The Always Sunny Podcast - The Gang Gives Frank an Intervention
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You're really jet lagged, huh?
Jet lag?
When I go west, it fos me up.
Going east, I'm fine.
Even all the way to Europe?
Yeah.
I'm sorry, it's the other way around.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Going east fos me up.
Is that what it is?
Going east fos me up.
Oh, going east fos you up.
And going west is I'm fine.
It's fine.
Okay.
Yeah, because we go west.
So coming back from...
When you go west, you just go to sleep early.
And then you wake up early.
Oh, shit.
And now with traveling, because I'm going today, actually, to London, flying after this.
Oh, you are today?
Yeah, 5 p.m. today.
Woo!
And we'll be there till we see it?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Thank you.
You're gonna see the husband and all that.
It is 9 a.m., by the way, so he's just made it on time.
I wasn't worried about it.
Wait a minute.
I wasn't worried about it.
I wasn't worried about it.
Oh, shit.
Oh, this is a good look, man.
This is slick.
This is slick.
Connect close stuff.
Not that close, because what time is it, man?
What time is it?
It's 9 a.m.
It's 9 a.m., everybody.
9 a.m.
Man, I like the sweatshirt with the shades.
Thanks.
This came in from outside.
Sure.
Yeah, that's what happens.
That's what you're inside.
That's where you come from, usually.
On account of it being so bright out there.
You usually come from outside.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Guys, I made a minute.
We're back.
We're back.
We're back.
And we're back.
Should we do something to celebrate the fact that we're back?
Should we sing a song?
Should we just do the podcast?
Should we celebrate Megan?
Don't look at me.
Song or no song?
It's been a long time.
Song or no song?
Everybody looks a little bit different.
Just a little older.
A little older.
Just a little.
Yeah, Meg's hair looks cool.
Meg, did you curl your hair?
This is the way my hair is naturally, so I just didn't straighten it.
Really?
Yeah.
Straight up ringlets.
Yeah.
There's a ringlet in the front that's you're like Annie.
Yeah.
You're kidding.
So naturally, you straighten that shit out and you say, stop it with the curls and you
tell them to...
And then I re-curl it.
I straighten it and then I blow it dry and then I re-curl it.
Why?
Because they're not fancy when you don't do it right?
The short answer is because this is a little more unpredictable.
Yeah.
And the long answer is because wearing my hair naturally is me accepting that not being
perfect is okay.
So you talk to a therapist just before you came in to do this.
Yeah, she actually cuts my hair.
It's like it's...
She cuts your hair.
She's like, it's okay, Meg.
People who cut hair are kind of therapists, aren't they?
Yeah.
They get...
I think the people who've cut my hair know more about me than most of my friends.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Except for now we're doing a podcast so everybody knows everything.
Yeah.
Now everyone's off.
Well, Abby did this, the hairstyles, Abby Roll.
Oh, she did.
Yeah.
Abby Roll.
So, hair styles for Sonny for many years.
So, she said, hey.
Hey, Abby Roll.
Welcome back.
Okay.
You look...
Glenn looks tan.
Glenn's been in Hawaii for 10 days.
I've been Hawaii for 10 days.
But I've never known a person in my life that puts on sunblock the way that you put on
Sunday.
And have for 25 years, for as long as I've known you.
Wait, how do you know how he puts on sunblock?
Yeah.
I'm not confused by that too.
Well, we live in California.
Sorry.
Let me break it down for you.
We live in Southern California.
Right.
Right.
And we used to actually...
We used to share an apartment in Venice, California.
So, this is where you picked up on the sunblock.
Well, yeah.
But you guys also know all this information already.
I lived with Glenn in Venice, California, about a block from the beach and we would go
to the beach three times a week.
Yeah.
Well, where do you put on sunblock?
What do you mean?
Where do you put on sunblock?
On your face.
And your arms and your chest.
You put on sunblock on the beach.
And so, I would know about Glenn's sunblocking methods by spending so much time with him.
Sure.
I knew that you had observed my sunblocking methods.
He's filed them, remembered them for later use.
It's impossible.
It's diabolicals.
It's impossible not to because this would be circa 2005, 2004.
If I had the gas.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
It's a particular way of putting on sunblock, which is different.
It's like very specific and measured and maybe time consuming.
This is a guess.
Definitely.
Time consuming.
Definitely.
Time consuming.
It's the amount.
The amount.
First of all, the brand.
Let's start with the brand.
The brand.
Again, I don't know exactly what brand it was, but in 2005.
It's a high-end brand.
It's high-end.
It's 2005, I don't think.
Okay.
All right.
It is.
Is it that kind that doesn't rub in all the way?
Yes.
Well, that's just the unfortunate result of having a non-absorbent face.
Right?
I guess I was using the mineral sunscreen, like the white stuff that just turns your
face like straight white.
Well, whatever it was, we'd be in a sea of 20 people and I would be able to walk down
the beach and I would see, you know, in the distance, I could pick you out because I would
see 19 human beings and then one person who was purple.
I know.
A purple person.
Well, so how do you use sunscreen?
You turn a color that Meg's sweater is.
I don't know what the reaction is.
Okay.
So, he's a very high-end thing and he puts it on and doesn't absorb in and it turns
his skin purple?
I don't think he said that it was high-end.
He didn't say it was high-end.
No, I don't know that it's high-end.
He said it.
Oh, okay.
It was sunblock that nobody else was using at the time.
It was some kind of industrial-grade lather.
It's just paint.
It's just like caulk.
And yet, still, I've got sun damage all over my fucking face, but I do think it was from
...
And we've established that you're not as healthy as Charlie.
So.
Well, I stay out of the sun.
By different metric.
By different metric.
Yeah.
By other metrics, I was the healthiest.
I don't think you're healthy at all.
Yeah, I was the healthiest.
You're sick of the mind.
And the body.
Well, the mind, yes.
The body, possibly.
Definitely after these 10 days.
Okay, I don't think I'm healthy either.
I think it's...
I don't know.
I drank my face off for 10 days, guys.
Just drank the fucking face off.
Did you?
I drank on the plane.
On the plane.
On the ride home.
Good for you.
On the flight home.
Look at you.
Because they offer you that Mai Tai, and it's tough to resist.
You know?
You're on the Hawaiian Airlines.
It is, but man, I wish they'd made... No, no, well, it was the Mai Tai's at the resort
and at the beach.
Yeah.
When you're there, then they're just... They're coming around and...
Yeah.
What was the earliest you had to drink?
This is when I was on vacation, I'm always like, what's the earliest I'm going to start
it?
At noon.
Oh, okay.
I'd wait till noon usually.
Yeah.
I'm not a mimosa guy.
Okay.
That's not my jam.
Yeah.
But if you had to drink at noon, would you have... But you have the ability to just
have two or three and get... Have like a nice little bus and then just stop for five
hours.
Yeah.
If you start drinking at noon, you're not going to keep going until you fall asleep
at night.
Oh, no, no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Me personally, that's how I roll.
Yeah.
But I do like to get a buzz going on.
I'm not a big fan of having one drink.
I don't understand that.
I don't understand that either.
One drink.
One drink.
They're just like, what's the fucking point of that?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've only had four drinks in like two and a half months and they were all right in
a row.
Right.
Because I don't get the point... I had one night where I was like, I'm just going to
fucking drink tonight and so I did.
So why would you do one?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah.
You want to feel all the feelings.
I can do one.
I can do one, depending on what it is.
But I can be like, all right, end of the day, we'll have a single beer and that's that.
Get the calories in me, but not feel any better.
I never used to be able to do it.
Do you do a beer like Crab does in Manhattan where it's like a big golf club?
Yeah.
How big is the glass of beer?
Are you filling a glass of beer like this?
Are you drinking at 40 ounce?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's one beer.
Yeah.
And Guinness isn't even that high in alcohol.
How fucked up do you need to be?
Well, I'm not fucked up.
I don't want to be falling down.
I want to feel the effects of the alcohol, otherwise I'll just drink water.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I'm like, it's not worth the calories.
It's not worth the... juice isn't worth the squeeze.
It's just like having a thimble full of orange juice.
You're just like, what's the point of that?
I'm going to have a whole glass of it.
I don't count calories.
Well, I don't mean... I just mean, what's the point?
Unless you're enjoying the taste, which we're skipping right over.
Well, I do enjoy the taste and the experience, and then I'm enjoying the fact that I've only
had one, right?
So then I'm like, okay, that was nice.
I had a beer.
I guess.
Well, since we're talking about alcoholism, you're taking pleasure in the same thing
in the control of just having the one, as well, right?
I don't think that's what it... I don't think that's what it is.
He just said that.
He enjoys the fact that he's just having the one.
Yeah.
Like, I won't...
So there is it.
There's no other guilt along with it when I have one.
But if you guys are having too many, maybe you need a...
Intervention.
Intervention.
Intervention.
Intervention.
Intervention.
Yeah.
Today we're talking about my favorite episode.
I'm really excited about this, which is season five, episode four.
The Gang Gives Frank an Intervention at Aired On October 8th, 2009, and it was written by
Scott Marder and Rob Rozel and directed by Fred Savage, D. Dennis and Charlie attempt
to stage an intervention on Frank, who has gone off the deep end.
Meanwhile, Frank attempts to bang Aunt Donna, who Mack is also trying to bang.
Yeah.
I love this episode.
I enjoyed watching it for probably the 50th time.
Did you guys think about it?
Of all the episodes we've done so far in this podcast, I would encourage the creeps and
the listeners to go watch this episode.
Just go watch it.
It's a joy.
Yeah.
That's what I was thinking.
I was like, this is a good one if you had never seen the show to be like, what's this
one?
It'll give you a good sense of who the characters are and what the show can be and top to bottom
funny.
Left the entire time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Same.
Danny.
Amazing.
Peak.
Peak.
Frank Reynolds.
Yeah.
Right here.
Yeah.
Just the best.
The absolute absence of vanity from both Danny and Mary Lynn as Gaila Snail is unbelievably
hysterical and all you want to do is watch them, just like be filthy and gross and disgusting.
Very, very funny.
I also want to point out for the young folks out there, when you do something like this,
like a show like this, and the episode I think is widely considered to be, I think by a lot
of fans, a classic, like one of, that gets a lot of people's like, you know, in their
top 10 or whatever.
You know, and I remember after that episode, it was probably right around the time that
we were getting on Twitter, right?
And starting to be able to see comments after an episode would air.
Everybody was talking about wine in a can, wine in a can, wine in a can, that's so funny,
wine in a can.
The fact that we did not then take that idea and start making a wine in a can is just so
stupid.
It's so stupid that we didn't do that.
That's like a huge thing now, wine in a fucking can.
Yeah.
And not only is it conducive to violent hand gesturing.
I am loving this canned wine thing.
I think it's brilliant.
I mean, I'm active, I'm gesturing with my hands, and I don't feel restricted.
I mean, if I was holding a wine glass right now, I'd spill wine all over the goddamn place.
Yeah, we'll look.
We're not intervening on Frank for a lack of good idea.
Well, that's for sure.
As we've established in the episode.
But the most brilliant thing about it is like sometimes you only want one glass of wine.
You don't want to commit to a whole bottle and maybe, maybe you, you know, maybe you
only want to drink like, what if you want to open it?
This man just not say he doesn't want to drink just one.
This is actually to Charlie's point.
I'm not saying me.
I'm saying a person.
A person.
I said, you know, maybe somebody like, somebody like Charlie would just want one glass of
wine.
This is new for me, though, to be clear.
Years in the past, I couldn't just have one glass of wine.
That is true.
You should establish it.
This is new.
You wouldn't go crazy, but you'd have two or three.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is like me getting to the age of like, Hey, man.
One's okay.
One's good.
Yeah.
One's all right.
I used to drink Chame.
That will shut.
Put you on your butt.
If anybody knows what Chame is.
Is that super high on alcohol?
Yeah.
I went out with Charlie one night and we just had a couple of drinks at the bar and he's
like, let's get Chame.
I'm like, that sounds fancy.
Let's get that.
And it's a delicious beer.
And I was like, let's get a few more.
And we wound up having, I don't know, three or four Chame's and I was annihilated.
Sure.
What's the alcohol?
What's the alcohol content?
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
Made by monks, I think.
Isn't that one made by monks?
Probably not anymore.
Right?
Doesn't sound like something monks would make.
That's it.
Chame.
Buddy.
9% alcohol by volume.
Oh my God.
That's not a lot.
That'll sneak up on you.
That'll sneak up on you.
Yeah, that's fine.
I mean, wine's like, yeah, like 12%, 12, 13% to sneak it up there.
I think we had like, I think we drank like five, like maybe five, five or six of those
very quickly.
That's the equivalent of, yeah, drinking like almost a, almost a dozen.
Yeah.
Of regular.
Those are young men.
As well as the young men.
No kids, right?
Get up in the morning and take care of somebody so you can abuse yourself with sun damage
or.
Oh boy.
Now that you guys are getting older, you're not getting real weird with it.
I don't know how many years on this earth I got left.
I'm going to get real weird with it.
Cause that.
Oh yeah.
It'll hit a tipping point on the, on the backside of that.
Yeah.
I'll pick it back up again.
I'm getting more, uh, not weird with it, but more just sort of self accepting, you know,
to be like, yeah, just don't have to clean up the edges a little bit.
Just kind of.
Of life?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
Of me just trying to be like, yeah, just be, just, just be you and let the dad jokes fly
and.
Whatever comes out is, you know, don't, uh, don't try to filter it too much.
Letting go of that vanity.
Like you're talking about.
Letting go of that vanity.
Trying to.
One of the funniest scenes of the entirety of sunny, I think is Danny gargling all that
beer.
God, you were disgusting, a disgusting animal.
We're just talking about this.
So we were on location in Philly and we'd been out and about.
It was very early in the morning.
So we go down there at six in the morning.
I think we'd been up late enjoying Philly, enjoying, always making a show.
Fred Savage was a ton of fun to be with in town and Fred Savage was, was savage.
Savage.
When we would go out, he was having a good time climbing out of the top of limousines
or whatever he was doing.
Yeah.
What was that?
Why don't we have a limousine?
We would, we would never, never, ever travel in a limousine.
No, we weren't with him.
But a limousine was had maybe it was a prop car or something.
I can't remember.
Oh, but he got, he got pulled over by the police and he got a ticket because he climbed
up out of the car while I was in the living room and was like, yeah, like somebody screaming
out of the summer of a limousine.
Why did we have a limousine?
Like a high school prom kid.
Yeah.
Was there an episode you were shooting on Philly?
We wouldn't have taken one of the, no, listen, we did not have a limousine.
Fred Savage got a limousine.
Why?
And went around with probably LeFarro and some other, no, we were in that car.
I was not there.
I was in the car.
Yeah, I was in the car.
Oh, I wasn't there.
Where were you during this trip?
I think you were there.
When was absent for the whole trip?
I definitely was.
I was still putting on sunblock.
I was watching.
Still trying to get a sunblock on.
I was trying to get it just right.
8 p.m. at night.
I was not there.
That's 6 a.m. sun.
Okay.
Well, anyway, we were, it was a very early morning.
We were out all night and then turned right back around and went to set and, and Danny
was with us all night and, and then knew he had to play inebriated that morning.
So just kept it going.
He just kept it going.
I just kept it going.
He just kept it going.
But we had a reporter come down to set who was doing like a morning show talking about
Good day, Philadelphia.
Yeah.
Good day.
Like I guess someone from FX's, you know, press department had, had booked this interview
for us, which was rare.
Like this, maybe this is why we didn't continue to get a lot of interviews.
He was doing that gargling thing and, you know, beer all down the front of his shirt,
talking to the reporter.
And she started kind of giving him shit.
And so he was giving it back to her.
Now this is live on a morning show.
And you can see me and I can see Charlie in the camera, Charlie was like, what's happening?
And I'm standing next to Danny and I'm realizing, oh, I'm guilty by association.
So I start like inching away out of the frame because I don't want any part of these two.
Both of them.
God knows what he was saying.
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It's just a part in that scene where at the very end when he does the final gurgle, but
it's incredible because he takes a sip of beer and then he breathes like he opens his
mouth and breathes.
And then he does that thing, which doesn't make any sense, like where does he keep the
beer while he's like.
I'll tell you where he keeps it.
He's vomiting in that moment.
Really?
It's coming down.
He's taking it down and it's coming back up.
No, he's not.
Watch it again.
You are disgusting, a disgusting animal.
Maybe not all the way down to the stomach, but it's definitely down in his throat because
he takes a breath and then it comes back up and foams all over.
That's extraordinary.
Watch it again.
Wow.
Trying to figure out how you would do that.
Right.
I didn't notice the breath before, so I just thought he had it in his mouth.
It's such a funny scene.
And also Rob's whole waving away, just like burps laughing.
I mean, I'm sure there's bloopers where I'm laughing.
On the page, it's not really that funny.
The biggest joke on the page was that he doesn't realize Rob's walking behind him and
that they've been walking together, which is a funny idea, sort of like from an intellectual
standpoint.
But then when you get to a man just burping and barfing beer on himself and being so disgusting,
it's like Rob has to walk away.
It's so funny.
When you're shooting something, you have to worry about something called continuity.
I don't know if everybody knows what continuity is, but basically, like, you know, if you're
in a scene and let's just say you've got a thing where you have to, you know, something
spills out of your mouth and all over your shirt.
Why don't you continue this conversation, but halfway through, take your hat off, continue
it and then put your hat back on, then continue it and then just cut back and forth and then
we'll show up.
We'll come.
Yeah.
You know, if take one, you're wearing a hat, you know, and then suddenly you go to lunch,
you come back, you forget you were wearing a hat in the scene.
You go to lunch, you come back, you get, you're still shooting the same scene.
You come back, somebody, you know, somebody forgot to put the hat back on you.
All of a sudden, you know, some takes you got the hat on, some takes you got the hat off.
And sometimes you're talking to the person and then, and then you cut back to the other
person to see what their response is and the next thing you know.
They're wearing a hat again.
Yeah.
And then it's just super weird, you know, like it doesn't cut together.
Um, you know, so, so if you're doing a scene where you're spitting all over your shirt,
you got to reset that shirt every single time.
You know what I mean?
I guess unless in this scene, it, I guess it, it just, we just established that it just
started that way.
But like, I mean, still like the, the continuity of something like that is a nightmare and
you'd have to, you know, there's some fucking wardrobe guy.
Well, the poor wardrobe department on the first take sees that he's spilling it all
over his shirt.
And there's a little hairdryer on this shirt.
Yeah.
And their job is like.
They probably didn't have it on the shirt.
We don't have a double for that.
We don't have a double.
It wasn't in the script.
So they didn't have a double for the shirt.
Right.
They didn't have a dry shirt.
And even if they did, they would have to have 10 of them.
Yeah.
So you just got to commit to it being like that from the top.
In this scene, you're looking at Danny's shirt and not his face.
Well, there is a point in time where you can get away with a pretty bad lack of continuity.
And I think that's when the energy of the performance is so interesting and engaging.
You'll see that in like a Scorsese movie where you'd be like, Oh wow, that's just, there's
a lack of continuity and like good fellas or something.
And then.
Yeah.
Drives me crazy.
Not quite hats off, hats on.
There are some continuity things that are like too far.
But sometimes you just got to get the continuity today.
And like sometimes you just don't know like why or when something happened.
You're like, Hey, we'll have that.
So this is for.
And then it feels like it doesn't make sense because you're not, you're not sucked into
the reality of what's happened.
Yeah.
You're actually like pushed.
Yeah.
It kind of takes you out of it, right?
Yeah.
It takes you out of it.
Cause you're like, wait, you know, that's what you don't want, right?
You do it.
You're in, you're actually having a really good scene.
Like you said, and then the next thing you know, you're like, wait, was, did he have
that?
Didn't he have a hat on before?
Did he?
But it is amazing how you will not notice it if the scene is good enough and it's compelling
enough to Meg's point where you're looking at somebody's, you're looking at somebody's
face.
They're having fun with continuity today and not paying attention.
No, I know it's just, it's weird.
And that's what you don't want.
You know, cause it will take you out.
I think it's a jump and like look awkward.
Right.
You just don't want it to be strange.
The shoulders up.
The jacket.
For the listeners, we did a bit where we just kept changing.
Oh, that's right.
The listeners won't get it.
The listeners won't get it.
Fuck that.
Can I just, that reminded me of Fat Guy and a Little Coat for a second.
I've been going back with the kids and watching some 90s comedies.
Fat Guy and a Little Coat.
Fat Guy and a Little Coat.
Fat Guy and a Little Coat.
Fat Guy and a Little Coat.
Take it off, dickhead.
I'm serious.
Richard, what's happening?
Huh?
Fat Guy and a Little Coat.
Tommy boy.
I never saw that movie.
Oh my God.
Buddy, do yourself a favor.
It holds up.
It holds up.
There's a bunch of movies that do not.
And by the way, that one does.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
Super funny.
I know.
And it wasn't one of those things where I was like, I don't want to watch it.
I just never, I don't know.
It just never happened.
I missed it.
You always want to see it.
Yeah.
Oh, then you'll like Tommy boy.
No, I mean, I was obsessed with him and I don't know why I didn't see that.
He used to do that Fat Guy and a Little Coat bit to David Spade while they were together
at SNL.
Like it was like a bit he would do in the right, because they would write sketches together
and David Spade was like, basically I would write and he would be around doing bits like
Fat Guy and a Little Coat.
He just puts on David Spade's coat and then like it's just funny because he's like in
a little tiny coat.
Try to cheer him up.
So funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That movie is great.
I will.
I will watch as soon as I as soon as I watch Welcome to Wrexham, I will watch Welcome to
Wrexham and then transition into.
By the way, I did tell Rob that I did start watching Welcome to Wrexham and it's, it's
great.
Thanks.
It is a very, very enjoyable, enjoyable show.
We should watch Tommy Boy together, man.
Watch Tommy Boy together.
Well, we watched Anchorman last night and let me tell you something that also holds us.
That movie's funny.
And that's 20 years old.
Yeah.
A lot of good laughs.
20 years old.
It came out in 2004.
So 19 years old.
I don't like that.
I don't like that.
I know.
That's a great lesson in that you don't have to have any straight characters for a movie
to work.
Everybody can be completely insane.
Well, you see, you see Christina Applegate's character starts straight and then they were
like, same work.
And then she just goes berserk.
Goes off the rails.
Yeah.
Also like work is so relative, right?
There are tons of people who would watch both those movies and be like, these are awful.
They're wrong.
Right.
They're out there.
They're dead wrong.
They're dead wrong, but they're out there.
Well, there's a bunch of movies that we did watch that, I mean, I think objectively,
of course, it's not objective, but I think are just straight terrible.
But I'm not going to say which ones they are, but they were very popular.
I wish you would.
Yeah.
And I find that a lot of the 80s comedies do not hold up.
And I don't mean just in terms of like the blatant misogyny, racism and all that kind
of stuff, you know, that was for some reason acceptable back then.
It's just they're just not funny.
Why is comedy not age well?
It's so specific to the time you live in.
Yeah.
It's all about the time you're in it.
But it often does.
It often does.
So when it doesn't, it really stands out to me because like, there are comedies from
the 80s that totally hold up.
They're comedies from the 70s.
Did they make comedies in the 70s?
Sure.
There's a bleaker time.
Yeah, it was bleak.
Those movies were bleak, huh?
Sure.
Well, like mash was considered a comedy and it is funny, but it's also, you know, pretty
dark.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's always an exploration of the time you live in and the fact that it can, that it
sometimes can transcend it.
And also, if you, if you could, you have to put it in perspective of the time.
So half the time, like my kids will watch something even in Tommy boy and be like, oh,
that's not funny to them because they've seen it a thousand times because somebody ripped
it off.
It was new for us at the time.
It was new for us at the time.
I'm like, you have to understand that at the time nobody was doing.
So you're watching Groucho Marsh and you're like, nobody's doing the big glasses and the
mustache thing.
You're like, this is amazing.
Look at this.
But, but there's, I've noticed a lot of movies from the 80s that I thought were so funny
back in the day.
It's not even that, it's not even that the jokes aren't landing.
It's that there aren't any.
Yeah.
It's like, it's like, there's, there's like a killer, there's one movie in particular
that I'm thinking of that has so many, it has like a lot of really, really funny moments
in it, and then large stretches where I'm like, is there a joke in here?
Should I just say what it is?
Yeah.
Three Amigos.
It's like, there's whole chunks of that movie where it's like, there's no, either there's
no jokes or there's jokes and I'm not getting them or whatever.
And then there's moments where it's like so funny.
Well, okay.
I'll go, I'll go you a step further.
We watched a Tommy boy and it was a grand slam.
So the next night we were like, let's watch Black Sheep because it's kind of like the
spiritual sequel.
Yeah.
And I remember as soon as we started watching it, I was like, oh right, I have the same
experience when I watched this 20 years ago.
It fucking sucks.
It sucks.
And it's the same two guys.
And the reason is because it's just a series of sketches.
There is no period of time like Tommy boy is actually a pretty compelling emotional story
with a bunch of really funny bits because the actors are incredible.
Whereas Black Sheep was just bit after bit after bit after bit.
And my kids got bored.
They wanted to turn it off.
Yeah, but anchorman is bit after bit after bit after bit and you're not bored, right?
You're not really tied into anything like emotionally in that.
So like, why does it work sometimes?
No, but there is a story.
There is a legitimate story, yeah, that is a sign of the times.
I mean, it's about, it's got to be a story in Black Sheep.
It can't literally just be a bunch of sketches.
It's not a sketch.
Yeah, but honestly.
It's like an election story.
I don't even know that I could tell you what it is.
So maybe that's right there in lives of problem, right?
If there's not enough of something for people to just sort of attach to with an emotional
through line, then you just don't care about it.
Yeah, like Tommy Boy is like, they're actually, when, when, when, uh, spoiler alert, when
Brian Dennehy dies, who's Tommy's dad, is actually like pretty emotional.
And then the story is very clearly about Tommy, about David Spade's character never having
a brother and Tommy needing a brother and they, and you like watch them fall in love.
Yeah, Disney model, right, like, it's like the parents die and then the child has to
go on a voyage.
Yes, yes.
Right.
And, and in Anchorman, it's about, it's about trying to break the glass ceiling and having
the times change and women come and be a part of what the boys are trying to, trying to
do.
And, you know, and like how we have to accept that.
Well, Sonny's a good example of why, you know, one particular story resonates and maybe another
one doesn't and, uh, intervention is all about, uh, trying to help Frank and him, like, uh,
emotionally.
Like, why?
Yeah, what is, what is it about this episode?
Why does this one work?
Oh, I can tell you exactly.
Well, for me, it's that this episode has a number of like really funny runners, small
things that like dot through the whole episode, like your lips all turning red, which is really
funny and is just such a funny progression as the story goes on that you're also then
last scene, everybody's lips are totally dyed red when you're having that conversation
with the intervention specialist.
Um, there's that, there's the use of the word intervention that like changes over the
course of the episode, leading to the funniest thing where, where then Mack is talking about
how he wants to bang, uh, Donna, because Barbara was the best sex he's ever had.
And then Frank goes intervention, intervention, like time out, like he's using it in place
of like time out.
Yes.
And just the evolution of that word and how everybody uses it is really funny to me.
It becomes abused.
Yeah.
And I think the other thing is that the, there's a guest character played by Susie Nakamura,
who does such a great job of being the straight character that you guys are all revolving around
and being so crazy.
And there's so many funny scenes, like when you go to hire her in the first place and
you're telling her that she needs to bring a gun to the intervention because Frank's
going to have one.
And then you're talking about catching him in a net.
And then she points out that D is drinking wine during them trying to, there's just
so many things.
Her performance is great, like watching it again and being like, wow, it's so grounded
and real.
Yeah.
And also funny.
And funny.
She found a way to be the straight person and still find her ways to be funny in a real
way.
Yeah.
Love that.
She's doing the like care.
She has like a lot of compassion, which is just a funny thing to bring around the energy
that you guys have.
Like, I think maybe my favorite- She's really trying to do her job.
Yes.
I think that's why it works, right?
Yeah.
She's really, really trying to like...
She has so much compassion for these people that she shouldn't.
But I think my favorite moment is when Frank thinks he's getting roasted.
What the hell's going on?
Can't you, man?
Yeah, you sit on so we can tell you what an asshole you've been.
We're going to get all on your face and point out your faults.
I'm roast?
I've always wanted to be roasted.
Oh, wait.
Let me just switch gears here.
I wrote this spliff.
No, no, no, no, no.
Wait, wait, wait.
Frank, hold on.
Everyone's here today because they care about you and they want you to get well.
She, funny.
Next.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's fine.
That's fine.
That's the line of the episode.
Yeah.
We quote that line all the time.
All the time.
Was this the first episode?
I know we've dealt with guns in the past, but was this the first time we established
that Frank carried a gun with him at all times when you say, you know, he's got this
little pistol with him that he carries with him?
He doesn't really hesitate to use it.
I feel like that's the first time we said it's always on.
That Frank has a gun.
That's what was on him.
I mean, we've used the gun.
We had had arguments about the gun, but was it Frank's guns or was it our gun that we
kept in the bar?
No, Frank.
We established it in, well, I know we used it in the in season two when Dennis and D have
a new dad, right?
Because he's on Facebook and he's fucking firing the gun.
We've had multiple arguments about it.
Yeah.
But did we establish that?
You're saying, did we establish that it is always on him?
That I'm not sure that that yeah, I think that's the first time we use that joke.
And that, by the way, it being always on him is something that we've probably picked up
and dropped.
Well, it's so funny when you lure him down to the bar for a grease fire and he comes
in wielding the gun.
Yeah.
For the fire.
For the fire.
Yeah.
It's a way to solve all problems.
Oh, I just love it.
I think it's so funny.
Oh, the one thing that did start in this episode is nightcrawlers.
First mention of nightcrawlers in this episode.
Do you guys remember who came up with it?
Yeah, it's Martin Romero.
Yeah, that feels like a...
That's Martin Romero.
This episode feels like so much of the amazing sort of idiosyncratic sense of humor that
they brought to the show, like really specific weird things like nightcrawlers and...
Frank says they did monster energy drink and drive home.
And I think she gave me poison ivy.
I think the snail is too depraved even for me.
This broad is berserk.
Wake and bake.
You guys bang?
No.
No.
We did a bunch of those monster energy drinks and drive home.
It was awful.
I think she gave me poison ivy.
That is exactly those guys.
Yeah, that's those guys who see it.
Actually, that might be the best line of the episode.
I even remember these lines of we're not intervened.
She's berserk.
Yeah, she's berserk.
And mashing it.
And mashing it.
I'm sure that was scripted.
You know?
You're just mashing it.
Yeah, he's mashing it.
I also love that she's like, I'm giving him a handy end of the table.
And Antonia says something like, you're supposed to be sexually active.
You're not supposed to be fondling your uncle on the table.
You're a 35-year-old movie.
She's like, I'm sexually active no more.
She's amazing in this episode, too.
Yeah, Northern.
Completely straight.
Both of them.
Her and Mary Lynn.
She played it so straight that I wasn't even sure that she wanted to be there at all.
You know what I mean?
Like she played it so real that I was like, does she?
I thought she hated it.
You got the sense early on.
I got the sense that she did not like it.
Even around this season where you were most likely we'd make an offer to somebody of some
stature and obviously Northern had been on Saturday Night Live forever.
And the offer would come in and they would have never heard of the television show, but
they saw that Danny was on it.
And they thought, oh, okay, well, this'll be safe because Danny DeVito's on it.
And he's in the scene, so I think that'll be good.
And then they show up to set and be like, what have I signed up for?
I've made a terrible mistake.
That's the impression that I got from Nora Dunn.
I love Nora Dunn and for our younger audience, they may not even know her from Saturday Night
Live because it was like maybe pre they're watching SNL days, but she was so awesome
on SNL.
I've always loved her, but yeah, I definitely got the impression that she was like, what
the fuck is this?
Yeah.
What is this show?
You mean when we were working?
But I mean, she was with the script.
She was lovely, but yeah.
No, she was fine.
She wasn't like, you know, overtly mean or whatever, but I don't know, there's like
maybe a little bit of a standoffishness or like a...
It works for the character though.
It works so great for them.
And maybe that's what she was doing.
Maybe she's just a phenomenal actor.
Yeah.
I think it might have been she was just playing, like, playing the character.
Yeah, because her character is exactly it.
I don't know how am I supposed to deal with these lunatics.
Yeah, that's entirely possible.
But I don't really remember what she was like on set, so I can't speak to it.
But there's probably a thing, right, where you're used to doing like big shows and you
come down and we have these little cheap looking cameras, right?
Charlie and I were just at post last week because we're cutting season 16, right?
And we were doing this wonderful episode that Meg directed where we're bowling.
And we're watching some of the footage and it's sunny and it looks like shit and we
recognize that.
But then we shot a couple of the sequences in super slow mo.
There's a flashback moment.
On these incredible cameras and it looks like film and it looks so great and we're watching
it and almost like our hearts are breaking because we're like, oh, that's what it could
look like.
Yeah.
And it would be a different show.
And we're going to have to degrade it to make it match on some level, right?
We'll probably have to degrade it.
I mean, I haven't seen it yet.
Or it'll feel stylistic and cool.
Yeah, we do that a lot where we use a nicer camera for some sort of stylistic flashback
thing.
And either way, like any actor that's caught on, like looks cool, looks better, looks more
attractive, more cinematic, and we've just like destroyed our careers.
I'm presenting ourselves as clowns on video tape.
Clowns on videotape.
Clowns on videotape.
Clowns on videotape.
Clowns on videotape.
Clowns on videotape.
Go with the videotape to the clouds.
But, you know, the way we're able to shoot the show with the tiny little handheld cameras
keeps us nimble and communically is great.
It also allowed us to shoot, say that very, very, very intricate bowling episode with
multiple so many characters, so many side characters.
It's so tricky.
And we were able to do that.
How many days did you shoot that in?
Three days plus one scene.
That's insane.
Yeah.
That's insane.
I like that, oh, at least, at least two.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I wasn't stressed at all.
No.
No, that's fine.
But, you know, it is what it is.
You didn't seem stressed?
That was acting.
Yeah.
I know.
Was acting.
You were holding it all together.
I was holding it all in.
Yeah, you seemed like you had it.
Yeah.
I mean, it was, I knew it was going to be funny because it was all, you know, I knew it was
going, I was just like, this is going to be a great episode from the beginning.
No, it was hard to shoot.
Yeah.
I mean, I can't.
Speaking of continuity, that's really tricky where, you know, you have bowling pins, like
balls that are returning down lanes that might be returning down in one shot and not in take
two.
And if you want to cut between take one and take two, but.
I made a serious error during that, that I would, if I got the whole thing to shoot
over again, I would have given you guys all assigned seats that you stay in every time
you're not bowling because I thought it would be, I was like, well, when you bowl, you don't
sit in the same seat the whole time, you like kind of mix it up as you.
So I was like, I'll be like, Verité, you know, but then we block shot, but that makes
that absolute fucking nightmare because the continuity is just a mess.
It's a mess.
One, one moment, somebody's sitting there next minute, they've got a hat on, they don't
have a hat on the hat's backwards.
It's nuts.
But there's a thing that happens, right?
Where you get, you get to all these like great performance moments and then you find the
right music and then you massage the sound and, and in a finer film, you do some beautiful
color work on our show, not so much, but and it all kind of comes together.
We're actually going to have to do some color work.
I gave them one color note.
We never give any color notes, but I was watching a lot of the raw footage and these cameras
and the lighting and the way we shoot it.
For whatever reason, it's, it's picking and the definition.
It's picking up so much of the weirdness of the redness of our skin.
And so in certain scenes, some of us are just like bright red, bright red.
Yeah.
You can fix that.
Oh yeah.
You can absolutely fix it.
But we have that.
That's the kind of coloring.
I feel like we should add a level of grain to it, which just dirties it up, which is
just like you can sort of do a blanket grain over the thing and which because it's gotten
so with the TVs now and cameras and by the way, everyone's probably watching at home with
their auto motion correct on, they're like, why does this look like a fucking BBC teleplay?
Well, that's cause you don't know how to use your damn TV or, or the TV company has ruined
entertainment for you.
Yeah.
But I have, it's the default setting.
It's the default setting.
It's the default setting.
You turn the TV on for the first time and the default setting is to ruin every single
movie you watch.
To ruin everything you watch.
Unless you're watching.
What's what?
What?
What?
What are you gonna promise?
You got a problem?
You got a fucking problem?
You like how it looks?
I'll cover this.
Okay.
A couple of times.
Okay.
Well, it's an issue.
Community-wise, if you could go back in time and just splice in the moments where we talked
about this.
It's an issue.
It's a major issue.
It is a major issue.
No, I'm very aware that we've spoken about it multiple times and I'm very, very deliberately
speaking about it again because it is a problem it needs to be fixed.
It needs to fix it.
These people must be stopped.
One thing, can I say really quickly from that scene with Donna where you're, where Gail's
mashing it and everything, I for whatever reason really love the line that Mac delivers
where he goes, I hope you like crispy because it is burnt.
His breakfast and I swear every time I make breakfast, that like goes through my head
at some point.
Like I hope you like it crispy because it is burnt.
I love that.
So that whole scene top to bottom is great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The smashing of the windows.
Yeah.
Did you kick in my door?
That's definitely my result.
Did you kick in my door?
I kick yes and no.
I did come in through the window.
That's gonna be a security concern, but you're always safe with Mac.
I went in and out of people's places, which is funny.
Which is funny for now, you know, breaking in 30 years from now, I'm like, well, that's
not funny.
You can't break into a place.
Just break into somebody's house.
The robots blast you to death.
Right.
Oh, the house robot.
Yeah.
The house robot.
The house robot again.
Will incinerate you.
Yes.
Yeah.
So some classic sunny lines came from this episode.
There's a few actually.
Well, I don't know how many years on this earth I got left.
I'm going to get real weird with it, but I like the second part of this line actually,
which is, meanwhile, block the wind, I'm going to roast this bone.
Yeah, I'm going to roast this bone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Meanwhile.
Meanwhile.
I said he gives himself a meanwhile.
Meanwhile.
Yeah.
My God, there's not enough salt in the world for her, which is a great lie.
I love getting angry at her for making you feel bad about yourself.
Yes.
Yeah, that was an interesting little spin on it, which is like.
I was coming up with that and thinking that that was really, really funny.
It's like, yeah, getting mad at somebody.
Yeah.
To force you to have to salt them.
To tell them it's so horrible.
Nobody wins.
Why did you make me beat you?
Why did you make me strike you?
Right, why did you make me strike you?
Why do you do this to me?
Yeah, why do you make me?
Why do you do?
Why do you make me like this?
We all lose.
We all, nobody wins.
Nobody wins.
Nobody wins.
Well, Charlie actually got to salt this nail.
So how did it feel when you were actually?
You know, really satisfying.
And the way salt moves when you throw it, it has a nice arc to it.
But to close that loop in the episode, you say that you did not enjoy.
You did not enjoy.
Yeah, you did not enjoy.
No, you feel horrible.
You feel terrible.
You feel terrible.
I was like, hated I have to do it.
When she's irritating us and we don't have salt on us, we inadvertently start like...
Oh, you do a great bit in the first scene where you're talking to her and you do a sort
of salt-flicking gesture with her.
Oh, and then Charlie's clearly laughing at the end of the scene because he turns like
this.
I'm sure I'm laughing.
Yeah, so I started going like that.
And then Caitlyn started doing it.
Yeah.
She caught me doing it to start doing that.
Yeah.
And then you start laughing and to cover up the laugh, you start doing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A very funny cold open too.
I personally love any cold open that ends with you guys just looking at each other for
a silent beat and then the titles hit, like, you know, he says, yeah, and this one, it
ends with Frank saying, flush that turd down the train and then he walks away from you
guys and you just sort of look at each other and then it goes, gang gives Frank an intervention
which I think is funny.
Was this the first time I noticed this because we just put it in another episode this year
and we certainly had it in an episode last year, but the bagpipes of playing Amazing
Grace.
Was that the first time we've used that?
Because we used that.
Yeah.
Probably.
Oh, yeah.
Because then we used it again.
We used it.
When we pretend in the baby, the baby death scene.
Did we use it for Mac and Charlie Die?
No.
Excuse the speech.
I don't think so.
I don't think we hit, I think we would have had we found it.
Yeah.
There's a few things like that that we have used multiple, multiple times.
Definitely dance at the Sugar Plum fairies.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
We're using it again this year.
We're using it again this year.
Any time something diabolical.
Potentially.
Potentially.
Let's go find something back.
Anything something sneaky happens, right?
Sneakiness.
Sneakiness and diabolicality.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So what we're going to do right now is we're going to have Meg just go ahead and tackle
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Yeah.
And by the way, I get that.
Like, who wouldn't want something for free?
Yeah.
Stop damning me.
I'm not giving out free Athletic Greens.
Oh, you're not.
Oh, sorry.
Okay.
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Yeah.
That's not a question, but it does have less sugar.
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So how did Rocket Money help you in this?
Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps you, first of all, identify what subscriptions
you have because it turns out I had like, I mean, 40 subscriptions that I didn't even
know I signed up for or automatically signed up for.
They help you identify them and then lower your bills all in one place.
Well, that sounds very useful.
Do you have any idea how much the average American spends on subscriptions a month?
I would say at least $200 a month.
That's exactly right.
Okay.
That's a lot of money.
But basically, it's going to help you stop throwing away money.
Yeah.
Nobody likes to throw away money.
Okay.
So Glenn, it's going to maybe help you cancel your own wanted subscriptions.
It's going to help you manage expenses, is that what that's what it's going to do?
Yeah.
I think that's a service that we should be providing.
Rocket Money.com slash Sunny.
The slash Sunny part's important.
Rocket Money.com slash Sunny.
Rocket Money.com slash Sunny.
Well, have you guys ever been to an intervention, either your own or someone else's?
Oh, boy.
I've wanted to.
I've wanted to intervene on some people.
But no.
No.
Never.
I've had conversations with people, but it hasn't been like an official interview.
There were no professionals to solve it.
No, it was more like, hey, man, I just want to bring this to your attention.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Imagine if it was you, right?
Walking into a room and a bunch of people you know are there and like, oh, shit, here
we go.
Here we go.
Yeah.
But I think, so at the time that we were making that episode, Jill and I, we used, did you
guys watch the show intervention?
I used to watch it.
Yeah.
Because we watched it religiously.
Oh, yeah.
So, I mean, I wonder if that's, I must have come in and been like, I saw this episode
of intervention.
Maybe we were just talking about that.
Yeah.
It was the beginning of the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what it was based on.
I mean, that's what the idea was based on because you guys never watched that show.
No.
I remember, if that was the beginnings of the conversation, that we didn't know it was an
episode until, I believe it was Rob Ruzel, was like, what's the difference between an
intervention and a roast?
And then we were like, okay, now we just have to break that episode.
Yeah.
Now that's the thing.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
My favorite moment in the whole episode is that when you want to list the things
of how Frank's has affected you and it's because you are annoying.
You are annoying.
Yeah.
That's another one we thought a lot.
It has affected me in the following ways.
You are annoying.
Yeah.
Also, when you go to help Charlie write his letter to Frank, you're like, I'm assuming
I'll write yours down and you're like, yes, that'll be fine.
And then there's another line there, illiteracy.
What does that word even mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, right, I was still like denying it in this phase of the show, right, which
is funny.
We should maybe look up some, there's a lot of bloopers from that scene.
Oh.
From the two of you guys.
Oh, yeah.
Probably.
But what is it?
But what is it?
But what is it?
But what is it?
Is that in the bloopers though?
Is it actually?
I've never seen that.
I don't remember.
But I remember us laughing, like having a really hard time getting through that scene.
A lot of these scenes were tough to get through.
I want to know.
I want to know.
Tell me what it is.
I want to know.
Yeah.
What is it?
You've said you mentioned Nightcrawlers and now I can't move fast because I don't know
what it is.
Oh, the Nightcrawlers phase.
Yeah.
And I love that Frank, when you talk about what it is in front of Frank, and you're
like, intervention.
We didn't know.
And he's like, well, that's what it is.
Yeah.
Because you were.
There's no point in hiding it.
Yeah.
Because you were trying to.
I was trying.
Crawl around like worms in the night.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Oh.
Such a good one.
Well, what is happening?
What is happening?
Nor does it.
Yeah.
The classic, what is happening line?
Where did the sucking thing come from?
Was that scripted?
The sucking and the spit?
I think the idea is that like a snail is just very moist, very moist creature until you
salt it.
Just so funny.
You know?
And so I think it was just a byproduct of that.
It's just such a funny weird.
No.
And her, talking about how her mouth tastes bad, that was not in the script, but she
was sucking.
Wait a minute.
There was a scene, the very first scene we ever, this doesn't make sense.
I thought the very first scene we ever shot with Mary Linn playing Gail was a scene where
she was sitting across from somebody at a restaurant.
Oh, wait, was there, did we cut the scene?
Yes.
Because there was a scene with where Frank, well, no, so the, okay.
Oh, after he says.
So there's a scene where he takes her to Guajino's and talks her into this, into this proposition.
And you say, you should bang Snail.
Yeah.
You should bang Snail.
Holy shit, man.
I forgot.
Yeah.
And I remember because, because.
We must have shot that first and then we shot the funeral scene.
Second.
Yes.
Because she hadn't found the character.
She was like, literally, we were, we hired her, I mean, it's not, she, she was a friend
of ours.
So she didn't audition or anything.
We were like, she'd be great.
And she wanted to do it.
She's so super funny.
And then she showed up and we realized that none of us really knew what the character
was.
I mean, we knew what the dialogue was.
We didn't know how it was going to fully manifest itself.
And so I remember throughout the course of shooting that scene, she was finding it.
We were finding it.
We were giving her a lot of feedback, a lot of notes for like, try this, try that.
You know, it was a lot of trial and error throughout the course of that scene.
But I don't think that, I don't know that that's why we cut it.
We probably cut it just because it was one of those scenes where you realize like, you
just don't fucking need it.
You don't need a scene where you set up that they're going to go do it.
You just go do it.
And based on like what her character was, it was like, this character doesn't seem like
she needs any talking into doing this.
Yeah, right.
Right.
She's grown into her body.
She's not a virgin anymore.
Yeah.
I love that.
And the original conception was that there was two garbage pills.
That is correct.
And I don't.
Do you remember the name of the second one?
Wait, there was a name.
There was a name.
It was a boy and a girl.
It was a boy and a girl because they were supposed to be mirror.
Like if Dennis and Dee were cabbage patch kids, these were the garbage, the garbage
patch kids.
Yeah.
We named who the other one was.
Yeah, we did.
We came up with the name.
Yeah.
But it never made it through the script phase, right?
No.
Well, we wrote it into the script and then the script was too long and then we just
cut it.
It was getting too fat.
Yeah.
And it was too.
It was too many people to try and serve us.
But yeah, that was the idea.
It was.
But right.
We were supposed to.
It was like we were the cabbage patch kids.
But we remember it this year and the writers.
Yeah.
We remembered it this year.
Wow.
And I barely remember that scene, but.
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Providence. Oh shit. I might have told the story and
It's a we're always afraid we're gonna get yelled at. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I I won't name names
but one of my Rhode Island buddies brought this bar in Providence, Rhode Island and
There's a girl at the bar who is only wearing a cat in the hat shirt and
Flip-flops right like yeah, like she's got no
You're like does she have pants on and her hair is greasy and the cat in the hat shirt looks kind of dirty
and she looks like borderline homeless and
She's like trying to talk to us, but but she's got like a gala snail vibe and we're like, yeah, okay
How are you? Good to see you and
And then we're we're seeing whatever band we're seeing this the bar was called the living room in Providence
And you could like you could get in like 18 and up, you know, but then you could like get beer
And we're going through the night we're having a good time and we look over and my buddy who I won't name is
Is on the pool table making out with the cat in the hat girl as hard as you can
They're on the pool table going full-length
And I remember he was hammered I remember the whole ride home all he could say was don't know don't care man
Don't know
But and I remember that being the well both Margaret McPoyle
And yeah, I was gonna send the gale look just sort of talking wardrobe and like can you give me some kind of cartoon character?
Yeah, long potentially pantless. We can't tell sure
That's totally Margaret. Yeah, Margaret was always wearing like the long yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I got an answer back
What not quite right Robin?
Not quite right Robin, you know, and that would have been really funny, but you're right
It would have been like not a lot of room for it in the episode. Yeah
Not quite right Robin could just be like someone we knew in high school, too
I mean that a character name not quite right. Yeah, not quite right. Robin's pretty great. Yeah
That might have to make its way into season 17. Yeah, there be one
We're gonna have the dentist system this season and martyr and Roselle have asked to come in for that episode
So I think we're going to talk about a favorite of there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, great. Yeah, okay
I'm gonna get them in on. Yeah, we need to get them in here. Yeah, people need to meet the infamous Rob Roselle
I know they were too busy writing your show to they were too busy writing the show
To be in on the podcast somehow I found the time, but they couldn't do it. So we'll bring them in now. Yeah
I will say this. Okay, so we've been off the air for a little bit, but we've been making the show and we've been
We're now we've filmed everything and we're in the editing room and most of it's cut together
We're about three quarters of the way through the editing
How you guys feeling about the season? How did you feel about making the show this year?
Yeah, how'd we feel about making the show? How did you feel about the process?
Well, as always the the filming of the show was an absolute blast
The writing of the show was absolute torture
The editing has been fun
Glenn you're you've been gone for a little while but you're coming you're gonna come back and which is nice because it's good
To get some fresh eyes on things. Yeah, we'll get
Next week to top of the week. We're all kind of free to get right in there. It was it was yeah
We we we wrapped and then I went straight to South by Southwest to remote the film Blackberry in theaters May 12th
Well, you know what that's when Fools Paradise comes out May 12th, you know competing
Did a movie yeah different in different years did we completely?
Yeah, when did when did we shoot Fools Paradise? You shot your stuff in 2018 2018
Yeah, and then yeah, I just shot Blackberry and they're coming out on there will be in theaters on the same paradise and Blackberry will
Will you have a Glenn Howard's and double feature?
You could have a Glenn Howard's and double feature you can see a film that I wrote and directed boy and I asked you to be in it
Too you were unavailable. Oh tech on avail. It's not true. That's a hundred percent true. What did you ask me to do?
I asked you to do two different things. I think you were fuck boy number three
I did you might have been you might have been busy like doing I'm not on the first pass on the reshoots
I asked you on my first pass. I didn't you know, I had Glenn
But I didn't have too many sunny people and then when I did my big reshoot
I was like, I'm using all my funny people David David also in the movie. I cannot wait to see this new version of it
I've only seen a version of it. I know you've changed so much last cut. I saw in 2020
I haven't seen the trail I want to see a trailer for yours. I see by the time this airs the trailer will have dropped great
So we'll be gobbling up that trailer. Let's Charlie. I saw the trailer for your movie. It's amazing. Unbelievable. I love it
I'm so excited. Yeah, I do. The trailer is unreal. Well, we're talking about this this season this year and how we felt about
Process. Oh, yeah. No, I was saying I was saying I was at South by Southwest and then I got back from South by Southwest and I
Immediately got COVID and so I missed the first few days of editing because of South by and I came back and had to miss like a
Week because of COVID and then I went straight to Hawaii
Some real really funny episodes. By the way, the show is coming out. What June?
Sometime in early June. So you can watch on that. You can watch Blackberry
You can watch Fool's Paradise and you can watch sunny
in in succession and
Dose you can watch succession
And you should watch succession all in succession and Tommy boy and Tommy boy
What do you guys think the effect of doing the podcast on the season was because this was the first season that we wrote?
Oh, I think really good from a writing standpoint. Yeah, because I think it was helpful to kind of go back and just
Be so in on
What our show is and what our techniques are so that when we were writing something
I don't know just feeling like really close to the show in a way
Because I feel like the episodes are all really strong and feel like
Throw about I don't know. I don't want to it always like a little me that I it feels like we come up with all the ideas for all
Of the episodes in like two or maybe three days of like blue skying
It's crazy and then it takes weeks and weeks and weeks to write it out and actually yeah
Well, we have one episode that came together at the very end because we had an incoming text from that's right. So that's why I was that one
No reason to be a make it a secret fuck
It was an interesting season to write it's it's definitely getting
You know, it gets challenging to try and come up with new
Things each year. It's always a challenge to write the show. It's never not been a challenge to write the show
It's never been like well that was easy
All it is all it is it's fixing mistakes. It is you make a thing and then you're like, all right
What doesn't work? How can we fix it and constant continuity errors?
You don't I mean that that that only matter to some people and don't matter to others
Hey, dude, take one you had your hat. Oh, we should put a challenge out to the creeps and listeners. Okay, so maybe
If there's any continuity issues that people have noticed one of the ones that they've known
Oh, yeah, we now any major continuity. You mean like there's a cameraman in the shot
Yeah, maybe just general well general mistakes are tricky because we did establish certain things and then just through intervention on us
Yeah, like for example Max says the best sex he's ever had in his life was with the woman and then another
Yeah, you're very straight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but but that's the evolution but but but the mom fetish thing
Yeah, it takes it to a next to another level. You know what I mean?
Like in some ways I could I could justify like the fact that you were into women back in the day because it was more of a mom
A weird mom thing. A gay man that also wants his mom to love him. Yeah
If we can look at what things we've established that we've evolved
That's one thing but things we've established and then just disregarded
Uh-huh, or if there's just straight continuity, I know one thing that people are gonna bring up and and and it's a big one
And we're gonna sort that out this season. So oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah
It's fun. It's gonna be fun. Yeah, I do think this season has a lot of things for that are just like straight up gonna
Please fans. Yeah, the show. Yeah, okay
So let's tease that one a little bit that that is something we have established very early on in the series
Mm-hmm season one season one a character we established that that
Fans continue to bring up whatever happened to you never talk about or you just completely dropped this character
And we'll find out and we'll find out this character
Mm-hmm. Yeah, well that's titillating enough to go out on I think Meg said tit