can text and I also got a little I get a little confused because I eat so much shit On Twitter all the time that I'm like and obviously other people don't see that so I'm like I take a lot of shit But I'm I people can can can talk shit all they want
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah, my team suck and I got to do a better job of not being a bitch about it I really just wanted I just haven't had any happiness in sports in a long time and I just wanted so bad to have a little bit of happiness that it clouded my judgment and I took things personally. You're allowed to be a bitch when your team's loose. Yeah, but like we said, 24 hours, I think that's an appropriate amount of time. But you can't take it personally. I took it personally.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Like when Hank showed up in a purple jumpsuit, I took it personally. It wasn't personal. Like I shouldn't have taken that personally. Hank was trying to be a good employee and yeah He was using the Dave Yeah, so I took it personally I was a bitch no excuses bitch made baby back bitch So going forward I don't want to be I don't ever be accused of being a hypocrite So I apologize and I will eat any shit that I can eat whenever my teams are in the spotlight and I won't complain about it and we will do that going
Starting point is 00:55:49 forward. So when's the next opportunity that you have to get your hopes up? Never. Maybe in the draft, Caleb Williams? Yeah, I mean we're going to draft Caleb Williams but yeah, whenever people control me, I mean I get trolled all day but again, troll away like I deserve it. I deserve to eat shit. Okay. My cool throne is I got to speaking to Caleb Williams. He's got a cool pink phone. No, that's nice. Probably the coolest thing ever. You guys probably were dying to have a quarterback with a pink phone. I guess what
Starting point is 00:56:22 he's mine. I haven't seen that. Is that part of is that part of the Caleb Williams news cycle? He was at the USC game last night he has a pink phone got people really upset. I say maybe think differently. He's so advanced. He knows that pink phones are cool. Is he supporting breast cancer awareness? Guess what you probably won't lose a pink phone. Yeah, it's it's sticks out. I had a red phone. It was sick. Yeah. I only had a red phone because I wasn't secure enough in my sexuality to have a pink phone This is gonna really suck if the Bears don't take kill Williams because I've just gone all in on defending him and as everyone knows On this podcast. I've always said pink phones are the most masculine thing you can do. Yeah No, I I think it's a pretty much set thing that you guys are gonna take Caleb Williams max
Starting point is 00:57:02 What do you think about the pink phone? I saw your face there. You loved it, right? No, I just wanted you to talk about it. Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. I thought it was so cool. I never even thought you could have a pink phone. It had like the pink wallet attached to it. He might have even had pink fingernails, which also so cool. Who doesn't match their fingernails to their phone? I also think that may not have been his phone.
Starting point is 00:57:19 It could have also not been his phone, but if it was, whoever's phone that was. I'm looking at it right now. He might, I think he's got a pink sparkly wallet too. Yeah. It's a sparkly wallet. That's cool as fuck. Jerry McCain paints his nails. That's fucking cool. The best player in the league. Yeah. And the tournament also great dance moves in this video. Yup. Oh, there's a, there's a guy on Duke that had painted nails too. Yeah. He's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's good. Like 40. He couldn't miss. Yeah. He's a tick to Duke that had painted nails too. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, McCain, yeah. Yeah, he's good. He dropped like 40. He couldn't miss. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:47 He's a TikTok star. He is a TikTok star. My other cool throne is Andrew Huberman who had a hit piece out against him from the New Yorker, which- Who is he? All right, so he's a podcaster, scientist, like bro scientist. He's the world's preeminent bro scientist geared towards Will Compton and Billy football. Yeah, he's, you know, like-
Starting point is 00:58:04 Ben Shapiro for science. I don't know. No, about that. I don't think he's too political. He's your tate for science. No, I'm saying like bro. Yeah, well, he's he's he's yes, Joe Rogan is the is the Venn diagram like a big circle. He's, you know, cold tubs, like healthy living, no alcohol, that kind of stuff. So the New Yorker wrote a hit piece about him, which is very funny because I would say the amount of people that listen to Andrew Huberman and subscribe to the New Yorker is zero. But either way, the big like gotcha moment was that he has like six or seven girlfriends, which I don't know, I feel like that's a ringing endorsement for his lifestyle
Starting point is 00:58:46 because he's like 48 years old and to have the energy to have six or seven girlfriends means that he's doing something right with his like healthy living. Yeah, this guy gets laid too much. Yeah. Real problems with him. I mean, it's some bad behavior to cheat on, you know, a student for another, but again, like he 48 years old and be like, yeah, I have the time for seven girlfriends. Wait, do the girlfriends know about each other?
Starting point is 00:59:07 The article kind of revealed it and how it all unfolded. Also very funny because people are going back and he had a life hack was, one of his life hacks was to have a second phone just for working out that only has music on it. I feel like that second phone might have been for other people. Yeah, that was his pink phone, If you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Is he married? Did he like preach? No, he probably he probably is a little bit of a hypocrite in that respect.
Starting point is 00:59:32 But again, he's 40 years old and has energy for seven girlfriends. I don't know, maybe cold tubs work. OK, so this is pretty funny. He was dating a woman named Sarah, that not a real name, but that was that was the name. So they use what they're classifying as girlfriends. And they asked her a question. She said she would return and the answer would be on an old phone. She set up left for only a moment and returned with a box labeled old phones.
Starting point is 00:59:54 So it sounds like his girlfriends had multiple phones too. Yeah. The hit piece was essentially like he's not a great guy, which I don't know if anyone, I wouldn't have, like if you told me Andrew Hubin's not a great guy, which I I don't know if anyone I Wouldn't have like if you told me age Andrew Hubern is not a great guy But like okay sure like don't make a hero out of a podcaster So it's like he the the one part that was I thought was like oh this guy's a scumbag was I think Sarah his girlfriend Was going through IVF to try to have a child while he was cheating on her that sucks like that shitty move Yeah, that's but again. It wasn't I didn't I only skimmed it so I might've missed something. Either way, I
Starting point is 01:00:28 just saw the fact that he had seven girlfriends and it's 48 and it's like, how could you have the time to do that? Yes. It's insane. So I've been watching some of his videos and listening to his podcast just in the past like couple weeks because he came across my desk via Billyy football He's a big cold tub guy. Yeah big cool to the point where now I want to get a cold tub I've been I'm gonna go back and forth back and forth between Sana cold tub sauna cold tub and then all my problems will go away. Yeah, and then it just gives you a natural high
Starting point is 01:00:57 Yeah, but I'm in I'm in I don't want to have seven girlfriends, but I'm in on everything else seven girlfriends would be exhausting Yeah, so I'm saying it would be he's proving that his method works because I don't want to have seven girlfriends, but I'm in on everything else seven girlfriends would be exhausting Yes, I'm saying it would be he's proving that his method works because I don't know anyone who's above the age of I actually I don't know anyone who could handle seven girls It would honestly now I'm kind of backtracking on Huberman because it led you to a point where you think that having seven girlfriends is A good idea. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like he's got a messy personal life and Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like he's got a messy personal life and okay. Yeah. He's got a sex addiction. Come on the pod. Addicted to sex. We would have him on the pod, right? Yeah. Oh, by the way, can everyone please follow if you're listening to this right now? Can you follow us on Spotify? I guess they make those numbers public. So let's
Starting point is 01:01:39 get those numbers up. Follow us on Spotify. If you listen on Spotify, do it, do it, do it. Uh, okay. Jake, your hot seat, cool throne. Do it. Do it. Do it. Okay, Jake, your hot seat cool trot. My hot seat is the Arizona Diamondbacks. They play at Chase Field. They had their penultimate spring training game last night and it was called Due to Rain. The crazy part about that is they have a retractable roof and they just never closed it. Oh, they forgot.
Starting point is 01:02:02 That one guy rules that he just like woke up. It's basically max pressing the button. Yeah. Like he just woke up. He's like, wait, did I fucking forget to close the roof? Yeah. Apparently they can't close it mid game, but they probably should have seen the forecast. Yeah. Four. Oh yeah. That's biggest poor guy. Biggest roof close failures Arizona Diamondbacks. Number one, JFK number two. Yep. That's it, right there. Yeah, so that was interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:28 My cool thrown is Christmas Day. Yeah. Football is taking over once again. We have another Christmas Day game. It's even on a Wednesday this year, so they're willing to go the distance to make sure. Yeah, they rule. We rule.
Starting point is 01:02:40 They're gonna take over the NBA. We do rule. I feel like it is a win for us. It's a big win for us. We did it. I'm not a ratings guy, but I do in these moments, We're going to take over the NBA. We do. I feel like it is a win for us. It's a big win for us. We did it. I'm not a ratings guy, but I do in these moments. I'm just like, suck it, NBA.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah. Watching football. So the NFL said, I think in the last year that they would not do a game on Christmas day this year because it was going to be on a Wednesday. Yeah. And then they're like, yeah, you know what though? The ratings were pretty good. They said everything because they, you know, the rule is that they never do Friday nights
Starting point is 01:03:06 because of high school football. And then they broke the, it was obviously Friday during the day, the black Friday game last year. Yeah. They're just, I like it. They're just cocky. They're like, we'll play football anytime. And everyone will watch.
Starting point is 01:03:16 At this point, the NFL could invent a day of the week in between Saturday and Sunday and just be like, yeah, we're doing Satunde now. Yeah. And that's when we play football. We're going to do three games on Satunde. And we'd just be like yeah, we're doing Satunde now. Yeah, and that's when we play football We're gonna do three games on satunday and we'd be like, yeah I guess there's eight days in the week and I'm gonna watch football on the eighth one I kind of so it so the the teams that play on Wednesday are gonna play on Saturday the week before so they'll have it So it'll be almost it'll be exactly like a Sunday Thursday
Starting point is 01:03:40 It's kind of I mean you get a pretty big break after that an extra buy Yeah, as you go Wednesday then all all the way to the following Sunday It's kind of, I mean you get a pretty big break after that, an extra buy. Yeah. As you go Wednesday then all the way to the following Sunday. So I feel like I would, if your team is good and you want to like have that extra buy right at the end of the season. Yeah, I'm in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I would be in on that. How do you think the NBA is going to counteract this? Because Adam Silver's cooking something up in his lab right now. A one day tournament? Either do the breakaway baskets. A breakaway baskets or a one day tournament. The NBA Christmas Cup where every team plays multiple games that day and there's only one game. Yeah. Like an AAU day. 8 a.m. starts. 8 a.m. starts and then there's one winner. The cup game tips off at like 11 p.m. Yeah. You know what they could do is they could
Starting point is 01:04:24 just the NBA could just be make it John T Porter day and everyone wins their bets. That'd be nice. People would tune in. Yeah. They make John T Porter plays on every game, in every game. They make the rims a little bit bigger. So every, every over hits.
Starting point is 01:04:38 That's, that would be smart. So we would have Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, NFL, and then the next two days are college football playoff quarterfinals beautiful. It's great Love it. It's great. Wait, God bless America. Can't wait. Okay, let's get to our interview We have Shane Gillis on the show long time coming Shane's the man He has probably the busiest schedule on anyone and he made time for us came by when he was in Chicago Before we do that PFT, you got a quick word from one of our sponsors.
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Starting point is 01:06:13 part of my cheese steak near you. Order yours now at part of mycheesesteak.com. Use code PMC20 for 20% off your order at participating locations when you shop at partinmycheese steak dot com. Now here's Shane Gillis. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, long, long overdue. It's, I was gonna say the number one comedian, but I know that would bother you. Don't say that. I'm not gonna say that. It's Shane Gillis, the dog. You've got a transcending comedy. It's an all around entertainment superstar. You've changed the art. Guys. Shane, are you A-list?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Do you want to leave? Do you want to not do it again? That'd be great if you were just like, I'm out. I'm out. No, Shane's here. Awesome to have you. Thank you very much for coming by. I mean, you did fuck with me last night
Starting point is 01:06:59 because you had a show. You're in Chicago for Chicago theater shows. Shane made me do The Voice of God, and I just fucking. You blew it. I blew it. I thought you were going to be all energy. I blew it. Shane made me do the voice of God, and I just fucking blew it I blew it. I thought you were gonna be all energy I blew it how do you do the voice of God like like being like ladies and gentlemen like please no flash photography And I just blew yeah, so there's yeah there's a microphone next to the curtain where you make the announcement and
Starting point is 01:07:17 I was like here's all you gotta say like if you're gonna take a picture don't use a flash don't film anything And then introduce Nate Marshall, and he was like, and then say whatever, like add whatever you want, like be like Chicago, what's up. He literally was like, hey everybody, if you're gonna take a picture, don't use a flash, don't film anything, give it up for Nate Marshall. Fuck. I'm blue.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Right away I was like, motherfucker. That was one of the worst ones. Ever. That was a bad one. I said to Nate after, I was like, I'm so sorry because I feel like I fucked you. He's like, no dude, actually like it was good because you were so bad. It made me laugh and like put me at ease going out there.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah, it was funny. Yeah. Do most places have their own voice of God or do you just, you deputize somebody? No, you have to do it, yeah. Usually if somebody's with me, I'm like, you wanna do it? It's, but no, or I have to do it, which is terrible. Maybe I'll show up.
Starting point is 01:08:02 I'm so bad at it. Maybe I'll show up tonight and give it a second chance. Yeah, get pumped. Next time you're in New York, it should be Frank the Tank. Oh, that'd be incredible. But he would just be like, the New Jersey Transit is delayed again. It'd be incredible to get him going while he's doing it.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Yeah. Be like, yeah, the Phillies rule the match, so. Well, the best fucking thing. Over the voice of God, 10 minutes of it. He does it, he comes to Rough and Rowdy, for every Rough and Rowdydy just to get in the ring right before and just say, is everyone ready to get Rough and Rowdy?
Starting point is 01:08:31 Well, that's not it, that's not it at all. Are you ready to get, who's ready to get Rough, who's ready to get Rowdy, are you ready to get Rough and Rowdy? Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, he did better than what I did. Yeah, he's Bruce Buffer, he's your Buffer. Yeah, all right, so you're here.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Thank you for coming on. Dude, you're, I don't wanna, cause I know you were friends, and I know like the thing about Shane is, he is just a regular dude. And it's like this last whatever stretch for you has been probably mind blowing. I don't wanna suck your dick
Starting point is 01:09:00 cause it makes you uncomfortable, but shit man, you're killing it. Thanks man. You you guys are too this place is beautiful yeah that's what you do to get famous in comedy right you have to suck two dicks at once yes I will start with something easy all-time favorite Notre Dame player oh Shane is a die-hard Notre Dame fan Die hard. I'm gonna forget That's a tough one. It could be it doesn't have to be the best some Arjo was Some Arjo's Marja was up there that team was that was a big team for me. So Marja was Quinn. Yeah, yeah Brady Quinn I mean we've had we've had him on the show Darius Walker the best spiral of all time
Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah, he was that spiral was he was so so sick Yeah, that team was good. The safety was Zbikowski right? Zbikowski. Every time he'd be on TV they'd be like he's a Golden Gloves boxer. He's a boxer man. He's so tough. And then Smarja was a really good receiver and then he goes pro as a baseball player. That rocks. That was awesome. And he played forever. Yeah throw the ball. Okay so you're noted how are you noted in fan how that start? My grandpa played for him and my cousin played for him.
Starting point is 01:10:07 OK, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you go way back. So my whole family's obsessed. Do you like the tradition, the whole Notre Dame-ness of it? I do. You get really into that? But there's also a part, I didn't go to the fucking school.
Starting point is 01:10:20 So the academic standards, I don't care. It's always like, it's like, who cares? Just fucking win. What's up, Santino? He's gonna be on in a minute too. All right, I just wanted to pop in. No, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, sit down, sit down. No.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Sit down. No, dude. Yeah. All right, he's gonna go shoot hoops. Yeah, so you've been a Notre Dame fan your whole life. It's, Notre Dame, you know people hate Notre Dame. Like hate, hate, hate Notre Dame. Not as much as they should.
Starting point is 01:10:48 They used to, like growing up, they hated them. Yeah, because they haven't been as good. They were so good. Now people are starting to be like, ah, I was cheering for Notre Dame. It's like, damn, we suck. You have the people, and I count myself as one of them, being like, I don't like Notre Dame,
Starting point is 01:11:01 but they're good for college football. Which probably, it's kind of like a pat on their head. Yeah. Where it's like, I kind of wish they were in the mix. Yeah. But. They've been in the mix a little. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:11 They're all right. Are they gonna join the Big Ten? I don't know, I think they might have to eventually. I think they should. I would like it. Yeah. That'd be fun. It would be sick.
Starting point is 01:11:20 USC being in there helps now. Yeah. Yeah, and then bring back the Michigan rivalry. I would love to bring back the Michigan rivalry. I know. I Fucking hate Michigan. I know. That would be a great one. I think actually Wisconsin plays Notre Dame in a couple of years at Lambeau. I want to say they were supposed to do that. Yeah. And then COVID. Yeah. Yeah. And I went to the game at Soldier Field and Notre Dame. That was nice. That was a high game. Yeah. Yeah. yeah well Drew Pine came out of nowhere started dealing Drew Pine all like five ten of them yeah he's hitting the McGregor strut and shit after throwing
Starting point is 01:11:51 yeah so wait would you rather have a Notre Dame national title than the Eagles Super Bowl yes without a doubt no doubt no doubt yeah okay I mean you have to everyone has that like, you know, they rank where it is. It's Notre Dame Yeah, and yeah the Phillies. Yeah, I'm not gonna say what no say I was gonna say like if they died I'd be for a national title is the Phillies program the whole team died I Tried Bryce Harper Like a knockoff really no offense to the Phillies. I love the Phillies, but. So it goes, it goes Notre Dame Eagles Sixers. Are you Sixers guy?
Starting point is 01:12:27 I would probably say Phillies over the Sixers. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, Sixers flyers whenever they're good. That's fun. Yeah. They've been bad forever. So I stopped liking hockey.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Yeah. Speaking of the, uh, of the NBA, you, so you met Steph Curry the other day and he like, was like, I know who you are. Yeah, that was crazy. That was so are Yeah, that was crazy that so yeah That has to be one of those most because like I said at the start like you are a regular dude You have not changed much even though you everything's happened to you. Like does that happen? You're just like how how does Steph Curry? Know why yeah, that was wild and it was like you've set in those seats. There's like courts. I couldn't move right I was like uncomfortable the entire game.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I didn't move, because I'm too big. I'm sitting like on people's laps, just uncomfortable the entire game. And at the end of the game, I walk over and I'm like, hi, I'm Shane Gillis. You guys nailed it. Whoever did the lip reading got it perfectly. I was like, hi, I'm Shane.
Starting point is 01:13:20 He was like, I know who you are, dude. I was like, sick, what's up? And then he was like, he said he was a fan. I was like, damn, that's crazy. He's like I know you are dude And then he was like I'm he said he was a fan I was like damn that's crazy That's that is not yeah, the court side seats are weird cuz you to me the biggest problem is you don't have it any Place to put your beer. Yeah, and you put it down by your feet And you know you're gonna kick I'm gonna spill it onto the fucking Warriors bench and the game's gonna stop and they're gonna bring a Guy how and the camera's gonna zoom in and he'd be like look at this alcoholic spilling his drink everywhere. Yeah, that's And the camera's gonna zoom in on you be like look at this alcoholic spilling his drink everywhere. Yeah, that's that's a nightmare
Starting point is 01:13:49 So when you were in New York I the only question I have about SNL is was there any part of you that was like I'm not gonna Host it when they offered it to you because it would have yeah So you you were like contemplating it because you're like no fuck you guys. I'm bigger than you guys You're coming back to me now. It was more of, it's the funniest thing possible. Right. To say no. But then I realized I would have to publicly say they offered me and I said no. And then no one would know.
Starting point is 01:14:12 It's not like they publicly offered it. Right. You know? And that makes it corny to be like, they actually asked me and I said no. Yeah. There's, you need that to be leaked somehow. Yeah. We would have leaked it for you. Yeah. That happens again.
Starting point is 01:14:24 But it's, I don't know. There was, I was like joking about it. We'd be leaked somehow. Yeah. We would have leaked it for you. Yeah. That happens again. But it's I don't know. I was like joking about it. We'd be hanging out. I'd be like, it'd be so cool if I didn't do it. I might not do it. And then back in my head, I was like, I'm definitely doing it. Yeah. I'm absolutely going to do that. Did they call, did Lauren call you directly? No. So what? They just reached out to you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and you were you like, this is a prank at first? No, cause I'd heard rumblings of it for a while. Like a year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Of like, they might ask you to host. It must've, like when you walked in the room, was it awkward at all? Or were you just like, hey guys, like member? Yeah, day one was awkward. Day one was very uncomfortable. Cause it was offices that I hadn't been in since then. Yeah. Wait, I didn't been in since then. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Wait, I didn't realize you would actually, did you do a full day of work there? I did, no, I didn't do any work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just damage control in different offices. Right, but you- But yeah, I was in there a lot. You were in there, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:16 And so I was just sitting in offices where the worst thing happened. The worst thing possible. Yeah, in the back like, hey, this is it. Yeah, did you think about doing the the norm mcdonald joke in your monologue yes a lot but then i don't know i think the best way to handle it is to just do comedy yeah for me like norm got fired for making fun of oj right his was a lot different we could say norm was right norm was right yeah yeah dead right we can publicly say Norm was right. Norm was right. Yeah. Dead right. We can publicly say Norm was right. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:15:46 And he was on the show and the fans there liked him. If I got out there and I was like, yeah, fuck this show. It would look crazy. And then I'd still have to do the show. Right, right. Yeah, you'd be like, fuck this show. Like in the monologue, if I was like, yeah, whatever, this show sucks, I'm crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:01 And then have to do sketches where I'm like. Yeah, did they? Like that sucks. Like how involved in the writing process did they let you be? Because I know that you write sketch comedy. Yeah, I brought McKeever. He's the one who does a majority of the writing. Did you guys actually bring your own shit to them?
Starting point is 01:16:18 Or were you like, hey, we're going to do this? We brought a couple sketches, but day one was when we had to pitch them, and it was a very uncomfortable day. And then we got in a room with a bunch of the writers and we're like, here's some ideas we have. And we would tell the jokes and they would be like, oh, we were immediately like, all right, we're not pitching anything else ever again.
Starting point is 01:16:36 We suck. You guys are right. Also, just use the good shit for yourself. Yeah. There's also that. Yeah. There was a tweet, one barstool employee after your monologue tweeted this Shane Gillis on SNL saying gay retarded and
Starting point is 01:16:50 cracker is exactly what we needed do you think is that we saved America is that I would say that's, I'm fucking that now. You know who treated that? Who? Will. Yeah, Will Compton. You're like, we're like, dude it was. It was Will or it was retarded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Will was just like, Shane Gillis just saved America. Yeah, there was a lot of pressure on that fucking monologue. Did you, so the big question though is, and I.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Hold on, there's one here, this one's my favorite. It's like, Shane Gillis bringing back Calling Things Gay and Retarded on SNL like we used to a middle school and it's uh, oh shit I'm airplane mode. It's the it's this Michigan fan. That's like this should mean something to me The the big question is though was there ever even like a small part of you that like, maybe I should do the Bud Dwyer? Because you said you were gonna do the Bud Dwyer. Yeah, I said I was gonna kill him. If I ever got back, I would say,
Starting point is 01:17:50 live from my mouth, this fucking gun, kill myself. Like, obviously I don't want you to die. I would have been the, yeah, that would have been the coolest. But was there a small part of you that was like, what if I did? It's almost like getting on the top of a tall building, you're like, what if I jumped?
Starting point is 01:18:04 Yeah, yeah, there's, obviously I the I would be the coolest guy of all time But if I got back on SNL and blew my head off That would be that might be the biggest entertainment story of all time. It would be it'd be up there, right? I mean bud wire was huge. Yeah, and that was just some fucking guy. Yeah, whatever he was that would have I mean there was a small part of me watching it being like I actually think I think it would have to cancel like they would have canceled SNL. Yeah. Yeah No live television ever again for anyone. The gambling sketch you did felt very pointed. I, that
Starting point is 01:18:51 had nothing to do with me. I didn't write that. Because I was, I was watching it live with my wife. Yeah. She literally was just staring at me the entire time that sketch was going. Yeah. She's like, huh? I was like, what? What? What? Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, I liked that. huh. And I was just like, what, what, what? Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, that was great. I liked that. Yeah, so yeah, your stuff is, the stuff you guys, you do with McKeever is incredible.
Starting point is 01:19:12 And you have a new show coming on Netflix. On Netflix, yeah. Tires. That you paid for yourself. Yes. Which is awesome. Yeah. So you were just like, fucking, I'm gonna do this show. Yeah. And I want my friends to be in it.
Starting point is 01:19:23 And like, was there ever a doubt, like you would get to this point where it's like, I, and I want my friends to be in it. Was there ever a doubt you would get to this point where it's like, I can now bring all my friends along and pay for this shit? Well, the reason I'm friends with them is they're good. All right. I have a bunch of friends that I didn't bring along. Oh, shit. Sass is listening to this right now.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Francis. Oh, Nate. Fuck you, Nate. Nate, the quarter. Oh, Francis is in it. Oh, Francis is in it? Francis is actually in it. He made the cut, okay. Yeah, no, it wasn't like that. Francis Yeah, no it wasn't like that I mean Like these guys it's not like I'm bringing that they're they're great like McKeever and the guy that's in it Who's like actually the main character is Steve Gerben and people are gonna love him. He's as funny as it gets. Yeah Yeah, it's easy to yeah, it's easy to work with those
Starting point is 01:20:02 He was it was it were you feeling like there's a big risk to fund it myself? Or you're like, I know it's going to be funny? No, because we did it with Gillian Keeves. I funded that. And it was like, we can just put it behind a paywall and I'll at least make it back. Or close to make it back. And then with me, it's easy because if we put all these sketches out, even if I didn't make the money back, it'll result in ticket sales.
Starting point is 01:20:24 And I'll make the money back, it'll result in ticket sales. And I'll make the money back that way. It's also nice to just run it yourself so nobody has any chance of telling you like, hey, take this out, don't do this. Or get embarrassed if somebody doesn't like one of the sketches that you do. That's a nice bit of freedom that- That's hard. That was hard about SNL is having zero creative control really.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Because I never work with other people. It's always me and my friends or stand up. Yeah, I really am not trying to be this guy being like, you beat the system, but have you had that thought, like I kind of beat the system? Because now it's like Netflix is like, oh yeah, we want to put your show on, SNL's inviting you back, all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I think that's a lot of your story arc where people are drawn to you because like you beat the system Yeah, you did it your way. Yeah, and and people ride for an underdog like that for sure I think though now that is the system. Yeah now you're right that that just is the system Now if you want to do comedy, it's like you kind of got to make it yourself Yeah, yeah, it's like we're talking to Stavi about that. Yeah, he's another guy doing your own thing and having all that control It's really the way to go Stavi also, I don't know if you heard the episode you did with us, but he's obviously a big Baltimore Ravens He's in he's in tires. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah a lot. Yeah
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah Yeah He he he had his brain set on the Ravens winning the Super Bowl on his birthday this year And then it took him like a week to process the loss He was just locked up in his apartment or his house in Baltimore just eating ice cream all day like just in the dark Thank you didn't need that fucking Ravens lost eat all that I'm so depressed. I think the first people to talk to him moved We had him on on like the Thursday after they lost. Yeah, he was having fun this season Yeah, yeah, he was like the face of the rave. I know
Starting point is 01:22:07 Became that it built up to this point where he was dead certain that his birthday They were gonna win the Super Bowl Then he was gonna party with the team and become best friends with everyone then when they lost just it crushed him If you're anything like Max who's also an Eagles fan, how's that Nova? They're actually coming back Told you yeah, yeah, actually coming back. We're cooking, we're cooking right now. Dude, I told you. Yeah, we're good. Out of game. We're good.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Out of game. Max was not that same way when the Eagles lost. He saw that coming like a mile away. As an Eagles fan, were you like, did you have any hope this season? This year, no. Yeah. I mean, when they were 10 and one, I was like,
Starting point is 01:22:39 Yeah. Fuck. We're doing it again. 10 and one. It was way different than last year though. Last year they were fucking, or the year before they were fucking people Yeah. It was way different than last year though. Last year they were fucking, or the year before they were fucking people.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Feels like magical. Yeah. Yeah, this year was very like struggling a lot. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was obvious. Yeah. But then you know, they get in the playoffs, you're like, hey, maybe they're...
Starting point is 01:22:56 Magic, yeah. Maybe they got a chance. I think I bet on them. Yeah. Because the Bucks was like, they've been there. It's like so fucking stupid. It's like, yeah. You've seen what...
Starting point is 01:23:04 The writing was on the wall with that. They were falling apart stupid You use the writing was on the wall Yeah, they were falling apart the entire the second half of the season was crazy soon as they lost big Dom It was over. Yeah, big Dom was that was what kept it all together He's yeah the so alright so Eagles the one thing that I feel like you have a cheat code to most comedians Maybe I'm wrong, but a lot of comedians aren't like huge sports fans. Is that, I feel like that's fair. Like, Burr's obviously, Bill Burr's a huge sports fan. We have him, whenever we have him on,
Starting point is 01:23:32 he just like rants about sports. We're like, great, didn't you have something to plug? It's like, but you get, like, I feel like all the athletes are like drawn to you because you're like, I'm a huge sports fan, I talk about sports on my set. All these guys can relate to me. Yeah, it's nice. No other comics really talk about playing football.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Right, right. Everybody played high school football. And you get to just eat it all up. Yeah, it's nice. It's fucking sick. It's easy. Every city you go to, it's like, oh, there's the entire offensive line of that.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Yeah, it's always the O-line. That feels good, dude. The O-line is always out there. Love seeing the big dudes. Yeah, you played it, was it Elon? Yeah. You played at Elon? Played one year, I sucked.
Starting point is 01:24:11 What was that like playing there? It was awesome. Other than getting my fucking ass kicked every day. Yeah. It was a cool school. So I've heard a good thing, I had a bunch of friends that went there because I grew up in Virginia,
Starting point is 01:24:20 so the good athletes, if they don't get into, Virginia Tech doesn't hit them, Elon's a good place to go but like did you start there? No I went well pretty much yeah I went to Army for three weeks okay your story about quitting Army is like the most relatable story ever because I just like if I had if you put me in West Point for a week I'd be like I want to go home right now dude quit, did I ever tell you that with a parade? No. Alright, so day one when you get to West Point,
Starting point is 01:24:49 they drop you, like your parents drop you off at like five in the morning, you go through, it's called our day, I think, and so that's where they like shave your head, give you fucking uniform, teach you how to march, and then at the end of the day, all the parents line the road, and the new the cadets march past them So they see their kids becoming soldiers and like my mom was waving like a little American flag And I was like marching past him. I was like I'm leaving. I'm quitting
Starting point is 01:25:14 Right when I got past I was like I'm fucking quitting. I'm out of here. I hate it. My mom was like Was it like day one you got there you're like like, I don't think this is the worst. I knew I was fucked like three months before I got there. I was like, damn, I'm fucked on this. They gave you, like, you know, any football program gives you like a workout program for the summer. Didn't touch it. Gains fucking 40 pounds.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Did you get your head shaved? Yeah. I still had to get my head shaved. You had to get your head shaved. I got sworn into the military. You gotta swear it in. So you were sitting, you were like flash forward like three weeks and you're sitting in your parents' basement
Starting point is 01:25:53 with your head shaved being like, that happened. No, it was, I had to go straight to Elon. Oh, okay. Because I quit, it was early enough at West Point. Bootcamp starts early before pre-season football. So I got to leave bootcamp to go to fucking preseason okay so that's a summer no that blue that was way harder than fucking West Point do you when you watch like the army-navy game do you find yourself rooting for army no I don't
Starting point is 01:26:19 give a fuck yeah a little bit a little. At first I was, there was still a part of me that I was like, yeah. Yeah, that's part of the program. Those are my boys. Did you make a friend? No. No, I didn't. You didn't have like a one connection? Like the first, you know, like everyone in like college, like your first week, you like meet that one guy,
Starting point is 01:26:36 you're like, we're gonna be best friends forever. Well, yeah, there were a couple guys, like we took like official visits together and recruited together, that I was like, yeah, that's gonna be my guy. Then I remember when I was quitting, I saw him, he was standing at attention watching me like walk by and he was like.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Wait, you had to walk by like a whole group of them? Yeah, when you quit you have to be in like a platoon of fucking quitters. No. And they still keep you there for like an extra week. How many quitters were there? There's a couple quitters, dude. There's probably not that many.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Out of a thousand there was like 20 of us, dude. I wouldn't I would quit before I even know you can't. Yeah, like I wouldn't have I wouldn't even signed up. I don't know what I was thinking. I for real don't know what I was. But that's like a very relatable thing. Like everyone has that where they're like, I'm gonna be great. Yeah, I could be the fucking president. I was like, dude, it was, but they get your parents. They do a really good job of getting your parents. So my parents were like, locked in. They were like, this is awesome. Our son's gonna be a fucking hero.
Starting point is 01:27:33 I remember telling my dad once, I was like, fucking, I gotta go to war? What if I fucking die? He's like, is that so bad? Die for your country? I was like, you didn't fucking, you didn't do anything. Why you fucking saying that to me? Dude, Big Phil rocks.
Starting point is 01:27:48 He does rock. His, Shade's dad is in a lot of his comedy. I, I was laughing so hard when you, cause I know you were like hard on yourself for your monologue for parts, but when you just like, like, yeah, I brought him just to roast him up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That rules. No, that was the other thing about the monologue. Like that's, you've seen me do standup. That's how I do standup.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Right. Like the whole time I'm in the room. I'm like, ah, you didn't laugh the monologue like that's you've seen me do stand-up. That's how I do stand right like the whole time I'm in the room. I'm like, ah, you didn't laugh at that. Whatever. Fuck you dad It's so nice if you do that in a month. That's no monologue usually isn't Somebody in the room fucking around like all the lights are bright. This is crazy. I can see all you right laughing Yeah, they were laughing you can hear that. It's very loud. Yeah laughter Yeah, and it's but that's natural And one of the jokes was about people not laughing was me being like, my niece has Down syndrome. I thought that would get a bigger laugh.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Oh, he's bombing. It's like, no, that's the joke. That's the same thing to expect to laugh for. Yeah. That was a, it was a great little stretch we had with you doing the monologue and then Sydney Sweeney. Yeah, did you meet her? America's so back.
Starting point is 01:28:44 No, I did not meet Sydney Sweeney. Fuck. But cool story. I was doing Radio City the next week while Sydney was doing Sydney, you know. Sid. Sid. How many Sid talk?
Starting point is 01:28:54 That's crazy. There was people, me and, it wasn't you, was it? No, it was James. Oh, it was James. We're standing on the corner by Radio City and these two people behind us are talking about it because my name was on there. And they're like, oh, that's the guy that got canceled.
Starting point is 01:29:12 He was on SNL. And then I turned around, I was like, I hear that guy's a fucking asshole. And then it was, they were like, oh, our daughter's hosting this weekend. And I was like, well, you're Sidney Sweeney's mom? Holy shit. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:29:24 And then they were like, yeah, we're here all week for it. And I was like, do you guys wanna come to a show? And they're like, yeah. Oh. I think Sydney Sweeney's mom came to my show. Do you think Sydney came? No. She was working, but otherwise she definitely would have.
Starting point is 01:29:38 She would have 100% God, I can't believe me and her are an item now. What? Dude, I actually do think that that's like your last step in superstardom. Sidney Sweeney? No, not Sidney Sweeney. But I'm going to predict it.
Starting point is 01:29:51 I do think you're going to date like a Hollywood A-lister, and everyone's going to be like, that's our hero, Shane. No chance any of these girls would put up with what I do. That's not true. No, yeah. You're funny. Funny means everything. No, yeah. You're funny, funny, means everything. No, if a girl's with me,
Starting point is 01:30:07 she watches me play Xbox for seven hours. They don't stick around, dude. What's your game? I can't change. Right, it fluctuates, but usually FIFA. How pumped are you for college football? I'm dead when that comes up. I'm shutting it down.
Starting point is 01:30:20 My whole life is gonna be over. Yeah. I mean, I did that for all COVID. Oh, we were talking about, yeah, me too. Yeah. I mean, I did that for all COVID. Oh, we were talking about that. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I had an online dynasty over COVID. It was the best.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Dude, I had, when I started doing it, because there was no sports, I was doing- Oh, I remember you guys were filming that. I had like 100,000 people watching lose the national title to the Virginia Tech. There was no sports on. We were so starved for sports. We were like, I would watch Big Cat play a video game.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Because I get to see the green green grass and I can see a ball And it looks like the scores on the on the TV And I feel like I'm actually watching it was great It was like fucked up in my house too because my wife would just be like why are you down? I'm like we had a fucking tough game We be me and my friends had well, they're not even like they're they are my friends now But so I when I so when I left Elon, I got an underage drinking and just left Elon.
Starting point is 01:31:10 I never went back to handle that issue. It's a theme now, yeah. So then, like a year later, I got a warrant for my arrest in North Carolina. Yes. And so my dad had to drive me back. This is ultimate rock bottom. I'm going to like Harrisburg Community College a year after I was supposed to be at West Point and
Starting point is 01:31:29 My dad had to drive me from Pennsylvania, North Carolina to go to court and so I had to get community service So I just coached like peewee football team These are all my friends little brothers. Yeah, it was the best. I actually loved it Yeah, but then me and those kids had an online dynasty together. I was like 23, they were all like fifth graders. And I was fucking running the score up on them. So then those same kids when COVID happened
Starting point is 01:31:57 are like adults now. And we got the dynasty back to college. It was wonderful, yeah, it was great. And you're the coach, that's hilarious. Were you Notre Dame? Do you play as Notre Dame? I usually don't You got to build you gotta get a conference to yeah, it's an online dynasty. You got to pick a conference Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Arch Manning is not gonna be in the new video game though
Starting point is 01:32:15 He saw that he said he's bowing out or he wants to focus on football So I don't know how that would distract him from yeah, I don't understand why they did that I think it's because that if you're a Texas fan, every Texas fan that plays as the Longhorns would, if you have the opportunity to start Eli Manning or Quinn Ubers, who's the started quarterback, you're going to start Arch Manning. You're going to put Arch Manning as quarterback, and then everyone's going to be like, yo, fuck Quinn Ubers, why is he playing in real life? Because everyone's playing as Arch in the video game. And I think Arch was trying to be a good teammate to be like, I don't want all this pressure
Starting point is 01:32:48 on my teammate Quinn. Oh, that's nice. Because everyone's going to play as me. I think he just, I think Quinn's the fucking man. Yeah. I honestly think that if he was like, if I was in a video game, I'd just play as myself the whole time. So when he says I want to focus on football, like I actually think he's being honest.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Oh yeah. Like I would just spend so much time playing as myself. Yeah. playing this myself. Because that's what I would do. Of course. Yeah. If you're in the game. A player is the left guard the entire game. Shane is being brought to you by Dave and Busters. The chance of getting a perfect bracket is one in 120.2 billion. Best of luck. For the rest of us, instead of not watching after our brackets busted, why not be rewarded for it? So this March, when you lose, you can win at Dave and Buster's. Throughout the tournament, we're washing away your sorrows with $2 beers. Terms and conditions apply. And anyone whose bracket has been busted can DM Dave and Buster's with a picture of their bracket across social media handles. In reward, Dave and Buster's will be giving away a million chips
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Starting point is 01:34:10 Have no idea probably Probably when I won Phillies funniest there's a tournament and a competition in Philly every year. That was a big deal Philly's like crush. He's doing well right now. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like all these funny like shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, are you garbage guys came out of there? Yeah, McCusker McKeever Tommy Pope O'Connor. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good group. Yeah, ain't Marshall. Lamar Lee Sean Gardini Get them all in there. Yeah, so funny cuz it's like a ron Everyone I feel like people from Philly have like a little bit sleazyness to him, but they love that part They like are very open about how sleazy they are. Whereas some other cities aren't that's why Boston was so good Yeah, Boston was Boston's like the best comedy city ever. Is there a bad comedy town?
Starting point is 01:34:57 Like maybe not from people from that town but like to play to do stand-up like yeah, there's like New Orleans and Miami or yeah I've heard that I've heard that about stand-up and also music like to play. To do stand up? Yeah. Yeah, there's like New Orleans and Miami. Yeah. I've heard that. I've heard that about stand up and also music. Yeah. Like it's tough to play shows in New Orleans because you're competing against everything. Yeah, everything.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Yeah. It's a parade of drunk people. Yeah. When we had Jay Okerson on, he was like, we're like, what's the best? He's like, just anywhere, pick anywhere in the middle of Ohio. Ohio's good.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Yeah, he's like, it rocks. Ohio's nice. It's just like the most average people. I think Boston and Philly are the, those are my favorite. Yeah. Boston's always good. Yeah, he's like it's just the like the most awesome. I think Boston and Philly are the those are my favorite Yeah, Boston's always good. Yeah, that was like the first place. I sold out a club. Yeah was Boston That's and now you're yeah, you're doing arena. You're doing one in doing some arenas. Yeah, we'll see how that goes I don't know how comedy fits in an arena, but whatever. Yeah Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Yeah. Probably. That's gotta be wild going out and not being able to see the back of the club. Not being able to see all the people that are there. The theaters, like last night, you can only see the front three rows. I'll go out at the end of the show and be like, oh, this is what it looked like. Damn, this place is nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:02 So what's next besides arena tours? What's the next thing that you wanna accomplish? College football time. I mean, arena tour's crazy. I don't know how long I'll do that. I'm gonna see what it's like. I would say making like some movies with like McKeever and my friends.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Yeah. Yeah, probably do that this year, hopefully. Be like the new Adam Sandler. Yeah, yeah. All your friends. That'd be perfect. That's gotta be the most rewarding part is just like all your boys are coming along for Pride. And they're coming down to Austin too. And it's like, yeah, that's like
Starting point is 01:36:32 what Ruff House did with McBride. Yeah. He has all his crew down in South Carolina. Yeah. That's awesome. That's so sad. My favorite thing Sandler did was he just started filming movies in Hawaii.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah, every movie. We're gonna have my boys. By the way, That's our movie I do it's in like, Florida Three months in Key West. Yeah. Yeah, Austin's a cool town How's it I've heard good and bad things about it as a comedy town So I lived there for about ten years, but it was before like the Rogan that whole yeah Like the comedy mothership or whatever went there how have you has it like changed since you've been down there?
Starting point is 01:37:04 I've only been down there since like November, but I was going there the last like two years Yeah, there's there's a ton of comics there now, and it's it is like a comedy town Yeah, people go there now to just go to the comedy clubs. Yeah, that's cool. It's just so fucking hot I mean it is fucking hot as hell you haven't even done a song I feel like you don't I'm all in the heat fuck no dude. It's gonna be inside You haven't even done a song. I feel like you don't I'm all in the heat fuck no dude. It's gonna be Inside for a hundred degrees yeah between like June and August every thank God for the college football game coming back Yeah, that's a godsend in the city. Yes Yeah, I Austin's uh I don't know I still obviously New York is still the best at comedy
Starting point is 01:37:38 Yeah, yeah, the comedy seller. I think is yeah Yeah, cuz they don't you have to get past there too and everything. That's how Rogan's Club is though Oh really? Yeah, they they adopted a lot of the stuff they were doing at the Comedy Store, which is like there's like door guys That's a cool thing so like at the Comedy Store you get you can get hired as a door guy and then work your way up to like Actually being a comedian there. Did you who passed you at the there when you like first started in New York? Did you who passed you at the there when you like first started in New York? Wait, which club you mean or yeah, like which will stand the stand Comedy Club booked me pretty early Yeah, and then the seller the seller I auditioned
Starting point is 01:38:16 I Took an Adderall that day. I didn't know it was an audition. So like three years ago I auditioned for like a Comedy Central show. Oh, it was Comedy Central Live at the Cellar. And I was hungover. I took an Adderall during the day, which I can't perform. If you take an Adderall, I can't do standup. I can't, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:38:38 I just get too focused, like nothing's funny. Like I'll say something, be like, why would I say that? It doesn't even make sense. But I just bombed my audition and then, like two years later they were just like, do you wanna work here? I was like, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Please. That rocks. You remember, at the Super Bowl. No, that was, No, I suck, whatever. Did you take an Adderall? I wish.
Starting point is 01:38:59 I'd be flying. You remember at the Super Bowl, was it last year when you were staying with Burt? Yeah. And showed up and then Max was texting who were you texting with Dallas Goddard? Yeah, Dallas Goddard It was like a different Dallas Goddard or something Yeah, it was it was a different Dallas Goddard's friend that was also named Dallas. Yeah who also knew my mutual I mean I got fucked there that was bullshit anyone would have thought that was Dallas God yeah, but except for the fact that he was asking what you were doing the night before the super Yeah, but Shane took your phone and
Starting point is 01:39:37 Texted him with some players up big time play. It was like so it was something It was sup it was a sup player and then sup player player And then he said what's up with you and you said you wrote back coolin It was sup no answer and then sup big player Is it exhausting hanging out with Bert because I feel like that I feel like that I think we like went into your room. Oh, I was yeah that's super well I was like yeah, cuz it films every day. It's kind of like barstool. Yeah, I don't like yeah, obviously. I don't like being on camera. Uh Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, he's cool with it. Yeah, like Bert will be like hey everybody. We're doing this activity
Starting point is 01:40:17 I'm just not I'm not doing that. Yeah, yeah, I think leave me alone that morning You were you were hungover you're sleeping in and then Burt just opened up your bedroom door Just completely naked and like Morning that week was hell that was a long week. That was a long week I mean we've day one Monday Texted me and you're like I'm gonna take it easy this week and then flash forward to like 1 a.m And Shane and I were not taking it easy. Yeah, and it was yeah It was like this is Monday night and you're I did not take it He did not take the opposite of taking it easy went as hard as you can
Starting point is 01:40:49 When you're supposed to be taking it easy That was a mistake. Yeah, I was a mistake. I set the tone for the week the rest of the week I was trying to catch up from one day or doing Monday. Yeah, it doesn't really get easier. Yeah Yeah, and then spending that whole week in the house with Bert and five other comics, just constantly like, come on, we're doing a podcast, we're filming something. I'm not doing a fucking podcast. There's a podcast he did, it's crazy how shitty I look. It was Bustin' with the Boys on Bert's cooking show,
Starting point is 01:41:20 and I was just walking around and they were like, Gene, get on. I was like, dude, no. I didn't talk, I didn't I was like, dude, no. I didn't talk. I did, I didn't say a word the entire time. I sat, I did one with Barstool too where I didn't talk. Oh yeah, with Kevin and Pikes. You can do a word count on that.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Did not speak for like two straight hours. I do feel bad because I was begging. I was in the fucking sun, dude. Yeah, yeah. I was just sitting there getting sunburned. You do do a lot of podcasts. Yeah, and I don't think it's good for me. me why I don't want to get overexposed you're that's you're this you're the Taylor Swift for for white man yeah yeah there's
Starting point is 01:41:57 only like so many jokes that you can say or like so many hours where you can be on yeah have your own podcast yeah and I have my own podcast and yeah I like this though this is nice yeah I wanted to do this and I know how, you have your own podcast. Yeah, and I have my own podcast. And yeah, I like this though. This is nice. Yeah, I was trying to make it. I wanted to do this. And I know how much you were trying to make it really. I was like, dude, I'll do it. I promise I'll do it.
Starting point is 01:42:13 We sent in the big guns. We had Hank get drunk with you. Hank got real drunk. Yeah, Hank's mission last night was like. How's Hank doing? I don't know, he's still young enough. Yeah, he seemed to be handling it well. Cause when we were leaving, he was banged up.
Starting point is 01:42:24 I was like, this guy's gonna gonna be he's not gonna make it dude he's on a hot streak he like lost his phone last weekend hanging out booking guests on the podcast last night did he really yeah he got fucked up but sort of way Nate you were terrible you embarrassed me yeah Nate's actually uh that's my friend Nate he's a black pedophile. Nate. What's the origin of that? Cause I think you said that last night.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Oh, I said it in front of Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice laughed at it. You were doing a show at the Super Bowl. All Super Bowl, yeah. In front of like a legend. Literally comedy nightmare show. In front, like at a dinner table, right? Yeah, it was this guy who's, he's a very rich guy
Starting point is 01:43:06 and he was like, do you wanna come to this dinner? And then it was, here's the list of the people that are gonna be at the dinner and it was, for real, it was like Dan Marino, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Michael Vick, Ed Reed, Shannon Sharp, Tony Gonzalez, Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, like it was the coolest fucking McNabb. And then he was like, can you do stand up?
Starting point is 01:43:29 He's like, do you wanna do stand up? And I was like, dude, I can't. There's no stage or mic. It's literally in his steakhouse. He's like, yeah, just stand up and do. Make us laugh. Oh. And I did say no and he was cool with it at first.
Starting point is 01:43:41 And then I realized how much he wanted me to do it. So I was like, all right, I'll do it. So I just had to stand up. And I was sitting with it at first. And then I realized how much he wanted me to do it. So I was like, all right, I'll do it. I just had to stand up. And I was sitting next to Jerry Rice. So I stood up at the table, started doing stand up, and I saw Jerry Rice at the beginning laughing and then just literally just a five minute set. And he's already like this standing next to me.
Starting point is 01:43:59 And then I ended it. I was like, ah, whatever, that's fucking Shannon Sharp. Don't tell Kat Williams I suck. This is my friend Nate, he's a black pedophile. I lost Jerry, I was like, haha. I was like, no, he's just doing that to me. Close. Made him laugh.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Yeah. Made him laugh. Like he basically did the like, oh, you do stand up, tell me a joke. Yes, but he was a big stand up fan. He's, yeah, he wasn't that type of guy. That's brutal I'm sure you get that a lot and he let me go though like it for he gave a speech at first and then he Was like and now and then I was sitting next to him. I was like no, I'm not going on right and he was like
Starting point is 01:44:36 All right, that's fine. Yeah, he was being nice. Did little Shane want to grow up to be a comedian or a football player? Definitely football and then our United States soldiers. I wanted to be a fucking US a football player? Definitely football. And then- Or a United States soldier. I wanted to be a fucking US Army soldier and protect this country. I'm gonna protect quarterbacks in the country, not a big deal. But then, yeah, I would say junior, senior year of high school, I was like,
Starting point is 01:44:57 it was when Old School came out. The movie Old School. And I remember watching my dad love it. I'll be like, damn, I wish I was Will Ferrell Yeah, and that's when that kind of started. Yeah, that's I mean Will Ferrell Yeah, I mean we're about the same age that yeah that string of movies was like even like old-school wedding crashers all those Yeah, fuck. This is awesome. These guys rock. Yeah, that was the best. Yeah, I did always fuck around Yeah, I was always trying to be funny. That was like the golden age for us, at least growing up a comedy. It was like
Starting point is 01:45:26 mid 2000s. I was talking to my buddy, uh, big T like two days ago and he was like, they haven't made a good comedy movie since like 2015. Or do you think that there's like not as good comedy? Yeah, no, they haven't really like old or a hangover was probably one of the last. Yeah. Yeah. Great ones. Yeah, they don't really make, like I guess Trainwreck got a lot of, I mean that was pretty funny, but still. Trainwreck, the lady, the girl one.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Oh, yeah, Bridesmaids is funny. Lady comedy. The girl comedy. Ghostbusters. Yeah, like oh yeah, girls can be funny. Girls are, yeah, they're very funny. Yeah, very funny. That one, I mean, I love Melissa McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Yeah. It is crazy, though, because it feels like every comedy now has to be like a sad story, too, where it's like, even, I love that movie that Pete Davidson did, the one- Staten Island? Yeah. That was great, and it was funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Or even like Silver Linings Playbook, which has funny moments. God, I love Silver Linings Playbook, dude. But it's also very serious. So you gotta save comedy. Yeah, bring it. I'm not trying to put pressure on you, but. No, but you're gonna make comedy movies set in Florida
Starting point is 01:46:34 and it's gonna bring this country back. Yeah. True. And as long as you say a couple slurs. I can say cracker. Yeah, Will Compton would be like, this fucking rocks. Will Compton. The comedy's back, dude. He said cracker on that music. This guy said gay. Yeah. Thank you for your surface. That was big
Starting point is 01:46:49 Do you know what was a crazy run? Did they say it bitch whack off? Yeah, hey retard I got some wild shit on there. Did they try to stop you with any no Lauren was awesome with that that's there was one moment where in between rehearsal where I ran the monologue and I forgot all those, I'd left all those out. And then in between rehearsal and the actual show, you have like a half hour. And I was sitting with him and I was like,
Starting point is 01:47:13 I didn't do everything I was gonna do. And here's some of the words I'm gonna say. And a lady was in the office with us and she got up to like, be like, I'll go check and see if we can say those. And he was like, don't check. I was like, just go do it. That's cool. Yeah, Lauren's awesome. Did he have a moment where he's like I fucked up
Starting point is 01:47:29 He had been like that. He yeah. Yeah, you had your day one. He was like I wanted you on the show Yeah, yeah, that's yeah I mean it was we were talking in the car like not that it's the same because yours is a very different that it happened like That but we had the similar thing with Barsal Van Talk where it's like get the show, lose the show. And everyone's like congrats, and everyone's like you guys suck. Congrats, yeah that was tough.
Starting point is 01:47:53 The amount of like when they announced me on SNL was just a million congrats dude, you did it. And then I didn't have time to respond to any of them. So then five hours later, whenever I started getting canceled, people were like, it's OK, dude. You're going to be OK. And then three days later, four days later, when I got fired,
Starting point is 01:48:11 it was like, fuck them anyway, dude. Fuck that job. I didn't reply to any of them. So you get to see someone be like, congrats, SNL's amazing. You're going to be all right. Don't worry about it. Fuck SNL, dude.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Who gives a shit? And then I'd be like, yeah, dude. Just reply to just the congrats ones be like thanks yeah after you get fired. But in a way and for us at least it felt this way might feel this way for you too. Uh getting fired after one show is way better than getting fired if it was like a month or two months later. Yeah I think so too. Because then you put all that work in yeah and then some people could be like oh you couldn't cut it if you were funnier you would have you would have made it. Yes but the fact that it happened so quickly,
Starting point is 01:48:45 it's like, okay, it's not us, it's them that are firing us. Right, yeah, and everyone spins it a different way where they're like, okay, it was powers above them that made this decision, not because they sucked. Which we probably would have sucked eventually. We did one episode and we were like, we never would have been able to sustain that.
Starting point is 01:49:04 So we got lucky. The first episode almost killed us. Yeah. Yeah. That was, you guys, I mean, McAfee's doing well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got that, that's what's so good about it. It's just a fucking podcast.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Well, it's just, it's just fucking around. Yeah. You know? The pendulum swung all the way back. The pendulum has swung. It has. It like, it was, there was a time and place where everyone was like, this is the new order and this is what,
Starting point is 01:49:28 people can't take risks anymore and then it's come all the way back. It's like, what the fuck? We'll see though. Yeah, oh you think it's gonna come back on us? I think this election's gonna swing it back. Oh yeah, we'll get hot. It'll go back to being, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Yeah, it's gonna get hot on the streets, you're probably right. How many times have people asked you to do the Trump, like just on the street? A lot, yeah. Yeah, it's gonna get hot on the streets, you're probably right. How many times have people asked you to do the Trump, like just on like the street? A lot, yeah. That sucks. I mean, it's better than, people ask me to take a picture and they'll be like,
Starting point is 01:49:53 can you do Trump real quick? And it's like, no, just take a picture, man. It's nice, why do we have to? But it's better, the worst is like, let's take a picture and then, can you do retard face? Dude, don't say it like that. Yeah, what the fuck? Did you do Trump face? Like, could you do a Trump face in a picture in there. Can you do retard face? You don't say it like that
Starting point is 01:50:05 Do you trump face like could you do a trump face in a picture? No what he does? Yeah, that's pretty good. I saw it there for a second. Yeah, you do the suck in that's so perfect. Yeah that yeah The guy they have on SNL is incredible. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking wild. Yeah, he's really good at like Incredible. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking wild. Yeah, he's really good at like Talking he can speak exactly how Trump talks like we filmed the sketch and he just would rant and be like I'm trying to think we did a sketch about like getting sneakers and he's like and they're not even giving sneakers to young men anymore What's happening? When I was here that wasn't the like he just goes it was really good. I'm not doing it proper But whatever no, that was good. Do I'm not doing it proper, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:50:45 No, that was good. Do you know Alex Jones? No. Have you ever met him? I have not, I do know of him. Yeah. Obviously shit rocks, but. I used to listen to him every day in my car
Starting point is 01:50:55 at lunch in Austin. When he was, this is what I don't like about what Alex has kind of become now is like, he used to be so much crazier back in the day. Like he used to be, he used to to get on the air and be like, Hillary Clinton is, she's actually a resilient and she smells like sulfur because she's the devil. And so I'd listen to that on my lunch break in Austin
Starting point is 01:51:13 in my pickup truck. Every day I'd get there, I'd get my sandwich, I'd turn on Alex Jones. And now it's like, I almost wanna say he's becoming too mainstream where he's nerfing some of his takes. And I miss the old-school like uncut out Hey, that happens all of us. I know in the end that happens all I know he Alex Jones went woke
Starting point is 01:51:29 He did go it's sad. I got sued for one billion dollars. Yeah It's also very funny think Alex Jones has a billion dollar yeah He might net he might get it. Yeah, I would love to be sued somebody sues me And they're like yeah, I think you have a billion dollars to give me I would be like thank you and that for one billion when he was on trial that the chili thing was like that We remember that where I was like he like answered a question They asked him like the names or to remember something in his past He's like, I don't know. I had a big bowl of chili that day. And so my mind wasn't really working
Starting point is 01:52:01 But it's like that's the truth. Yeah, but if you eat a big bowl of chili, it will fuck you up. Yeah You late like you eat a big bowl of chili you like I need to lay down somewhere. Yeah, I can't answer Anyone who's not like in tip-top shape like you eat any like a bowl of chili your bowl of chili Crush those palms up. Yeah Like you eat anything. You eat a bowl of chili. You're shot, dude. I crush those parm subs. Yeah. And I'm strong. And it just sits in your belly and you're just like, I don't want to do anything right now.
Starting point is 01:52:31 What was the answer you had? Someone was like, so you think the government covered up a pedophile ring or something? He's like, like Jeffrey Epstein? And they're just like, oh shit, yeah, maybe. Fair point. Yeah, that one you got us on. All right, we got a couple last questions. It's been awesome, Shane.
Starting point is 01:52:48 We'll have you back on any time you're in town. How tired are you? Your fucking, your schedule is insane. No, it's not, that's the thing, that's one thing that's, yeah. It's just as hard as it was. It was harder when I was, I would have to do like six shows
Starting point is 01:53:06 every fucking weekend at clubs in the middle of fucking Ohio. Right. Or like you'd have to go to the Albany Funny Bone and it's a blizzard and you have to perform six shows. And it was usually, it was Thursday to Sunday every fucking week. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:53:21 Now it's like, it's easier. Yeah. I just, I mean, like you guys like going every single weekend as hard as you guys do, it's crazy. Yeah, that's why most comedians are sober. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not there yet. Yeah, are you gonna get?
Starting point is 01:53:36 No. Dude, what if you got cleaned up and you got like jacked? It became like a fucking fad. That would suck, I would turn on you. I would turn on you. People are funny when they're fad. Trying to hide this fucking watch, suck. I would turn on you. I would turn on you. People are funny when they're fatter. Trying to hide this fucking watch, too.
Starting point is 01:53:46 I don't want to change. You haven't. That's the thing, though. And I say that with respect. Thank you. It's crazy. Because it is... You see people who have success and it's like, oh, they're a different person now.
Starting point is 01:53:57 It's like... I don't... Yeah, I'm older, though. Right. Like, I got it when I was this age. Right. 35, 36 is when it started. That does change you.
Starting point is 01:54:07 If I got famous when I was like 19, like some of these people, that's crazy. That would make me an insane person. Little sass is gonna change. Sass is gonna be a fucking dumbass. He's gonna OD or something. Yeah, no, it's true though. And I think that actually helps.
Starting point is 01:54:25 I know for myself personally, when people are like, what is your dream? Retirement's like, have enough money to lose at gambling. That's all I want to do is just watch sports and hang out. And it's like, if you change, then everything else, your show changes and your comedy changes and everything like that. For sure.
Starting point is 01:54:40 It's also like when people talk about retirement, what does retirement look like for me? I'm going to stop watching sports with my friends and then talking about sports right after the games. Yeah, that's my job. Yeah Yeah, I don't know. Why would I want to retire same? Yeah, but me too. It's like, what do you what do you want to do? And it's like I like stand up. Yeah. Yeah, I keep doing that. I'll sit and talk with my friends Yeah, a podcast once I get back down to Small clubs and the clubs are empty. empty, that'll still be fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Depressing. That's when it might be live from my mouth this fucking time. But yeah. Yeah. You got to just do one night show only like Madison Square Garden. It's going to be the Bud Dwyer show. Do you think that show would sell out if you advertise like, I will kill myself on stage tonight at the end of the show? Yes. People would buy tickets for that? I think people would be pissed if I did Promised us they call you out for an encore
Starting point is 01:55:35 And if that was yeah might string up a noose for that I'd be fucking sick hang yourself Keep your body up there next to the Billy Joel banner. Shane Gill's killed himself. Don't get me. All right, well last question, Roebak question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code take. Roebak has Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, everything, roebak.com, promo code take,
Starting point is 01:56:00 20% off for first purchase. All right, give me the Notre Dame, what do you think this year, record? How many games are you gonna go to? So there's a knock on Notre Dame, every year that they have a week schedule. They never do. No, they never do.
Starting point is 01:56:14 It's always top fucking 15 at least. They do, like every five years, when you get like a down USC, a down like, you know, Stanford. This year the schedule is weak. Oh, on paper. On paper. Okay, so it's A&M week one. I'll be there. Where's that? That's in it's in College Station. Oh, that'll be fun. Northern Illinois win at Purdue. Purdue always they're good for one of those weird games. Yeah, Purdue sneaky. I don't know. I don't know if writing off A and M at the beginning is a win. That's a tough. Yeah. That's new coach. Yeah. The
Starting point is 01:56:49 Notre Dame, the classic Notre Dame loss is usually at home to like a team that they should like. They lose to like Georgia Tech or Navy or remember when they lost like Yukon, like those weird ones that sneak up on you for sure. Florida state in South Bend. That's going to be your game. That'll be fun. Yeah in South Bend, that's going to be a good game. That'll be fun. Yeah, I think, I mean, they'll be good this year. And the playoff. The team's good.
Starting point is 01:57:10 The schedule is easy. Wait, who's your quarterback? They got that kid from Duke, Riley Leonard. Oh, he's good. Yeah, he's good. He's very good. He can run. They got better wide outs this year.
Starting point is 01:57:20 The O-line took a, they lost a lot. Yeah. But that's, Notre Dame feels like at least in the last like 10 years, they've been like an O-line took a they lost a lot. Yeah, but that's Notre Dame feels like at least be I asked like 10 years They've been like an O-line factory. Yeah, the so wait how many games you can go to? I'm gonna definitely go to a and M. I'm gonna try to go to Florida State I'll probably get to two or three. I love it. I love that Riley lunar He's going from Duke to Notre Dame like he's just trying to make everybody hate him. respect that I respect that yeah that is that is a very but you see the schedule they're probably yeah no there's not 11 and one yeah and then get
Starting point is 01:57:53 fucking smoked in the playoffs against somebody yeah that how bad I have a buddy who's like a die-hard Notre Dame fan and he was I remember getting live updates from the national title game against Bama, and it just went dark after the second quarter. I was just like, ooh. I mean, that was over quick. Yeah. Oh, so 2026 we're playing at Lambeau.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Oh, nice. Gotta go. Hell yeah. The first week of the season. Hell yeah. That's gonna be awesome. Actually, me and Soda, this is something we could do. Me and Soda, we're talking about when NCAA comes out,
Starting point is 01:58:22 getting a house, getting a bunch of dudes and getting a dynasty going. Just doing like a full weekend dynasty? Yeah. I'm in. You're in? Yeah, fuck yes. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 01:58:33 Dude, although how, let me ask you this, because when I did my whole Twitch thing during COVID, I was always like a good nine, 10 wins, and then I realized just running the ball like wins championships Yeah, but that's annoying to play again. No, dude. That's how you don't care. Alright, so you don't like like in like kneeling I'm new. Okay That's like a touchy subject like, you know online playing like do you want to play for fun or you want to know? We're playing to win. Yeah. Yeah, cuz then it's like I run the ball and man. I
Starting point is 01:59:07 Manage the clock. I run this I slam the same I punt it's like basically the same run up the middle and then like a slant that's unguarded yeah and they just do that over and you can find glitch plays like that yeah no James playing army next year to house divided oh yeah are you gonna like change jerseys at halftime now? What we're like a gillis army. He's still my dad still wears like army gear. Yeah, he's still prepped He just loves Westwood he hates he's ashamed of me So you could never be a cadet All right, well Shane, thank you
Starting point is 01:59:48 Everyone I mean you have a tour. Where's your you're sold out. Yeah. But everyone watched tires when it comes out on tires is coming out in May. Yeah. And he's going to be everywhere. I'm proud of that. I will say I went and saw him last night. If if Shane's in your city, you have to go see him. Like it is. It's so fun. He was at the late show for the record. Yeah. A bunch of people that were at the early show going, yeah, that's sucked. No, but dude and we were saying I was saying the car like the fact that like you went from an incredible special Beautiful dogs on Netflix to almost instantly you have a whole new hour. It's like how the fuck I'm trying Yeah, do people travel around and like see you at different shows like yeah dead for sure And are they like expecting new jokes at every stop? Uh, I don't know, but.
Starting point is 02:00:26 That'd be such a- No, they seem happy to do it. Yeah, just, to me it would never occur to me to follow a comedian around. I think the second show would be like, oh fuck, he's doing the same act. Yeah. I'm not gonna go see this.
Starting point is 02:00:37 Right, I guess like I know where this joke is going. Yeah. They probably just make friends with people, like they know their type. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, I like Shane Gillis fans, so I'm just gonna travel around and hang out with them. Who the fuck likes that? It's a rowdy group. It is fun. Yeah it is a fun group. Yeah we had that in Arizona when we were playing Shane and I were
Starting point is 02:00:53 playing shuffleboard on the same side of the table and a guy like comes up and I was like I'm gonna have to take a picture and Shane's like no no that's one of my mutants. And like two minutes later the, the guy comes up, he's like, hey, Shane. They're not all mutants now. Yeah. That was back then. They were mutants. That was original. Those are the original podcast mutants.
Starting point is 02:01:12 You could see them coming. You're like, oh, I know. Yeah, you can see those guys. They just look like me. I can see me walking over like, oh. It's like, yeah, that's me. You like walk into a room before they even see you, you're like, that guy's gonna say hi. 100%. A little bit, yeah. yeah, that's me. You walk into a room before they even see you, you're like, that guy's gonna say hi.
Starting point is 02:01:27 100%. A little bit, yeah. If they look like me. That guy's excited about it. All right, well thank you, Shane. No, thank you guys. Appreciate it, man, you're the best. And yeah, whenever you're back in Chicago,
Starting point is 02:01:38 or maybe we'll come down to Austin. Hell yeah. Yeah, we'll do it again. Maybe we get on Matt and Shane's. Maybe the Dynasty House. Yeah, come down and do Matt and Shane's. Yeah. Wherever you want. Sass and Rone have done it. Oh, have you had it again. Maybe we get on Matt and Shane. Maybe the Dynasty House. Yeah, come down and do Matt and Shane's. Yeah. Where's the Dynasty House?
Starting point is 02:01:46 Whenever you want. Sass and Rone have done it. Oh, have you had Frank the Tank on yet? No. Bring Frank. We got it. Come down to Austin and bring Frank. Frank on Matt and Shane's secret podcast would be
Starting point is 02:01:55 Please, dude. Incredible. I would love to see Matt and him. Oh, they would get along. That would be perfect. Matt's so fucking funny. Matt's incredible. Yeah, go see Matt, by the way. That's another thing. Matt's stand up is He's actually gonna be in Schaumb of that's so fucking funny. That's a crowd. Yeah, go see Matt. Yeah, that's another thing
Starting point is 02:02:05 Matt stand up is he's actually gonna be in Schaumburg. Oh good weeks. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, but yeah that Frank and you guys All right, we're good. I don't even want to be on it I just want to watch it, please like a live watch of please bring us friend and then just let you guys keep going Yeah, like when I've been recording anymore, please it's just it. Yeah I remember I remember the first time you met Frank and I was you were like you were like awesome. Cause I'd seen him on obviously online and I didn't think I didn't know it was as real. Yeah. It was I think it was I just walked by him and I was like yeah the Mets suck. Instantly. I felt terrible. It's my bad. No
Starting point is 02:02:42 you feel that's that's the thing with with Frank is like sometimes It's a little bit quiet in the New York office and you want to mix things up a little bit You just be like hey what happened the devil's game last night? You got rattles, okay, and then you keep walking and then you let everybody else around him deal with the fallout Sass's setup was my favorite little sass was between him and another unit. There's a big guy was a dog Yeah sass and little unit there's a big guy was a dog yeah sass and little sasses desk was between them yeah he said they were ordering they were ordering more grubhub while eating just sat between two giant dudes that just munched all day
Starting point is 02:03:19 Frank is the best yeah he's the best. All right. Well, thank you, Shane. Thank you guys. Shane Gillis is brought to you by Topgolf. It's golf. It's not golf. It's Topgolf. If you've never heard of them, they have all the stuff to make them legit golf. They have balls, clubs, turf, even a ball picker up or cart thing, but they're very much not golf too. We're talking loud music, giant targets, climate controlled bays, and unbeatable food and drinks day or night. There are a lot of big sports moments coming up soon, especially in March if you're into college basketball and baseball. So if you want to catch the games as you play, Topgolf is the place. Since they want everyone to play, they just launched half off golf Monday
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Starting point is 02:04:19 Go to that URL, check out half off golf Monday through Wednesday at Topgolf.com slash PMT. Okay let's wrap up with Matt online. Hank. College football playoff should be played on Saturday and the Monday after Super Bowl and should be a national holiday. Wait Monday after Super Bowl? Saturday before Super Bowl and Monday after Super Bowl. That'd be the longest season ever. Very long break. What kind of rule though, you get players
Starting point is 02:04:48 in the transfer portal playing on the team then? Yeah, yeah, you get some new blood. You just get to add some roster guys. If you do that, you should do, the semi-finals should be like one per week. Yeah, I don't agree with this. I do not agree with this. That is, does the person realize we already moved the Super Bowl back?
Starting point is 02:05:06 Let's just focus on trying to get the Super Bowl to Presidents Day weekend so we get a Monday after that and also we can get the Super Bowl to the end of February and When you finish the Super Bowl, you're like, oh, it's spring. Yeah, that'd be nice. That's all we got to focus That's too much of a break because you already have a massive break in December for college football. Yeah. And then doing it obviously bowl season but for the teams that are in the playoff. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:30 Big10Ocho says that NIL should be capped. They can have different rates for five stars, four stars, et cetera, and then bonuses for Heisman All-Conference, et cetera. Then players can sign unlimited endorsement deals so the best players, Manziel, Caitlin Clark, can still make more money off their popularity. Wait, is this mad online or part in your take? I feel like these are part in your takes. Yeah, part in your takes.
Starting point is 02:05:51 So wait, are they saying, how are they saying the most popular players can get more money? They can sign unlimited endorsement deals, which I don't understand. So that sounds like NIL is unlimited. Not capped, yeah. I do think that college sports should get to a point where it's an actual salary cap. That would be cool. I think, well I tend to agree with Jay Billis' take that it should just
Starting point is 02:06:13 be multi-year contracts for players. Because the big thing is if you get one year of a player then they leave, that stinks. I think it's bad for the sport overall and it's bad for ratings. Yeah, the transfer, I don't like, I know they're like chicken and egg, but the transfer portal bothers me. The NIL never has bothered me. Yeah, players should get paid. But it's obviously because the NIL causes the transfer portal. Yeah, they should get paid whatever the market tells them they should get paid.
Starting point is 02:06:38 They're adults, they're working, they should get money for it. But also in the interest of the good of the sport, doing multi-year contracts would keep players around and then obviously the fan base would grow custom these players. It'd be good for ratings, good for ticket revenue, good for future players going to the schools too. Dolph says, a mad online take for someone getting older. Why do these sports leagues cater so much to the West Coast with game times after 9 PM? 75% of the population has to either be either East Coast or Midwest. Why do these sports leagues cater so much to the West Coast with game times after 9 p.m.?
Starting point is 02:07:08 75% of the population has to either be either East Coast or Midwest Why does it matter if a game starts at 4 p.m.? West Coast? Not a lot. Wait what games start at 9 p.m. NBA games, but those are no less. I think they're talking about like the college games on Thursday and Friday this week. Oh That's super late, but that's starting late because it's back to back games in the same location. No, that's it's starting later on just to screw Danny Hurley for some reason. Got it. Yeah, that is true. Um, I'm yeah, I mean, I do agree in principle that like Monday Night Football when we lived in New York, like starting at 8 15 sucks. Uh, and I do also agree in principle that that if you live in California, suck it up because you live in California because you get to tell everyone you don't have winter and you live by the beach. So you don't also get sports times. But other than moving Monday
Starting point is 02:07:55 night football and Sunday football up a half hour, I don't really know. There's not a lot that you can do about it. There's not anything that's glaringly like, man, this is starting way too late. No, and also you can be, if it's starting starting late you can just say well I'm a real sports fan I'm gonna stay up and watch it. The the thing that they should focus on instead of the start time is just getting the start time correct. I agree. That's the that's the thing we need to put all our effort in when you say a game is gonna start at 8 o'clock started at 8 o'clock don't start at 820. It's
Starting point is 02:08:22 always what do they use like 807? Yeah. When they get down to the minute? It's the one thing that I will say positive about the sport of soccer is they do a very good job of starting exactly when they're going to start and you know that you only have two hours that you have to watch it. Well, unless there's added time. Added time. And extra time. It's usually never.
Starting point is 02:08:42 And then PKs. Yeah, I mean, well, I'm talking about regular season. Yeah. No English Premier League game is going to go more than like two and a half hours at most. Yeah, they got that right. And honestly, I like waking up and watching EPL on TV. I feel like I'm in California. And you know the time is going to start.
Starting point is 02:08:56 You know exactly when it's going to start. It would be funny if EPL started to adjust their start times for American audiences though. Yeah. They should do that actually. Well, they kind of do with the, like they've added like the afternoon games are kind of like that. There should be a midnight game. Yeah. Just for just for us Americans. We won the Revolutionary War. We should get your soccer. All right. Last one. Kay Nasty is mad in line about Masters TV coverage. This is a good one. Best golf tournament of the year and we cannot watch
Starting point is 02:09:22 all of it live in 2024. It's a joke put it all on TV or online I don't care, but I want to watch it Thursday morning. Also Keegan Bradley plus 10,000. Okay, so he said that or you did He said that yeah, just a public service reminder Redownload the Masters app the Masters app is beautiful, but it doesn't have every yeah, it's got like featured holes and featured group I completely agree with this take it's absolutely insane, but it also is gotten better though. It has gotten better, but Augusta just loves being able to flex and be like, we get to do whatever the fuck we want. It actually pisses me off Thursday and Friday. It is what it is because it's like during work and I want to check in here and there. It pisses me off on Saturday
Starting point is 02:10:00 and Sunday when you can't watch any live coverage on TV until like two o'clock. Why is there no way for every major PGA tournament to watch every player at every hole? It's crazy. Like on an app. A lot of coverage. No, we've got the technology for it Hank. Cameras. We're going to do that for mini golf.
Starting point is 02:10:18 Yeah. You won't miss a player, right Hank? Yeah. Well, that's 36 people, not 150. One good way to shut up anyone that would be upset about the Liv PGA merger would be to just have Saudi Arabia buy infinity cameras. This is what Liv's bringing to the table. We're buying let's say 20,000 cameras so we'll have every hole covered and then we'll build
Starting point is 02:10:41 an app where you can just click on each individual golfer and get to see every shot they take. Here's an idea because the PGA needs money. Why doesn't every player have their own personal app and you have to download that player's app and you can watch everything they do forever. And then it also would add the added bonus of being like, oh, this guy has literally no one watching him. Yeah. You get to, or what if every hole has its own app that would work to every hole in America
Starting point is 02:11:08 Yeah, every hole I like that which hole would you download first? Probably the Amon's corner, whatever the fuck it's called. Yeah, yeah, or 16 16 out of gusto be good one with vernon long quest just there forever. I download 17 at sawgrass first. Yeah We got some ideas for you. I got two. I shot two. That's right back. Thanks.
Starting point is 02:11:29 Yeah, the Masters covers those sucks. It does piss me off very much every year. I just want to be able to wake up on Saturday and Sunday and put it on my TV. That's all I want. And I think maybe golf, does Golf Channel maybe have some stuff? But it's just.
Starting point is 02:11:42 ESPN Plus. You just fight it. And then you see it and you're like, you got your TV on CBS and now you're just watching like Jim Nance interview like Arnie Palmer for the 7,000th time. Just give it to us. Yeah, shout out PGA Tour Live.
Starting point is 02:11:56 We have, when we go live, the main feed starts at 6 a.m. and they bounce around for all those tournaments. I think maybe big trackers behind this. All the online golf trackers, they don't. Yeah, I those tournaments I think maybe big trackers behind this all the all the online golf trackers They don't want you to see every hole because then you have to follow the the Max Homa tracker the Brooks Koepke tracker Who's the other guy? She who came to Kim tracker. Yeah That was wait. No who is Oh Tony Fina was our friend Colby. He would do that
Starting point is 02:12:22 He would become Tony Finau was our friend Colby. He would do that. He would become Tony Finau tracker on the weekends The tracker world I would love we should actually have some of these trackers show up and just interview I I would like to do that with trackers and I would like to do that with all the aggregator accounts in the NFL Just get them in a room together. It's probably just dope at one point to see who Kim tracker Just started bashing me from the tracker account. Yeah Was like what the hell is going on here? I've been I've been supporting account. Yeah. I was like, what the hell is going on here? I've been, I've been supporting you for years. He's like, I just hate Philly sports. Remember? I love that. I got into it with the Brooks tracker. We
Starting point is 02:12:52 had a jinx off about Brooks. Who do you think is it was like right before the masters on Saturday and we just were fucking in the, in the gutter war about jinxing. I would love to, who do you think is the golfer that has? Like the least amount of followers on their tracker Hmm. I don't know. There's a fire rookie who someone just started. Yeah, the gala No, that guy's definitely got a trackers got a tracker for sure. That's just Blutman Blutman's the gala. He's just all up in in the gala shit. Yeah, we should get some track. Okay, Jake now He just won a tournament. He has seven followers.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Okay. Okay, get in early. A Knapp tracker. He's great. He used to be a nightclub bouncer and he won a few weeks ago. He was in our feature group for our Barcelona corn fair event, but Jake Knapp tracker has seven followers. Get in on it. Yeah. Yeah, and then the trackers like when a tracker like takes a day off of a tournament That's illegal. You should be yeah, you should be banned from tracking
Starting point is 02:13:49 There was one track was like I'm gonna play 18 this morning, so I won't be able to track shut the fuck up That's your only job you track wait this dude. That's what you do you track this dude Jake Knapp was a nightclub bouncer Yeah, he looks kind of skinny to be a nightclub bouncer, huh? Well, he's joddy him a great swing. He's awesome. You think he had a golf club when he was bouncing. Yeah smash people alright Good show. Thanks again Shane Gillis numbers 48
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