Tell Em Steve-Dave - #580: Mother Ducker
Episode Date: December 10, 2023What’s old? Blue October, Kiss, and Zombie concerts. What if Bry returned from the dead?...
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I haven't seen him put food in his mouth yet.
That's a surprise. Thank God for Walt Flanagan.
We can't get through a video making a video about Adam shit in his pants.
A nurse I think must not Johnson put his pants. Tell him, Steve Dave.
Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him, Steve Dave.
I look around this table and I see such an array of beautiful faces.
Walt Flanagan, how you doing?
Walt, yeah, Walt Flanagan, everybody.
Walt Flanagan.
All right, let's do it for Walt.
Yeah, be cute.
Hey, all right.
We got to be cute. I had some devil. All right, be cute. Yeah, yeah walk that again. All right, let's do it for wall. Yeah, be cute. Hey, all right. We got to be cute.
I had some devil.
All right, thank you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get him.
All right, let's get him.
Get him.
I was thinking about you this morning,
and I don't want to drive this into the ground too much
because we covered a lot of it last week.
But, Q, I'm not even sure if you're aware of this,
but Ralph Serella from the house,
Cerncia has died.
No.
Yes.
Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, he died. He died yesterday at 58
We're not sure but it appears that he had an illness that he was not addressing
He didn't have health insurance and he would never go to the doctor and he didn't make it a priority
I said his stylist. Yeah, I was his stylist, yeah. I remember him.
Wow, I liked Ralph.
I know a lot of people had issues with him.
But he's been, I mean, that's such a weird thing.
I'm experiencing right now because it's like he's been part of my life since the late
80s when they did the channel line show.
Yeah, I never met him.
I saw him once at a party, but I never met him.
But like, you know, you just listen to a guy for decades and
Wow, oh man. What a bummer. Yeah, Ralphie kicks gone. I love every time he called I liked it
I always liked him. Did he survive the transition from
Howard Cernival to the to the car? Oh, yeah, yes
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Gene change, but the well, I think it well, the change in tone and all that stuff.
And yeah, he survived it. Most of them.
Interest remains the owner like coward, like benefited from having.
Or benefits from having the.
Guys around them who are still.
Doing the sort of crazy or stuff that I used to do.
So he gets to have that respectability now a little bit, but it's all still there.
Yeah.
Oh man, it happened yesterday?
It happened yesterday, I believe.
That's how we're talked about it this morning.
Oh, he's got to be devastated.
He sounded like he was getting choked up.
He didn't break down or anything.
He wasn't joking about anything.
Wow.
I wish I hadn't started the show by telling me that because I'm like, you know, breakdown or anything. He wasn't joky about anything, you know, he... Wow! That's...
I wish I hadn't started the show by telling me that because I'm like, kind of, way right now.
Oh, man.
What's that?
You look bamboozled.
I...
He doesn't know what to think.
Yeah, I mean, I guess at the end of the day, you know, I don't...
He didn't know I exist and I don't know him, you know?
But I don't know, it's all...
You put yourself up against him in terms of age and be like well if he died of 58
Oh, I think about that all the time anyway me too. Oh God. It's coming around the bend
Clearing at the end of the path. It's on its way
But Norman Lear
Norman Lear were who were just talking about 104
101 But Norman Lear. Norman Lear, who we were just talking about. 104. 101. 101.
Yeah.
Still.
Still.
So pretty good.
So who knows, you know?
My grandmother always wanted to live to be over 100.
She made it to 98.
But she wanted to live to 100.
So she could get a letter from the president.
That was her big thing.
Oh wow.
I think when you turn 100 level, the president,
current president.
The current sitting president will send you a letter
And congratulate you all right, so I'm gonna look forward to I guess so yeah, I mean who knows who's gonna be president by that time
You know, well, let's see it would how many more terms would it be if you're 55 now the four terms so another fucking ten term
Yeah, it's gonna be a while. It's gonna be a bit
Yeah, best case scenario. It's gonna be a while. It's gonna be a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, best case scenario, it's eight years each president, right?
So that's best case.
So it's quite a few presidents.
Mm-hmm.
It'll be good.
Everything'll be fine.
It's gonna be fine.
It's gonna all work out.
Why is everybody so worried?
Everybody's all worried all the time.
I'm fretting.
It'll be fine.
I'm just gonna be fine.
Everything's gonna be fine. I do have some good news here, though.
The winner of the four color demon guitar from the American musical supply is Eric
Little of Mary on Indiana. And we're going to see a picture of that up on
all right. TSD town later on today.
Congratulations. But you're going to say Eric Johnson of California.
So thanks to American musical supply and everybody who entered sorry, you know you ended up like you guitarless guitarless
Tarless and Staten Island. What can you do though?
Nothing. I don't play guitar and I already have like two so this
Like that one would have been cool to put on my wall
I definitely would have hung that in my office. Hey, you never know. I never never know what that you know,
I want to win a who's who's going to go to bat for you with this?
No, it's gonna pass me. Can't get a fucking practical joke.
His pop figure made you think I'm going to get a custom guitar?
Well, what's the thinking behind that wall?
I mean, you got to tell us the inside story that there is absolutely no
inside story. There has to be everything. Did you guys ask for too much money?
We've never, not you guys, but you're, but true.
Did they like make the licensing fee just to,
No, they've been plenty.
There's been like four or five action figures of us by now.
But yeah, but pop is like,
I think it's willing to do anybody at this point.
And when you guys would have been a surefire
massive mover on the shelves. We would have sold some you guys would have been a sure fire massive
Mover on the shelves. We would assault some we would have moved some product I think I truly believe it's because comments I've said about the company here on
Tell us you did you said something negative about the pop company?
I've said I've taken a cute a couple of shots at them here and then when that was clear that they weren't
Going to ever in just or did you give us? Yeah, yeah, okay, and then And then when it was clear that they weren't going to ever. In just or did you see it?
Yeah, yeah.
And then when it became clear that, well, no,
we talked about how, like I remember talking about how,
you know, as far as collectibles goes,
there's billions of them.
Why did that?
I think you called them the next.
Beanie babes.
Beanie babes and stuff like that.
You know, and then when it became clear
that they were never gonna do it with us,
I think I just came out swinging on an episode against them.
It was still a headscratch here. There has to be some reason why they didn't pursue or
why it never worked out. I have any talks in that.
Never heard a single thing about it. Who would handle that true or would you be yurking?
Well, true. I guess, well, if they wanted to make like just one of us They can make one of us. They don't need true
If just wants to have practical jokers on the thing which I'm guessing you want
That you want that late brain recognition. Could they do tenderloins? They could yeah, yeah, I just think that they they
Maybe you know much like a lot of people they just don't give a fuck
I can't imagine they don't give a fuck because they would fucking sound like crazy.
Like your fans are the type who want those parts.
I believe that's the misstep that Migo took when Star Wars came out in 77.
Migo had first opportunity to make Star Wars figures and they're like,
PASS.
Oh, I can.
And Ken or then, Ken or then scooped up Star Wars.
And then M go limped to
Yeah, and the grave about three years later. You're like the 70s finish line. Yeah, Hawking, you know
Buc Rogers
Nobody cared about and we're not Star Wars
And you're not a Buc Rogers
We're not Star Wars and then also me go and then ended up making an impractical joke as figure of us.
So they're down with spiral contenders.
I was like, oh, I'm not touching that.
Yeah, because you were like a spider.
As a spider in the long, yeah.
It is a scratcher.
We watched a video the other day of a pop display somewhere and the amount of horrible,
horrible pops that are just in abundance.
Yeah, so I mean, there's always going to be those hits, singles, home runs.
Sure.
And misses and strikeouts.
And no, any company acquiring that many licenses and just grabbing anything and anything that
comes down the pike and making a pop figure of it, you know, you're going to have some
ones that don't sell as well if not at all.
Yeah.
And then it'll be some that like, you know, you can't keep in stock.
Would you like cars?
Yeah.
Well, they were geniuses on that level.
Yeah. Super limited. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I guess. I didn't know there was a difference. Yeah, I didn't really know. All summer, bobble heads and summer. I guess regular.
Okay.
I guess regular.
If you do get a maid, get them so that you guys have regular feet and you can stand up.
I can't stand the fucking pops like Sage has a bunch.
Yeah.
I have like the tiny little feet and are constantly falling over at least fucking.
I don't think it's ever going to happen so I don't think you have to worry about it.
You know, we have a company called PodPals and up in commerce.
We could.
We could churn out. Yeah. Yeah. As long as you don't
mind your character. We're in some of this mask. We got under the radar with that first one. Do you
think we should really push it? Just put a practical joke right on it. I would add a little
with that final step. What's this pod pal thing? With a Z. Yeah, no, I know I know I get your pod pals at tell them Steve Dave.com
Baron
Go there now check it out. It's fucking beautiful. Oh, it is. Yeah, but I mean it's sad about Ralph man
I said I'm saying I can't stop now. It's in my head. Yeah, yeah
Well, I did want to ask like I did want to ask you guys what when do you become an old man?
Is it an age? I don't want to hear the like you're only as old as you feel bullshit.
I remember watching this 2020 show that you recommended years ago and you were telling I mean
we're talking early 90s. It had part of it was this these old people who are like they're just like
you know teenagers teenagers again,
and you're like, I saw this guy going off a diving board,
you have to see it.
He looks like the diving board himself.
He's so stiff, like going into the water,
he almost just sort of falls in,
but they're trying to convince you that, you know.
Yeah.
These guys are, what was it?
Like cocoon and shit, you know.
How old was that guy?
He was in his 90s? I mean, come on.
I you know, well, you heard that guy from last week, right?
What the guy that said to you is like, I'm 93 years old, mother fucker.
And he didn't have the old man shuffle. I think that's the big indication when you start to see the shuffle.
That's when you're the old man. You know, you've crossed over and it's just a matter of time.
But as long as you don't have the old man. They know you've crossed over and it's just a matter of time. But as long as you don't have the old man shuffled, I think.
Got a little bit of spring to your stuff.
You can pass it.
Vitality.
Yeah.
It's when that shuffle sets in.
I think it comes down to like conditioning too, because you could like not get stiff.
You could work out.
You'll just do flexibility and you'll do...
If you see Bob Weer, the grateful day guy like us, he works out, you wouldn't even
fucking believe in the guy's having his late 60s now. Jack Lillane. Jack Lillane, sure.
Yeah. It's like people I think just slowed down. I think every year for his
birthday, he would pull He would toe
Robots filled with enough robots to go his age filled with people
Like when he was 88 he towed 88 he swam with pulling 88 robots with 88 people and he's proved the point without
Why you get no water? Yeah, yeah, that's not
Had last boat had a propeller
Well my birthday is tomorrow, so what do I do?
Do I?
I thought I was a good day.
We're recording this on.
No, no.
No, that would have been today, actually, according to some people's messages.
Oh, OK.
I was just telling Q, Mary-Beth has me.
She's like, what day is your birthday again?
And I thought she meant like what date?
And I was like, could it be?
Could it be so great for the show and for us
that she also forgets, but she just wanted to know
what day it was on.
I don't know, man.
Crossing over, okay, because now,
this is why I always think it have in terms of like,
I was, I'm 55, right?
So I'm still halfway there, but now I'm 56,
I'm more than halfway to 60.
Yeah.
Yeah, how do you do that?
Most are to 60 than the 50.
I don't like it.
Yeah, I like it.
I don't like it.
What do you...
Especially with this recent Ralph Serelandoos.
Oh, yeah.
It's like, I don't...
I think it's natural when somebody dies.
It's like close to your age.
You make it about yourself.
Where you're like, oh, if it could happen to him.
I couldn't happen to me.
Sure.
Question your own mortality.
Of course.
Yeah, I don't know man
I when did you notice have you noticed anything in yourself that you're like man
I got to keep an eye on that because that is that is an old man like way of thinking that as an old way man of doing things
I gotta watch that. Yes. Yeah, I've noticed this is why
Thank God for Walt Flanagan. Oh, yeah, Thank God for Walt Flanagan for so many reasons.
Yes.
Not gonna be, but Qley has an hour.
Okay.
So I'm just gonna go into all the reason.
I'm just gonna go with this one reason for right now.
And that's the Walt, you know, he watches all the video.
Yeah.
If we shoot something for Patreon, patreon.com slash TESD.
If you're not there, go on over, go on now.
Walt watches all the video, make sure everything is in line
and everything's cut right, everything's edited.
Nothing slips out that, you know.
That shouldn't be a disaster.
Now if Walt were to say to me, like,
hey, can you do it?
I wouldn't want it.
I hate watching my hate, watching myself on video.
And I had the unfortunate experience of doing it recently.
I had to watch
something and I'm sitting there and before I talk I'm like going like doing this
little chewing old man chewing chewing on nothing it's not like I have gum or I'm
eating something I'm just you know you've noticed it really damn I never say it
allowed I gotta bring it up do I do it all it aloud. I'm sure. Yeah, I know. I gotta bring it up.
Do I do it all the time?
Because I just noticed on video.
I don't, it's not all the time.
It's not all the time.
I wonder if it was maybe new meds or something.
Could be.
I wonder if there was, yeah, there was such an alarming constant of it that I was like maybe
it's just like some sort of reaction to
medication or something.
Could be, yeah.
Like dry mouth.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's just like a chew and I was like, I haven't seen it put food in his mouth,
yeah.
That's a surprise.
So I don't think he's actually chewing food here.
There was no cow in the store.
He's chewing nothing.
Yeah, I got a human eye on this. Yeah, so you had
I even noticed it in real life though. Oh, just on video. Yeah, only on video, but I haven't I actually haven't noticed it quite
Sometime though. It was an older video that I noticed. Okay. It has subsided a lot because I haven't noticed it recently. Okay. So maybe that's not as bad as I thought it was
Okay. So maybe that's not as bad as I thought it was. Right.
Old man showing you. Yeah.
No, my hearing is still a great man showing. No.
Is there really, I mean, there's a far worse thing so you're good at that can be right.
Like old man losing bowel control.
Yeah.
And that would be far worse or everybody in the room and you.
It'll us it were on video. No.
Yeah, it's just a domino though.
It's on its own. It's nothing but like if it's the first
domino to fall is chewing and then that leads up in the last dominoes shit in your pants. Well,
here comes Walt. You're gonna get it on video. Hopefully we're done by the time that domino has
gone. If we're not that's money that definitely we call it a night and turn a light switch off.
Yeah, we quit. If we take a video it a night and turn a light switch off.
If we can't get through a video, making a video about him shitting his pants.
A nurse, I think Mr. Johnson put his pants on.
Again?
Do you think you'd do one more Christmas one before we wrap it up?
He's not eating it, he keeps chewing.
Can you put some extra powder down there please?
Little extra talc if you don't mind.
Did you go boom boom Mr. J?
I did.
You have Mr. J.
I'm still 56.
But I was like, I was at breakfast yesterday with Mary Beth
and I'm just looking at her
and I'm like, unless I do one of those age progression things, I'm like, I'll never
see what you look like when you're old.
Yeah, I could be a good thing.
Yeah, lots of filters, I could look and then be like, oh, you're gross, I want a divorce.
I'm gonna look nasty.
Maybe hire a makeup artist.
Like, they do on those star trick episodes.
And a makeup artist?
Yeah, like the age or like the prosthetics.
Yeah, probably the filter's cheaper.
I don't need to see it that bad either.
It's just in a chair for 13 hours.
Yeah, I mean, I've noticed changes in myself for sure.
Like just mentally, even physically, but I don't mind it.
I kind of like it.
I'm kind of into it.
Into what?
Into like,
seeing your body changed, like seeing hair come out of places
that you never saw a couple of times.
I like the slowing down.
Really?
Like the start of, I'm starting to see the start of it
and I'm kind of like,
see when you slow down in your 20s like I did
I disagree you seem to be more energetic now than fucking ever I agree with that
Well, you can't keep up with this guy. It's him and Jimmy the hair guy
Yeah, that's what happens when you hang out with Jimmy the hair guy. I'm gonna have to hang out with him
I need energy start to get in a whiff of that fucking useful energy man. It's better than coke
Wow
I'm sure Jimmy would disagree
I mean a line in Jimmy
I'll just pour some Jimmy off the Jimmy's cock
The Jimmy's like River the Twilight time
episode kicked the can wherever he's gotten younger. That's
Jimmy. I'll start hanging out with him. Well, I think
come on. Come on together. Isn't he only like how old is he?
I think he's in his 30s. Is he in his 30s? But I feel that
last year I was in such a bad mental place and physically at this time
that yeah now I'm just like not it I can feel good and I feel I feel really good
now that I'm like I can't fucking slow down man I I can only got so much time
left yeah you know you might as well pick it up now because who knows
Breaking up thinking about it But um who knows when it you can all turn around like that. So fucking Ralph Serella. Yeah, let's see. Let's kick it up a notch
Well, I want to kick it up a notch with you Walt
After I
Can't keep up with you. Walk it down to.
I thought you turned your back on him.
I thought you turned your back on him, dude.
You need to get the rent paid.
I can walk down there with you.
I can walk down there with you.
I might even be able to charm the land.
Okay.
What if we send both of us down?
Where are the other guys' representatives?
Yeah. It took us a half hour to get here.
Let me, let me, let me like, ZZ top and like, you know, sway her.
Can you point us in the direction back?
We kind of got to get back to our office.
It's just a straight line.
I know, but we don't know which door to go.
Do you know the number?
There's a right there.
You won't bump into the door.
We both have notes pinned on our jackets. Okay. Which door do you know the number? There's a picture of you about the door.
We both have notes pinned on our jackets.
Okay, I'll remember the first number. You remember the second number. There's a silver alert issued in the airport.
We've got two wanderers guys.
Seen done by Perkins.
Blessing chewing.
Yeah, chewing and hobbling.
Oh, my God, that's funny.
Yeah.
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what did you want to go to the last kiss show? I saw some people posting photos of themselves Mm hmm. Uh, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun and the knowledge of kiss? Yeah, the history of kiss and knowing that probably it wasn't going to be something that
would live up to my expectations of the last kiss show in terms of like
how I think you should go out, it looked like they were not going to even come near to the
extravagant, you know to the extravagant
that I think a lot of kids fans are hoping for.
I always see as people disappointed that show
didn't honor.
So it's often nonstop fire works.
It was just the run of the mill kiss show.
Right.
You know, Rob, Brian Rupert of licensed the pod,
he went to the next to last show and the last show two nights and he said they were identical shows is that a kiss fan oh he's huge.
Is he a fan of many is he like Jimmy almost we're like Jimmy's a fan of everything including the young lady.
He was not
Impressed or he felt like there should have been more like
Emotion and more something special unique should have happened at that last show rather than it just be
The same exact show that they've been putting on for the last 20 years You know and I
But to kiss his credit though
Well, they kept saying was like there are gonna be no special guests. Nobody is coming up on they kept telling everybody because it wasn't it wasn't a sure it's a it's a
curveball you know they're all gonna be up there the OG members are gonna come
back on stage to perform one last song yet they're just saying that
hmm
what stops them because it would be like imagine seeing a some Peter up
there like if you're a hardcore kiss fan, and this is like the last, as far
as you know, this is the last show you'll ever go to because they're not touring anymore.
What would be better for the fans? Like to see Peter and and he's up there with a first
like you said, for one song for the fans. It would be amazing. I guess for the guys in
the band though and the guys not in the band, I think it was to tall a mountain to climb to get to
come to an agreeable term or may
upride and ego and
hurt feelings and slinging mud
through, you know, for the last year of the video.
It's hard to overcome.
You know, and it's gotta be tough.
Like, like, it's fucking really tough
I think for Peter and Ace when you leave the band and you think it's not it's going to crash and burn and it doesn't
Yeah, but didn't
Sore either it just kept going at the same
It's not like it kiss like they left and they kiss became something that it wasn't when they were there
It's just like you said it's just they had a little dip, but then they rose to, you know,
the hair metal heights.
They were just, they could keep up with any hair metal band
in the mid 80s, and then they brought the makeup back on.
And they kind of like stopped making new music,
although they did, but nobody paid attention to it.
But it's still, it's like,
I can only imagine how bitter it is to see something thrive when you think, when you leave it may fall and fucking shatter and it doesn't.
Right. And, uh...
Well, that's on them, though, because like, they shouldn't be opening themselves. Like like why are you walking away from being like I hope it fails
Like you got kicked out or you left of your own accord or you just didn't get along
Maybe everybody everybody was being dickheads. Yeah, so it's like well, you can't do it without me
I will show you yeah, but I would argue the way to still do it is to just be like I'm
Walk away and just for your own men,
mental health, just be like, it's kind of not to do it me anymore.
I'm done.
But isn't it sweet though, if it fucking crashed?
Is it?
Yeah, for sure it'd be sweet.
Isn't it sweet when you walk away from,
if you walk away from something and it fucking fails miserably
and you then you have that satisfaction, what it was made?
I don't know, most things.
To get better when I walk away.
So. The German's called it Shouting Freight. What's that called? that satisfaction. Well, it was me. I don't know most things get better when I walk away. So
the German is called it Shouting Freud. What's that called? The Shouting Freud. The joy of suffering. Shameful joy. Yeah, shameful joy. This is why I love to have get them here, man.
I knew what it meant. Can I hang out too?
But you were you didn't spit it out. Cricket of dope. I didn't. You would spit it out,
but I'm not later like what's he talking about? Why don't you? I don't need to. I don't need to let everybody know.
It must be you meds. Yeah, that's not gonna blame everything on the meds.
Oh boy. You didn't have no interest? No, you know,
you don't want to go with us. I don't know, man. We haven't been as tight as we were.
Like ever since that height that we hit
well to recreate it
Yeah, but you weren't like you didn't buy into the hype last show last show. I'm sure you heard about it I thought the last time I went was supposed to be less
And then and then you guys said that they just I was like no, they sounded great
And you guys were like no that they just lip sync now that I'm saying so I was like, no, they sounded great. And you guys were like, no, they just lip sync now. They don't even sing.
So I was like, all right, well then, you know,
if I'm not going with something Jeff
and they're lip syncing anyway,
and I already thought I was at the last fucking show,
then fuck it.
No, there was nothing like,
you can't get caught up in the excitement of,
like this last show you gotta be there.
No, no, I don't care.
Not about kiss.
Especially the garden, I mean,
cause it's so close to you.
Yeah, I know, but not about kiss. Kiss wouldn't do it for me. Bill Joel, I'd be like, especially the garden. I mean, because it's so close to you. Yeah, I know, but not not about kiss.
Kiss wouldn't do it for me.
Bill Joel, I'd be like, if it fits his last show,
I wouldn't want to be at that one.
I'd like to go see Bill Joel.
Yeah.
If you ever get swing tickets for that, keep going.
I can't, but we can buy tickets and go if you want.
Okay.
Yeah, all right.
That I would do.
Now, I'm sure I could try it or any.
They don't give away any Bill Joel's, like,
doesn't need to give any money.
He's got some's out. And I guess because like, because cuz like cuz New York guys have noticed us a lot like New York guys who perform at the garden
As he often does we'll make it a rule that they're not giving away any tickets because a local show was like
Hundreds of people come out of the woodworks cuz you grew up your high school buddies everybody everybody so they just make a rule like no
No, no give away. I think I heard he reserves the front section.
And then he finds enthusiastic.
He hasn't go around and find enthusiastic fans to come down.
He had down to those seats that are really, really, really excited.
That's cool.
Do you remember we, we had occasion to be in Vegas a couple of years ago.
And we went to an Elton John show.
Yeah.
And do you remember that the first couple rose, I guess I think it's
reserved for a very little
Super fans because you gave me a 50 milligram
Edible when I thought it was a 10. Yeah, you got knocked out
A lot
50 then like Snoop Dogg
Yeah, 50 and being and be kind of like yeah, you know, okay, but it's also like your balance. It's a balancing act
And when you know, oh you must have been put I was all about
Drinking and everything I was drinking but I was drinking it at a 10 milligram
If you knew you had a 50 you would have you would have I would have style the back. Yeah, I just knew it. Yeah. The beakers. That's the figure.
Yeah, you're a beautiful mind.
It's like, everything.
But no, but I saw it.
I don't think double-faced.
Remember, no.
Very little of that concept.
But something I had a great time.
It seemed that the first two rows were reserved
for fan club people.
Like, you had to be hard, core, Elton John fan club people and at a certain point a fight broke out something I'd never thought I would see
Yeah, I never thought it didn't fucked up at a meltdown. Yeah, I would do it on a shot
We yeah, we were watching like what the fuck he was better. I was I was at our Don Rickles show in AC in a fight broke out
That's the craziest thing I saw
Unconnected to the
Unregard to the
No, yeah, just in the crowd.
Just in the crowd. Two people started swinging my chair.
Some of the
Don's on stage going.
All right, all right, everybody.
All right, all right. No, no, no, don't do that. Don't do that.
Like you're so worried that somebody was going to get hurt.
So Alton John, you know,
John, you don't recall that.
I don't know.
I don't remember shit. I don't remember shit.
So now did you hear about the big reveal at the end of the, the kiss show?
No.
Is it a spoiler alert?
Oh, you're gonna spoil it for everybody listening to.
Oh, no, no, I don't know.
I just want to say that there was spoilers ahead.
They get to now.
They teamed up with ILM and it's now digital avatars.
We'll be doing every concert.
Wait, like, what do you mean?
Like holograms?
Yes, holograms, such digital avatars.
Wait, so holograms are gonna be doing further kiss concerts?
Yes, Jean, to preserve them forever.
For the Kiss Army, they had themselves scanned
and now they can truly perform as kiss.
Jean can have wings of fire and breathe fire.
And this is what they did at the concert.
Yes, at the end of the concert, they played the they promised a special last song.
And that was the special last song.
And then they flashed up QR codes and it led you to a commercial for the new Kiss.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're the what's the technology behind that like how I am
What's I am?
Right, okay, but what's the technology that they're using?
From what I saw the face scanning so they scan their faces how are they displaying the avatars on stage?
I guess I'm sorry. I'm my questions not clear. I think it's like laser Zeppelin
I'm really is Zeppelin back in the day
You were like so you go like outlines of the match
The guy that I think it's like a hobbit hobbit in it last two years ago
It's like a holograms remember and right to me it looks like you're going to see a movie though
It looked like a video game. Yeah, it has behind the screen
That's the end of screen, but perhaps they give you like glasses so that it seems
Three days. Hey, they're taking a swing man. Like, you know, what do you know? I don't think the I don't think the technology is there yet for what they're trying to go for
I think it's still probably like 40 years out. Yeah in terms of like seeing something that'll blow your socks off
But because I was like tron legacy when they de-aged Flynn. I see it.
Oh, okay.
It, it, I'm candy valley.
Like it really kicked in and you're like, this just looks too unnatural.
But some rough was, what, what rough was livid when he had that was the big reveal.
Oh, really?
He texted me the night of the show.
He's gonna be a play by play.
He's like, and it was, we both were, I was in shop right.
A hundred eight, three hundred was, we both were, I was in shop right. A hundred eight degree, a 360 degree different experience
and he has, he's in the garden watching it and he's giving me a plabiplang.
He goes, I think that they're going to announce that the new version of
Kiss is going to be their sons. Paul has a son and Jean has a son
about the same age and they were in a band that opened for Kista at night.
So he thought they were going to pass on the baton
or the to the suns and they were going to just get
another space band, another cat man,
and the son of Jean would be the demon
and son of Paul would be the star god.
And that wasn't the case.
And I remember thinking, I was like,
you know, that's pretty fucking cool.
I go, that's like if they could sing,
if they could pull it off, I said, keep it in the case. And I remember thinking, I was like, you know, that's pretty fucking cool. I go, that's like, if they could sing, if they could pull it off, I said, keep it in the family.
I mean, that's at least...
It's a lot cooler than I could hand him a hammer
and be like, we're gonna have to swing it boy.
But, and then I said, I thought,
that was at least a decent idea.
And if they come out and they perform, you know,
with the sons and they're in makeup too, I go,
that's at least a different 100 degree opposite what I thought would happen at
the last show, but at least it's different.
Yeah.
It wasn't the case.
They tried it out this little video that look, they look like PlayStation game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
And people go crazy anyway.
Yeah.
The crowd said that the crowd was kind of just like the Wilder.
They didn't know what's in the wake of it.
They didn't know what was actually going on. And I jumped over onto the kiss subreddit
and they were just completely upset over there. Really?
We're being a little hard on kiss. Fuck kiss. Fuck them. I remember how they treated you.
I never forgiven for that. I appreciate that. I'm still a massive fan. I can't take away all the great memories
of growing up, but I feel like we're being a little hard on a kiss this episode. It's
Christmas. It was really fun. I'm dragging them. I mean, we're just analyzing the latest
move. I mean, I think that's fair play. As a fan, though, you're just like the second
I see a QR code go up. I'm like, Oh my God, like they'll never stop until they're in the grave and even beyond from beyond the grave,
I'm sure Gene's going to have a money making ideas. Sure. Yeah, they have the kiss coffins. Kiss
coffins. You could buy his ashes. I'm sure. Yeah. Special comic with other ashes in the ink.
Be out to admit, I mean the guys insanely successful at it. Yeah, he's a good
marketer. I've never been a good marketer man. I've never been a good self-promoter. I hate him,
but he loves it. Yeah. He's never met a piece of merchandise that he didn't like, and I feel that's
where the criticism can come in. It's like, if it's really, really cool, yeah, do it.
But if it's like super fringe,
and it's like gonna be like met with like snickers.
Yeah, like it's not worth it.
It's not worth it.
I'll tell you, that's why I always blocked
the impractical Jogas pop figures.
I never thought that.
All of them was gonna be up to what I wanted.
I didn't want to make like a money grab that made no sense. So I always blocked it. Fucking, I this not gonna be able to do that. I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm not gonna be able to do that. I'm like, I'll check these out. I'm like, again, must be working.
It has to be working, yeah.
God bless them.
It's speaking of concerts.
How?
Okay, well, Deb wants to go to a concert.
This is usually not the case, right?
I mean, yo, who she wants to go see again?
Who does she want to go see?
Rob Zombie.
Get out of here.
Yeah, so as he was so impressed with that Rob Zombie.
I remember, I remember, like she texted the girls,
like a picture, like where she's at at. You're like, where are you?
Rob Zombie concert and then I texted back. I go mom. Don't be alarmed by rope. But mom just turned into a Satanist
But she was like so impressive that so she was I would see that again
Like the costumes and lights she was I couldn't understand any of the songs or anything right right
She loved the showmanship, but go ahead.
Oh, well, so, say, Deb wants to go see Rob Zombie.
Again.
Again.
Or for the 15th time, I'm like, I don't know.
Well, no, you're right.
For the 15th talk.
I'm not talking about it over here.
Because now I'm going to another show that's not at the B.C.
Oh, you're traveling, huh?
Now I got to travel.
No, it's not overnight, but it is 90 minutes.
Oh, then yeah, then you. I got to do it. Where is it 90 minutes away in a place called
Englewood New Jersey? I wasn't familiar with Englewood's high end. Is it?
Yeah, I'm sure you're gonna have to pay a lot for your lattes at that show.
I said see lattes coming.
I just said see latte is coming. I don't know what you're gonna do.
You don't see that in the book.
I haven't seen it in there.
They're not fucking rocking like Rob's on me.
They're not rocking like Rob's on me,
but I didn't see many lattes as the concert.
There's a lot of women.
It almost seems like they're,
their main demographic is a lot of kind of sadder women.
You know, not sad, like, you know, you're sad, bitch. But like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,
you know, almost, you know, a little bit, yeah, like, age from like, say, 30 to 60, I
would say in that age range is a lot of women. And then they bring husbands. Yeah.
What average age do you transfer, do you transform from emo to melancholy?
I don't know. Well, I think it's a teen your emo right?
I think you have to stop because that far late 30s
Yeah, you're useful 30s something
I think you gotta go up 28 29 you gotta grow up really can extend it
I think when you get into the late 30s then you have to transition from emo to melancholy
Yeah, and then when you're in your 50s just say fucking I'm still being emo, but I think when you get into the late 30s, then you have to transition from emo to melancholy.
Yeah, and then when you're in your 50s,
just say, fuck it, I'm depressed.
I know, I know what to do.
I'm chewing like a madman.
I look like a Billy goat.
Do you not like going to the concert or there?
I don't enjoy it now, because I have to like be into the music.
I'm not one of these people that can just go see live music
and be totally into it.
Like I need to know the songs or...
But I mean, now I know.
Now I know.
Yeah.
And it's like, it's not bad music, but it's just like, I wasn't raised on it.
I'm not like crazy for like, you know, one or two shows are okay.
But like, now this is going to be I think my sixth show.
And she will be there every time.
She's even asked me anymore.
Now she's not like, hey, they're playing here.
She actually said, blue October is going to be an Inglewood
where a shining door was in Philadelphia, which one's closer.
I said, I have no idea.
That was the end of the conversation.
And then it turned into we're going Inglewood.
Now, do people wear things to show how many shows they've been to
or have any of the vineyards or anything?
I don't think so. Why is that what you do?
No, no, you're not just wondering if like,
like people like try to show up each other when like,
oh, I'm a 10-shower and I'm a six-shower.
I think that there are people who do believe
they're bigger fans than the rest.
Those are the people that are like down in the front row
that are like pressing up against the stage
and shit like those people.
But I don't know, they're, they're a very calm crowd.
Okay.
It's not like, it's not like Rob Zombie where he would see people like
Yellen and Hooton and Holler and having a great old time.
I candy float around like him.
Oh, I candy or is it not even like that?
Not counting Mary Beth.
Yeah.
I can't even.
I can't do it.
It's not I candy if it's yours.
What do you mean?
Uh, I'm not even just sometime in March. Yeah. It's not I can't even tears. What can you do? I'm not even just sometime in March.
Yeah.
It's a waste off.
At this point, does the band look out into the crowd
and see you and like, what's up?
He has every time except for once,
when we went to the art center
because we were too far back.
Okay.
But each time he's acknowledged me.
Well, that's not, could you get backstage?
Is it like, I would like to have them on the pot at least
so I can be like guys. Give us of that money back can you I mean really
at least I don't have to go to the meeting that's interesting. I want some of the money back
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I did also wonder what that,
because I was watching one of these,
one of these unsolved mystery type shows
and people are constantly dying and coming back.
Now, if I died, they're like, people are constantly dying and coming back. Now if I died, they're like,
people are constantly dying and coming back.
Yeah, you know how on Salt Mystery's,
people die and they're like, oh, and this is what I saw.
What I was like.
Oh, yeah, they pass over to the other side.
Right, yeah, I'm not talking about like three days later.
Yeah, sorry about that.
We watched out one of the guy flew 60 feet,
landed headfirst into the cement,
and then he was like, the doctor like he's dead,
and she prayed to Lazarus, he was spoke of the exact exact.
Crazy.
And they said this dude has no shot.
So I die.
They're like, he flatline.
He was dead for like, say three minutes.
Then I came back like these people do.
Lazarus effect.
And I'm like, this is what I saw.
Oh, fuck yeah.
You want to hear?
You got so much content for what?
Yeah.
Every time that something happens, you're like, come on, make something up something else
you saw.
Right.
So, as the people who's interested in that particular era of TSD, or post-price death,
at the end. era of TSD. Yeah. Or the whole strized death. 18.
Right, dies at the end.
Like you come up with, oh, and I have psychic powers.
But how?
Yeah. But how believable is it?
Like, because a lot of times, like, well, I saw the light at the end of the tunnel.
Well, it's because you're on an operating table and there's the light right above you.
That's what they say.
But like, let's say I'm on the side of the road or something, you know like how you you know when you were a fired fire
Fireman, you know, you would come upon these accidents and see people that were like, you know dead clinging to life or dead
You know if it's a situation like that where there is no light, but I'm like, hey, here's what happened
Well, they say you they see themselves from above. They see everything that's going on right? Yeah, they were watching hard
That's who yeah, yeah, so wait for watching. I heard that too, yeah.
So wait, you're saying you come back and you have,
but like, what are you saying?
Well, I'm saying I'm just like, look,
I don't wanna tell you where I went, but I will.
I wasn't heaven.
You weren't heaven.
Of course.
Yeah.
Why didn't you wanna tell us,
but then you did immediately,
well, I'm a professional,
I don't wanna tell you where I was.
I believe because I know you're going to be like,
you made it to heaven.
I don't want to brag.
What the fuck?
I like, you're not fuck with me.
Like, I'm like, on anything.
I'll swear on anything.
Okay.
I'm not fucking around.
This was my experience.
I died.
There was a black tunnel.
I got to the end of the black tunnel and then it was bright.
It was bright as hell.
I did see people, I saw Ralph Serella there.
You made it too, awesome.
I saw a couple people that I never thought I would see again.
And then I kind of got sucked back. I heard noises, I heard voices.
Then some fucking stupid firemen's kissing me.
You know, giving me the kiss. Well, I mean, I would believe you that you saw stuff.
I would wonder what really went on with your brain.
Was it misfiring?
Yeah, something.
Something, you know.
But if you came back and you were like,
are you walking the walk or are you like,
I now know there's a heaven.
Oh, I got to walk the walk.
So you have to walk the walk.
Cause I also saw from above, I saw the alternative.
Yeah, nobody wants that.
Like the clouds part in, you can see now.
Yeah, all right, you saw the circles of hell.
And you're like, I can't go there.
Yeah, so what's walking in the walk?
What do you start?
That's the first question I have to ask.
What's walking in the walk?
I don't know, I got to look to you.
You walked the walk?
So, I mean, you didn't get the information
before you left as you could.
It was half-assed and I was fucking,
I got, you didn't fucking stop this.
It's like, what do I gotta do when I go back?
I got distracted.
Well, you know,
I mean, they're already doing what he always does.
That's true.
Yeah, just keep doing what you're doing.
There's no out-of-all in heaven.
Yeah, if I made it, yeah, if I made it to heaven,
that's a good point. But like, are you, are you just like, you're doing. There's no out-of-all in heaven. Yeah, if I made it Yeah, if I made it to heaven, that's a good point
But like are you are you're just like you're going to church every week? Are you like what is the change in you?
Because if you don't change anything if I don't change
You know that haven't exists and you don't change anything that I'm like
His brain was misfiring
It's because there's no fucking way if you knew for a fact that there was a heaven and a hell to go to that
You want to do everything you could to get there.
Yeah, because what if the glimpse was showing you
what you need to do, you know, like, yeah.
There is something that you can strive for.
So then, I mean, he starts going to church every week.
He starts going every day.
Every day.
Every day, every morning you're on a church.
I'm like an old Italian woman going and praying,
it's just, it's party morning routine.
You've got a church, you like to candlely say some prayers.
And it was that much of a stark change in his behavior.
I would definitely lean towards, you know, he definitely saw something.
Yeah. You're that communication.
Oh, yeah.
That's always, that's always new medication. Definitely saw something. Yeah, you're that communication. Oh, yeah
It's always that's always new medication. He starts saying like have a blessed day when he you know when he leaves
He wants the pod to be totally like
Like now and now guys
His favorite Christmas his favorite Christmas was 2016 if he brings back people to apologize for all the all the
Oh, shit. I'm set about on jokes that you made throughout the years to certain people are you bring back and you repent and you you know you you legitimately cry in front of them for all the
right I'm like I need your forgiveness I need it I'm begging for it I'll wash
your hair with my wash your feet with my hair right you've just got a hair cut
with my beard you my feet with feed with my tears. Yeah.
Regret for how I slandered you and made fun of you
that you slept together.
Which is a slip of the tongue more specific.
You got to go right one.
I still want to know, I'm sorry.
Not for me to judge you, that's all.
Yeah, we had a discussion.
We're not gonna be seeing you guys.
You guys are policies against you.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I wonder what it would, I wonder now that you mentioned that,
what would it take?
Like what kind of experience, because I wouldn't do it.
Like what kind of experience would I have to have
to go back and be like, I'm gonna apologize to everybody.
I made fun of or jokes that I made.
Because that's all in good fun, right?
But if you, it's called good natured ribbing.
If you flatlined and you, and say Peter, you saw him
and it's like, look, we're sending you back
because you're not gonna make it.
And we're gonna show you a peak of hell
and they pull back and you see,
oh, you know, God's torched your chamber down there.
You're like, right.
And he's like, you have to change everything.
I got a apology tour.
Yeah.
You have to do it. Oh, no, tour. Yeah. You have to do it.
Oh, I got to do it.
Yeah.
You have the ability.
Yeah.
And he's like, all right, we're giving you one more shot at this, Brian.
It's literally like Ebenezer Scrooge.
Like you have to change.
Oh boy.
Everything without saying why.
But could you say who's the first person on that apology list?
First person on the apology.
The one that's the most egregious.
We not to say why or who, but like,
I mean, you can, your head.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm trying to think of who I've wrong so awfully.
Maybe like ex-girlfriends.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe like even though, I mean, even them though,
I wouldn't be like, oh, well, there's so important to me
that they gotta be first.
That's, yeah.
I think I might go to like, even unaware of things that I've done. Like, like, do, well, they're so important to me that they gotta be first. I think I might go to like, even unaware of things
that I've done, like, like, do they show me?
So it's so showy, they're not so important to me, to me.
Well, he's saying for the first thing.
Yeah, for the very first one.
He's saying for the very first one.
Well, it's not like it's a prize.
You know, you were my first apology.
But he's so serious, you're a random first.
He's got a lot of work to do. But look, he's still seeing it through a random fridge. He's got a lot of work to do.
But look, he's still trying, he's still working
out the apology door.
Yeah, that's a rough one because I can't point
to any one person that I've been so horrible
to this person that I feel like I should turn around
and apologize.
Maybe like Pam and Edgar for doing stuff
when I was younger.
But even that is like, that's just kidship, right?
Maybe.
Why aren't they telling me?
Why do I gotta figure it out?
They're like, you wrong.
This one is, is it might be angels?
Yeah, the angels and St. Peter.
They talk, they talk and they don't stop.
That's their job is to be vague.
So you figure it out.
Oh, really?
So they're like psychologists then.
Psychologists, you never went to psychologists, right?
Yeah.
Okay, so when you go to a psychologist, like they don't tell you shit. They sit there and listen to you and they're like psychologists and like psychologists, you never went to psychologists, right? Okay, so when you go to a psychologist,
like they don't tell you shit,
they sit there and listen to you and like,
well, did you think about this,
like the throwing like little things
that you have to do all the work?
Yeah, I would be a little annoyed
if I'm paying them this much money that they do.
$100 an hour to be like, you do it.
I would be like, you do it.
They would have a list of options like at least your D.
Mm-hmm, yeah, you know, that I have to come up with it.
It's self discovery, that's what makes it more.
Yeah, like even though they know,
even though they know the answer,
they're still gonna make you figure it out.
Well, there's something, right,
because being told something isn't the same
as coming to your own.
If you think it's your idea, yeah.
Yeah, you think it's your idea
than it's more like a trick.
They trick me into it.
Yes, they're a psychologist.
Are they doctors?
Oh yeah. Okay, so when you go to any other doctor,
literally spells out in black and white. This is what you got to do. This is what you got to avoid.
These motherfuckers are just like, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows? Yeah. What good was that
degree? Then or whatever? That doctorate, if you just can't tell me. I think the mind is more
complicated than the body is to fix.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Like, oh, my shoulder hurts.
I can give you an aspirator that I make your shoulder stop working. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sure it's all the same in the end,
but some people are small.
Like anybody's shoulders works the same way, right?
For the most part.
And if there's a problem with one shoulder,
you're gonna see that problem on your shoulders.
The brain is different.
Who fucking got this damage as a child who didn't,
who's, I think it's like, you need them to poke
and work around it.
Like I got a non-productive cough and a fever and a headache.
Okay, you probably got the cold.
What is a non-productive cough?
It's the dry cough where you feel like something's going to flow up.
Okay, but yet it doesn't come out.
I've never heard that before.
I thought it was just describing this current state.
Still teaching you.
Every fucking day.
So you're back on the get-a-wagon because last week
You were traded him in for Jimmy the hair guy. Yeah, you know what I figured it out. I talked to my wife about it
She was like you constantly talk about giving him tough love
But have you ever given him real love? Oh, wow and I was like no
And then I just figured it out and then I was like did she's like a psychologist
And then I was like, did she like a psychologist? Yeah.
You did Walter, you did.
So she's like, give him some real love.
And I was like, all right.
So that's what I little by little I've been doing it.
What was the week first thing?
It was last night.
I was kind of annoyed, but I held my tongue.
And I just wrote a very nice text being like,
next time we do something
We'll just or approach it in a different way and it'll be better. Well, that's pretty good
As opposed to me like you fucked it up the fuck
My phone will not write mother
We came up with an an amicable solution.
And you know, that should solve any further problems.
At the end of the day, you know, anytime I tell you, or when I say like you got to change
your ways, it comes from a place of I don't want to lose you or have you out of our
lives.
And my, or I shouldn't even speak for my life,
you know, I'm kind of like doing it right there
where I was like, our lives, no, my life.
You don't wanna see you.
I don't wanna see you go into an early grave
when you don't have to, when you're so smart
and you're so valuable, I kind of would be like,
it'd be a tragedy for you to not address and try to make some
to, and I know change is hard. I know it's so hard. It's hard for everybody. It's hard for me too.
And if you can just find that fucking inner intestinal fortitude, just to make a small change
here and there before you know it, the big ones will fucking happen, hopefully, right in front of
you, right? I mean, yeah, start with with little ones and sooner or later before you know it some of the big ones may not
feel so big anymore then baby steps. It's wise advice but don't you but don't
like minimize it and be like baby steps and then be like okay I got baby steps
in front of me I'm cool with baby steps and then you gotta do the baby steps
you gotta start doing them now, no. No more alcohol.
Every other day.
Every other day.
Okay, no alcohol for three weekends.
All right.
Okay, one day a month, no alcohol.
Well, I was going to do a dry January again.
Where are you?
Yeah.
All right.
Let's try it.
Yeah.
Who knows?
I might go into dry February.
Well, last said like five, six months last time.
Oh, yeah.
When you're not the hallucinations,
call me, I'll come down, I'll hold your hand.
I'll put a damp, dry wash cloth on your forehead.
They start skiing huddle over again.
You're seeing men come through the wall,
holding a gigantic barrel of beer.
See off, it's again, wall, to pick this time. Holding a gigantic barrel of beer
So that's it so that's love that's yeah, that's what she said She says don't give you always say you're gonna do tough love and go but tough love isn't working
So why do you keep doing tough? How many days is this man?
Two I got him have you is this the first I'm a yesterday all right
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I support the hood. He popped the hood. I was like, you good? All right, can I see you later?
I don't know. You get out. You chat a little bit. I've seen him for a couple hours before.
It was enough chat. Yeah. But that's what I think he maybe he needs. Yeah.
I love trying that. Real love as opposed to tough love because tough love don't work either.
Okay. So soft love for get him. Yeah.
Maybe he'll just hopefully he just won't like basket it.
Just suck it all up.
The basket it if that's what it takes basket it basket it a little.
Little bit.
Basketball.
So good.
They need to come on in the water's fine
spread it all over your face
this is what it actually feels like
clean it yourself with my love
feel my love all over you
warm
follow it
swallow it
swallow that love of mother fucker ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm on my... I'm faced my love. Oh, is it salty?
Or is it sweet?
You need it.
You want it so fucking bad.
I don't think this is what Deb said.
He did.
God.
Anything else?
I don't think he was got it.
Yeah, he was got it run.
Where are you going to go?
I got tonight.
I'm shooting some promo. I think I'm going to shoot some promo. I'm going to shoot some promo. I'm shooting some promo thing for some charity thing in Manhattan, but then jiggie is shooting a stand-up special tonight in Manhattan.
Oh, and Joe Gatto is directing it. So I'm going to go and check that out. I'm going to go support the boys in their endeavor and, you you know be home and time to watch AW around that.
I don't mind 30 or so.
I'm gonna go as changes I was talking about before.
Showing the real love.
Yeah, yeah.
I cannot show some face and whatnot.
But so unfortunately, yeah, I got to run today.
I'm sorry.
Any updates, Christmas, I think I think we're gonna probably release it maybe, maybe 23rd,
maybe 24th. Christmas Eve. That'd be nice
What a great gift everybody could sit around the fire and listen to it
Alright, so we're looking at December 24th. That's the present they can open up the night before
There you go nice get them. We love you get them. We love you get them. Love you too
Tom Steve
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Tom Steve Dave.