This Past Weekend - E488 Nick Kyrgios
Episode Date: March 14, 2024Nick Kyrgios is a professional Tennis player and commentator based in Australia. He was a 2022 Wimbledon Finalist and one of the only players to beat the big 3 of Novak Djokovic, Roger Federer and Raf...ael Nadal at least once. He also hosts his own podcast, “Good Trouble with Nick Kyrgios” which is available on all platforms. Nick Kyrgios joins This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von to chat about his reputation for being “the bad boy of Tennis”, how it felt beating some of sport’s biggest icons, why he thinks he played some of his best tennis after going to the pub, his now-viral heated exchange with Ben Stiller, ideas for evolving the game, and more. Nick Kyrgios: https://www.instagram.com/k1ngkyrg1os/ ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ Shopify: Go to http://shopify.com/theo to sign up for a $1-per-month free trial. Factor: Go to http://factormeals.com/theo50 and use code theo50 to get 50% off. Morgan and Morgan: Go to http://forthepeople.com/thispastweekend or dial #LAW (#529) from your phone. ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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He was a finalist at the 2022 Wimbledon.
He has his own podcast called Good Trouble.
Very excited to sit down with one of Australia's
most unique personalities.
Today's guest is Nick Kirgios. And I will find a song I've been singing
I'm off the stage
Thank you guys for coming man. Yeah Nick Curios. Yep Curios. That was pretty good. And you have a new podcast of your own. Yeah, it's called Good Trouble. Good Trouble, yeah.
Just had Gary V on, Jay Shetty, had a couple cool people.
Gordon Ramsay.
I thought about what about Bi Curious would be a name.
Bi Curious, yeah.
Look, there was definitely a lot of spin off of names.
Was there?
Yeah, but Good Trouble.
Being Curious?
Yeah, Being Curious, yeah.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of a different one.
Hey, Curious. That's kind of Italian, but.
Yeah, that's fine.
Dude, thanks for hanging out with me, man.
Thank you guys for welcoming me into your country.
It feels like my biggest audiences are here.
Really? Yeah.
All my mates, we like what you bring.
Thanks, man. Definitely.
What's it been like for you recently?
I know you kind of have had like a little bit of a break
from playing tennis, right?
Yeah, I've had two surgeries now in the last year.
Had my left knee, had a right wrist surgery as well.
So just trying to get back healthy, man.
I had best year of my career.
Yeah.
Finals of Wimbledon, love and life.
And then a couple injuries, but it's good, man.
I like being back in Australia,
because if I'm healthy, I'm traveling like eight months a year
away from family and friends.
Just for tennis, it takes that much of commitment?
Yeah, well, there's tournaments every week.
You play every week in different places, different countries.
So I'm pretty happy, like not to be injured,
but to spend some time with the families.
Yeah.
Is it dangerous?
Like I would be scared because comfort gets kind of dangerous, you know
Yep, like you're comfortable or you have just a even just getting to go to the like the things I miss when I'm away from home
It's even just getting to go to the gym with my mates like little things like that
It's like that would keep me from going and doing
Some dates sometimes some shows. It's like I just want to have this. No, yeah.
Does that kind of shit start to like war your brain at all?
Like.
Yeah, well that's what I was missing.
Like for 10 years, I was traveling week in, week out.
I missed just waking up in my own bed,
like spending time with my dogs, all my friends,
like going to the cafe.
And I guess I'm getting that now, which is good.
Like I'm definitely spending more time in Australia.
I'm busy though, like you know how it is even when you're back home
You're trying to you know have meetings or be busy and stuff. But yeah, look
I I don't mind just being from Canberra and chilling in Sydney a little bit
Yeah in tennis because I don't know a ton about tennis. I used to live with some people and they played it a lot
Yeah, and they had a little bit of money. They would drink wine and like eat like a lot of um
Charcuterie and stuff. Yeah, but they would do tennis during the daytime, you know, and the skirts, I like
the skirts on the women and um, but outside of that, I never knew a ton about
it, you know, is it like, cause you've gotten to be at a level in it.
That's that's really impressive, right?
When you get to certain levels, you get to see what the next shelf is like,
or what that, you know, you get a better look
at certain things, right?
Do you see that there's like a thing
that makes some people get to an elite level?
Like, is it extra training?
Is it commitment?
Is it just nature?
Like, is it just that some people just have it?
Like, I'm just curious about like,
what can you see once you get to your level that separates the elites?
And I'm not saying you're not an elite player.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I was about to just go where you're going.
I'm probably really good.
I'm elite.
But then what separates me from someone say Novak Djokovic or you know, Rafa, like the greatest of all time.
Like for me, I was partying a lot when I was playing.
Like I would play, then go to the pub.
And I wouldn't, I don't regret it.
Like I love the fact that like my agents or my team had to drag me out of places at like
4 a.m.
Like I love that shit.
But at the same time, like that was what separated me, I guess, from them.
Like they were so diligent, so consistent. Like now I'm a lot better but obviously when I was a
bit younger but the the consistency that they've shown over decades is why I like
they're having way more success than I have. Is some of it nature do you think
do some guys just have a different element like a different gear that God
gave them or do you think that it's like a commitment thing?
Because I'm just curious because tennis is such a solo sport. It's like golf.
It's like, I mean there's no team really. It's just fucking you out there.
Yeah, I mean I played my longest match is four hours and 52 minutes.
Oh my god.
And I was having some serious conversations.
That's like watching Oppenheimer but having to play the whole time.
Yeah, you have some serious conversations. That's like watching Oppenheimer, but having to play the whole time. Yeah, it's, you have some mental, serious,
some serious mental conversations with yourself.
But I mean.
Yeah, I bet, dude.
Jesus.
Like, and then you have like,
you gotta do that again for seven days straight
to win a tournament, basically.
No way.
Is that true?
That's like a grand slam, yeah.
That's like how hard it is mentally, I mean.
But the consistency, like for instance,
my nature, I wasn't willing to give, like for instance, my nature,
I wasn't willing to give up like the fun aspect of things
whilst I was playing.
Where like, if I did that, definitely,
I probably would have had more success,
but I've had so much fun in my career.
Like those are the memories, I'm sure you,
I can't talk about them here,
but like those are the memories you take to the grave.
And then that's like, I wouldn't trade that for Grand Slam.
There's no way.
But that's the trade off. Yeah, you're kind of like John Daly. Have you ever heard of him a little bit? Yeah, I wouldn't trade that for Grand Slam. There's no way. But that's the trade off.
Yeah, you're kind of like John Daly.
Have you ever heard of him a little bit?
Yeah, I've heard of him, yeah.
You're like kind of like that.
Or John Knightley maybe,
because I think he partied during the daytime more
because he would, yeah, he would, that guy's still partying.
I've seen him, I live in Nashville, Tennessee.
I've seen him get a couple of times in ambulances,
his Uber basically.
Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
That's a lot, yeah. Oh, his Uber basically. And he's coming. That's pretty crazy. That's a lot.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I've seen him, the ambulance guy called
and there was some confusion as to where he was
like on the premises.
And he went and got in the shotgun of the ambulance.
He went and got in the passenger seat and just waited.
He's like, what the fuck is taking you guys so long?
Take me to the fucking hospital.
Yeah, just take me to the hospital.
He's sitting in there.
Gee whiz. And they're just running around with like a little, I'm not sure what it's called. What the fuck is taking you guys so long? Yeah, just taking me to the hall. He's sitting in there.
And they're just running around with like a little, uh, I'm not sure what it's called.
Um,
What's some of like,
and I'm not going to just grill you about tennis because I don't know a ton about it.
But I do want to get like some thoughts that I had.
Like, what are some things like,
because football you kind of know what the physical aspect is and like the training.
What is shit that people don't know that like,
like tennis training, like? Well. What is shit that people don't know that like
like tennis training like
Well tennis is a tough one because you don't know when you're gonna play exactly like when the schedule comes out like for instance soccer
or football or
NBA or like you have an exact time when you know where the game is gonna start and the duration of how long the game
Goes for where tennis is you don't know what time you're gonna play where it could be at night
Could be first match at 10 a.m., could be at 7 p.m.,
and then it could go for an hour and a half to five hours.
So it's like, how do you train for something
with so many different intangibles and variables?
That's always been a big challenge for every tennis player.
It's like, you train for something
that you don't even know what's coming,
and there's no teammates, you're out there on your own.
And I think that's why tennis players, for me, what's coming and there's no teammates. You're out there on your own.
And I think that's why tennis players for me, this is one of the toughest sports in the world
because we're going, one week we're in Asia,
one week we're in Europe, in the States for maybe a month,
then Australia, it's like different diet,
different food, different time zones.
And it's like you gotta adapt
and have that adaptability to be good.
And that's tough because most other professional athletes like set in stone preparation, food, sleep.
That's what in tennis is like.
You just have to just go with the flow.
Dude, I always really struggle with it. I think.
Yeah, there's like no routine really. You have to try and find. Yeah, it's hard.
Oh my god.
That's why I've lost my marbles. Definitely.
Yeah. Oh, I can't even imagine.
Yeah, I mean and from Australia as well, It's worse. We have like two tournaments a year
So the rest of it's just traveling around for living out of a hotel. Oh
To live at a yeah, cuz it's hard enough for me like and I guess I'd sound like I'm complaining
I don't it doesn't sound like we're complaining. No, it's it's it's definitely a nice lifestyle
like writing about cultures and meeting new people and traveling to the coolest but it's's not like, Oh, I think a lot of people think when I'm
traveling, I'm like enjoying going sightseeing.
Like I'm working, like, you know, I'm playing, I'm training, I'm going to bed.
Like, it's hard.
It's not easy.
Yeah.
I mean, last night, like I get off stage and I know that I have to do this today.
Right?
I know that I have to edit like a previous episode and look over it, you know, so I'm
up for two till probably at two, I went to sleep and and not complaining. It was cool
But it's not like yeah, you get to get out. It's gonna walk in a park, right? Yeah
And yeah, there's some like Dame that's hitting you up
She wants to hang out but you're like, I know I have to do what I gotta do
It's gonna be you know
Multitasking. Yeah, I'm gonna save this frickin frickin you know I'm gonna save my nuts for curious you know nothing not in a gay way but I'm just
gonna save my energy I'll look after them dude also uh the food is totally
different here like the food is totally different the eggs are different dude
if you get to a country and the eggs are different, that can throw me off for a fucking week.
Wait, do you like the eggs here? Like the cafes are good here. Are you a breakfast guy or a dinner guy?
I'm a breakfast guy.
There's good cafes here. You like coffee?
I like some of it. Sometimes it kind of fucking, I'll get a little bit weird on it, but I got to monitor how much I drink.
So I'm doing green tea right now.
There's a lot of caffeine in that too though.
Yeah, I make sure I get the low caffeine one.
But yeah, I feel you, because some of that shit, yeah.
Australian coffee is good though.
Is it?
Yeah, very good.
I'll give you a list of good cafes you should go to after.
Yeah, all right.
You're leaving on Tuesday, right?
Yeah.
Definitely some good cafes you gotta go to.
I don't know, you probably can't go out in here in public,
can you?
It's not bad.
It's got, this is like, I never realized it really
until this time that this is my biggest audience.
You know, it's like years ago when I came,
my biggest show ever was here,
like just of numbers of people coming.
And then this time it's been like that.
And I'm like, wow, this is really.
Must feel good.
It's crazy.
But I just kind of forget that. Then I get here and I'm like wow this is really must feel good. It's in it's it's crazy But I just kind of forget that then I get here, and I'm like oh wow so many people say hello, and it's nice
We are friendly people. Oh, dude
too friendly people are just
They're so fucking friendly almost one of them to fucking stab you or something you're like you can't handle it
Not much of that like just rob me or something at least you know I'm saying
But you just want to feel at home you want to feel like you're back in the States
You know yeah, I don't know I can't relate to that. I do have a lot of friends in the States
But it's so nice here, dude. Yeah, it's not having just a constant threat of crime or murder. Yeah, yeah big time
It's just so relaxing um
Yeah, I was thinking about that like
I Um, yeah, I was thinking about that like, um, I wasn't thinking about anything really, I guess.
But, um, what else is going on, you think?
I mean, I gotta do another podcast after this.
Nuh-uh.
Yeah.
Do you really?
Yeah.
Your own?
No, not my own.
Just I'm jumping on a mate's one. Oh Oh wow. It can be a lot sometimes, huh?
Yeah, I mean trying to juggle around I gotta somehow find some time to train as well. Gotta keep the missus entertained
Oh, you got a wife. Oh, no, she's not my wife, but she's my partner. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah
She needs attention. She does. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and what do you like to do with their lady? You guys go
Kayaking or what do you like to do with their lady? You guys go kayaking or what do you guys do?
No, look, I'm not like, I'm Australian, but I'm not like a true blue Aussie in the sense like I do like crazy Australian stuff.
Like I'll probably, I'll get dinner tonight with her. I'll try. I don't really want to drink any wine because then if I have one, I'll have two.
Then I'll probably go out. I don't want to do that because I don't feel like shit tomorrow morning.
Yeah.
What about you? What about you? What are you doing tonight?
What will we do?
We got a show and then the show starts an hour early so we might be able to, we might
do something after.
If you, the only reason, if I will go out tonight, if I'm going out with you, then I'll
come.
Wow.
That's the, I'm gonna give that deal to my miss so if the other one wants to go out,
I don't care what else is on the schedule. We're clearing it.
Dear Christ then.
We'll tell the miss to put on her heels then.
Alright, I'm down.
She got no excuse then.
Yeah, dude.
So if your tour starts back up for tennis, how do you jump back into tennis?
Can you just go back in at a certain point or do you have to wait until a season starts?
What's it like?
So basically there's a ranking system.
So by me not playing for the last like a year and a half because of injury, I lost
my ranking, but I have like a protected ranking of like 20.
Okay.
So I can come back at pretty much any point in time when I'm healthy.
And I just slop back in basically.
Is it scary to be like, all right, I'm ready to go.
And that seems fucking big time because for me as a player, like there's obviously a lot of eyes
because I'm very like controversial and stuff.
So every-
Because you're almost black a little, I think.
Yeah, maybe in a very white privileged sport like tennis.
Oh, people see a guy with a,
people see a guy that's been in the sun for a half hour
and they're like, oh, look at this brother
trying to cause trouble.
Yeah, there is a bit of that.
There is a bit of that.
But yeah, so I guess when I'm playing, it's like, oh, he's coming back and there's a lot of pressure on it.
So I need to make sure that when I'm ready to go, then you're ready for all that. Exactly.
Because it's like I can't fly. I don't fly underneath the radar, which would be nice sometimes.
Yeah, it's like, what is he going to do now? Exactly. Yeah.
Yeah. Is he going to chew gum during this match or what? God forbid I do that.
Are you allowed to do that? Yeah, you can do that. Yeah.
I mean, I've done it.
Yeah.
But like, yeah, you're right.
Like I walk differently on the court and people are like.
Look at this deviant.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Gang member.
Yeah, literally.
I should show you some articles after this.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Oh, dude.
Is there any good moments where people yell shit at tennis?
Because it's such a refined.
Like if you want to get a good like, it's probably, it's frowned upon, right?
Cause it feels very organized out there.
Yeah. Wimbledon, like you can't say a thing.
Like it's very, like you can hear the Royal family's there.
Like I was cussing in front of the Royal family, which was funny.
Like it was good.
Gave him, gave him a show, but US opened so loud.
New York's crazy.
Um, but people don't really, I mean,
now people are screaming out a lot.
Like, really?
Yeah, and like, I mean, I told, like,
there was a time at, like, in Cali when I was playing
and Ben Stiller was in the crowd
and one of his friends was like telling me how to play.
And I was like, I was like, bro, are you good at tennis?
Like, why are you speaking?
And then I said to Ben, I was like,
do I tell him how to act?
Like, no, like, I love Ben Stiller hilarious
But people do scream out some pretty crazy shit racial stuff sometimes pretty really. Yeah, and you're not even are you no
No, I'm half Malaysian half Greek. Oh god. Yeah, I am mixed
Yeah, but you'd have to have a damn calculator to get racist against somebody like you
I feel like you got a you know I'm saying you got a really To have a chart or something yeah people are so diverse now
You if you don't really to really be a good racist you have to have yeah
You do your research yeah, you gotta at least be able to do some math almost
I think that's why a lot of racism is disappearing because there's a barrier to entry now
Because people are so mixed you know yeah
What do you think about when you see some of these matches like they just said didn't they just have Jake Paul was
gonna fight uh what do you think about that shit man it's fucking crazy isn't
it it's fucking dumb I think like well what are you expecting what do you think
the outcome is gonna be well I think because I thought that Jake Paul would
have lost by now even fighting these guys at some stage but he keeps winning like I know that they're not like in their prime or whatever
But the whole background was fighting that's your point and he he keeps like somehow pulling it out
Like if he pulls this one out, I don't care how old Mike Tyson gets
I'm not even fighting that guy until it because I did he actually sat down on my show. He's fucking crazy
Really? Yeah, like I felt I'm not fought even if he's seven years old. I'm not I'm not fighting
You what he just felt like he had that danger in him. Yeah. Yeah, exactly
Well, I asked him what would you be if you weren't a boxer said a fucking criminal like stone cold my eyes
I'm like
Okay, nice. So yeah, if he pulls this one out, what do you think?
Well, I think I mean well Jake fought like Nate Robinson, who was like,
Yeah, Nate should never have taken that fight.
Nate should not have.
He's like tarnished his whole basketball career.
Right.
It kind of.
He was a Knicks legend.
And it was just kind of like, oh, can Jake beat a black guy?
That was kind of the ambiance of that when it felt like, and then people were shocked.
But then he fought Woodley.
Which is tough.
Which is tougher, but Woodley has not been the same fighter he's been for years.
And he hasn't been a good punch thrower. What about Diaz? I thought Diaz was gonna get the job done
Yeah, that's a good point and then and then Silva like I thought these guys are like some of the greatest UFC fighters of all
Time like especially Silva right I mean he picked great names, but then now he's kind of gone into boxing
He fought Fury. Yeah, he lost that okay. He lost that one right he lost. Oh, yeah, that's right
He lost to Tommy Fury, and I think's right. He lost to Tommy Fury.
And I think Tyson could be still a little bit better than... I would rather fight Fury than Mark Tyson.
Yeah.
I think.
Well, I don't... I mean, they had that Tyson against Jones Jr. fight a few years ago, is that right?
And it was just them hugging basically. It was basically you paid $50 to watch two brothers hug.
And, uh, which I would would do I believe in you know
You know, I want all my black friends to do well and everything. I believe in the community in the culture, but it's like
Actually, yeah, I would actually pay $50 to watch two brothers hug for an hour
Like that would be a great pay-per-view, but they build it as a boxing match. Yeah
Jones was gassed out early. What was Tyson gassed too?
Yeah, uh, but they hugged so quick after any exchange it was hard to know.
They didn't want to like force it or risk it.
Yeah, it almost seemed like it was like a, um...
Does this hurt Tyson's legacy if he loses it?
I don't think so. I think his shit is so locked in.
Yeah, you think so?
Now he's all, yeah, I think it is.
Is it staged at all?
Now that's the part I don't know.
I don't know if Tyson's gonna agree to say,
hey, you can knock me out.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You know?
And cause some of the weed can't even knock him out.
Like dude, that dude is taking on, let's say this.
Yes, he fought Leon Holmes or whatever,
but he's also fought, you know,
Purple Hooker 4.0 weed. You know what I'm saying or whatever the strains are, you know He gave me a box of it when I was in hell
Did he really?
Gassed out monster or whatever. They keep coming up with different flavors, you know
They got the E's too
Kiwi prison and shit and you're like fuck dude, this shit is fucking hard dude
Detroit for your lungs is a new flavor. I'm like
Detroit for your lungs is a new flavor. I'm like, that's alarming.
So I think if he can beat all of that.
When is it?
When is the fight?
Soon, no?
Well, Jake had a fight the other day.
He fought like a footlocker manager.
Yeah, who what?
Yeah.
A footlocker manager.
He basically fought a guy.
I'm not even joking.
Nobody knew who this guy.
I didn't know who he was yet.
Even the guy's father was tweeting like, I didn't know my son was involved in this. Yeah, it's like yes
Well, there's a good fight right now Joshua and in Ghana is on now. That's a good one
Oh Anthony Joshua and Francis and God that's that's on right now. I think at this moment. Yep. Oh, wow many
Joshua won Anthony Joshua. Wow surprised by that.. I thought Nganu was gonna win that.
There's something so lovable about Nganu,
you watch him do anything.
Yeah, that's true.
He's a big man.
Yeah.
I would watch him eat a piece of birthday cake
for one hour on pay-per-view.
Yeah, he's a pretty good physique, I'm not gonna lie.
And there's just something charming about him, you know?
Like, there's something about some players and athletes like that's one thing
I do love about the UFC is that you can get to know some of the athletes right like you get
because of the press conferences they give them and the interviews at the end of the fights and
stuff you start to get a little bit of an idea of who they are. Who do you like?
I'm a huge Poirier guy.
Oh, yeah.
He's fighting soon too, I saw.
Yeah, yeah. He's fighting tomorrow.
And this will come out next week, so he will have just fought.
But yeah, I love him.
I love, I mean, the Diaz guys.
I love the guys that I don't even like because you just get to know them.
Like they're either the villains or they're you get to see their personalities online
Sugar Sean he's fighting
It's just so entertaining. There are a lot of characters on there. No, I'm thinking about it. Yeah
But I think I think Jake Paul could really bang on him. It looks like I don't want it
I think it I think it hurts Tyson's legacy if he loses
Like that's because no one really talks about who he fought back then.
Now it's just like he did what he did and he achieved it.
Now if he loses, it's gonna be everywhere.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a good point, huh?
Like when do you say, hey, I'm good with where?
I'm sure he doesn't need the money.
And is he in the right mind?
Who's signing that deal for him?
I don't know, I don't know.
I'm just gonna be watching.
You know, he fought, who else did he fight?
He fought damn Lester Douglas,
he fought fucking 50 shades of cannabis.
He's fought everybody, he's fought everything.
He's fought Delta 8, probably when it first came
on the market, that guy fucking.
You're fucked.
No, I'm just saying, that guy, there's nothing.
Yeah, yeah, he's been through a lot.
He told me that he'd been through, I mean, he's obviously, he's been pretty open about
it, but he said that he burnt the wick at both ends.
He used to party crazy and fight.
It's nuts.
Do you feel that ever?
Like, oh, as you get a little bit older, you're like, oh, I can't even do that shit anymore
now.
No, you're still good.
Yeah, we're still good.
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Oh yeah, dude I had some, yeah dude I had,
cause I don't party anymore, so I had one time I relapsed,
I was in, I was in, where was I in, Cleveland?
What were you doing in Cleveland?
I don't know.
It ended up being drugs.
Oh, I know that.
It was supposed to be work.
And it was, but I ended up doing work and drugs.
And then, yeah, the next night I had a show
in Indianapolis and like, oh, it was horrible.
I'd been getting like IVs all day and had to go on stage
and just felt kind of rattled, you know?
That was miserable.
What do you do now to just stay on the straight and narrow?
Not that I just got off of vaping,
so, but I'll have some fucking, what will I do?
I'll have some fucking Pepsi Max,
or I'll fucking slam a couple Coke Zero's and just,
I don't know, squeeze my fucking penis sometimes.
I just, I don't try not to jerk off at night.
Really? Yeah, because I think I have better dreams and like visions and stuff
if I don't. So I'm trying, yeah, I'll just try to just, sometimes instead of
masturbating, I'll just squeeze my wiener as hard as I can. Almost squeezing the
devil back into my body. The fact that you say all of this, like that last two
sentences with a completely straight face. I
Believe you. Thanks, man. Yeah, I believe you. I believe me too, man
I've I've just done it so many times because for me man if I'm
The devil comes out of my wiener. That's where I feel like if I had a really you know
I'm saying if I start thinking about something I will fucking I
Will tie my fucking penis to my foot
and kick somebody's fucking neck open.
That's how I feel.
You're fucking crazy, bro.
But that's how I feel, man, sometimes.
But I think that's drugs also built up in my system,
you know?
Possibly, yeah.
Yeah, and I used to vape.
I'm actually like,
maybe 11 days off of vaping right now.
Yeah, get off the vape.
It's fucking horrible.
It's killing children.
Yeah, no, I don't like vaping.
Oh dude, you see they had a,
that vape shop blew up, you see that bitch?
Finally somebody's infiltrating these places.
Here's right here.
What, did a vape like explode?
Explosion at vaping warehouse, look at this.
In Michigan, of course.
Any vape at any time can kind of fucking do that though. Look at them blasting off like fireworks.
Like is it good that the same things-
Is getting inhaled into people's lungs?
Yeah, shit that's in fireworks.
Would you take a firework over to it?
Look at this.
This looks like Gaza.
Look at this.
This looks like Gaza.
And look, there's some kids running up trying to get free vapes and shit.
That's insane.
They end up blowing and just catching the free ones.
Oh, I'm sure there's some fucked hard,
just four buildings down, just with his head out there.
Just, yeah. Oh oh yeah that's cranberries
I'm glad you're off that yeah thanks man it's so it and yesterday I had a moment
where somebody had one and I looked at it and then I didn't even think about it
and it was the first time that my brain felt like oh thank God I'm not doing
that yeah dude good it's horrible and also you're a fucking adult and you're vaping and people see you and you feel like it just a pedophile looks like it's for children
You know
Yeah, I mean so so you don't drink anything anymore. No alcohol at all. Mm-hmm. All right now because I'll buy drugs
That's why yeah, okay. Did you ever get on your?
If you ever drink much. Yes, really? Yeah, I still drink a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, I don't mind
Yeah, if you're good at it fucking do it. Yeah do it until you can't do it. I'm glad I did that
Solidifies it. I'm never gonna ever touch a vape again. Well, yeah, you saw that imagine if somebody took a bottle rocket up to a
Seventh grader. Yeah, and just lit one end and said hey bubs smoked it
You know, it's like tiny like it seems to be safe
It's got the same chemicals as a fucking fourth of July in it, you know nuts that's just damn alarming but
Yeah, I think I'm sure there's probably people trying to get those vapes now like
Explosion vapes that's the thing. They'll just mark it as like a new thing
It'll be a new marketing tactic like come get these explode
You know that's social media though. Yeah, somehow turn something like that into a positive. Yeah, it's pretty alarming
What else do you see can people you can't vape out on the court anybody ever smoke at halftime during y'all's games
We don't have a time but no not like
Look, I mean I've the closest thing to something
pretty loose on a tennis court if you see someone drinking like a Coca-Cola
like there was back in the old days I think people used to maybe like there
was like a guy who played this actually one of this he played the Williams
sisters because like there was a big thing between like can females and males
like compete at the same level and then some guy ranked like 200 went out there with like
I think it's you can actually find on internet
He was smoking a cigarette and having a beer while he played the Williams sisters and he beat them
But like he was that was probably the last time someone ever smoked a cigarette on court. Wow. It was one verse two
No, he verse Serena. I think Venus first and then Serena after so there is a difference in level between
There's the masculine and feminine play usually.
I mean, I believe so, yeah.
I mean, but-
Well, there's a genetic difference.
There's a-
Yeah.
We have two separate tours, yeah, big time.
There's a scientific difference.
There's also probably a difference
in where your body can even move.
I don't know what they are,
but because I think women have a different
caussics or like a, I don't know what it's called hips or
whatever you know I don't know I don't know man yeah but yeah we we play for we play like
Grand Slam's we play best of five which can go for like five hours and if you play against a woman
or people like do there's mixed doubles there's mixed doubles oh there is like I played I played
with Venus you did like someone else yeah wow mixed doubles is fun I think mixed doubles. Oh, there is. Like I played with Venus. You did? Against like someone else, yeah. Wow.
Mixed doubles was fun.
I think mixed doubles is actually,
should be played more because it's entertaining, right?
Like it's more fun seeing both sexes on the court
at the same time, in my opinion.
For the fans, like me,
I never thought I'd play with Venus Williams.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, wow.
I went to Wimbledon one time.
Did you?
Yeah, I was doing a comedy tour over there in England and we went to to Wimbledon one time. Did you? Yeah, I was doing a comedy tour over there in England
and we went to damn Wimbledon.
I remember walking up and being like.
I don't fit in here at all.
Well, I didn't know what we should do.
I felt like you had to like,
at least be able to play an instrument
or something to get in, you know, I just felt.
Like just, yeah, just tick it, that's it.
Yeah, I was like, damn, I don't know the violin
or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
It just seemed very, you know,
and I remember saluting people at the game or whatever.
And the guy was like, fuck you doing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now Wimbledon, it's very proper.
Yeah.
That place hasn't changed in a hundred years.
Does your sport feel too proper ever?
For me, I mean, well, I just, I grew up loving basketball.
Like I love NBA, watch it religiously.
And when I played tennis, I always felt like I was a bit of an out, like a misfit, right? I didn up loving basketball. Like I love NBA, watch it religiously.
And when I played tennis,
I always felt like I was a bit of an out,
like a misfit, right?
I didn't fit in well.
So then when I was walking to places like Wimbledon,
I was like, this place is, it's crazy.
Like it's so against what I like.
I was watching, I love watching basketball,
entertainment, American sport for me in general,
is like where I fit in.
I feel very at home in the States.
Oh wow.
So yeah, yeah, it's for me.
It's like being at the library, I feel like.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
And I don't like, like my personality and the way I am is like not close to how like
the traditional sport of tennis is.
Yeah.
Like, do you know what I mean?
I'm not playing club at all.
So it's like I've just been in an environment my whole life that I've kind of wanted to
break out of.
But that's the only thing I'm really fucking good at.
But that's the only thing you're good at?
Well, I'm good at other things,
but that's where we all have our-
Right, your thing you do.
Exactly.
Oh yeah, I look at a musician.
I went and watched a musician play that night.
I'm like, God, we went and saw Fred again.
Have you seen this guy DJ?
No.
Yeah, he's Fred again.
And he was always Fred, I think, but he still is, right?
And we saw him and he was always Fred I think but he still is right. Yep, and we saw him and it was great and
And uh
Yeah, I was like god. That's so awesome. Why didn't I try to do that?
You know and then you have the instruments and the lights and it's a fucking party
You know get out every night that would be tough. No, don't you think?
Yeah to try and you got a match everyone's energy all night.
How'd you get into this?
Has anyone ever asked you that?
In a podcasting?
Yeah, just like you.
Like how did it all happen for you?
Well.
Because I feel like there was a time
where Theovon didn't exist in my life,
and then now it's all I see is you.
Yeah.
So what was the journey like?
Oh, that's interesting, man.
Well, I done comedy for a long time right people forget sometimes I think I don't they forget they just don't know
They don't know when you go on stage. You've been going on stage for 18 years
Yeah, even if they only known you about you for four years for comedy is a tough gig, by the way, you know
I think it's probably similar in some of the sense
I mean you guys I couldn't imagine having to do a four-hour set
But at least you get to hit it to the other person and let them deal with it for a minute.
Yeah, for a second, yeah.
Yeah, just for a second.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A mother, okay.
Yeah, that's true. You really don't get much of a break.
Yeah.
You're like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then when I think social media really got crazy, you know, like,
everything was going good with podcasting,
that really helped.
Cause we felt caged up by like the entertainment industry.
You know, it's the same people making the same choices.
It's a very secular group, you know, over there.
And it's like, and if you, they don't kind of pick you
to be a person or something they see
or they don't like some of your vision,
then they don't push you forward.
But if you tell me that,
I'm gonna fucking find a way forward.
That's the only thing I've ever known is,
I never wanna do shit your way anyway.
So I don't even know what the fuck I was doing here
pretending I was.
That's the saddest part sometimes for me.
But, you know, I don't say say that like, I don't know.
I say that I think some of that's in hindsight at the time.
Yeah, you, you want to go with, you want to try the,
the path that's there.
I, yeah, I was going on podcasts and then I walked out
of Joe Rogan's podcast one day and I was like, I just want
to just have my own thing. Yep. just want to just have my own thing.
Yep.
I just want to have my own thing.
And thank God that, you know,
there was people like Mark Marin and Rogan.
There was a fighter in the kid,
which was an early podcast with Brennan Schaub
and Brian Callan.
Like there was just these things, Pete Holmes.
There was a lot of podcasts and it was like a thing.
And I just started in my kitchen and then social media.
Like other people made clips
and that like got things like to a different place.
Like when people started taking stuff and making it.
And then just putting it out there, yeah.
Yeah, cause then you're-
You're spreading.
Yeah, you're spreading it, but you're not doing the spreading.
Yeah.
So, but it's kind of alarming too,
because then you can't control the spread.
That's true.
That's what I was gonna ask you,
because I feel like today's day and age
with what you say and stuff,
but I feel like you don't filter anything,
but you're still saying what you wanna say.
Like a lot of people don't,
I know that I can't say things.
Like sitting with you right now,
I know that I could be as honest as anything,
but if I said something slightly controversial,
it would affect my career
Drastically if you text it I'll yell it out
See that's what I'm saying. That's what I I'm kind of jealous in that way because like oh, yeah
I'm from Australia right and I'm already against the April like the media is always against me to create this reputation
They're like I'm a bad guy. Whatever. Yeah, what'd you even do? You just wore high socks
But it's like I kind of envy the fact that you can be so honest.
Oh, I see. Well, I think if you're already kind of leaning into some of this world with your own voice,
because that's really what you're doing, I think, with podcasting.
I think some people, we don't even realize it maybe,
is that you're just trying to have your own voice, right?
That's a part of it in our psyche, I think.
And I don't say that from like a preachy point.
I say it, I think, from a realization point, even for me just now.
It's like, oh, I just want to have my own voice.
So I think if you want to have that, then it'll probably be something that you have
down the line.
Yep.
You know, if you're having seeds of it come into your own existence now.
Yeah.
I feel like people are embracing it a little bit more, but still I would like to be a bit
more honest. Yeah. One day you'll get more, but still I would like to be a bit more honest
about some things.
One day you'll get to, man.
I hope so.
Yeah, because I guess it does feel caged up.
Well, I think if you work within a network,
you know, we had this guy, Trevor Bauer, on recently,
and he's a pitcher, and he got maligned in the States
for some sexual allegations, right?
And then he played in Japan and it came to be
there was never any prosecution or anything.
And one of the people pressing charges,
or the main person pressing charges,
it wasn't any validity there, it was dishonest.
But he never really has gotten back on his feet for-
Yeah, but the damage is probably done because-
Right, the damage was done.
But also I think he had been somebody
who kind of wanted to have their own voice in his sport.
Like he had started, he has a YouTube platform
and he would comment about things he didn't love
about the sport as well.
So I think that kind of, once you're within a bigger group
you kind of have to work with the rules of the group, you know?
So who does your stuff like all, so you do like your show, this podcast, and then you
go to your show tonight, like who do you answer to or do you just run on your own schedule?
Yeah, we just run on our own schedule. But yeah, but, but I don't play professional sport
if I also was playing within a, and then, you know, you probably, if you say something,
then it comes the tennis, what's the overall tennis thing called?
Major league tennis?
It's just called ATP.
Like the, yeah, that's all it is.
ATP.
They would be like, what's going on?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it probably cages you up some.
You definitely got to come when I'm coming back, you got to come and watch.
Dude, that would be sick.
Epic, bro.
Yeah.
Cause the only one we could get into at Wimbledon, I think it was Wimbledon.
It could have been a fucking high school match, but we,imbledon, I think it was Wimbledon, it could have been a fucking high school match, but
we...
It... somebody said it was Wimbledon.
Did you even remember who played?
It could have been the Kentucky Derby actually.
What?
When was it? When is Wimbledon?
Oh, July? I gotta look back and see. I gotta ask my friend.
The fact that you don't even remember, that disappoints me.
Yeah.
Because my job is when people like, no, not tennis fans, they come and watch, they actually
remember who the fuck's playing.
Oh, wow.
That's what I've been criticized for doing.
They're like, oh, he's not even playing tennis the traditional way.
I'm like, Theo Von came to Wimbledon and doesn't even know he played.
That should be like a message to the HDP right now.
Like, we're doing a terrible job.
Yeah.
Do they do, is it this or that they have a tough time?
Like I guess there's fear of like, if they start to individualize people too much over the sport, then it gives a lot more power to the players themselves.
I don't know. I wonder what that's like.
Yeah, like I mean, everyone knows who the players are who bring fans and why ticket sales get sold and all that type of stuff.
Like everyone knows that.
Yeah.
And the AGP likes to hide the fact that they think it's a lot of an equal thing, but it's not.
Like the fact that there's a tennis player sitting
in your podcast right now, like that's pretty cool.
Yeah, I think it's cool, man.
This is the first real tennis player I've ever talked to,
except for my friend's dad, who ended up,
he was kind of an alcoholic to be honest with you,
but he cheated on their mom,
but he played tennis a lot in the mornings, I remember.
And he would, I would catch him at nights
when I was looking at porno on the computer,
but he was a good, pretty good tennis player.
I think he was like a three five or a four oh.
Did you?
Is that good?
What is that?
Three five and a four oh?
I don't know, they might've made it up. I don't-0? I don't know. He's they might have made it up
I don't know what was going on. Have you played before? I gotta text my buddy. Uh
Yeah, yeah, I've played man. Tennis is pretty big in the States
Like obviously not as big as your main sports, but there's a lot of a lot of tennis fans out there
When we were children, we had to play at school. Yeah, and it was you would see wow
Some people are very unathletic.
And they-
Yeah. That's like my thing with tennis. You get like the best athletes in the world. You
put a tennis racket in their hand, they become uncoordinated.
Really? Have you seen it happen?
Yep. A lot of times, a lot of times I've seen some basketball players try and play. Some
of our athletes in Australia try and play tennis. I think because it's non-contact, it's
easy.
Oh, yeah. It's such a finesse game, huh?
It's finesse, very technical, yeah.
Yeah.
What do you, like, and if you have a bathroom break,
how long is that?
Well, the rules, that's where it gets gray,
because you can, like, if you need to take a number two,
like take a shit, you can just be like,
I need to go straight away, and then like,
like the umpire, it's all on the umpire's discretion.
No way.
So you have like a shit Colonel or whatever?
And you just-
Yeah, well like the umpire.
Like an Admiral or whatever?
Yeah, like an Admiral.
Yeah, like umpire.
But like, yeah, if I need to go to the bathroom,
I can go change of ends, but it's like for like 90 seconds.
No.
But then like, if I need to take like,
then how do they know I could get sick?
Like I could be sick or whatever.
I hate having to pee real fast
because it burns a little too.
I don't know if that's healthy, brother.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
It might be a personal thing.
It might be a healthy thing.
Oh God, dude, I shouldn't have fucking said that.
It doesn't burn all the time.
But if you have to hurry and pee,
like sometimes if somebody's like hurry up
and you're like fuck.
You get stage fright.
Yeah, oh yeah, you just have to pee so fast, yeah.
If you get stage fright in front of yourself, then you're just a fucking weirdo
I think I don't get that. Yeah, I get that dude
But yeah, so you have to how do you do you do you give a guy a little bit of a signal that you have to
Go to the loo or what? You just tell you if I ask him you just like I'll go to the bathroom your honor
Can I shit yeah basically you can't just like get subbed off and go to the bar
Yeah, you have to like can I go to the bathroom or whatever? Oh my god So it's very much like the old days in the king. Yeah. Yeah, like the that. You can't just like get subbed off and go to the bathroom. Yeah, you have to be like, can I go to the bathroom or whatever.
Oh my God.
So it's very much like the old days in the king.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the game in my, it's a bit old school.
Like it's not gonna be,
if you look where sports going now and how entertaining
it is like, especially with all these misfit boxing matches,
like all this type of stuff, like tennis,
it's got some work to do.
It would be cool if at certain points,
like the net lit up or something, and there was like a spice round or something.
There you go.
You know?
Yeah, but they like the way it is, but it needs to change.
How can it change though?
That's what's interesting too is some sports you wonder if they just.
If it like hit the ceiling almost.
Yeah, like in a way.
I mean, obviously competition will always
Yep, I want people to be there. Hmm, but you wonder yeah, I never thought about that. Do some sports start to um
Have they just had their time and existence like bocce ball. What is that? Yeah, what is it? Great question?
I don't know, but I know at one point it was one of the top 11 sports in the whole world
When was bocce ball big, brother?
You pull that up.
Tennis, I guess, it's just because I think they're afraid
to lose the lifelong fans that they've had.
You know what I mean?
Yes, and you do need those because-
You do, but then you also, how does a sport survive?
You have to, like I'm not a big,
I wasn't a big UFC guy at all, and now I like watching it.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
Like if they just stayed true to their fighting fans,
like I think they've done an amazing job marketing
at press conferences.
Tennis has none of that.
Like tennis, we don't even have,
like if we had a press conference before the match,
that would be good.
But now we only have post, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, it could use something.
Yeah, how do you spice it up?
But it's kind of, it definitely is challenging
because it's like with any brand,
it's like, how do you cater to, you know,
like we have some young audience members.
I'll be like around, you know, kids.
Kids.
Yeah.
And they're like, what the fuck?
All people say that in front of their parents
and their parents are like, you can't say what the fuck.
Yeah.
I'm like, I can say it to him.
And I'm like, I don't know this kid.
If you strip it back, like you just,
you're teaching people to just be yourself
and be comfortable in your own skin.
And you know, I think you, at the end of the day,
it's not, this is a swear word.
Who fucking cares?
Yeah, yeah, I think the alarming part
is when they say it in front of the parent
and then they're like, yeah, this guy says it.
And I'm like, and then, because it was in front of the parent and then they're like, yeah, this guy says it and I'm like
And then because it was this moment like me and the kid know each other and it's like and the parents looking like
Like I don't know this fucking kid and they'll say it again Yeah, just so the parent knows that I do use the word but yeah, but yeah, it's like but yeah
There's with everything on the internet though. I don't think watching you swear is that bad compared to some of the shit that's on there now
Yeah, that's a good point like it's very less of the two evils. That's for sure. Yeah
What did it say when was basketball one of the biggest how do you play is it like long balls? Yes, it's long balls
That's a lot of pretty that's still pretty it's not small now. No. No, I agree. It's actually hard by the way
I played recently really it's a lot harder than I, no, I agree. It's actually hard by the way. I played recently.
Really?
Yeah, it's a lot harder than I thought it was gonna be.
When we go to the beach, someone brings it usually.
The sport is very popular on the eastern side
of the Adriatic, especially in Croatia, Serbia,
Montenegro, Bosnia, Montenegro, I'll say that,
Slovenia, yeah, because people are always gonna
wanna compete.
But yeah, I wonder what you could do to tennis
to make it spice up.
I think if they're, you can't put like cheerleaders,
that would be, that's too much.
Is it?
What about this?
If they had a chick in a box on the sideline
and every now and then she'd just smile at a play.
That would be kind of hot.
Wait, what'd you say?
Say a chick in a box?
Yeah, if you had like a dame
or what I don't know what you guys call them over here,
but a female of chest with breasts or of chest.
I don't know if you say it,
but if you had a female of chest
and she was in like a little bit of a cage,
maybe I don't want to say it.
And then like what, and a good shot happened.
A good shot happened every now and then
she would just smile or wink, you know?
Just something casual and subtle, so it's respectful,
but still just gets a bit more.
Off chest.
Yeah.
Just gets a bit more of like a,
oh, look at Olivia, she enjoyed it.
You definitely function on a different spectrum, man.
I love it.
But you know what I'm saying?
Oh, look, Chloe enjoyed that.
Like if this is one extra little thing to give it
Some like if we get you in more interested then it'll help
Yeah, if you got to listen to see if Chloe was interested if she just kept reading her book, you know
Yeah, in the little box in the cage or whatever not people know what I'm talking about
What else is going on?
Mmm What else is going on? Bochiball.
Yeah, bochiball.
10 facts about bochiball,
the world's third most popular sport.
You're lying.
No, because you've got to think about all of the elderly,
like slow impact, and play with their friends.
Bochiball is the third most popular sport in the world
after soccer and golf.
Wow.
Oh, there's a lot of like senior beef.
Yeah, definitely.
A lot of people playing for heart pills out there.
Imagine that, where you put your script on the line against Mr. Gordon.
Wow. George Washington built a bocce court at Mount Vernon in the 1780s. So that must have been big then, man.
If in the 17, if in the president build a bocce court.
That would have been the thing.
Yeah, it must have been the thing, man.
Notable bocce players have included the Roman emperor.
So back then, the ancient Greek physician Hippocrates, go the other way, bro. And Galileo, damn baby. They had that fucking space baby playing.
That's insane.
25 million people in the U S alone play bocce.
Bro, I think this was written by somebody that plays bocce.
I've only seen it with some senior citizens, you know, and there's a lot of like Pete. Yeah
Regulation Bazzi courts are 91 feet long by 13 feet long and variations are acceptable if foul lines
Mid-court lines and inbound markers are designated
Huh
Do you are what do you guys think of with paddle ball coming on? Is that a fucking like alarm?
Is that does that feel alarming you guys with paddle ball coming on or it's whatever?
Well, pickleball is huge too.
Pickleball, that's what I mean.
That's going crazy.
Yeah.
I'm a part owner in one of the teams.
Oh you are?
Yeah, in Miami.
Now is that a bad look?
Well, I don't think so. I mean like I love, I love just people people sport in general for me like getting people active and stuff is good
Yes, true. Yeah, it's not a bad look. Yeah, it's not mean like look I think
Tennis will always be tennis like it's a very different like tennis is way harder, but there's been a couple
People that like one of my friends one of my best friends played professional tennis and now he's like he plays professional pickleball
Really? Yeah, and it's like it's good like my is like, he's the same team owner as me as well
in Miami. So it's cool.
Like a lot of big guys are getting involved in it.
It's pretty good.
Huh.
Yeah.
And now Woody, as a part owner,
do you have responsibilities in the team or what do you?
Well, we have team meetings every now and then.
Like I don't not, I don't do much for them apart from,
you know, be a part of their, like, I guess marketing
and all that type of stuff.
But we do have team meetings and one time I wasn't really happy with my team.
And I told him to get a new team so we could start winning.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. Like, it's, I reckon you'd be good at this, to be honest.
I played it two times.
Oh, you played it?
Yeah, but one time, we didn't bring any sunscreen.
So you got burnt?
I got...
Yeah, I don't know what happened to me, but I've definitely...
I left part of me out there on the field, baby.
It's fun. It's growing too. It's huge in the States.
It's growing and it's also...
There's a big gay contingency in the States that's playing as well.
Can you look that up? Gay pickleball?
Gay pickleball. It's huge in the States it's playing as well. Can you look that up? Gay pickleball?
It's huge in the States.
What like, like just gay pickleball?
Well yeah, because I think it's just the attire and the kind of pitter patter close to the,
you know, the bat. It's like pickleball is personally and financially welcoming for gay players.
Told you.
There's no way you're gonna get four people
that close together in little shorts.
You are gay.
Batting something around and then gay dudes
aren't gonna get excited.
Bro, gay people can play whatever they want.
And they're doing it right here.
It says, bring up a gay pickleball player
See is the top you're telling me this click on that image go back one one, please brother
Look on this image right here. You're telling me, huh? That's a girl. Yeah, but you can barely tell it is dude
You're telling me every gay male in America doesn't see this and be like
Get me an uber over there right now
in America doesn't see this and be like get me an uber over there right now. This is everything they want man. It's competitive, it's outdoorsy. Yeah there he
is right here. There's a player right here. Out player Zach Taylor. Zoom in on him.
Can we get a better picture of him? Come on. This is definitely, this is the... Oh my gosh.
This is the, um, this is everything.
This is everything.
You want to zoom in on his shorts or what?
Well just get a, I'm just seeing, or just look up a better picture of him.
This guy's over here, this pervert.
I can zoom in on the guy.
Sorry, I know I told you to, but still, just because somebody tells you to be a pervert doesn't mean you should, you know? But no, I'm joking, man, you're a great guy and I think we are...
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I'm here on the first episode of Just Curious here.
Just Curious.
What else can we talk about?
Was there anything else in there?
What are you doing off this?
Chilling for a bit?
Lunch?
What I'm gonna do. Relax, Charlie. Go have a sleep.
Might go get a nap at some point.
I might hit an AA meeting. I go to AA meetings
because I'm mentally
unwell.
And then, yeah,
hang out with my boys. Maybe hit
the pool for a bit. Yep.
Hit the show tonight. What time you stop?
I go on at 7 40.
Show starts at 7.
Over at the ICC we got a couple shows.
Last night was amazing.
That place is amazing. You been there?
Yep. Wow.
Yeah, I mean, you said it. They love you here bro.
It's just amazing over there.
And yeah, the people, they don't cheer as much at the end though, which is interesting.
Really?
Yeah, they kind of, alright, we had a nice time.
And it's all, it's kind of fair, I kind of like it.
It's like, yeah, we both came, we did our service.
Yeah, but I want them to go crazy for you.
They definitely are excited, you know.
Some lady last night left me a love note on the stage.
Can you read it?
Let me see if I have it on me.
Oh my God.
Fuck, I don't have it. Oh, was it like a, like a love? It was a poem and it was
from a woman of Slavic. She said she was Slavic. So I think it's you, you have
Slavio. And she said, um, she had a poem and then she's, and it said, call me at
the bottom. No contact information. So just... Yeah.
Okay, cool. Awesome. Thanks.
So, pretty good poem. Pretty good poem, though.
Are people allowed to throw messages to you guys? Do you guys get like a...
At the end of the match, if you win, you can go sign like,
to the fans, like hundreds of fans. And sometimes, yeah, like, definitely.
Someone will try to holler at you, a woman will try to holler at you. Yeah for sure.
I mean it's happened yeah.
Well for sure.
I feel like that's like a normal thing
sometimes in sport though.
Like people shoot their shot at their athletes.
Yeah that's a good point huh.
And has anybody ever tried to like write their number
on a ball or something and just thrown it out
on the court or anything?
Oh not like, cause it's hard to do it on the ball
but yeah like that, like love notes,
pieces of paper, all that type of stuff, yeah.
People get pretty creative these days.
I mean, with social media though,
It's pretty easy.
It's pretty easy.
Yeah, but I'll message a girl back,
even if it's a girl that I'm interested in, you know,
like I'll be like, oh, maybe,
cause I don't have a wife yet, you know?
So I think like, and I travel a lot,
so it's hard to like build something. I agree. You know? And so sometimes I think like and I travel a lot so it's hard to like build something
I agree, you know, and so sometimes I'm like I would like to meet somebody in the but then I'll find like
the other day a girl messaged me right and
It was just kind of a nice little message. So it's I wrote her back then she takes our message and puts it on her
Story, that's fucked up. And so then I'm like, well now
Like that's fucked up. And so then I'm like, well now, like that's just happened all the time.
Complaining about.
Yeah.
But it just like was like, no, but fuck now it's like, I, but then now you feel
like you feel like such a fucking, I didn't say anything messed up.
Yeah.
You were just being nice.
And just like, you feel like a creep and now you can, and then it makes you
were like, oh, I'm never messaging anybody.
You got your walls up.
No, I know that.
I mean, I w I've had plenty of times where shit like that's happened.
And it's like, I feel like, yeah, it's fucked, man.
I feel sorry for you in that standpoint.
It would be like 10 times worse for you in my life.
But that shit's cool.
Oh, I don't know.
I think for, but with that, at least I just don't have a company to report to.
What if you, you know, you have at least like, they could say something, you know?
Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, I mean still,
today's day and age where you just message a girl back
and then what she posted online for what?
For a bit of clout.
I know, it just is weird.
Because then you're like,
oh, we can't even get to know each other,
but I don't know, I guess it just, it is what it is, man.
I don't want to sound like one of these fucking guys
that's complaining about some girl messaging you.
I know, but like that's why I think if you look at like
the rate of relationships failing and stuff,
it's because of all that type of stuff.
Oh, it's horrible.
Like it's-
Oh, it's real scary, man.
Yeah, it's just scary.
There didn't used to be as so many things you would see
that would tempt you because temptation,
you can't really, you can only fight it so much. Like it's built into you. temptation, you can only fight it so much.
Like it's built into you.
Like to be attracted to something else is built into you.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree.
But it used to be like in the old days,
like if you would just go to the grocery market
or something, you would see a woman across the thing
and you would just, you know.
I guess now it's a bit more accessible and attainable.
But yeah, I mean like that, that makes me angry.
What you just told me like what they should post.
It made me kind of angry too.
Cause it didn't make me like,
oh, can I now never gonna message anybody.
Then my brain starts going,
well now you're never gonna fucking meet anyone.
You fucking quick, you know, or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, you just gotta be be it'll happen organically yeah
yeah that's what they keep saying right here yeah oh what happened here um ex-inmate who complained
he spent too long in jail on joe rogan's podcast arrested after police find body parts in freezer
this guy something johnson was it was wait wait sorry so so wait so he went to prison
he went to prison an ex-convict who claimed to have turned his life around after Joe Rogan's podcast has been arrested and charged with murder.
Sheldon Johnson, 48, had been on the Joe Rogan experience and discussed his justice reform advocacy in an episode that aired just last month.
Johnson had previously spent over two decades behind bars after sentenced for attempted murder and robbery.
So he spent two decades.
And then he got out and then he went on the podcast and they just found this recently.
Yes.
And then he just now killed somebody and then just chuck it, stuck it in the freezer.
And I think, yeah, at least he put them in the free.
I knew, I knew something like that.
I'm just, what do you do?
Like, what are you talking about?
That is not at least why is at least at the front of that right? Yeah, I guess you're right.
We mean at least that there's some level of decency. I feel like if you just
Kill someone and leave them out to spoil or whatever. That's fucking horrible
You don't think so I
Just think that person just needs to get put away again.
Well, yes, I think we can both agree with that, Nicholas, but I'm just saying that I believe...
But what happens if you put in the freezer because he wanted to do something to it afterwards?
Like that's like sick in the head.
Well, that's very sick, yes.
But I think if it's just a level of like, oh, gosh, at least let me do my best by them now.
By, yeah, I guess, you're right, I mean, yeah.
But did he put the whole body in?
What did he do?
Let's see what he did, at least, before we make a judgment.
This is on, you should search up, so some guy,
you know how this is on you kind of saying,
like Australia's being a safe place and whatever.
So about six months ago, someone came to my house with a gun. He searched it up on the internet if you want a gun
Yeah, and he robbed my rob my like he had my mama gunpoint stole my car. No, I had a Tesla
It was a green Tesla. Anyway, stole it and the article came out yesterday. So he pled guilty yesterday
So if you see there, it's right there and then they found out yesterday that he killed someone 20 years ago.
No.
Yeah, fucking crazy.
So this was, that was my car, I don't have it anymore.
Like he came to my house, stole it with a gun,
and then he pled guilty, but then like later,
in the article it says like,
that he killed someone 20 years ago.
A 33 year old Canberra man has pleaded guilty
in the act of Supreme Court to rob Ruth
an offensive weapon over the theft of tennis
player Nick Kirios's
Tesla in May last year the man pointed the gun at Miss Kirios's mother
It was pretty scary day man. Oh my god, and you weren't there. I was in the house. Yeah, I was in bed
It was Monday morning 7 45. I ran I ran to the door. My mom was screaming and then she was just like saying
He's got a gun. He's got a gun
I was just like it's called the police like I saw was screaming and then she was just like saying, he's got a gun, he's got a gun. I was just like, it's called the police.
Like I saw him outside and I was like, holy shit.
And your mother came inside then.
Yeah.
So she told her to come out and start the car.
She's like, I don't know how to do it.
And then she just ran back in, locked the door.
Oh, it's fucking heavy, man.
Yeah.
My girlfriend was there too.
Dude, that must've been so scary.
Yeah.
It's your freaking mother.
Yeah, bro.
It was crazy.
And then they only found out yesterday that there was the same guy that the man over someone like 20 years ago
The 33 year old was denied bail
Over the incident and has been in custody since at one point the men's lawyer tried to have the case thrown out saying the police
Had taken too long. Yeah
To hand over their brief of evidence
But on Friday, he pleaded guilty to robbery
with an offensive weapon.
Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
Anyway, that was just on the,
that was just on the kind of, there you go.
See, look here.
Wow, the man responsible for the death
of the same man who hit and killed
21 year old Canberra woman Clea Rose in 2005.
Miss Rose died three weeks after they hit and run.
The man who was 14 at the time,
oh, pleaded guilty to culpable driving,
causing death and was sentenced to 18 months in a youth detention center.
Wow.
So he is, he is not changed.
Well, he has a lot of issues with automobiles, huh?
Yeah.
As well.
I mean, that's crazy.
Yeah.
I wonder what makes him want to do that.
Yeah.
It was just crazy.
Like just on the whole thing that just came out yesterday, it's crazy.
That was, that day was. So yesterday you just found just came out yesterday, it's crazy. That day was-
So yesterday you just found all that out.
Well, we knew that the trial-
They also did the murder.
Yeah, that came out yesterday.
Like we knew that he was going to court and stuff, but-
How did they convict him?
How did they know?
I don't know.
I guess they just, after more, that's what I said.
I was like, how did it take like almost seven months
to find out that it's the same guy?
But it was like, anyway it take like almost seven months to find out that it's the same guy but it was like anyway
That was a scary morning. Then it was just on the topic that you know, Australia's a nice
Amen, the stuff's coming. It's it's everywhere now. Is it really getting worse you think in here in Australia? Yeah big time like
I'm from Canberra. It's not like a great neighborhood
But it's not like to someone to come on Monday morning at 745 to your doorstep
Yeah, and then just put 7 45 to your doorstep.
Yeah. And then just point a gun at your mom's. Oh it sounds very American. Sadly you know. Yeah it was.
I say that sadly man. It's fucking it's so sad there's a part of me that does not want to go back
and feel at risk all the time. Yeah. Feel like you always have to protect yourself. Yeah I definitely
feel like I mean, that was my,
my parents have lived there for like 40 years.
So it was a bit, it's a bit scary for me.
And there was another, some guy actually came robbed out
in another car the other day as well.
It's getting crazy.
Scary.
And guns, but that, how'd that guy even get a gun?
You can get, yeah, people can get guns.
Really?
Yeah, man.
I like that, yeah.
Cause you always think of like, they wouldn have it, yeah, cause you always hear that
there's no guns like, cause you always think about grand theft Australia or whatever and
people are just trying to convince each other to like get out of the car or whatever.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Like there was a time where someone having a gun in Australia was like, but now it's
like dude that, it happened like six months ago.
It's wild.
Scary. I know and I just wish that people use swords and shit still that'd be pretty hectic so much more fair though
Yeah, I mean look. Yeah, it's a yeah. It's a bit more fair. Yeah. Yeah, you have a sword on you
No, I don't have a sword on me, bro. I'm not a fighter man
Okay, look, I ain't looking I'll tell you that
I'm not a fighter man. Look, I ain't looking, I'll tell you that.
Do you think because you're really locked in,
you guys have a back, you have a backhand, right?
Backhand, forehand, yeah.
And so do you think when you look at this slap fight,
Dude, what the?
You think this is something you could get into?
Dude, this shit's crazy.
This stuff is, this is entertaining, man.
I don't mind this, oh my God,
tattoo's not gonna save you at that. Yeah, that guy thought, man. I don't mind this at all. My God, tattoo is not going to save you at that.
Yeah. That guy thought, and that's blackface also too.
Can we just say that like, Oh, that guy's nothing.
That's flirting.
Are you just no bro?
Oh, that's backseat.
Oh, damn.
No, this sports crazy.
Like this sport is like,
Wow.
This sports nuts.
Whoa, that guy started in the past so much
momentum oh this guy shaking
I mean it's pretty crazy but do you think you could do this because you
built it's built into your body yeah maybe but I don't know how good I would be
at taking the hit though.
Like a tennis player, you know, we kind of like hit
and maneuver like very calculated for our next move.
Where here it's like, you want to throw one,
you have to stay put.
No, I'm not doing that bro, sorry.
And also you're tall.
So if people like feel like we're aiming up,
it would just be all, they would really be able to,
I don't know.
I don't know the angles and how it affects what what's best you know this different
like yeah you got to go sometime and if you're in the States dude I'll take you
if there's yeah I'll go watch I like Wolverine I like that guy yeah bring him
up he's dope Wolverine and topin I think his name is t-u-p-p-i-n he's awesome to
watch you got to watch him verse top and I think t-u-p-p-I-N. He's awesome to watch. You gotta watch him versus Toppin, I think.
T-U-P-P-I-N.
I watched it the other day.
I might have been, I went to one,
I'm going to one in a couple weeks.
So crowds are big there, huh?
Yeah, oh, it's not as big.
It's pretty small.
Intimate? It's intimate.
Here is, this is what, this is, this is,
this guy's nuts.
Wolverine versus Turpin.
Yeah.
Light heavyweight match.
Oh no, the one I didn't see wasn't for the title.
This dude, Turpin's face.
Yeah, these guys are nuts.
He knocked that guy's a cap of cig. I think he knocked him out.
Sometimes I think a slap like that would hurt more than a punch.
Oh, you're right. Sometimes I think a slap like that would hurt more than a punch. Oh
You're right. Honestly, sometimes I do think that like this guy just watches ready bang bang. Oh, here we go
Dude he's always look he's singing the national anthem. He's definitely fired up right there.
And Beckham might not even have a chin.
He's definitely hiding whatever.
He may have a unique chin under there.
It's very hard to hit somebody like that.
And I wonder if you can get down low.
No, because that's called clubbing, I think.
If you get down low and try and club,
I think it has to be a legal slap.
Because the thing about legal slaps, how you throw it, and then if someone flinches,
they get to slap again.
Heaps of all these rules, yeah, it's crazy.
What if someone just screams like a little girl?
That's what I would worry about.
That's what happens.
I would do it, I don't care.
Oh, I would do that first.
So at least if you get hit after,
it would be like, I'd be like,
ah, and then just get fucking drilled.
Can you bring up what are the rules of Power Slap?
Is a great question.
Yeah, Power Slap is nuts.
Yeah, I went one time and like there was
Cowboy Saroni was there, Sean Strickland.
It's definitely a lot of like influencer entertainers.
A lot of Dana White's friends are there.
It's very much like a friendly thing.
Who strikes first in power slap?
A coin toss or seating method will determine
who gets to elect the slap or defend first.
The clock, you have 30 seconds to slap,
30 seconds to recover, repeat.
Wow, bro, that is a short amount of time.
30 seconds, yeah, that's quick.
Weight classes are consistent with MMA,
so there is a weight class, I didn't realize that.
Rounds, the number of rounds depends on the format,
with the minimum being three.
In each round, both competitors have the opportunity
to deliver a single strike to their opponent's face
and the obligation to receive
their opponent's strike in return.
Method of victory, KO, TKO, and points.
Like boxing and MMA, power slap judging
is based on a 10 point must system
with a round winner scoring 10 points
and the opponent scoring nine or fewer.
Wow.
So Dana White owns this as well, right?
Yes.
It's pretty crazy.
It's unbelievable, yeah.
And this is, according to Dana,
one of the most
Like
Viral things that happens when it happens. Yep fouls striker fouls include clubbing their clubbing stepping Yeah, so I guess I'd be making an actual step with your foot illegal windup. Oh, I'd be way guilty of that
delay of flinching blocking delay of game Wow
that. And delay of game. Flinching, blocking, delay of game. Wow. The complete power-slap rules that we posted shortly. Huh. Pretty cool. Yeah, that's crazy man.
You think you could do it? No. I don't think I'm like I don't getting hit. No.
Not your thing? No. What is one of the scariest moments in a tennis match? Are
there moments where you find like, because I'm sure so much of it is rhythm,
you've done it so much, right?
Yep.
Is there moments where you feel out of rhythm
and you're like, fuck, this is a, like.
Yeah, big time.
Or like, at US Open, I was playing quarterfinals
at US Open and I was, like US Open,
Arthur Ashe Stadium is one of the biggest stadiums
in the world for tennis.
Like it's literally, you walk to the back of the court,
you look up, it's like a sea of people. like staring down at you and it's really loud and you have celebrities
there like Michael Jordan was there once.
Pretty lit.
Like it's, it's a surreal feeling walking out to a court like that in front of like
60,000 and then you do it like millions of people watching around the world.
But it's like, yeah, if you're playing horrible, like, and you know, deep down, if you're not
having a good day, like on court and you can't fix it
because it's like, you can't just like instantly fix it.
You gotta be like, shit, I can't just sub off here
or pause the game or take a timeout.
It's like the game just keeps going.
You got to just problem solve, like on the go.
It's fucking hard.
And like,
is it possible to turn it around in a match?
Is it possible?
Yes, because in a grand Slam, it's like,
you have to win three sets.
So even if you lose the first two,
you have time to figure it out and turn it around,
but it's fucking hard.
It's why Novak and Federer and Nadal
have been so dominant for so long
because in the Grand Slam,
it's so hard to get on top of them for that long.
Like, pause.
Like, you can get on, you might win a set or two.
Like, that's like two hours, but then they'll eventually
start figuring you out.
And then it's just like.
And is there actual coaching that helps,
or is it just at that point you know what's going on?
Everyone knows everyone's strengths and weaknesses.
It's just about execution at that point.
Right. Yeah.
Like, when you're out there alone,
like, your coach can yell something out,
but if you can't execute, it's not gonna happen.
Yeah.
It's a pretty, it's a brutal sport, man.
Is it?
I don't think people give it enough credit.
Especially the top. Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I, yeah,
cause it, to stay that long, four hours of doing,
and who does anything, you know,
unless you're like, just doing something,
that's such a commitment.
And you have to be mentally locked in too.
Like, are there ever points you just zoned out?
You're like, fuck.
Yeah, big time.
Sometimes I just throw a game or a set,
like just to mentally reset for sure, definitely.
Yeah.
Yeah, because it's hard.
Wow, so that's almost part of the strategy too
You're like, yeah
It's like boxing like you put your hands down for a little bit like or you know, just taking a little bit of a pause
People I've been accused of like not trying or like it's called tanking
You know, you're just giving the opponent easy points and it's just like I'm just trying to compose myself to go again
Right. It's like a boxer does it you wouldn't accuse him of just like not trying. Yeah tactic, you know
Mmm, Todd that you wouldn't accuse him of just like not trying. It's just like a tactic, you know? It's hard.
Yeah, man.
Damn, I never realized that.
I never even thought about it.
I never even thought about what it would be like
to be out there for so long.
And then if you're not doing well, then too,
how do you even keep going?
Yeah, you gotta have a short-term memory loss
or like you have to be a good loser in tennis
because you lose every week. Essentially like you have to be a good loser in tennis because you lose every week
essentially like you have to win six matches to win a tournament and
Novak these greatest of all time are usually winning these tournaments
So like you win then you go lose and you just like reset next week new country
Like losing is just part of the process really. Yeah, which is hard
And is there much camaraderie amongst the players and stuff? Or do you get to...
Another cool thing, like we shout, like any other pro sport
you have your own locker room, like you eat separately
like tennis, you're all in one locker room
like I'm showering and I'm eating and I'm
spending time with my opponent before
going out there and playing. No.
Yeah. And then we like, you might be out there
four hours playing and then you're just like
next to each other again straight after the match.
No. Fucking crazy. Oh
Is that so is sometimes that really uncomfortable? You're like, I do not want to be around this person anymore
He's like we just competed and we could get into a bit of a like a scuffle on the court or like argument
Then you like sharing next to guys like the fuck is this? Yeah, crazy. Oh
Yeah, like Wimbledon final me and Novak in the same locker room,
like right next to each other.
And then we're walking out together, eating together,
then we play like the final.
What the fuck?
Yeah, it's crazy.
Why would they, they should film all of that.
Why isn't that the first three sets, dude?
Yeah.
You guys just, you know, having soup next to each other,
just angrily.
It's pretty crazy.
Yeah, I'll see why that isn't the first. Yep. Oh, it's so intense. Yep
What's in any other news anything else that popped up that was in our list man?
And we'll get you out of here Nick. Easy, brother. This is about AI
Jensen Huang who I'm gonna assume is
Asian asian is Esien. At the recent World Government Summit in Dubai, NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang
made a counterintuitive break with what he thinks is a long tradition of tech
CEOs advising youngsters to learn how to code. Huang argued that even at this
early stage of the artificial intelligence revolution, programming is
no longer a vital skill.
With coding taken care of by AI,
humans can instead focus on more valuable expertise
like biology, education, manufacturing, or farming.
Wow.
I agree with it.
You do?
Yeah, because it's like anything you leave down to like computers and AI,
some would do with numbers for sure.
Yeah. It'd get done probably way more, like 10 and AI, some would do with numbers for sure.
It'd get done probably way more,
like 10 times more accurate
and done in the shortest period of time.
But here's one thing that's interesting about AI is like,
if they can program the backend of AI, right?
Then they'll be able to start to dictate
like what even is created or written,
like and what history is in it.
Like I say, if they only put a certain history in AI
and they only say one side of history,
or they don't, you know,
then if you're even writing a paper
and you wanna use AI to help you,
or a script, or creating a piece of art,
the information it's gonna give back,
that's what I start to worry.
Because, like imagine if you wrote a note to somebody,
but the paper determined what you could actually say
in the note.
Yeah, like you had limitations, it had to be one way.
Right, the paper wouldn't let you put certain words,
you wrote certain words, they disappeared,
and they replaced it with another word
that the paper felt like was more accurate.
It's arguably what the media is right now though.
Oh, 100%, that's exactly what the media is,
but I think, yeah, I agree,
but if AI can do that, they'll,
then it's like even say someone,
your mom wanted to make a post on Facebook or something.
They put it up, but it only allows you to say even,
so then we're all just only allowed
to say the same things, you know?
And look, AI would never be able to take over,
say like podcasting or sport and stuff,
because people watch that because of the personalities
and the unknown outcome. That's a good point. Right. So we're safe.
Yeah, you would think. Yeah, we're safe. I think we're safe. You would think. One of my friends was saying the other day that he thinks like
at a certain point they won't even need actors for movies anymore because it will just be the likeness of people.
Yeah, so people will just give their likeness. Yeah, that's that's pretty crazy. It is crazy.
That's what gets me scared.
Because what if one day you just get to sit at home
and then it's just like a-
And see how you do at the US Open.
Yeah, that would be crazy.
Like they extract your self from you,
but you just kind of just what, yeah, that,
honestly, I wouldn't mind a fucking day off.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
I feel you, bro.
You know, like I actually wouldn't mind that,
having that option.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, like, you know what?
I'm gonna put my AI in today and see how he does.
And I'm okay if it comes back and it's a loss.
I don't give a shit.
That would be good.
Bro, that would be so good.
Yeah, I'll do it.
Autopilot.
Dude, it'd be so nice.
Yeah, but then it sucks though for like a farmer
who's like, I'm gonna send my AI to work
and then it's just, you know,
nothing gets watered.
Just no corn.
Nick man, thanks so much for hanging out bro.
Appreciate it man, it was good.
I appreciate it dude, yeah.
I would love to, yeah, I gotta come see a match man.
100%, definitely.
It's definitely interesting.
I wish I could come to your show tonight.
Yeah.
I'm on a double date with my girlfriend.
Although which I'm really looking forward to,
I just, I just want, you know.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Mrs.
I just would love to come.
Oh, that's all right, man.
That'd be good.
We'll get you to another one sometime, man.
Oh yeah, definitely.
Yeah, thanks for, yeah, just thanks, man.
It's cool.
Yeah, it makes me care a little bit more about tennis now.
It's interesting, you meet somebody and then you're like,
oh, I want to learn more about tennis.
You know, it's funny sometimes like the power of,
of an actual person to introduce somebody to something new. Definitely, definitely.
It's really real.
Your podcast as well?
Yeah, Good Trouble.
Season one, four episodes have come out.
Nice.
Yeah, it's good, man.
I mean, I do it because I'm actually,
like I'm passionate about learning about others' journey.
And it's been pretty good, man.
Speaking of, and these are the people that I look up to.
And with me, I've got massive imposter syndrome.
I see you all over social media now.
I'm sitting next to you having a conversation.
That shit blows my mind.
But talking Gordon Ramsay about his culinary journey.
Oh yeah. Fucking crazy.
Like he was saying some pretty cool stuff and it's cool.
Yeah, imposter syndrome is so real, isn't it?
Yeah, it's nuts.
People like, you got like other people saying like,
oh, a sign of an insecure person is imposter syndrome.
So usually the people that haven't really been there
aren't doing anything.
Yeah.
You know, like it's so real that like,
I'm like, I'm from Canberra and I'm sitting next to
Theo Vonn, some crazy stuff.
Well, it's crazy for me that I'm sitting next to somebody
who's been at Wimbledon, you know?
Oh, did you see Stone Hands when you went over there?
Nah, bro, bro.
I was there, I made the final.
I had nothing else to do for,
I was there for like 20 days, bro,
just like playing, eating, sleeping,
physiotherapy, massage, sleep.
Wow.
That's it.
Like I had maybe went out for dinner a little bit,
but my dad was there.
I was very lucky.
He was cooking, but no time to do anything else.
Dude, Stonehenge, go see it if you get a chance.
I think it only takes, I don't know how long,
cause I don't know where it is, but you can go there.
It's like they make it, I remember in school,
it was like a big deal.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, yeah.
Bro, it's fucking, it's just some rocks
on the side of the interstate, man.
On the side of the highway.
Like, they don't care at all.
It's like, you just drive by it.
Really?
Yeah, like they made such a big deal about it in the US,
but I went there, yeah.
It's just like, I don't know, whatever.
Nick Curios, thank you so much, man.
Best of luck, man.
When are you gonna be back at tennis, do you think?
About one month.
One month back on court. Really?
Yeah. Fuck, bro.
So, very soon, yeah.
Yep.
Wow.
Yeah, we're gonna get you out there.
Yeah dude, I'll be out there.
So where do you live in the States?
Texas, right?
I live in, yeah sure.
I live in Texas.
I live in Tennessee.
Tennessee.
But I've thought about moving down to Texas, man.
I think about it sometimes.
It's a cool place.
Yeah.
Well come to New York.
Come to US Open.
Yeah, I would love to man.
I gotta go.
I've never been so.
Yeah, you would love it,
cause you actually can like have a drink
and oh, you don't drink, or you can just be loud.
Who knows, if I, yeah, who knows if I'll be drinking
by then, but probably not,
but if I do, I'll fucking have one right there.
100%.
I'll get fucking ridiculous in there.
I'm down.
Oh yeah.
All right, Nick, thanks man.
Appreciate that man.
Cheers bro.
Enjoy, good luck for tonight, eh?
Yeah, thank you man.
Now I'm just floating on the breeze Thanks, man. Appreciate that. Cheers, bro. Enjoy good luck for tonight. Yeah. Thank you, man