The Always Sunny Podcast - The Gang Wrestles for the Troops

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's take a look at the text chain here. 1043 AM on a Monday, Glenn Howardton. We should start a bit earlier if we can. We usually take at least 75 minutes with commercials. Can we start at 845? Charlie day, yeah, I can get there then. Rob McIllani, 845 works, exclamation point. Well, it's 8.45. Rob, Glenn, Megan, there's nobody here. There's nobody left at the podcast. This is it. It's fizzled down to nothing. Well, now Rob, how do you
Starting point is 00:00:50 feel about the fact that Glenn was the one who said, well, let's start at 8.45. I totally agree. And Megan, you're, you said you weren't going to be here, that's fair. Well, the gang wrestles for the trip. What a show, guys. In a what a show, like, how does Mark Marin do it? I wonder, you know, he just goes on and on and on by himself, oh, wait a second, we have an arriveder. We have, we have someone in the house. And he's not even gonna get the most razzed.
Starting point is 00:01:25 We're rolling solo now. Oh yeah, buddy. Right now just rolling completely solo. Yeah, I could sing a funny little song, but I'm not in the mood. My spirit is crushed. You know, people are trying to get to work. They're trying to be entertained. You know, they're up with their morning coffee.
Starting point is 00:01:42 They need more. They need more. We got to give them stuff, you know. Yeah, this is not something you want to do alone, right? Well, now you're demanded. we'd be here by this time. And I will say you were one minute late. We're just fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I thought it was gonna be worse than that and it was a total oversight. Where's this man? Well, that's a very good question. I don't know. I'm a little concerned because he's not one to be late, generally speaking. Oh, okay. Okay. I heard a voice. I know. That's crazy. I've been sitting out for 15 minutes reading my email because Glenn said he was going to be late. No, no.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I thought it's word of God. No, no. Yes. Unacceptable. I've been here since 815. Well, you haven't, you haven't. You really screwed up. You haven't been here since 815. You've been in an alleyway somewhere. When I get a text that says, Hey guys, I'm gonna be late. I just go, okay, well then he's gonna be late. So it's yeah, yeah, but I didn't say how late.
Starting point is 00:03:01 He didn't say how that, and it was very on you. I would have figured you would have been early to give him a little. River has me. I was, because it was his idea. I was like, you know, I sat here like a dick with my dick in my hands. I got this text and thought, no, but it could have been. That could potentially be fun, but I'm sure the audience has got to be sick of hearing
Starting point is 00:03:21 how one or two of us is late for the show that they want to watch. All of this is to maybe think we'll cut that. What's she's not here? What's on that piece of paper there that's in front of you? These are like questions. If someone wants to know. That's where I usually sit. She, yeah, she gave me the host questions, but that's going to be you today, Rob.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Okay. I'm getting wrestled for the truth. It's holy moly. Did you watch it? Did you see it? I did enjoy it. I watched it. Oh my God, I watched it very much. I enjoyed it very, very much.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yeah, yeah. It was a level of silliness to that one. Yeah. That's just pure joy. Gotta feel like we blew it. I feel like we should have bumped it up so that it was airing on, so that we were dropping it on Memorial Day.
Starting point is 00:04:00 But instead, we're recording the episode about wrestling for the troops. The day after Memorial Day. So that's, but I mean, you know episode about wrestling for the troops the day after Memorial Day. So that's, but I mean, you know, I guess that's the thing, but driving it on Memorial Day would have been sweet. Well, people would listen to podcasts on, while they're at their barbecues, they would have been like, hold the fucking party. They just dropped. I hang on a second, guys, a military themed podcast. Yeah. On a military themed holiday. Yeah. DJ was like,
Starting point is 00:04:25 but you were, what? I'm so sorry. Those jeans shorts off. That's getting wild. I mean, people think we were wearing jeans shorts yesterday. A lot.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Oh, a lot. A lot. A lot. Yeah, a lot of jeans shorts around the pool yesterday. The weather wasn't great here in Los Angeles so for Memorial Day. I flew in. I was in New York City.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I was in New York City. Fine. What were you doing? You know. What were you doing there? We had a little get together from my old man who was now 80 years old. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. 80. So 80. Yeah, he actually turned 80 in January, but we were like, well, I'll get together in the spring. Yeah, January, I don't want to have to go out there and January. Yeah, it was, it was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:11 It was lovely, you know, family, friends. To do anything else? To see a show while you're out there? No, in and out, pal. In and out. Okay, so you didn't, you didn't watch anything. I'm trying to think if I have a really interesting antidote, but I don't know we watched um antidote
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, if you had a really interesting antidote anecdote. I would definitely be Want to hear about that. This the added see it's a sneaky sea. It's a sneaky sneaky anecdote anecdote It's stupid. That's not what I was trying to say Now if you come back from New York, but the way that you said, don't, that would be a good anecdote for your discussion. Here in your New York, what else? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Season five, episode seven, gang wrestles for the troop, aired October 29th, 2009, fellas. It was written by Scott Martyr, Rob Rosal, and directed by Randall Einhorn. Randall Einhorn all over this season. Special guest stars Travis Schultz. This has been the soldier. This is Travis's first episode with us, yes? First appearance of Roddy Piper as DaBaniac. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:16 That's right. He's been on twice because he was selling in figure out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Don Fry as a wrestling opponent, huh? Okay. Now I'm glad that that was put in.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I'm glad that that was put in. That's a lot of wrestling. I'm glad he's wrestling. So, Ryan, I watched the episode yesterday and it jumped out at me as soon as the episode began, that Don Frye is, Don Frye is a pioneer of the UFC. He is one of the original,
Starting point is 00:06:48 like when Hoist Gracie was one, he was around that year. And around the early, early years, yeah. Really early. And in terms of he was fighting, or he was like, let's build a business called the UFC. He was fighting. Oh, listen, listen, if he had started that fucking business,
Starting point is 00:07:03 he wouldn't have been wrestling for us on, it's always said, but yeah, well, he wouldn't have been wrestling for us on its always say. But, yeah, well, people would know what they do. People would love what they do. Well, none of us were UFC fans at the time of... No, I remember, do you guys remember? That was when UFC was like, this is my memory of it at least, and you guys tell me if you remember this too.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It was advertised on TV. It was like VHS tapes, you could buy. I remember the mail in college watching a VHS of hoist graces. And it was brutal. Like people get their arms broken. Like it was, it was, it was, it was basically like cage, like blood sports style. I remember just some dude with a long beard who was kind of like heavy sat. It was like tank. The tank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, tank. Tank Abbott. Tank Abbott. Yeah. Yeah, David Tank Abbott. Yeah, all right. From Huntington Beach. Remember him.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Okay. Would you have the playing cards? What's happening right now? I want to find out the car. Okay, so I trade you a tank Abbott for a hoist gracy. So none of us were into the UFC at that time or when we shot this episode in 2009, but my 2009 UFC was was, was doing pretty well. Take it off, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:06 But we didn't realize that, that, that Don Fry was this pioneer of the UFC. And so I've subsequently, I've become a big fan. I've gone back and watched all of those early UFC events. All of them. I've seen everyone the first 20. Where does this man find the time? What if I, if I'm working out or something like that,
Starting point is 00:08:25 it's a good thing to pop along. Wait a minute, wait a minute. You have a UFC in the background while you're working out and you're actually paying attention, you're like, that's Don Fry. I was gonna sell. What the hell? You don't have to watch, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:38 it's not like... Yeah. Filmed subtitles, you can look away from the screen. That's a beautiful mind shit, man, where you can do two things at the same time. You can be a cop. You can look away from the screen. That's a beautiful mind shit, man, where you can do two things at the same time. Like you need to be concentrating on his form, where he's gonna hurt himself, he's in his voice. I find it motivating to watch that kind of blood sport.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Sure. Okay, I'm sorry, I interrupted, please continue. Were you annoyed by the fact that I've found it inspiring? I'm worried about you, I'm worried about your form. I'm worried about your form. While you're working out. I'm worried about your form while you're working out. You got to, you can't, I can't check it. I can't check it. I'm going to check it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 That's right. I mean, between sets. No, between sets. Between sets, you're watching sets. You're just looking up and you're like, you've seen some sweaty men and you're turning yourself into a sweaty man and you're seeing another sweaty man. I gotta be sweaty.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Like, how can I get a sweaty here? And then you're watching another man. You're saying, well, if there was another man in here for me to press against, that would be exciting. And then, I don't know. Well, if there was a man, I wouldn't want to press against, it would be Don Fry. Don Fry was, was, was, was, he was a wrestler. And it was like a collegiate American. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And he was a wrestling coach at, I believe, Arizona State. He was also a firefighter. And this was at a time where you were semi-professional. You were a fighter, but you were also like, you had a job. Oh, you had to. But he was one of those guys that came in early and was able to compete.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I believe he beat Hoist Gracie if he did his goals around that year. Are you serious? Yeah, Mark Coleman, I believe, there's a fight between Don Fry and Mark Coleman that's one of the most brutal things that's ever been caught on video tape. What have brutal what happens?
Starting point is 00:10:09 They savagely beat the living shit out of each other. That's still happening. What I what I what I never saw and never wanted to see was it Mike am I crazy in thinking that the really really early days of UFC they had a lot less rules. A lot fewer rules of Meg was here. She should point that out. Yes. She's there had a lot less rules. A lot fewer rules. If Meg was here, she'd point that out. Yes. She's a lot less rules. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:10:30 A lot fewer rules. A lot fewer rules. Yes. You could break, there was groin punches. Right. There was no eye gouging. No eye gouging. But that was kind of it.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I mean, you could snap people's limbs if you wanted to, right? You could still do that. If people don't tap out. You, yeah. You'll break your people's arms, get broken and things like that. I know, but that they, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty sad. Yeah, but there's things like, could you, could you, like, back in the day?
Starting point is 00:10:55 I mean, can you just straight up kick somebody in their knee and just buckle their knee backwards? You can still do that. You can do that now? Yeah, just break somebody's knee. Yeah, they have rules against elbows. Your elbows can only come at a certain angle across someone's face, which seems very specific. Yeah, it's worth.
Starting point is 00:11:13 It's worth it. They don't want you, they don't want you up or cutting. They don't want you getting that, you know, the bone into the, into the brain thing. Is that just a, is that a real thing? Is that a real way to kill somebody? To make their nose bone go into their brain? Or is that just one of those things?
Starting point is 00:11:24 I think that was another urban legends. Is there a really hear about that happening to make their nose bone go into their brain? Or is that just one of those other urban legends? Because you don't really hear about that happening. I've never heard of that. You think that that would happen in boxing from time to time? Yeah, you think, yeah, you'd be like, people just like trip and hit their nose on a table and like, oh, went up in your brain and you died. Yeah, you do. It's worth having Meg when she comes back to work.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Put up some of that UFC footage from an early fight. There was one in particular I'm thinking of with UFC footage from an early fight. There was, there was one in particular I'm thinking of with this guy named Joe Sahn. And Joe Sahn was on the ground and there was a guy that he was fighting who was just pounding on his dick. Just pounding on it. I mean, just pounding on it until eventually he tapped. From groin strikes. Yeah, that's legal. That would be an amazing thing too, if that was your signature move.
Starting point is 00:12:13 You know what I mean? Just pounding dick. Yeah, it's pounding dicks. In the ring, in the octagon, was it an octagon back then? I think that came in later. It was definitely a hexagon. Or, it could have been square. It could have a hexagon, or maybe it was a goner.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I could have been a square. Oh, if it was a square, that's just, you know, that's a mess. So, so Don Frye. Don Frye. And I was very struck by it because at the time, he was just a guy that Roddy was wrestling who was clearly an athlete.
Starting point is 00:12:41 I think Roddy brought him in. Yes, he did. Because I was like, I'm gonna have to do a routine with somebody. Let me call it buddy. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, you can make it look. Now, did Don Fry also wrestle in the WWF? Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Well, his nickname was the predator. Yeah, he had like a predator look. Yeah, I don't remember. Big mustache, big mustache. Yeah, he had a big mustache. Yeah, okay, yeah. I remember him now. No, I remember him now. Okay, well, should we talk about the episode? I Yeah. I don't remember. You must have had a big mustache. Yeah, okay, yeah. I remember him though. No, I remember him though.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Okay. Well, should we talk about the episode? I would love to. This episode is so funny. So funny. Roddy Piper, man. I mean, we could just talk about him. If there are people under the age of 35 watching
Starting point is 00:13:18 or listening to this, they can't really fully understand the cultural impact that Roddy Piper had. Yeah, so for us, the wrestling was what TikTok is now, you know, or YouTube. It was like, it was our stories. It was our soap opera. Yeah. A little bits of information. It's not a full narrative. It was at it's zenith. Yeah. You could argue. In the 1980s. Yeah. The late 1980s. I don't know, dude. I don't know. It's pretty big now. It's, it's always been big for, yeah. Maybe we were at our scene. We are. Yeah. I think it was at the point. We were awesome. Yeah. When you hit 12, you're, I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:52 Hulk, Hulk and Andre the giant. Cronty. Where? Tito Santana. Roddy Roddy Piper. Yeah. And she, yeah. Yeah. Uh, man. Right. sex George the animal steel Randy Randy the hitman savage or no Randy no Randy No, Randy much of man. Yeah, you know what it was It was the hitman heart like breath the head man heart the head man heart The heart machine and steroids were like Just you know finding their sweet spot of like we can really juice a guy up. Yeah. Look what we do to this mantra, man. Yeah, we'll turn him into a... I wanna see how much we can make this guy.
Starting point is 00:14:30 He's more macho than man. First of all, look at his sunglasses. Yeah. It's like a windshield. But the characters that those guys created, I mean, you go back and sell you a lot. Fantastic. Fantastic. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Macho, man. It's ready to be. Ready to have it is barely, he is a true savage. He's barely a person. It's great. He's what I was when you live in on Slim Gems and steroids. To what extent is it fake? Is it real?
Starting point is 00:14:53 They keep it so. I think they take Umbridge with the word fake because it, and we kind of address this in the episode, it's not fake, and so far as they are putting their bodies through that. Oh yeah. It's just that it's choreographed. It's choreographed.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It's certain, it's not. Because you can kind of wing it. You have signals though, you know, when they do like the, you know, they're like indicating to each other, like, you know, or like slapping stuff, and they're like, okay, now he's gonna do the thing. Like, there's little codes, right, that they throw up. Yes, I always thought when you hear that it's choreographed,
Starting point is 00:15:24 you have this idea in mind that it's very rehearsed and before the show, they've gone through all of the moves and it kinda isn't that. They figure out who's gonna win and then they have a couple of moves that they know they're gonna do. But, and then everything. And then Andre, the giant, would just do whatever he wanted
Starting point is 00:15:42 and everybody had to just go along with it. And Roddy says in his book, I read that his book. Oh yeah, and the Pippa Piper. In the Pippa Piper. the giant would just do whatever he wanted and everybody had to just go along with it. And Roddy says in his book, I read his book, in the paper, in the paper, in the paper. I read that book too. He talks about, yeah, it's amazing. He talks about, all over the place. Andre, he talks about Andre was, so it didn't matter who was wrestling Andre, including Hulk Hogan and Big John stud and like massive man.
Starting point is 00:16:05 If Andre wanted to pick you up and throw you into Neptune, he could. Really? Yes. Now towards the end of his life and career, he was falling apart. Yeah, he looked big, but not as so strong. He was so strong. He was so strong. They were saying like the difference between muscle and just like straight up mass, if somebody
Starting point is 00:16:20 weighs 500 pounds, it doesn't matter. If you weigh 300 pounds, if you are Shaquille O'Neal, but if somebody weighs 200 pounds more than you, you're picking up Shaquille O'Neal. You're picking up Shaquille O'Neal and you're throwing him. That's wild. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Imagine being able to toss somebody as big as Hulk, Hogan, or Randy Macho Man sat in. Well, you think of yourself as a grown man, and you're like, well, there's no other grown man. There's a grown man. There's very few grown men that you think could actually pick you up like, well, there's no other grown man. There's a grown man. There's a grown man. There's very few grown men that you think could actually pick you up like a child and just throw you, right? But Shaq could do that.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah, absolutely. Sure. Relative. Yeah, if you think about your child, like no matter what, if your child came at you with like punches, you'd eventually just grab one and throw him across the street. You could do that if you wanted to.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. But I would do it for another child. And another child came at me. Sure. I would toss it.
Starting point is 00:17:13 But if you outweigh something by 150 pounds, you could, yeah, yeah, you can, right. How tall was he? We know. They list him at seven, almost eight feet tall, which he was not. I think he was like seven, five, seven, four, seven, five. Yeah, I mean, there's NBA players taller than him, but not bigger than him. Yeah, but it's the tall, it's the tall with the big. It's the tall with the big.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah, those photos of him drinking a beer. Yeah, that looks like a little sipic cup. Yeah, like a sipic cup on his hand. He could drink a case of beer to sit in. Oh, it's always, what's tallest man was like 8, 11 or something crazy, right? He was like in the floor, he's like Robert Walslow or something like that, Lawless Loan. And he was, yeah, he was 8 feet tall.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah, I know, he was taller than 8 feet. He was like 8, we need our fact checker because I was actually just looking this up the other day too because I don't know miles was talking about it. We'll ask me the last night who the tallest man ever was Yeah, and it was like Robert Wadlow and I'll tell you I'm gonna say he's eight six the man himself was what eight nine eight ten eight eleven Well how was he when he died nine and two six was he thirty six he had to be very though a lot thirty two oh no he was twenty two years old when he died because they dragantism yeah they probably is the proper term is that
Starting point is 00:18:39 what they call it they probably don't call it that anymore, right? Because that's offensive to Johnny. I don't know, cut that. Cut that, cut that, cut that. Don't cut it. I cut that fuck, giants. They have it all. We used to be able to openly slay giants. Wasn't that cool? Early man would slay a giant. You know, slaying giants is very frowned upon.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I know you can't slay giants anymore. Back in mythological days, I always tell you very frowned upon. I know you can't slay giants anymore. Back in mythological day, you know, I was the little fly. I'm not saying anyone. Um, oh man. I do got, but Roddy was the, was the best. So the crazy thing about Roddy is, if he's gonna go and wrestle someone
Starting point is 00:19:17 who's seven feet tall or Hogan, who's six six or something like that, six seven. Yeah, Roddy was not live. 11, and six not live. he crossed over into mainstream entertainment just a little bit. You know, this is, you know, the rock obviously did it best, but like Hogan kind of dabbled, but no one ever was like, eh, he's an actor, you know, Schwarzenegger was kind of taking the big guy roles, you know, for Big Muscley Man. But Roddy like had a couple indie movies
Starting point is 00:19:47 that became like cult classics. They lived. I'm very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, he would, I mean, he would interact with us, but like he was, he was, he was in character. He kind of stayed in character to a degree. And I remember thinking at the time, and I think I brought this up to you guys. Like he was so good and playing it so real. And so his performance was so haunted that it was like, I was watching him thinking
Starting point is 00:20:24 he could have played the wrestler. And the rest of Darren Aeronoski is the wrestler. He would have been amazing. He kind of like- And Mickey Rork was incredible. He kind of would like say the lines. He kind of would say his own thing sometimes, remember?
Starting point is 00:20:37 And it was a little yet to kind of dance around communicating with him, although he was nice. But like he didn't like give off the like, hey, we're just gonna chit chat and hang. I feel like when it came back the second time. He did. Yeah, I mean, he, he, when we were off the stage in the dressing room, so I spent a lot of time talking to him. He was a completely different person. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Yeah, but, but as soon as he got on set, he was kind of in the mania. Yes, it was the mania. He was the mania. He was the mania. He had the most amazing stories. The most amazing stories. He, well, it told me he survived a couple of playing crashes. But they would like take these like little puddle jumper planes so they could like do as many wrestling shows, you know, they would be like an Ontario Canada. And then they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:21:17 we're just going to pop over to some other little town and we're going to do a show really quick. And they would, and like occasionally the engines would drop out of these things. He said he likes to buy, I think he told me at least three playing games. He might've said five. But he walked away from them. He had been stabbed by a fan, or I don't know if you would call somebody a fan who stabs you, but he was out.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I mean, big fan. Sorry to do this, but huge fan, huge fan. Well, he would say that would go into these markets and and Roddy always played the heel because that's what he was good at. So he was always the guy that everybody booed and died jeered. And people would be whipped up into a frenzy and then they would truly believe that this guy was like a bad guy. He always played a bad guy. And so with some some maniac, some crazy person at one of these events just took out a knife and just stabbed him a bunch of times.
Starting point is 00:22:08 As he was headed to the ring, how did he dispense with that guy? Did he actually, like, did he get stabbed? Do you remember? Did he tell you this story? Yeah, he got, and it's in the book too. He got stabbed and then beat the shit out of the guy. And then from that point forward, he had a pistol. He had a pistol with him.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He had a jacket. He always wore a jacket. Well, that's, it's the same jacket he wore on the show. Yes. That was his jacket. That was his jacket. He showed me where he kept his pistol, which he kept his still kept in his jacket.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And that jacket was... And that jacket was... And that jacket was... And that jacket was... Stopped from the stabbing. So stabbing, and the... And the hide the pistol. And the hide the little... Yeah. there's the little darenjur.
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Starting point is 00:26:46 The very end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So at the end, Roddy had a whole monologue about how much he loves us and he cares about us. And whoever was driving the police car got the cue wrong. So the car just takes off. It was like take one, I think. He's starting to say his monologue.
Starting point is 00:27:03 He goes, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, he doesn't get to say his monologue. He goes, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, he doesn't get to say his monologue. And it just wanted to be. It was so funny. It was so funny. It was so much more real, right? Like, the cop doesn't wait for you to say your monologue and then drive off, right?
Starting point is 00:27:14 So like, so is my memory wrong? Cause my memory of that is actually that he didn't have a speech. But he wanted to do a speech. I think that's actually more accurate. And I think he wanted to improvise a speech. And he told us, and so we knew he was going to do it. That's what nobody told the driver.
Starting point is 00:27:31 So that's absolutely right. Is that so? Yeah, it's a guess. Because he wanted to do a thing. And we were, you know, we're like, yeah, go on, let's do it. Let's do it. And no one had told the driver. So he started doing the way he's doing it.
Starting point is 00:27:43 That is so funny. And that is of course so much funnier. Yeah. Oh my boys. Oh my boys. My boys. He grows very close to us. He thinks of us as his children.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Now you've talked about this on an earlier podcast, but I think it's worth mentioning again, that you had this idea on the day that we were shooting the scene where he pulls the razor wire out of his car, which was also not in the script. I think we gave him a bunch of props and then he came up with the idea, I think of pulling the razor wire out
Starting point is 00:28:17 and asking how he would do. It was his idea to do a wrestling bit. We get you in the balls, that's it. The crowd loves that. Oh yes, right, right, right. It was like bringing a wrestling bit. Yeah, by the way, I love how real in the balls. That's the crowd loves that. Oh, yes, right, right, right. It was like bringing a wrestling bit. Yeah. By the way, I love how real you play that.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And I love you play it till the end of the scene. Like you just, it's never, it never doesn't hurt. But I was thinking like, I was like watching it. I was like, I should have played it a little bit in the next scene, but we might have shot the cricket scene before we decided to do the rears of it. Yeah, maybe, maybe. You had the idea of when we ask him about his kids
Starting point is 00:28:44 that he goes, they dress up. Goes really dark. And he goes really haunted. the idea of when we ask him about his kids that he goes, Hey, Dressa goes really dark. And he goes really haunted. And you don't know what happened to his kids. And that leaves us reeling like, did this guy kill his kid? Did this, did he kill his kids?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Did he, what happened to his kids? Yeah. Guys like you, you know what? I love you guys, right? You know you remind me of my kids. You got kids, maniac? No, not anymore. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:29:23 All right. We got a problem. I don't know what is he talking about with his kids? He just killed his kids? He just drifted away. He nails that delivery. Yeah. You see his, he told real things.
Starting point is 00:29:33 It's so real. He goes, he really goes there. Something sad has happened. He's lost, he's lost touch with his, his children. Now, did Brody have children in real life? He does. Yeah, he's got a son I I know for sure, and a daughter. And I worked with his daughter, I directed a commercial
Starting point is 00:29:48 with Rhonda Rousey, and she was fighting somebody. It was Rod's daughter. Really? Yeah, who she is. She might be in the WWE. That's awesome. I miss Roddy. He was a great guy.
Starting point is 00:30:00 He was a great guy. He was. He was. And a great actor. I do love this trend of ours, though, of, and I have tremendous respect for comedians and comedic actors, but I do love that we have this trend of like wanting to get dramatic performers on our show. You know, like, it was always funny, funny or to us. I mean, even initially, when we were, you know, going over people that could possibly play,
Starting point is 00:30:28 you know, Dennis and D's dad, that we were talking about Ray Leota, that we were talking about. Ray Leota was number one. Ray Leota was, that was our number one for a while. But that was before Danny came. Yes, when we were just knocking around the ideas.
Starting point is 00:30:43 We were like, wow, Ray Liotta would be amazing. Imagine Ray Liotta as Frank. He would have been incredible. It's a completely different character. It's a totally different character, a totally different show. My character probably wouldn't have ever gotten his angry because Ray Liotta would have taken that role. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:59 The show would have been great, but like, hey, hey, hey, that's great. Hey, no, Danny, yeah. No, no. Only Danny can do it, you know. Not only Ray can do it, Ray does. Yeah. But, you know, and that's, that's the thing. But I liked, I've always kind of gravitated towards that.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I really enjoy watching dramatic actors give dramatic performances in a comedy where the situation in the character and the want is so crazy that that's what makes it funny. And the performance itself is very grounded and real. I love that. Well, speaking of drama, the wonderful dramatic scene of deciding what our team name is going to be, and what they're, what, how we describe what they are,
Starting point is 00:31:36 and us basically just describing birds to you. When I was watching this episode yesterday, I wanted to watch those outtakes, because I remember them being very funny. And there were some notable missing things. And I don't know why I remember this, but I remember we went on a lot of different riffs about a lot of different wrestlers. You did a whole bit about Coco Beware.
Starting point is 00:32:01 You did a whole bit about the junkyard dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember you doing a bunch of riffing on a bunch of different wrestlers, and I remember just crying laughing at all that. I was big into wrestling, so. Yeah, so was I, well, in that particular era, I was as well.
Starting point is 00:32:17 So all the, that's why it was so funny to me because I knew all the wrestlers that you were referencing, but had like, you kind of forgot about. I forgot about it. I would do like this neighborhood royal rumbles in my buddies basement where we would like move the chairs and into like a, oh yeah. And then the last man standing in the middle wins. Yes. And so the move usually was like, gang up on the biggest kid first, like everyone go out for the biggest kid, get him out of the ring. Right. Smart. And then we can.
Starting point is 00:32:44 That's what they, that's what they would do in the Royal Rumble. Yeah, I would go after Andre first. Like go after it. Yes. Slowly but surely, you just, you know, the best. You never know who's going to wind up in the Royal Rumble. You leave that giant in the ring. Anything can happen. Yeah. So slay the giant first again. I, you know, Chinese silk in hair. Who came up with that? Rob Rosal.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Rob Rosal, right? I feel like a hot dog. No, Roddy had a great head of hair. Yeah, sure. He did all the way till the end there. Yeah. How old will see when he passed? 60s probably.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's too young. Too young. Maybe 60. Yeah, maybe 60, but I don't need to be. Hard living. Hard living. Yeah, his 60, but I don't know. Hard living. Hard living. Yeah, his book, the book is worth checking out in the pit with Piper. I do remember just being absolutely blown away at the stories that he was telling.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And it is literally just a collection of stories. Like, it's all over the place. There's no narrative like I'm. It's like being in his head. He just jumps all over the place, but the stories. The anecdotes, if you will but the stories, the anecdotes, if you will, are or the anecdotes depending on it to be the cure to what else are really fun.
Starting point is 00:33:51 The antidotes to boredom. Yeah. It's the antidote to boredom. The scene where we meet Ben and he comes off that bus. First of all, Kaylyn is great in that scene as Desert Rose and she looks so damn funny. The costume market concept is so. Yeah. Is amazing damn funny. The costume, or concept, is amazing. So on the nose, everything that she's doing. She dressed like a rose, she brought a rose.
Starting point is 00:34:11 She's gonna sing Desert Rose. Yeah, she's gonna sing, kiss her rose, sorry. Kiss her rose by seal. And then she runs off. And Danny, okay. Now this is the difference between one of the radio to a dramatic actor, versus a comedic actor, where Danny doesn't say anything
Starting point is 00:34:27 as he's playing the song, or he's just looking at his music. He's trying to be the eating guy. He goes, yeah. Man. He does like a noise, he's like, and then he pushes the button, then he's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah. You know, looking at him like, huh? That's seen too, like, and then he presents him Jean Shortz and he kind of drapes them and he like salutes them and drapes them. The kind of thing that is what I feel like would be so misunderstood by anyone who was in a sunny fan or had it like if you just watch that scene for the first time you're like, well, this isn't funny. These guys are going for something and it's just not working.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But when you know the show and you know the tone and you've lived with it for years, it is the funniest. I love it. I love it. I love it so much. It was one of the biggest live on the episode. Yes, it's incredible. Yeah. On paper, you're like, that's the kind of thing that people are like, why is this? Like, if you show someone that scene for the first time, I'm like, so this is the show.
Starting point is 00:35:19 They're like, huh? Gene Shortz and Slooting a Man. Well, okay. So let's stop down for a second because I get asked this question quite a bit, and I don't know what the answer is, and maybe we can figure it out on this podcast. There are definitely episodes, so when someone says, I've never seen your show,
Starting point is 00:35:33 but I wanna start, because I hear I've heard enough about it. Where should I start? I never, I just tell them not to watch it, because they're probably not gonna get it. But what's the episode to where you begin? And I definitely know the episodes where you shouldn't begin. Like a pilot.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Don't start with the first one. Well, I was watching it yesterday in Caitlin. I paused it for a second to come into the kitchen and I was laughing and she said, I can hear you laughing in the other room. What are you laughing about? And I was laughing at how the show is so specific. It's so specific.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And this episode is so specific. And I can see why if you like it, you would love it because it's very niche and specific. And if you don't like it, I can also understand why you wouldn't like it. And this episode in particular, it feels like to your point, Charlie, you have to know the show so well to get so much of it, I think.
Starting point is 00:36:27 But I think I am always of the mindset that you just have to make that. Like you have a vision for a thing and a voice and you just fucking stick to it. And they'll either come around to it or they won't. They may never, or they may come late. Like a lot of people just didn't get or understand our show. And they all now kind of are like,
Starting point is 00:36:52 well, yeah, that show is great. Maybe around the time that we were doing that scene, the people who were already in love it, the people who didn't know would be like, I don't know what the fuck this show is. Yeah, I don't know why I was doing dressin' like birds and handing someone gene shorts. Why is this funny?
Starting point is 00:37:08 But then like, over time, the people who are gonna come around to it really appreciate the fact that you get so specific, right? And then the people who are never gonna get are just never gonna get it. But if we were like, we can't really do this scene, we gotta do something that reaches a wider audience and would kill the show, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:23 That's what art is, right? You just gotta fucking, but it's great when you can do both, right? It's amazing if you can... Yeah, if you can... You can both. Yeah, that's the sweet spot. Yeah, but sometimes you can't. Sometimes you got hands on one gene shorts and salute them. And see what happens. And that's it. And talk about desert roses and desert grapes. The casting of Travis, I mean, Travis, every once in a while, we'll write something and then you go through the audition process
Starting point is 00:37:49 and you see people come in and every once in a while, someone will just come in and nail it and you're like, yep, that's the one. And you can't imagine anyone else being a character. You're like, well, that's the guy. It feels so good to finally hold you. What? You're riding my lip.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Hi! Oh! What a coincidence! Hey, uh, uh, you are there going for the bus stop? Yes, I am. Well, you guys are friends, right? Not really. Well, tell your friend, thanks for the shorts. They fit great.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah, we'll do. So what's the deal with you standing? I thought there was a wheelchair and you were in it. Oh, no, no. I twisted my knee getting off of playing in Germany. I was just trying to stay off of it. That's good enough, see? Oh, yes it is.
Starting point is 00:38:35 It's so great, because he's nothing like that in real life. He's nothing like that. But he knows exactly what's funny about him, to come in and he's handsome and he kind of has that, just that quality that he can turn off and on where he's just sort of sweet and dim-witted. And he's very sweet in real life, but he's certainly not dim-witted.
Starting point is 00:38:54 No, he just knows exactly what's funny about him. Yeah, that's why we've gone back to the well with him so many times. Yeah, the Travis Will. Where do the Gene Short's thing come from? Well, it's interesting, because we talked about it in the, uh, the extreme makeover episode about I was wearing longer Gene Shorts and you had the cutoffs and you could do the
Starting point is 00:39:13 great legs, Bradson. We already had. So we've already done a bit. A Gene Short bit. But Rosalind just has an obsession with Gene Shorts. I think that was right. Yeah, that's right. So yeah. And then we got, we, you know, we hit it again with Chad later, but he was like, got to get the shorts off, because you're going to blow the cross. Well, once we established, once we established Ben, the soldier wearing those gene shorts in this episode and being like, they fit great. That was it for him.
Starting point is 00:39:36 That was his, that was his, I think we've only ever seen his character. We know if he's probably seen him in something else since then, but mostly he's been in gene shorts. Yeah. If he was in something else, it was, mostly he's been in Gene Short. Yeah, if he was in something else, it was for a very specific reason, but yeah, he just kind of continued to wear those Gene Short's and our character Z had to let him know that you do have to take them off
Starting point is 00:39:55 every now and then. It's a funny plot, too. Do you think we would think of that plot today to be like, we're gonna do a wrestling match? Oh, I was so labored. And I remember being labored in the writers room. We knew we wanted to do something with wrestling. How do we get into it?
Starting point is 00:40:12 How can we justify it? It's clunky as hell. That's just a really not-er-ad. Just a lot. Yeah, we don't really justify it. The motivation is just that. There's something about maybe us being younger too, or you still just kind of buy these guys
Starting point is 00:40:25 want to put on like a wrestling match. Yeah, and it feels like maybe the characters are too old for that shit now. I don't know. Some place. Well, I mean, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got Roddy, you got Roddy telling us, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:37 he's like, you know, you kids, he's calling us kids and stuff. And like back then, that didn't even, like, didn't even fully occur to me that even then we weren't kids. Cause in my mind, I still was a kid, even though it was in my 30s. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah. The characters certainly were. Well, maybe it works because Charlie says, we'll do this to celebrate America. We'll do it to celebrate the troops. Maybe celebrate ourselves a little bit. And that's when we really get on board. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:42:57 That's just statistically true. That's the one of the other. And who is that going to be? Well, who's the same, man, you know? But we should probably figure that out because the books are open, baby. No, I mean literally like who's playing. I don't know.
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Starting point is 00:44:54 Is that right? I think, no, we didn't have any sort of a journey in mind for him, but... He already bashed his legs up good. In, yes, he'd gotten his legs up, good? Uh, in, yes. He'd gotten his legs bashed up by the gangsters. But yes, he is, he is relatively clean cut when we go see him at the men's shelter. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Um, some great outtakes from that scene as well. Um, that we can throw up. He's pretty great as the throw up. Let's throw up those up, those outtakes now. For f***ing... How do you find me? I always find me. You know we check all the Suck places and the backhounds and bathhouses in the area. I found you at this This is not no this is not a suck joint. This is an adult men's rehabilitation center an adult center
Starting point is 00:45:44 That's the point we're trying to make. We can reap between the lines. His sand move. Yeah, he had a specific idea of what the sand was going to be. Yeah, I liked it too. I liked his style on that. What were we doing with this sand? What was he blowing into our face? I don't know because he really was blowing something.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Something, right? Yeah, so I don't, and it looked like we were really getting hit with it for sure. So yeah, I don't know what we would have been okay with. It was definitely around the time where it would have been something that that Glenn would have been like, wait, wait, can we talk about what this is? And you and I would be like, shut up, just do it. Just do it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And it might have been like a spastic. Now, it wouldn't have been, but if it was 1975, you and I would be like, shut up, just do it, just do it. And it might have been like a spastic. Now, it wouldn't have been, but if it was 1975, Charlie and I would have been the same people, and you would have been like, well, can we talk about what it is we're breathing in? And Charlie would be like, we'd be like, dude, stop being a pussy, just fucking do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:37 And then meanwhile, you're getting actually. You'd do that as in our hospital rooms. Yeah, I'd be able to see, remember? How about Danny as the trash man? What's your memory of this? Do you remember? He seemed to enjoy it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:48 I feel like he liked being in that onesie. Yeah. He kills it in this episode, top to bottom. I mean, when he's, you know, when he first comes out as a trash man, first of all, I love the old school. Yeah, the old school. He was a George Strong George Adam or steel. Now, there's a great, look, and the character was kind of in that zone where George was
Starting point is 00:47:07 not really supposed to be. He was a part animal. Yeah. Wasn't his thing chewing on your head. He like, no, he would eat the turnbuckle. Oh, that's it. He would chew the turnbuckle because he was, he was a beast. Yeah, he was a beast.
Starting point is 00:47:19 He was an Adam. I don't know what they were selling, what they were selling there was he was like raised in the jungle. I don't know, but he would eat. It was a barbarian type situation, right? He was raised in a basement, but since the last time we spoke, I just enjoyed. But so, yeah, maybe he was like they finally let him out from the basement of the place. Right. And he didn't know not to chew the term book.
Starting point is 00:47:42 No, because he was raised by everything was food as far as he was concerned. If I could get it in my mouth, it's true. Turnbuckles especially. Sure, they're so often packed. Chewy. And according to the stories that you might find in the pit with Piper, there is some truth to some of the characters. Like people didn't want to hang out with George Yanimal Steel because he was really like, deranged. Yeah. I mean, no, no, no, he might not be eating term buckles
Starting point is 00:48:07 and it was off time, but it was like, guys, keep that guy away. Keep meta-dose. Now before Vince McMahon sort of turned it into a mega business or whatever, was there another guy who was like, his father, his father ran, and it was like, it was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah. Yeah. Well, there was like, it was like, it was super regional. They had like the southern belt and then they had the Canadian. Yeah, a lot of Canadians. So a lot of it was like North America and there was a, wasn't there a WCW? Am I making that up? Yeah. And then they just started consolidating the more. Which probably had as much to do with how television work at the time time. Yeah. Vince is the one that consolidated everything.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Like Rick Flair was in a completely different organization. And then it was like a more regional, a lot of Rick Flair stories in, in Roddy's book. Yes. A lot of Jake the snake. Yes. Yes. In Roddy's book. Jake the snake who became a governor, right? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:49:04 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And he was tall. He had long hair. Did he not take the snake? He had a mullet. Yeah, mullet and a mustache. Yeah. And not a great body, but huge. Probably like six, five or something. Yeah, and a maniac of a person also in real life. Any what? He knew Carrie that snake around. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:35 And then he would knock you out and then he would take the ball constrictor and just put it on your body. And for some reason, that would cause you to foam at the mouth. There was no sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, they were tortured as poor snake and bringing it into the wrestling match. Snake is like, what do I get to eat one of these guys?
Starting point is 00:49:52 Yeah, am I ever gonna actually get to finish off one of these guys? What was the name of the snake Clementine or something like that? The snake had a name. The snake had a name. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Sure. Sure. Yeah, I don't know. So then Ric Flair was like, oh, no. He was a hero. I'm not sure. Sure. Yeah, I don't know. So then Rick Flair was like, oh no. He was a hero. He was like a, yeah. Who was like the hype man guy with like the mega heart?
Starting point is 00:50:12 Oh, Jimmy Hart. Jimmy Hart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Bobby the brain, Heenan, he was also hype man. Bobby the brain, Heenan. And then there were like the no name guys that like would come in and wrestle like you'd be like sure. And then this week week you're wrestling.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah, but it was cool to kind of track how some some guys would start as no name people and then they would transition. They would re-brenzer. Yeah. Like Macho Man started off off, I believe is leaping Lenny Poffo. And then he had like a complete different. Well, Lenny Poffo was also a pretty good name. And then he just transitioned into a different character. I believe Jimmy super fly snooker.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Oh Jimmy. So Jimmy super fly snooker got got almost killed by Roddy. Rod Roddy. He had him over the head with a coconut and like cracked his fucking head open on TV on television. On television. On television. Yeah, it gave him such a bad concussion. Yes, I smashed them.
Starting point is 00:51:07 So I thought, you know, you boys, it's coconuts. I thought your head was coconut like in a cutake it, you know, coconut on coconut. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, now my head is not made of coconut, Roddy. And they're coconut together. One of them's got a break.
Starting point is 00:51:22 You don't know which one. So that's the, I think that's the rub when people say it's fake. Like it's not, it's not fake. It's just that when you hit somebody with it over the head with a coconut and you don't pull the punch a little bit, it's going to knock his, it's going to knock him on contact. It's not, it's not fake. I mean, fry like a rib kick that seems pretty real in the, in the, I'm sure we add a little
Starting point is 00:51:41 sound effect, but boy, it seems like the foot hits the rim. I mean, these guys were so hopped up on painkillers because they were getting hurt. Yeah. Like left and right. Jigging like an Advil smoothie in the morning. Yeah, just 65 Advils. Yeah, just the vikin' in a bottle of vodka, you know, a pint of vodka and just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:59 That's what's up. The song, the Birds of War, we must have put that beat in in post, the boom. We did, and yeah, we never matched up. It's a little bit of a problem. We didn't have the fucking earwigs. We needed that you got to have the earwigs to stay on beat, otherwise you're gonna speed up
Starting point is 00:52:17 or slow down, you know, and we could have just had somebody go in and post and literally like slow down and speed up with us. Yeah. You know, but you know, this season five. That's more than that. Yeah. I mean, you know, edited by Tim Roach, it recognizes voices.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love this season.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah. I love this season. It just was a great time of our lives. I do think that we had really hit our stride in this season, it just was a great time of our lives. I do think that we had really hit our stride in this season. I remember thinking it at the time, it still feels to me like two, three, and four. We were still tweaking it and finding it. That's great, great, great episodes in those seasons. But like season five feels like where we really found it. The scene of delivering him the shorts feels like the kind of thing you can only do when
Starting point is 00:53:11 you feel as though you've found your voice. Right? And you're like, we know what our voice is. We feel confident to just sit with Danny and this song and that this is entertaining enough for who we're trying to entertain. The painted abs. Last thing. What did that, was that in the script, or did we?
Starting point is 00:53:27 No, I remember asking Leo Votro to do that. And just do it. And then that was one of those where you were like, I don't know if we should do this. And I was like, Leo, just paint it on, just paint it on. And you were like, I don't know, we should talk about it. And I was like, just stop, just stop. And then nine times out of 10, you do that.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I do that. And then I get to the end of it and I'm like, eh, just erase it, but I did it. And then you looked at it and you're like, okay, I'll do that. Yeah, that's funny. That's so funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah. Even the costumes, just the hat, the feathers on the shoulders, that's, you know, that, like, we'll describe it a little bit, but then the costume department has to go and make it. And like between desert rose and that bird costume and the trash man and the Taliban. The Taliban, they just really knocked it out of the park. Totally.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah, but I regret that we were off beat on that song, because I feel like the song, I feel like the song would actually be more iconic if it had been more on beat. If we nailed it. Yeah. This is how well I know you guys. It did not bother me, but I was bothered for you.
Starting point is 00:54:30 And as we were watching it, I was like, definitely these guys are watching it. It's gonna bug the shit. It's gonna bug me because I knew ahead of time, because I remembered the trauma of being like, we didn't nail the rhythm of the thing. But, well, I think we nailed the rhythm of the podcast. I did, I did too.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I did too. Drop a beat for us, you ready? So, clap, so, so, clap, so, clap, so, so, clap, come on, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, He flies through the night. But you bet with his eggs now. Oh, you see him smile. Yes, we have had us. But the muscles have made. Those were birds of war now! Ah!
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