Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura - The Amazin' Opinions of Jesse Lee Peterson | Your Mom's House Ep. 743
Episode Date: January 24, 2024SPONSORS: Don’t miss out on all the action this week at DraftKings! Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using https://dkng.co/mom or through my promo code MOM. WHAT A MESS! It’s another ep...isode of Your Mom’s House and this week, Tom Segura and Christina P are joined by radio host, broadcaster, and very cool guy, Jesse Lee Peterson. Before Jesse joins in, Tom and Christina open the show with a clip of a bike lane confrontation by an aggressive surfer, get a shoutout from popular barista Caitlin Campbell, and check out the wild comments of another wholesome content creator called Wise Words From Neve. Tom also shares his handsy experience at Sam's Tailor in Hong Kong and we also get a sweet update from Dr. Drew! The Main Mommies then chat with Jesse Lee Peterson and get an insight into who he is and where he came from. He has a lot of out there ideas about race and gender, but also has an interesting view of forgiveness and letting go of anger. He also talks to the Mommies about mothers, Los Angeles, Ryan Sickler's appearance on his show, taking responsibilities, "Big Momma Michelle", segregation, and great pilots who happen to be women. Cool stuff, neat stuff, slick stuff. https://tomsegura.com/tour https://christinaponline.com/tour-dates https://store.ymhstudios.com https://www.reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast Your Mom’s House Ep. 743 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Yeah.
Yeah.
And she's like, yeah.
I'm like, why?
What about these? Um, FAT'm like, why? What about these betas?
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Welcome.
Welcome to your mom's house.
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Happy New Year.
Can you still say that?
I feel like we're deep in it already.
You can still say it.
It's January.
You can still say it.
You can feel it.
I haven't seen some of them since last year,
so it's still happy New Year.
That's true.
I'm still in fucking shell shot from being in the house
with the boys, the three of us, four of us for the last three days.
I know, Jesus Christ.
PTSD.
Why is it, like you only have like two nice minutes
with children and then they either fight
or they scream in your ear or they do something horrible.
And always it's like you wake up and you're like,
I'm gonna go say hi to my sons.
I'm like, hey boys, and they're like, what are you doing here? to my sons. I'm like, hey boys, and they're like,
what are you doing here?
Get out.
And I'm like, okay.
Okay, I know.
I feel like I wake up every morning
with a renewed sense of possibility.
Or like you walk in and they're like,
ehh.
How are you starting the day crying?
Always, tears, are they're hitting each other?
He bit me.
He bit me.
And then I don't even think they're gonna learn to read
because they can't sit still.
So like I had all these visions of me teaching our sons
everything I know, but I don't even think you can.
They can't sit still.
No.
That'd be cool.
They'll learn other ways.
Yeah.
What can we teach them?
They won't sit fucking still.
Shit. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know.
Man, it's futile. Anyway, I'm pumped to be here.
It's so great.
And like, away from my kids for the first time in days, bro.
Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully they're getting by, you know, they're on their own.
They're all alone.
There's food in the fridge. They'll figure it out.
No, but it's been, I just got back from Asia. Yeah, it was a fucking
Awesomeness. I mean, I just can't tell you how great
Let me tell you how happy I am for you
Here with the kids in winter in the house typical woman, but I was happy for you
I have to tell you that man I I always wanted to go to Tokyo.
Same.
And they are the fucking best people.
They're like the best.
They're the best, right?
They really are, man.
I know, I love the Japanese.
They really are.
And then in Hong Kong, you're like,
oh, okay, we're losing this battle.
These motherfuckers are advanced.
We're fucking dumb.
Speak Chinese, bro.
You better learn Mandarin right fucking now.
Dude.
Because it feels, you're like, holy shit.
Yeah.
So great too, because in Japan, it's exactly what you imagine
the Japanese are like.
They're so polite and they're so you know just kind
and everything is like excuse me and everything's with a smile like the
construction worker so when there's a construction job we have it here too
there's a guy whose job it is he wears a vest and he's like stay off this you
know stay off this sidewalk go around but he'll be like go over there you know
yeah come on what the fuck are you doing right in Japan the guy like
He like nods and smiles and he's like shows you the way to go
I'm sorry to even bother you
And then you get that for whatever the few days we were there everywhere
Everywhere someone is just like excuse me or I'm sorry or thank you and everyone's super polite everybody's so nice
And you get the Hong Kong. They're like, I don't give a fuck about you bro like they
squatting on the streets and spitting in alleyways
Yeah, we don't give a fuck but such a vibrant city. I mean the energy of Hong Kong hmm is
It's like in New York dialed up. It's way dialed up
The food stop don't even tell me about the dim sum I missed out on.
Well, here's the thing. The dim sum was awesome, but of my meals, I had nothing but great meals
in Tokyo, in Hong Kong, and in Singapore. Singapore was lovely.
We went to a three star Michelin in Singapore called Zen.
Yeah.
One of the culinary experiences of my life.
Like absolutely outrageous.
In Hong Kong, the thing that really stood out to me,
we went to a place called New Punjab Club,
which is an Indian place.
Just spectacular.
And then Tokyo, if you have a fucking tomato in a salad
in Tokyo, you're like, I think it's one of the best tomatoes
I've ever had in my life.
Everything was like that.
Every little thing you had was the best version of that thing.
And it was just incredible.
We went to a great tapenyaqui place.
We had a moccasse.
And then we went to Wagyu Mafia, which was such a highlight.
But I saw it on your fun blog.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I did a fun blog because I like to let people know,
you know, what a typical day in the life of a guy like me.
So I put it together a little vlog.
I loved your wasabi challenge.
You were like, it's really spicy.
And you did that stupid thing that they all do.
It was really hot.
And people would go wink at me one more time.
There was so many.
There was, I never got so much hate. There was so many, there was, I never got so much hate.
It was so much hate.
The best part was that the audience that follows this show
totally gets that thing.
But there was a lot of people who were watching that
and they were like, the fuck is wrong with this guy?
And like, what is this doing?
A total personality change?
Oh yeah, and that actually made,
I don't think I laughed harder than I think we uploaded it and then I was traveling
and I landed in the next country and I opened that thing
and there was 7,000 comments on it and I was like,
oh my God, and I laughed.
So I mean, people were saying things like,
sending buckets of hate. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
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I love that.
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I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. and hating you while you were having fun when I was alone with our children for 10 days.
But then I saw that vlog and it almost erased all of it
because I was like, this might be worth the 10 day absence
because the vlog was so fantastic.
It was great.
It's on your Instagram.
Instagram and it's on TikTok, yeah.
We have such a loaded show.
Why don't we just open this real quick?
Just get started.
Come on, fuck with me.
Don't hit me.
Huh?
What are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do?
Huh?
Put him on tape,
serve her against a queer.
Huh? Is that what you're gonna do?
Tough guy.
You wanna be a tough guy?
You're not so tough right now.
You're not so tough, are you, small guy?
You're a short little guy.
I'm following the law.
You're not following the law. You're a tiny little man. Think you're a big shot. Vehicle code. You're a so tough are you small guy? You're a short little guy. You're not following the law. You're a tiny little man.
Vehicle code. Vehicle code.
2170. 2170. Three feet.
You're so fucking good.
Is that my laughing?
Don't bring anyone loving to this.
Go bombing the fuck is there Hey, hey, hey.
Meow, meow.
Meow, meow, meow.
Cha, cha, cha, cha, cha, cha. If there wasn't any new witnesses, you know what I do to you?
I pull Trump on you.
What's your name?
Huh?
My name is your worst enemy, motherfucker.
No.
My name is your worst enemy.
You want to...
I'm your Huckleberry, buddy.
Oh, that's a good line.
I'm your Huckleberry.
You short little fucking punk
Huh, you come through this town thinking you're fucking really cool on your bike like you own this lane
Look at the bike lane is on this is called share in the middle of the street. Cheryl. I get Cheryl
I get that entire lane on me like this
You came my way
Because you were way over in our didn't block your way. I honked my horn because you were
way over in our lane.
No, that's my lane.
Dude.
Fun.
I feel like I get his rage, though.
I understand, and I actually very much empathize with the hatred of a cyclist. I think it's
a fun thing that the universe kind of, we all rejoice in it, but it's a... Because they're, listen, the cyclists' delusion
that they can share the road with cars
that weigh tons and can murder them, it's just not cool.
Here's the thing also.
It's dangerous.
Because I actually, you know,
I think it's cool that you ride your bike.
And I think it's, you know, it's obviously,
it's healthy.
Mom, I ride your bike.
Yeah, it's environmentally friendly. I get that, it's good for you.
The thing that, and the cyclists will always be like,
we deserve the protection and the saving,
you're like, yeah, you should have your lane.
But none of these motherfuckers obey the rules of the road,
none of them.
I drive and I see them, they all run,
they're supposed to do the same thing that cars do
They run through lights. They run through signs. They don't do any of the shit
You're supposed to do then they get met now this guy this guy's out of his mind the guy confronting him
Yeah, and you can tell that his voice is shake. He wants to go way crazier
He wants to call him an F and F a and guess what yeah, here we go. I know that's what he wants
No, it's not a lane. It's here we go. I know that's what he wants
It's Cheryl look at the law look at the law. You're lucky today. You're lucky today. What's your name? Huh? My name is your worst enemy. You can't fucking short little fucking faggot
That's why I was like, yeah
All this was leading up to that one
Cuz you're afraid aren't you? Yeah? You're pussy. That's why.
Think you're tough on your fucking stupid little bike,
or your short little fucking pussy.
You don't want to fuck with a guy like me,
and a surfer that lives in this fucking town.
Puts up with your fucking shit all the time.
True.
I've never heard somebody be like, you don't want to fuck with a surfer.
Well, I didn't think surfers were tough.
Well, there's like the protectors
of the beat, like the the watchmen, you know what I mean? think servers were tough. Well, there's there's like the protectors of the beat like the the
Watchmen, you know, I mean enforcers seem point break.
Yeah, there's enforcers like and there's there's some really gnarly ones in Hawaii.
Oh, I bet there's dudes down there who like if you are
just coming to town and think you're just going to take, you know,
come into that beach and surf wherever you want.
There's dudes that'll fuck you up there.
That's true. The locals.
This guy doesn't seem like that guy.
I don't, I don't, he doesn't look like he surfed
in about 20 years.
He looks like the physique on you.
He has a fucking, he looks like he has triplets in him.
Like he's, that's not happening.
Look at his,
It's like your shit all the time.
Like you walked away here.
Like you own the road.
Yeah.
You own the road, I don't own the road, but you don't want to fucking go.
Me on the way.
See that sign right there?
That's Sherrow.
See that?
See that Sherrow.
Huh?
Sherrow.
See that symbol right there?
Look at that hushie right there.
He's so fast.
Yeah.
He's like, you don't want to fuck with this surfer.
It's like, when did you last see the beach?
Bitch, he's since the 70s.
See this?
This means you're a fucking dead man walking.
You come on to my fucking land.
My land.
Okay, you're a fucking dead man.
And then I'm your Huckleberry.
What movie is that from?
I don't know.
That's an old reference.
Tombstone.
Tombstone.
I'm your Huckleberry.
I'm your Huckleberry?
Yeah, that's from a movie.
You know, it's just, and I feel bad for El Cholo restaurant because it's right behind
and they're such a good place.
They are.
No hate or shame at El Cholo. I just gotta say, I mean, I just, I don't know.
I love starting the day with confrontation.
You do.
You love.
And can I, may I tell the audience what I know about you?
Sure.
So I have my morning routine, which I've discussed on this show.
Your morning routine consists of you open your little baby bird eyes.
You touch me to make sure I'm awake, which is exceedingly rude,
because sometimes I'm not.
And you just presume that because you're awake, I'm awake,
which is so fucking weird.
That's what toddlers do, too, by the way.
You open your eyes, you reach for your iPhone,
and then it ramps up, starts with a little fight, confrontation.
Like you like to watch videos.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
That, that, that.
And then it eventually ramps up to
And I'm like, oh, there's black people fighting. I know time is a good place. It's always the same. It's actually I'll tell you this
it's a lot more like
workplace accidents and
car accidents, you know trucks backing up over people forklifts de, decapitating people, things like that. It doesn't sound, it doesn't,
that's what you open with.
Because I know it's, it's, it's kind of like,
usually it's like the, the dessert of the whole thing,
you know, there's, there's, there's a lot of,
I get a lot of China accidents
and I get a lot of violence from Brazil.
I get a lot of-
Hate from Brazil.
Robberies, shootings from Brazil.
Yeah. It's pretty cool. Wow. I don't know
I mean what you fill your head with before you go to bed is usually murder crime
Yeah, so serial killers and then you wake up and then it's a steady diet of confrontation
Workplace injuries and murders and then the other day you and I were play fighting
Yeah, like just in the bathroom remember that when we were play fighting. Yeah. Like just in the bathroom remember that? When we were play fighting?
Mm-mm.
Yeah, you were like, you were just,
like you were kind of.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I mean, we haven't done that in a while.
And you just grabbed my throat a little bit,
like to fuck with me.
And I was like, oh, like,
I, I, I haven't,
we used to do it a lot more,
I think before we had children, but then there's so much violence in the house anyway. I feel like we used to do it a lot more, I think before we had children,
but then there's so much violence in the house anyway,
I feel like we don't need it.
But I was actually really startled,
because I realized like, you're very strong,
you're stronger than you've ever been,
and I'm like, you can murder me so fast.
It's one twist of the wrist, and I'm dead.
It wouldn't be hard, yeah.
It wouldn't be hard.
But I don't like rough housing with you at all.
Like, I am terrified.
And we used to do it a lot more.
Yeah.
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So you remember the, obviously, the reason I made that video was because we had discovered
this Caitlyn, the coffee girl, right?
No, yes, yeah, yeah.
Why did she evoke so much hatred?
It's so benign.
She's just living her life.
Hate from Australia.
Tom's laugh kills me every time.
This week has been super crazy
So if you guys did not see we got featured on the Your Moms House podcast by Tom Sagura
We're basically in the segment
He was pointing out the absurdity of the troll comments I get here on Instagram and yeah
It's pretty insane and since then his fans and his community have just come over and followed
supported my small business and sent so many messages of encouragement, which seriously works the
world.
Hey, what's up?
My name is Gaitlyn.
I'm the girl you were featuring on your podcast.
Nice to meet you virtually.
I want to say thank you for the kind words that you did say and all the laughs because
yeah, your segment absolutely had me in stitches.
I was crying laughing.
You have a very contagious laugh. So sweet. I'm crying but my name is Gatelyn I'm a barista I own a coffee company called
street brew coffee and my goal is just to make content that spreads joy and makes people
smile or laugh so I guess we succeeded there. Tom I would love to hook you up with some
coffee so let me know if I can do that and hopefully one day soon I'll get to brew you
some coffee in person but Tom thank you to your mom's house community.
Thank you as well.
Oh, well, and I'm going to keep changing the world with my positivity.
Oh, she's very sweet.
She's very sweet.
And I have to say, I think actually the real thanks should be to like you guys for,
you know, I think you had a lot of fun with it where you got to send your hate.
But it also had a wink of love.
And I think it probably had a positive effect.
So that's just a, really it's a thanks to you guys
for being so sweet to her.
And yeah, we should definitely try to link up with her.
I think it'd be really fun.
Before we move on to something else,
there's another, so I, you know,
the reason I even brought this up on the show
is because I was scrolling and I had seen,
and I think the first thing I noticed was,
not even the content, but just seeing a little bit,
and then seeing the comment number.
I was like, well, that's a lot of comments, you know?
Like when I first played her,
and I found this other one, which is like,
also like totally innocent.
It's this young girl who does like dad jokes.
Like she does things like this this and it caught my eye again
because the comments are outrageous.
All right.
I don't rise and shine.
I caffeinate and hope.
They're just like.
Yeah, it's just sweet.
She's sweet though.
Yeah, she's cute, little blonde girl.
She does videos like this all the time.
Just, they're all like this.
They're all like bad dad jokes.
And then she's like, and she's really like innocent.
Yeah, I mean, look, there's some comedians
that make a really good living
doing material very similar to this.
There's a huge audience.
Do you want to have the comments say under this? Oh no. Awesome.
Blow up my force can like a balloon.
Oh look, 5,512 likes. Jesus. Very funny. Dip your feet in my drinking water. Oh my
gosh. That's for the foot fetishist community. Salute. 149 hearts. Hilarious. Fist me with both hands.
That's cool. I've never heard that before. I mean, but this poor girl, like she's not,
she is not like this at all, you know. No. Cool joke. Hold my hand while we ethnically cleanse
the Balkans again. That's pretty good. How much for one pint of your piss?
Oh, shit.
I mean, it gets really...
Yeah, poor girl, I shouldn't need that.
No, I'm gay.
Can you put your dad on?
Okay.
Okay.
I'll just show dad's track.
Please lay your feet on my face after a hot, sweaty run.
What's going on?
While you say things to me, I haven't ever heard, but it's from you, so it's a pleasure to my
ears, music, five-four short king, okay?
Okay. I mean, it's very, it's from you. So it's a pleasure to my ears music. Five four short king.
Okay.
I mean, it's very, it's very specific.
Yeah.
The foot community, she must be putting her feet out there.
No, she's not.
She's not putting anything out there.
She's putting these jokes out there
and people are saying lock me in your basement
and like let me use your vaginal discharge
to brush my teeth and shit.
Oh my God.
Nobody deserves this.
You're so funny.
Kweef under my eyelids.
Jesus.
41,000 likes.
Jesus.
Kweef under my eyelids.
Wow, that's creative.
She's really just a nice girl.
I'd let you shit on my neck on a 45 degree incline
and watch the slippery thing slide down my chest
leaving a trail.
Wow, that's specific too.
It's very specific.
45 degree.
Yeah.
Made me laugh. LOL, please shit on my chest. Yeah. There's a lot of that. This is what it
feels like to be a female comic. Does it? You know. Yeah. Certain audiences. She's such a sweetheart.
I mean like the videos. Do you have any more you could play just so I can give her an idea of like.
I hope she's not reading these comments. Oh she knows of these comments. That's all her comments are oh dear. That's terrible. Haha. Please shut on my forehead. That's funny
She's she doesn't deserve this no nobody does she's sad dr. Anal X said that
He's really in the caca. Yeah named himself. He looks submissive and breathable Jesus. That's creepy
That's just like it's the sexual stuff that really is not cool.
Can I tell you why I think they do it to her?
Because when you see more of these, she's such an innocent.
Like she's an actual... she seems like a true innocent.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like she's of adult age, but she's really wholesome.
So they're trying to unwholesome her.
Yeah, I mean they're all like...
Yeah, just...
My dogs are named Timex and Rolex
They're my watch dogs
Come on like yeah, I know it's that you don't have to go like this is yeah
Yeah, for me, but you also don't have to be like I'm finna suck the polish off them nails shit on my
These comments are awful and disgusting piss in my in my eyes. Geez, they're really?
Yeah, like, oh, the first one, the snow one.
You know, like, I saw this one the other day.
She goes,
Every day I'm shoveling.
I mean, it's...
Yeah, I got it.
This is an innocent girl, right?
Yeah, she's sweet.
Hey, every day I'm shoveling.
I'm thirsty.
Pee in my mouth to give me new things for the day.
Every...
This is crazy.
This poor girl.
Like, but it is kind of exciting that this is a whole new culture now of just
comment culture. Yeah, it is. Now people are just going to find people that
universally shit on, which is kind of interesting.
Comedy.
Please use me as your tampon so I can tear the blood.
I don't want to read this poor girl.
What's with all the degenerate comments? This white girl literally does nothing.
Pee on my meals.
Fart in my eyes.
What is wrong with you people?
Fart in my eyes.
I saw one where it just said pee in my cereal.
God.
You know, I once again, I feel like your mom's house is always on the leading edge.
Yes.
These things.
I'm going to throw it out there that we started this with Garth Brooks.
Yeah.
And this is our culture that is now being co-opted.
And yeah, we did this.
This is this is our thing.
Right before we wrap here, I got to tell you this.
So this poor girl, obviously we send you our love and our hate. Yeah
Sorry that people are asking you to pee in their cereal
you remember that
We flipped that when we first saw this man
He's flown down to Hong Kong
Just a suit from me
He saw all my videos and he wanted me to help him create his signature style He's so out of his mind. Right? So we played these videos for a while. If you guys remember,
I was going to Hong Kong for the tour. He hit me up. It was like, you have to stop in. And I was with the group and I was like, we have to go.
I went there and I got the full experience.
I have a couple of suits coming, a couple of shirts.
But he insisted that he do his thing to me.
Full treatment.
Ladies and gentlemen, the eagle has landed and nobody,
nobody is as bald as Tom.
Tom Segur. Oh my God. Finally here in Hong Kong.
He signed, he signed his death wish by featuring me on a show.
And now he's all mine. Two buttons. He's an American. He can't even afford buttons.
I've given him and pens. No dot dot dot hand needle and thread pig stitching. Tax stitching
for the tacky American. He got one sleeve, only one sleeve because this is what your budget deficit
does to you. Only one fucking sleeve, but I have him gift wrap like everybody else even the Americans even the bald ones even the famous ones
I have an absolutely gift wrap in my 4d fit now
You know why Americans come to Hong Kong?
Because they like Chinese massage. It's making me uncomfortable. Oh God
Massage forget about Chris Rock
Tom's cigar is the great white hope.
That's my hope.
And he likes shy knees massage.
Tom, are you happy?
Great, this is good.
Are you happy?
Yes, yes.
He's paying the shit out of me.
This is for Joe Biden.
Okay.
And there's another one for Joe Biden.
Okay.
And send that to Joe Biden as well.
Okay.
And whilst you're going over there,
send that to Joe Biden too.
Are you happy with me, Tom?
They're so good. Thank you. Jesus. Fully molested. And he you're going over there, send that to Joe Biden too. Are you happy with me too? They're so good.
Thank you.
Jesus.
Fully molested.
And he used to be so strange.
This is what's so strange.
I can honestly tell you that
he probably makes the best suits in the world.
Yeah.
They are fucking unbelievable.
Well, this is why.
He's fully insane.
And you go in there,
his father is like such a respectful,
you know, polite, genuine, so like,
the polar opposite personality of him.
So they're hilarious to watch in person
because he's doing this, his father's in the background
and he's like, what are you doing?
Stop that.
Like, and he just, he provokes his dad.
It reminds me of like me and my mom.
They're lit, like they have photos of everybody
they've suited and booted.
It's the last six US presidents.
Wild.
Not Joe Biden.
Armani, oh yeah, I'm probably not Biden.
But like every celebrity, huge soccer players,
like everybody goes to Santa, I'll just say this,
if you're gonna go to Hong Kong, you have to stop in.
You have to stop in, just get even if you're like,
I'm not in the, you know, get a shirt.
They make shirts, suits, they do everything.
They can do custom bombers, they do everything.
But the best materials in the world,
these are like generations of tailors, you know,
like his father, his father.
It's in his blood, it's in his DNA.
They're amazing, so thank you for watching me and thank you for the new gear.
Roshan, I'm very excited to get it.
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And another thing we want to chat about here real quick is that our dear friend and family
member really, Dr. Drew, his show will no longer be coming out of YMA Studios,
Dr. Drew After Dark, which was really like people, some people who maybe came along later
don't actually know that that just came from our actual just love of having him on the podcast.
Like he was, I remember the first time that he came on we were like,
man, I laughed so hard.
It's the best.
Because to have this like reputable, smart, thoughtful, logical, reasonable man who's
a doctor, listen to our nonsense and comment on it. But like take it seriously. It was
such a funny thing to do that I was like, man, we have to we we had him have a hot take on whether or not farts push the shit
Yeah, he gave us really thoughtful answer and he's like, you know
We're just come come from and all just he would be like
But like it was so funny and watch him watch cool guys
There's a people make a to-do list we had a to drew list where we if something was really remarkable
We'd make sure to make note of it so that when he came on,
we would remember to play it for him.
Anyway, all that is to say that we ended up doing
Dr. Drew After Dark, which was a joy we did in LA,
we've done it here, and it just became a lot for him to,
you know, he flies out to Austin to bank shows and then fly back.
And he's a very busy guy.
He still has a practice.
He still sees patience.
He has a practice and he's also like, he does media.
He's doing appearances.
Yeah.
Speaking engagements and endorsements.
He's a very, very busy life.
So anyway, we love the guy and we're sad to see it end.
But we want to jump on the phone with him right now
and just say what's up, cause it's been a minute.
We actually just saw him.
We just ran into him in LA.
We were in the same hotel that they just happened to be
and he and his wife, so crazy.
Mommy?
Hello?
Hello?
Hello?
Hello, the tip of my peepee is itchy.
Hi, Dr. Drew.
Again?
Again, again. Hi, Dr. Drew. Again? Again.
Again.
Hi, Drew, we miss you.
I know, I miss you guys too.
We were just reminiscing about how we first had you
on the podcast and we were like, this is so amazing
to have like a thoughtful, smart guy entertain
the stupid shit that we say.
And then we would always so look forward to having you as a guest.
And it eventually led to you starting your podcast that we love doing it and we love
you obviously, but we're sad to see it go, but understand that you're a super busy guy.
This isn't the most logical setup or easy setup. I should say it is
It is a lot to come to Austin to get on a plane to fly there every couple weeks
But I just want to say that in terms of those early appearances. I feel so
Gratitude I'm so many levels, but one was I got to see where they all started. I was
To be and to be in your in your garage, wherever that was.
And so confusing to me, so confusing.
Yeah, we were just talking about
how you gave us a really thoughtful explanation
on whether it's farts that push the shit out
or shits that push the farts out.
My first triumph, my first triumph.
And then my exposure to Robert Paul Champagne.
Oh, yeah.
Magic and I fell in love.
I had to go visit him in New York,
which was another chapter I shall not forget.
And listen, this whole thing was such a blessing
and sort of unexpected.
You know, who knew we were going to do that?
I know.
I've been doing it for years and years years and I just was such a gift and I only regret I have is that I'm gonna miss the
booth boys and you guys and you on a regular basis but I have no doubt we'll see you again
soon. We weirdly ran into each other in Southern California. Yeah, that was very recently.
But also, you know, I would love to have you come back
at some point this year to be a guest on your mom's house.
It would be so fun to have you on again.
Done and done.
Okay, great.
Help me in.
And again, just only,
I leave with the most positive feelings and gratitude
and it was such a great experience.
And everything comes to an end, but 2024 is a bit much for me. I got a bunch of television coming,
one of my sons getting married, it just was just too much. Yeah I totally understand and listen
we feel the same way nothing but gratitude, love and appreciation for you, you're a wonderful talent
and you're an even better person and we I'm so thankful that I'm friends with you. I absolutely love you as a human being.
And yeah, I mean, it was fun.
I remember we were in New York together,
not long ago either, just happened to-
Oh my God, with Tim.
Yeah, and we ended up having dinner
and that was so much fun.
And then Christina, I'm still available
to discuss your vomiting phobias
and any other weird shit that comes along.
You got it.
To be fair, to be fair, it all started with your preoccupation with what's going on in
the head of comedians.
So I'll just focus on yours from now on.
I love that.
I can't wait.
I'm going to text you all kinds of awful things.
Absolutely.
And I want to show you my butthole when I see you next, Dr. Drew.
Oh, God, I can't wait.
Is it a whack?
No, it's full of hair, but hopefully we can work on it together.
Beautiful. Thank you, Dr's full of hair, but hopefully we can work on it together. Beautiful.
Thank you, Dr. Drew.
Hey, wait, hey, one thing, people would mind, check out, one of the other things that got
busy this year is the streaming show I do, excuse me if I didn't mention it, is at drdrew.tv
or dr.com.
Please check that all out.
Definitely.
I look forward to seeing some of the YMH faithful there and then back when I come to Austin.
You got it, man. Thank you so much Drew. All right we love you Drew.
He's the best. And can I tell you for people if you've never I don't know why you would notice but
like some celebrities you meet and they're just such a disappointment in your life like Dr.
Drew is legit a nice human being. Yeah he's a really good guy. He's a real deal. He's a really
good guy. He's so good. There's very few out there where you're like, oh yeah, you're a legit good human.
And now we shift to a black. When we come back, our guest will be Jesse Lee Peterson.
I can't wait to get into it. Welcome back. We are super excited to have today's guest
joining us for the first time. Please put your hands together for Jesse Lee Peterson everybody.
Amazing.
This is a huge, huge get. Thank you for coming in. I know it's super cold. It's not normally this cold here.
Black people don't like it. You guys don't have any blacks in this town, right?
Very few.
A few.
There's more in there, but he's pretty much...
You think he's white.
Yeah.
Do you say that to you? There's one in there, but he's pretty much... You think he's white? Yeah. You think so?
Did you say that to you?
No.
If you live in a cold spade, he has to be thinking he's white.
Yeah, for sure.
And by the way, thank you guys for amazing hospitality.
Oh, good.
You treated us as though we were white.
That's how we try to treat all our guests.
It's always been a life philosophy of mine.
I go treat your guests like they're white.
That's what I go with, yes.
Absolutely.
And it's like everything just fell in place.
Yes.
Everything.
Almost like you're not one problem.
Good.
That's great.
Great.
Very rare.
Very rare approach to things.
That's why I like white people.
They do it right.
You think so?
Yeah, tell us everything.
Do you think that whites do it right?
I tremble.
You know, there's a report that says
that white people are becoming the minority in America.
And I tremble at that idea because once whites are gone,
America will be nothing but hell.
Really?
Because white people are more innovative and creative and and you know they just want a first class life.
So they get educated. Do you think that's an innate quality of whites? Yes. You do. I do.
Okay. Because look what happens when when the color people take over it turned into pure hell.
people take over it turned into pure hell. You can't name one city, one state, one that controlled by the blacks and you want to go live there. Right. Atlanta's okay. Can we? No 94.
94. I thought I was going to live in Atlanta. I grew up in Alabama so I used to go to Atlanta.
And I planned to if I didn't, I was gonna live in Atlanta
once I finished high school, but I went to California
the year before I finished high school
and I fell in love with LA.
So I moved to LA, but had anything gone wrong,
I had planned to move back to Atlanta,
but the whites moved out and the blacks took over and now.
Now you're like, hell.
There's a lot of black people in LA though.
Right, but they don't, those that are running,
look at Los Angeles, we now have a black female mayor.
Woof.
Karen Bass.
Jesus Christ.
That is a double hitter.
It is a mess.
Yeah, you got the double whammy.
Oh yes.
Yeah.
So, what a mess.
What a mess.
But here's the, I think we were so curious because you're from Alabama.
That's what I want to get to.
Your origin, right?
So can we start there?
Yes.
Because you're you were born, like Christina said, in, in where in Alabama in?
Now by Tuskegee.
Yeah, okay. Tuskegee.
And you were born in?
You were born in the Fawla area.
Where'd you born on a plantation?
I was born and raised on a plantation. I worked the plantation.
You worked the plantation?
My parents worked it, their parents worked it, and their parents worked it until I left
there.
You're amazing.
That is amazing.
But I would imagine that that experience shapes your perspective a bit, right?
Absolutely. So it would be a common sense to then say that
your grandparents or your great grandparents
were slaves on that plantation.
I'm sure it's somewhere down,
they never really talked about it, so I don't know.
But I do know that my grandparents,
my grandmother's father was killed,
he used to rent a plantation that I grew up on.
And he was like a tough guy, you know,
he did his own thing.
And so there was a black guy that was fired
from another plantation and my great grandfather hired him.
And the people from that plantation,
the whites came over and said,
you've got hired this guy?
He's like, no, I'm hiring him anyway.
I'm doing what I want to do is he hired him.
So they came in the middle of the night
to try to kill them, my great grandfather.
And but he had a gun under the bed, so he ran them off.
And then they came another night
and they were able to kill him
because his wife, he went for his gun
and the wife moved the gun away from the bed,
from underneath the bed.
And they were like, why didn't you move the gun?
Well, I didn't want him to do the wrong thing with the gun.
I rest my case.
Women.
Women.
Broads.
Fucking.
Here.
Fucking dipshits.
Every time, listen to the woman, you will suffer.
Yeah.
Thank you.
And so. That's a good quote. And so they were able to kill him. Adoptions every time listen to the woman you will suffer. Yeah
Yeah, that's a good so they were able to kill the button one great thing about growing up on a plantation we have family
we had grandparents we were taught to work from day one and
They told us the men the males that when you turn 18 you're out of here. I remember them telling me that when I was 18
I mean before I was 18 on a plantation now. I'm like where am I going and
They my grandparents said I don't know I don't care you leave it here and they see
But they taught me to work. They taught me to be responsible for me. And so when I turned 18 I left
I think is that when you went to LA?
I went to Indiana.
I got a job for one week.
I mean, two weeks, I made a paycheck, and I moved to LA.
It's that long?
OK, so.
But hold on.
Let's back up with life on the presentation.
What's life like for you?
How old are you when you start working?
Are they mean to you?
Do they hurt you?
I mean, I've seen the movies. I don't know. Is that what it's like?
No, it was amazing.
Amazing in a good way?
In a good way.
Working in the plantation was?
Yes.
I think that would be probably a big surprise for most people to hear.
And why? I know because they lie about the way things were, right? But when I was going on
plantation, it was no different than going to work for the adults and we would go to school and
Because we lived on this form
I would have to get up in the morning and go out to the pasture and bring the cow in because and milk the cows and
Like farm life to you. Yes, and then I would go back home and get ready to catch the school bus down the road at 7 a.m
The pair would get up and go to work. How old are you when you're doing this? I
When I saw a milk in and taking yeah about 15 oh, okay
Oh, 15 15 you're like high school. I have a picking cotton because when we get out of school
We would take go to home and take off our school clothes
and go to the fields and work the fields.
How old are you when you're picking cotton?
Six, seven, eight, nine, three.
Wow, that's very young.
Yeah, yeah.
But it was fun, it wasn't like.
It was fun.
Right.
How many hours a day are you picking cotton?
Because you got paid for it too.
Okay, yeah.
You got paid.
How long so you're six years old?
You come home from kindergarten
and then how long are you picking cotton for
when you get home?
Until four or five, I don't remember at that time
but of course go home at a reasonable time
and get ready for school.
So is this it, because you're born in the 40s?
Or?
49.
49, so you're like, this is the late 50s,
you're already working the fields.
Absolutely. Yeah, and is like is I mean
Most people's perspective on Alabama in the 50s and 60s is not like a flattering one, you know
But they're lying to you. Really? Yeah. Well, how was it for me?
It was like a kid growing up. You know, I didn't have a naked impression of him.
I went to school, I would go, I ran track, you know,
in high school, so I would go to track and field games.
You went to a segregated school, I'm assuming.
Right.
And that didn't feel weird to you
that you were in a little-
Not at all.
Not at all, because, you know, I was with my friends.
Yeah.
It was people, it wasn't like,
and I knew that there was whites on the schools
and blacks only, I remember the-
You think segregation was good?
It was neither good nor bad, it was a way of life.
But is it good that it ended?
No.
No.
It would have ended on its own.
It wasn't good that it was forced in it.
Because you're trying to, they're trying to make people love you,
you can't make someone love you.
You know, either a decent person,
we would talk not to hate whites or anyone, right?
To treat everyone the way that we would like to be treated.
And that was in my mind, and that's all we knew.
And so we treated all people the way
that we would like to be treated.
We didn't have a hatred. What if we had segregation today?
We do have it.
Like unofficially, you mean?
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, look at the blacks.
They don't want to graduate with the whites.
They don't want to live in the same dormitories as the whites.
They don't want to live if you move into their neighborhood.
They call that something.
Gentrification.
Something like that.
So you have it now because human beings hate one another.
And there's not the concept of love and treating each other the way you like to be treated.
Because during those days, all white people were not against black people.
It was more of a government thing.
Did you ever encounter some pretty racist whites in that era? Like in the 50s
in Alabama? There had to be a few, right? In fact, I wasn't aware of it.
Really? It was happening though. Because when I would go to downtown with my family sometimes,
my grandfather used to put us on the back of a truck. He had this big truck and he put all the great kids
that went in the truck and we all go to town sometime.
I wasn't treated bad.
It was happening.
I just was not aware of it.
My friends were not aware of it.
My cousins and my...
You're so young and...
Yeah, even as a teenager, they integrated my high school
the last year that I was there in 1968. But the teachers that
came, the white teachers, they brought different things, you know, that we were not doing prior
and it was just fun to do. And so it wasn't, things didn't get bad for the blacks until
they started that so-called civil rights movement. The worst thing.
Wait, why is it so called? Why is it a so-called civil rights movement, the worst thing. No worst thing.
Why is it a so-called civil rights movement?
Because there's no such thing as civil rights.
And the worst thing, no worst thing that ever happened to the blacks other than abortion
was the civil rights movement.
That was the worst thing that happened to the blacks?
Let's back up.
So why are there no civil rights?
Let's start there.
Because those are just words. What does that even mean?
Well, I think what you said before, when it's the government, so when you have government
instituted racism, that's not cool. So when the government stopped institutionalizing
or making laws that are racist, that are systemic, blatant, let's say, that's, I mean, that's
better.
It's just making the idea that like you,
as a black man, can't be discriminated against legally,
is like the, you know, the goal of the civil rights movement.
It was, yeah, some legal protections.
No, the goal of the civil rights movement
was to control the blacks,
Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, other people,
they wanted to control the blacks
for their own personal gain.
They wanted wealth and power.
And the way they did it, they made blacks think,
the hell you can't make it, white man holding you back,
look at this, and so listen to us.
And so especially in Montgomery, Alabama, and other areas, the blacks sold their
souls over to the civil rights leaders, and they sold them to the Democratic Party. And
if you notice, the blacks have gotten worse instead of getting better because they're
no longer individual, free thinking people. They're enslaved to their leaders. They're enslaved to the government.
They now don't have fathers and mothers in their homes because they have no sense of
self-control. They don't even know what it means to be an individual thinker.
You think?
Thinker anymore. Not all, not all, not all, but most.
Most black people?
Right, most black people have lost that sense of individuality and responsibility.
How do you think you remedy that?
Like what's the solution?
By being honest, not judging, not hating,
not being angry at, but just telling the truth,
you're never gonna be free until you become
an individual again.
What made Americans so amazing that we were individual?
We made our own decisions.
No one had to tell us who to vote for.
No one tell us, and like the so-called civil rights leaders,
they told us last to vote for the Democrats.
Yeah.
Because they wanted power and wealth on themselves
and they were the leader of the back.
So how do you look at, like let's say a Martin Luther King
Jr.?
He was a socialist.
He was a communist.
He used blasphemy for his own personal gain.
Really? Yes. He was a mess.
He was a mess.
He was a mess. Well, I always thought it was interesting when black people became Republicans, right?
Because you were like, the Republican Party doesn't like black people, historically.
But then there are black Republicans, right? Like in Atlanta. So what do you think about that? Should they be Republicans?
Originally, the Democratic Party didn't like the blacks. Blacks were not allowed to be a part of
the Democratic Party. And that's why the Republican Party was formed. It was formed by blacks and
whites. And that's why in the good old days, boys were boys and men were men you had black
Republican representative to congressman
Men working this thing right?
So it was the Democratic Party, but the so-called civil rights leader
Lie to the blacks instead it was the Republican Party
And so the blacks stopped thinking for themselves and they moved into the Democratic Party, and now they're being controlled.
What are we going to do about this?
What are we going to do about these blacks, man?
The blacks.
What?
Wrong with the blacks.
Yeah.
What would you want?
What would be your ideal scenario?
Would it be essentially, I mean, I don't know, I'm trying to formulate what I think
you would say.
Would it be something to the extent of black owned, black, a kind of segregation,
but not with the legal negative connotations of that,
where a black community builds itself up?
First of all, there's no such thing as a black community.
No?
You have a black skin, right?
Yeah.
So you're a black person, as far as the color thing come.
And blacks need to become individuals again.
How do we do that though?
Yeah, how do we do this?
By being honest with them, stop catering to them.
How are you honest with them?
What would you have to tell them?
To stop hating, they're very angry people now.
Blacks?
Yeah, the blacks are very angry.
And they were not like that growing up.
I didn't grow up an angry person.
I was angry with my mother because she tried to turn me away from my father, but we would get to that.
That's personal.
We have a black guy in the booth.
Would you prefer that we cover him up so he's not visible?
So you're not what?
So he's not visible to you if it's upsetting or distracting?
No.
Okay.
It's good to see him because I can tell he loves the white people.
He loves all people.
He does love all people.
He loves all people. He does love all people. He loves all people.
He does love all people.
He does not intend to do that.
He's very loving.
Right.
Yeah, he's a good guy.
Yeah.
That's right.
But what I would say to the blacks
is that they need to drop the anger.
So they can be more,
they can see what's really going on
because when you're angry, you cannot see clearly.
But how about angry whites? Cause there's angry. a same thing just drop your anger. Yeah but we're
talking about the blacks but the whites need to drop their anger too so that
they can overcome fear and be honest with the blacks. What do we do? Because the
whites are not telling the blacks the truth. What's the truth? So what do we
what should we tell the blacks? I'm not your problem. I never discriminate against you.
I got my own life to live.
I have to deal with my mess and my own life.
I'll have time to be hating you.
You are your own problem.
As an individual, you need to take responsibility for your own life
and stop hating.
The whites did hate them, black people, though.
I mean, pretty open.
Historically, it's been like...
Remember the whole separate drinking fountains and plus-y...
Slavery and then, you know, the segregation era wasn't really apartheid.
You can't find one black that was enslaved by the whites.
Well, not anymore. They're all dead.
And you can't find one black that was affected as a result of slavery.
What? I don't know.
Really?
Oh, that's a bold claim. That is pretty cool.
How so?
Walk us through.
You don't think there's a kind of a trickle down effect
from slavery that still permeates society?
No.
Really?
Not at all.
They just make that lie up.
Who did?
In order to, the so-called leaders,
they tell the blacks,
oh, you can't make it because you're black.
You can't make it because the white man's
trying to hold you back. But yeah, the blacks who are in the liberal whites who
are telling the black that they're making buku money, they're living in amazing
areas, their kids are going to all kinds of schools and getting jobs, but they
tell the rest of the black, oh you can't make it. Why not? How come you're black and
you can make it, but I'm black and I can't make it? Why not? Yeah. How come you're black and you can make it?
But I'm black and I can't make it. What's the secret?
They don't even tell them how to make it. But they just to be angry to use them for personal gain.
Clear though. You're saying you're amazing.
No, that's an interesting take and I do. I'm trying to spin it this best case scenario that you're telling people to empower themselves.
Yes.
Regardless of history or color or whatever.
History had history within.
This is now.
But you're saying there's no ramifications.
Zero. Zero.
I don't know.
And guess what happened?
What?
So my grandfather and grandmother had a lot of children
and they grew up on the plantation too.
But when they became adults and loved
and was some left some state
And they went to Indiana and Florida New York, you know what they did?
But they got jobs they bought homes they didn't get on the welfare
They didn't complain about white people and they were black and then their children are doing the same thing and their children
They are making it just fine because they have not
been taught to be hateful angry people and to blame someone else. Anyone that
blames someone else for their situation as an adult, a weak, pathetic, no good
people. Well I think we straighten out these blacks pretty well. What about these? What about these? What about these?
What's going on with these men liberals?
Let me just say this.
The whites need to overcome anger so they can overcome fear as well.
Because anyone who has anger has fear.
True.
And so the whites need to overcome anger so that they can love the black people.
Real love to tell them the truth
I'm not your problem. Yeah, you need to start thinking and doing for yourself
It has nothing to do with slavery my daddy my mama had nothing it will have nothing to do with slavery
Sure, it's just an illusion. It's a lie
But the whites won't tell them that because they have anger, so they have fear, and they are afraid of losing something.
They're afraid of being called racist,
they're afraid of losing material things.
And how can you love God and put material things
and what people say about you and think about you
before when it's right?
We're supposed to love one another,
and love one another means don't judge one another.
We're not gonna always agree,
but at least be honest
so we can see what's going on with what I was saying.
When you saw 12 years of Slave,
did you think there should have been more years?
Was that one of your thoughts?
I even went further than that.
I'm like, I'm gonna buy me a plantation down in Alabama.
Yes.
And I'm gonna put all the blasts back on the plantation.
This is wild, dude.
This is crazy.
So that I can teach them about family and about how to work hard and be individual.
Something tells me this will not be very well received as an idea.
Only for the lazy blacks. Okay. They were not accepted. Can I ask you, did they discipline you on the
plantation? Did they hit you? Who? The white people. No. They didn't whip you and stuff? No. I don't even see you hurt.
What about did your parents hit you? Did they give you corporal punishment
going? Oh, yeah. Yeah. They did. I mean, if we did something
wrong, you know, and they go sit down or this and we don't
listen. So what they would do is they would say go out and
bring me a switch and they will whoop us with the switch. But
the white man never beat you.
But let me ask you this though, because this is a thing that's still.
That's so crazy.
When I hear a black thing that I'm like, well, I saw roots.
OK, we watched that growing up.
Roots was a set up.
Kuntekinte was beaten violently by his master.
And I hated that.
Call me Toby.
His name was Toby.
And he's like, no, my name is Kuntekinte.
That's part of the brainwashing.
Yeah, yeah, the blacks were good at that.
So when the,
When the,
what about racist language?
That still exists today.
Did you not experience that growing up?
You know, like racist words and things being said to you,
But like,
Like what?
Gosh, I can't even think of one of the words.
Yeah, what, Tom? Yeah, Tom, I can't even think of one of the words. Yeah, what, Tom?
Yeah, Tom, like what?
You know, just not nice things.
What's that? A soundboard. You got a soundboard?
Oh, I do have a soundboard, yeah.
Let's see here.
And he's helping.
He's like, I know the word.
You know, like that? Yeah?
Nigger. That's him saying it.
That's any.
Remember that song? Don't call? Nigger. That's him saying that. That's any. Yeah. Remember that song?
Don't call me nigger.
Nope.
Whitey.
Don't call me whitey.
Nigger.
We need to dance to that.
Yeah.
What's up?
What do you mean?
It's in the 70s.
Don't call me, yeah.
Who wrote it?
Don't look at our Josh.
Why?
Don't call me N-word, whitey.
And you know why?
I remember why.
It was just a word.
Right.
It had no meaning.
Right.
But you would be with teases and the other like that.
It was not personal.
It was sly in the family stuff.
Oh, sly in the family stuff.
Yeah.
I remember.
Because it wasn't a big deal.
You know.
They have made that word a bit.
It's just a word.
It's just a word, I agree.
I agree.
They have made it a big deal to divide and conquer.
But I'm saying was that word and it's like something that was said a lot growing up.
Did you hear that a lot as a- No.
No.
Not at all.
You hear it on the plantation?
No.
And you never heard it in Alabama in the 50s and 60s?
No.
Really?
If I heard it, I don't remember because it wasn't a big deal.
Yeah. Right. Really, it wasn't a big deal. Yeah, really
No, I didn't grow up here that word
No, I only heard that word when I moved to the city like Los Angeles
And I will hear black people calling each other that and their rap music and think like that
What do you think I did not grew up here that word. What do think we know rap music rap crap yeah it has no talent at all it's anybody can rap
nasty words are you not a fan of anybody like NBA young boy anybody like that I
don't know who that is I don't know it is either I'm not very cool like Cardi B
and like hyper sexual raps you don't like public enemy like socially conscious
or Day Last Soul none of that I don't have I don't like public enemy, like socially conscious or Day Last Soul, none of that tribe.
I don't even know who those people are.
None of them?
No.
I'm sure I've heard of them.
I'm sure I've seen them, but not enough to hold onto.
What about Trick Daddy Dollars?
You not a fan of him?
No?
Eat a Buddha Gang?
Eat a Buddha Gang?
Is that a joke?
No.
No, it's true.
That really is this?
Yeah.
No, I've not heard of that.
But I want you to know about the so-called N word.
Yes, so-
It's just a word.
That's true.
But it's been used to divide and conquer.
Words are just words if you don't make a big deal out of words.
That's true.
And words, we can make them big deal out of them.
They will hurt you, but if you don't make them big deal,
they have no meaning.
Good explanation.
You know what I mean?
Yes, absolutely. This should be easy. Yeah. So. Well, I think that, I mean,
we kind of tried that approach, right? The reclaiming of the word. It happened in the 90s
where rappers were openly using it, calling each other, you know, and word and stuff. I don't know
if it worked. You don't know if it worked. Same with bitch, women calling each other, you know, and we're in stuff. I don't know if it worked. Same with bitch,
women calling each other a bitch. The word kind has become cool now.
Yeah, but to be fair, there's a lot of cunty bitches out there.
No, they're all cunty bitches. What about women? How do you feel about us broads?
I was already on gays first. Oh, I'm sorry, the gays. Yeah, let's go
to the gays. Yeah, let me do what these gays.
You show them how to overcome the father state that they're in.
Yeah.
Because it truly come from the resentment of their mothers.
That's where homosexuality comes from?
Yes.
The mothers impose their will on their children and they try to live through their children.
They impose, they tell their kids what they gotta do and because their father's not there
they tell it's what they gotta gotta do and because the father's not there
to protect the children from the mother,
they become angry and once you become angry,
you become like what you hate.
You become gay.
It's not, I understand it's a cover,
the game where it's a cover up, but it's evil.
And our battle is a battle between good and evil,
right versus wrong. And if we were to realize
that growing up, they never had all these different names or all this mess that's going
on. It was good or evil, right or wrong. And so we knew that we were dealing with evil
or we were dealing with good.
Can you break a gay from being gay? I work with all kinds of people from around the world.
Yeah.
Homophobias and all kinds of people.
Once they forgive, they forgive their mothers, the things start to change.
The gayness goes away?
Yeah, because they tried these camps and stuff.
Sometimes they end up still being gay.
But you know, God said that in order for us to live,
we must be born again.
And all who are born of the woman
must be born of the father.
And so once you realize that and you forgive your mother,
she's done the best she could,
she could help you, right?
That's true, I hate my mother.
Yeah, and once you forgive her,
realizing that she could not help herself,
then you start to change because whatever you're dealing with,
God would take that away from you
and give you back your original identity as a kid
where you were innocent,
and then you would start develop a clear mind
because angry people lives in their imagination,
they live in thoughts thoughts and they believe thoughts
and all thoughts except for practical thoughts,
all thoughts are all lies all the time, all the time.
Once you forgive.
If you forgive, will you like slowly kind of
become straight again if you're gay?
Yes.
Really?
Well, even that you become what God created you to be.
Which is not gay.
A son or a daughter of God.
Yeah.
Because anyone that has anger is a son or a daughter of the devil, of evil, right?
But you just become a child of God again, meaning that you will have perfect love.
You will not live in your thoughts and
imagination. You will not be all emotional with fear and doubt and loneliness and suicide of
thoughts and worry. All that would disappear and you would have a clear mind. I just had a great
idea. What if? And you would just, you would treat people because you understand your Savior.
You would treat people, all people in the same way.
What if you did a gay plantation?
Like a plantation where you invite gays.
It's a great idea.
So like that's an amazing idea.
Yeah.
And then you can like two different plantations for the first one we discussed and then a
gay.
Well, the ones that want to overcome their gayness.
Yeah. We will help them, but the ones that don't, you have to leave them in their hell, because
most people love their hell.
Yes, that's true.
They do.
Most people, you can tell people, oh, the way out is forgiveness.
What about bisexuals?
You gotta forgive your mother, and once you forgive your mother, forgive your father for
not protecting you from your mother, and then-
You're telling me the story.
That's what I deal with.
I should be gay by now.
Why don't you forgive your mother?
Oh, it's such a long story.
So you do resist your mother?
You're angry at your mother?
Oh, yes.
Are you serious or are you joking?
No, I'm being totally serious.
Really?
I mean, I did go through a bisexual phase in college,
which does explain it. And why are you angry at her? Oh, it's also... I mean, I did go through a bisexual phase in college, which does explain it.
She's kinda gay.
Yeah.
And why are you angry at her?
Oh, it's like, how much time do you have?
Wait, but let me ask you, what about bisexuals?
Are they half okay?
What about black gay bisexuals?
Oh!
I would battle, it's a battle between good and evil.
Yeah.
And if you're angry, you're on the side of evil,
so you have all this mess to deal with.
How about all these pronouns today?
Oh, the pronoun people.
They then get me started on those fours.
Hey, call me.
Dumber.
But that's what happens when you allow evil to reign your life.
Hormens oil.
It clouds your imagination.
And you do crazy things.
So we can get these gays kind of,
it seems like we can kind of straighten them out
if we get them to forgive their mothers.
And Blacks just have to release their hatred
and anger and be individuals.
The Black people problem is not white people.
Really, it's not at all, not one I own.
It's the same as white problems.
They resist their parents, it starts in the home.
And if you notice the men
and the women act just like the mothers, they get angry real easily. They snap. They're real
they offended really quickly. Yeah. Because they're emotional just like their mothers. And that's why
they must return to the father. They must forgive their fathers. And their fathers were not protecting them
from the mothers and the mothers for,
because they couldn't help themselves,
they had, they would not in that way
or treat them way by their mothers.
And so they're-
Well now you mentioned you and stuff with your mom.
Did you work this out with her?
Absolutely.
Yeah. When did you forgive her?
I was very emotional.
Yeah.
I lived in my thoughts and emotions.
And I had been going to different churches and I
would ask the preacher, you know, what's wrong with me? I'm so emotional and I can't really,
the church thing is not working. And they didn't, they, oh, read the Bible more. You gotta read the
Bible. So I finally asked God to let me see myself. And he allowed me to see that I resented my
mother. I thought I love my mother because I felt emotion for her
that felt my love, but that's not love, that's hate.
And that's when you're angry, that's what happens.
You feel good, and as soon as you're feeling good,
you get another thought or something happening,
now you feel bad, then you feel good,
and then you feel bad.
They're both evil, they're both lies.
And that's why you just want to jump off a bridge
Because you want to commit suicide, but once I went and forgave her
It was the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life
It's to face and I was 38 at the time and I had to go to her because God said when we forgive others
He will forgive us right what what I went to her and I was afraid but I I told you, you know, all my life, I've been resenting you.
Why did you resent her? Because she grew up, you grew up on a plantation?
No, because she resented my father. What happened was they were dating. And I don't know if I
should mention it, I've mentioned so much already. My mother and father had sex standing up.
Standing up. You ever had sex standing?
It's very difficult.
It's hard. It's a challenge.
It's very challenging. Especially when you have my type of length. But keep going.
That's true.
What a mess. What a mess.
Beta.
Beta.
What a beta man.
How can you deal with a man that can't have sex standing up?
Oh, he does. No, we do.
Oh, you do.
It's just not preferable.
It's not my first pick, let's say.
So tell me about your mother.
I have other strengths.
But so...
So my mother...
Then your dad are having sex standing up.
Right.
And so I thought he could make babies standing up, right?
So when I would be having sex with my girlfriend or something, I would try to stand so I didn't make babies standing up, right? So when I would be having a say with my girlfriend
and stuff, I would try to stand so I didn't make a baby.
But that's not true.
Oh yeah.
But anyway, and so my mother told my father
that she was pregnant, he's like, no.
She's like, I am.
He's like, we were standing.
We came, you can't make a baby standing.
And so my mother became angry at my father.
And at that point she wanted nothing else to do with him.
And so when I was born,
she tried to keep me away from him.
But inwardly I wanted my father.
I had this emptiness, this void,
this yearning for my father.
And I noticed that nothing else
to really fulfill that void.
And so she kept me away from him
when I became a teenager.
My grandmother told me who he was.
And so she would allow him to come over to see me.
And I remember even as a kid
when my father would come over,
when he was around, I felt like everything was fine.
I felt like God was in the house, right?
But when he would leave, I would feel that bored again.
So when I became a teenager, I went and talked to him
and got his side of what happened,
because women are not gonna tell you the children
are real truth about what really happened.
Women never do.
They always tell you that it was the father fault.
They never tell you it's their fault.
Fuckin' broads, let me ask you about it. And father fault. They never tell you it's their fault. Fucking broads.
Let me ask you about.
Let me just say this.
And so when I went and understood him,
his side of the story, so I forgave my mother
and for the first time she admitted
that she was wrong for doing that.
Wow.
And that helped you forgive.
She said I was wrong for that.
She apologized to me for that. That's huge. Yeah. That's that. She apologized to me for that.
That's huge.
Yeah.
That's huge.
She's capable of doing that.
A lot of people aren't.
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That's true.
So you have a special mother that she was able to do that.
Yeah.
And so, but when I forgave her and...
Your anger released probably.
Everything left.
Yeah.
Really.
And I have not been angry since then.
That's a lot.
And that was like 38 years ago.
And I was 30 some years ago.
I was 38 at the time, so I'm about 30.
And so I realized that I would battle,
it's not about between black and white.
It's not about between male or female.
It's about between good and evil.
And it's happening inside of us.
Yes, it's your own bullshit.
Yeah.
That you're projecting onto the world.
The most of time people are. That's true. I think a lot of own bullshit. You're projecting onto the world. Most of the time people are, that's true.
I think a lot of these pronoun folks are angry at the world,
but you're like really inside of them.
Yeah, who are you mad at?
Because it's not me.
Let me ask you this.
You are your own world.
In your own hell.
And you're in your own hell.
And when you work out your hell by forgiving
and stop believing all these-
I think Jesse's right.
I think I'm on his team now.
So why don't you forgive your mother?
Oh, I'm not gonna.
Are you able to say why?
She's dead.
She's dead.
She's dead.
But she's still gonna forgive her.
Okay.
Do you want to do it?
Should we do it together?
What do you mean?
Let's forgive her right now.
But it's only you.
But I can't talk to her.
She's dead.
But you can realize that you became just like her.
And then the scene-
Just like her?
Yeah.
And the thing-
His bad is her?
Oh my God, it's over for me.
You're not yourself.
If you resent her, you're not you.
You are her.
Oh yeah, I'm not a resent her anymore.
And if you realize you can help yourself,
that will call you to realize that she can help herself.
That something else was making you think
and do the thing you were doing. It wasn't you. And when you realize that about you, you can
realize that about her and you can forgive her.
Right. Like we're two peas in a pie because people get neurotic. Right. They get neurotic
because of this. This is what you're talking about. This is where the neuroses comes from.
Right. And so.
No, it's true. Yeah.
I believe you. You're a very smart man. Right. And so. Yeah. I believe you.
You're a very smart man.
But.
Very smart.
Are you married?
No.
No, no kids, no marriage.
I have a son.
I have two grandkids and two great grandkids
and one on the way.
Are you close with your son?
Yes.
Amazing.
Amazing.
But unfortunately the same thing happened with him
is that when I was in high school
my last year I got my girlfriend pregnant at the time and then I moved to Cali.
But you were laying down when you had sex.
Yeah, I was that time.
Okay.
And so I moved to California.
I graduated high school.
I moved to LA so I could get a job and get an apartment and she was going to come once
she had the baby, fit in high school and had the baby.
But her mother made her get married to another guy
because it was an embarrassment.
And those days for men, especially in the black community,
getting pregnant out of wetlock.
And so her family didn't wanna be embarrassed
when they made her marry someone else.
And she kept him away from me.
And so even though I tried to get him I went
to see him I had a lawyer and everything but you know how women once they get angry they
won't they'll make the kids suffer trying to hurt the father they'll destroy the children
so he was angry but when he became you know a teenager we talked I told him exactly what
happened and he finally realized she had lied to him. So now we're close
Yeah, that's good. Yeah, and he forgave his mother as well. That's important because once you have anger in anger
You're never gonna be
Free that's you actually have very very good inside about the anger towards true
Yeah, and it doesn't matter where you live. It doesn't matter how much money you have right?
It doesn't matter how many friends or enemies you have.
As long as you have anger,
you're never gonna be a free individual.
This is true.
It's a spiritual issue and nothing can resolve that
except you forgive and allow God to take over your life.
Very true.
So, women, most are fucking, you know, not that bright.
So like the other day, I'm on this flight
and I see abroad is the pilot
and I'm fucking losing my mind.
I wanna get off the plane.
A woman pilot?
Yeah.
Oh man, that happened to me coming here.
What'd you think?
Could you hear that already?
No.
So how do you know about that?
I'm telling you what happened to me.
It just happens to be. It happens to snow. So what did you do? I mean, I tried, I looked. So how do you know about that? I'm telling you what happened to me. What just happens to be?
It just happens to me.
So what did you do?
I mean, I looked for other flights.
You know?
Yeah, I didn't want to put my life in.
Oh, I'm messed.
Yeah.
And a woman's hands.
What'd you do?
So I'm sitting on the plane last night.
Yeah.
And a black woman come out of the pilot thing.
At the cockpit.
At the cockpit.
Yeah.
I'm like, oh my God.
And she didn't even look like an American black.
She looked like an African black.
Yeah.
Cause she like really black.
Yeah.
Like shiny black.
And she had that look.
Mm-hmm.
And so I asked the flight attendant,
do we have a female pilot here?
You asked for that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And she's like, yeah. I like why
How did that go when she's like well, well she could do it. I'm like no no
Yeah, that's an I asked this use affirmative ass and she's like one of those
Diversity things happening here. That's a a big thing now is that the United
is like the real champion of that, right?
Did you fly United?
Yeah, I did.
It was Delta, yeah.
The United really had it, you're right.
The United is really a proponent.
The CEO wants like 50% of the cockpit
to be diverse and female.
And I just, you know, here's the thing.
They put out a life set risk.
I mean, that's what I'm thinking.
I also think like, I mean,
I've seen fucking female doctors where like you gotta be fucking shit. Yeah
You know, so let me tell you what happened. Yeah, so so I told the flight attendant no
And she like laughing and then the flight guy they have you know the male flight attendant
He came by and he was like, oh, I hear that you asked about the flight attendant.
I'm like, yeah, I saw that we have a female flight attendant.
I wanted to know, is she affirmative action or, or, or one of those program things they
have for her.
And he kind of laughed and I guess he went to ask her.
And then he told me before he went he said
Well, there's a white male in there pilot with her
I feel better now. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, so how did she get in was it a
Action, so I don't know but what if she's a good pilot? Can she fly you if she's tested well and she does a good job or do you still have an aversion to her?
well and she does a good job or do you still have an aversion to her? Oh, and what about a black and female pilot? Is this a double whammy? No?
If she earned it, right, you know, like if we don't have all this mess going on.
And she probably won't want to raffle though.
And people were earned in their way. Yeah.
Pilot raffle.
Yeah. And people were earned in their way. I wouldn't have an issue with it.
Yeah.
Because I know that you were earning.
With all these short cuts.
They've taken out all the qualified people and put it in. This is how the lives that
risen the air, you know. Will you see the female doctor? So let me tell you what
happened. Oh yeah. Oh shit. Oh yeah. Oh okay. And so the black guy came and
the pilot attendant. No not yeah. Yeah. He was like a male flight attendant. Yeah. He was like. A male flight attendant. Yeah. Kind of game. We won't go there.
But,
but,
but,
but,
but,
so he came back.
He said, why not?
I said,
she might not know what she's doing, man.
She may be an affirmative action.
So they brought me,
he came back,
he gave me a little card thing.
And he said, well, this is for you. I'm like, what is it?
And it's talked about the airplane and the flight and pilots and things like that.
And I said, OK.
And so when I would get an off the plane, she came out and had her to come out of the flight
out of the pilot thing.
And and then the flight attendant said, oh, I want you to meet the pilot.
And she greeted me and I greeted her and I asked her.
I said, are you an affirmative action pilot?
How did she react to that?
She laughed, she smiled and it wasn't a big deal.
Okay.
And she was cold-witted.
Did she answer?
Yeah.
What'd she say?
I don't know, I can understand.
I don't know if she spoke English. Really? Right. What'd she say? I don't know. I can understand.
I don't know if she spoke English.
Really?
Right.
She had an accent?
But it sounded like an African accent.
Yeah, sure.
She might be.
Like an African accent.
She could be.
That would probably be a good...
So I don't know if she really spoke English, but she was friendly.
She was friendly.
Yeah.
She was just foreign.
I was friendly too.
Friendly foreign.
It wasn't personal. But Jesse I ask you, just from this preoccupation with male, female, black, not black, white,
like this is a lot of energy, no?
To expend to be concerned like what race is the cockpit lady, if it's a woman, but
I mean for you personally, don't you find it exhausting sometimes?
Well I was only concerned about my life as a risk. I'm in the air, and I know now that
they're all this mess about diversity. You think that's going to cloud the hiring policies,
the qualifications. Sure. Yeah. And so it didn't really matter that she was a female.
What matter was, did she earn it? Yeah, yeah
But she was right here. We have a we don't know but here's the thing We have her period. You know I mean or her boyfriend
That's true fucking broke up with her and then they're crying in the cockpit and decide to just like
Into the ground like they're you know bras are fucking emotional. They're so email. You're right. Yeah, it's true
No, I don't think you should put a woman like I don't think it should be women bus drivers
I don't think it should be women drivers period. Honestly, I think what some women, you know, they're not married. They have to work
Yeah, but I feel like there should be some type of service like a shuttle service to take so that they're not behind the wheel
You know, no, but if they're not married, they have to work. They should work to
Until they're married, but if they're married with children, then they shouldn't work. They should work because kids come first, right?
Yeah, you're telling me. Yeah. And that's how it was in the Guno day. The kids came first.
Yes. And so the father and the mother would make sure that the mother was home and the mother had
no problem with that. She understood the order of God and Christ. Christ and man.
But I think they did have a problem with it.
Man over woman and woman over children.
Because the women wanted out.
They got too much.
Out of what?
Actually, that's not true.
The wars happened.
World War II and they put women in the factories.
That was the beginning of it.
As women got sent to work by the government.
And then they got used to it.
When I was brought up, I didn't hear women complain
about being home and raising the man's children.
As a matter of fact. That's because they never had any other options.
My mother other than me had nine other children.
Holy shit.
Oh, black.
I was nine, she had eight other, number nine, right?
Were they all black?
All as the ace of space.
Wow.
And the beauty is she never worked while raising children.
Yeah. Lucky, bro.
Never worked.
My father, my stepfather, took care of her and the kids.
And my mother was fine with that.
And then once my, all the kids became adults and my mother finally got a job because she
just didn't want to sit around home anymore.
But when I was growing up, that's all I knew for the most part.
And women were not, they didn't think
that they were second class,
or they didn't think that the man,
they felt less than the man, or anything like that,
because they knew the order of God.
And they didn't mind doing that.
And they didn't have all this mess going on,
telling women they were better or less.
But do you think it's reasonable
that a woman do a job, like,
even if they're like qualified,
with like they have lesser intellect
and they're slower decision making.
He's not saying that.
I'm talking.
Right.
What the hell is wrong with you?
So I'm not understanding your question
because that's not what I'm saying at all.
I'm asking though.
No, I don't think that.
You don't think that.
No.
You just think that they need to earn that right,
that position.
What position? Like a a position like a pilot
Yes, just not be just like you or I will have to earn it
They shouldn't just throw us in the cockpit because of our color right or because we're male
But because we know the job that's a good earn the job. I mean, that's what made America great
That made America great.
I had one of the few husbands that had like,
I could be wrong, but almost 19 kids, if not 19.
And this was growing up in so-called segregated Alabama.
There, and they bought land and property
and none of the kids, if they worked a few,
they still went to school
and they all graduated from college,
and they became doctors and lawyers.
And it was like, when I was a kid growing up,
this was one of my aunts and her husband.
Bro, I'm more astounded that I didn't know
there were plantations in 1950s still.
That's how stupid I am.
I thought that stuff ended before that.
Yeah, because you're a woman.
Yeah, see?
Makes perfect sense.
But things are like, go ahead. Are you a Christian?
Yeah, are you?
What yeah, you're sure. No, I mean, I just I'm not practicing. Oh
I was raised Christian like as a Christian, but I don't go to church anymore
Do you understand the order of God the order like his his?
His message his rule? God in Christ. Mm-hmm.
Christ in man. Yeah. Man over woman over children. Yeah. Do you understand that order?
Fuck yeah, that was awesome. He's messing around, right? No, I'm not. I know you're
a comedian, so I can't tell if you're a mess of a writer. No, I'm being serious. I, I, I, I,
I'm down with that order. Wait, food again, it's God, angels. God and Christ.
God and Christ are one.
Christ and man.
Christ and man.
Well, God and Christ.
God and Christ.
Christ over man.
Christ over man.
Man over woman, woman over children.
Woman over children.
That's the order that we grew up with.
And that order worked.
Yeah.
And that's why America was an amazing country at one time.
Because blacks and whites understood that order.
So even in Alabama, the blacks and the whites,
I'm sure you could find some mean people eating
at any point in life, right?
Those that don't like the order of God.
But that's why blacks and whites who believed in that order
treated one another the way we would like to be treated.
Yeah, I still have a problem with female pilots,
but I also wanna say that like... Things are... Do you really have a problem with it? Oh yeah, I don't think another the way we would like to be yeah, I still have a problem with female pilots, but I also want to say that like
Things are really have a problem. Oh, yeah
And all these gay things now trans gaze things are so weird like look at the world today. I mean look at this
Family is broken
Summerton in his tit cups
Babies for seven hours now today. Turn up the volume.
Look at these six, eh?
You know, like.
Imagine a pig with tits.
Who would have thought?
Well, it's time to take them off and have a shower
because pigs are starting to stink up the high heavens.
So let's get these tit cups off.
I mean, this is.
Oh, there's one.
This is the world today, though.
You know, putting out.
Oh, they eat here soon.
But that's not the world today.
But it is the world.
Sure is.
Why not?
We see these folks all the time.
It's not the world today.
What would you say it is?
That it's him today.
Oh, that's true.
That's one individual that is responsible for his own action, one individual.
That's not the world.
We are our own world.
That's true. And... We not the world. We are our own world. That's true. And just because someone else does something
that acts in a certain way, we don't have to be apart. That may have issues, whatever
his world is going to end him, but that's not the way the world is. That's the way he
is. And we've always had good and evil in the world because evil works through human
beings. Good works through human beings.
Good works through human beings.
So this is evil, but you say that this is the evil side of the force.
That's the evil side of this guy, just saying working through him.
And so he is right because he has issues that he's not dealing with.
Would you say this is the devil?
It's something else is driving him.
The devil is in this man is what you had you are either your nature your mindset is either of evil or good
It's either God or good. That's why God said we must be born again
Because but that guy this this is not the way the world going is this is America America the place
America is an amazing place. Yeah. It's still America, right?
But you have people that unlike the good old days
where boys were boys and men were men,
women were women, girls were girls,
they understood the spiritual battle.
That is not as understood today as it was then,
but this is that guy, those is his issue,
they're not my issue or your issue or her issue
or anyone else but him.
One of the things-
It's not the way of the world.
That's become more prominent today in today's conversations are like trans people.
They're much more prominent today than they were like even when I was a kid.
Like what's your opinion on you know the trans movement, trans rights, just like the the the
fact that there that's a much more prevalent thing
in society today.
I had, there was a guy called my radio show
the other day last week, and he was in his 40s.
And he said that his mother had married another woman
and that his mother and this woman raised he and
his three brothers. He had two other brothers and that they would they treated
the kids horribly right because whatever and the boys I believe he said his
older brother had turned into a transgender person and something about
the middle brother but I forgot what he said and then he was
trans working on becoming a trans person. But then he heard the message of forgiveness
that he needed to forgive his mother because he was angry at her and you become like what you hate
and he and as a result of that, in his 40s,
he realized that he needed to forget it, so he went and forgave his mother.
And as a result of that, he felt better.
He could see a little clearer, he felt better,
because he knew he didn't want to be addressed,
whatever that is.
And so he stopped taking the hormone things.
Now he's better.
So it's just like the gay thing.
It's just like the gays.
It's just like the gays.
Yeah.
May I ask you something, Jesse Lee Peterson? He's working on's better. So it's just like the gay thing. It's just like the gays. It's just like the gays. Yeah.
May I ask you something, Jesse Lee Peterson?
He's working on getting better.
And so he stopped.
And he said, but he's 40 because he hated him, but he's still living with her.
And so he was going to forgive her and move on with his life.
And he was miserable, but now that he can see, because angry people cannot see, right?
Of course.
He said, but now he can see and he understand,
he feel better.
So they can overcome it if they were to take control
of their own life and start trying to understand
what's going on in them.
A lot of people don't have it.
But may I say, because they're not told that.
They're not taught it.
Right, then I say that this is you, this is not you.
Your issue, yeah.
This is not you, this is something else that made a home in you that made you do the things that you don this is not you. Your issue, yeah. This is not you, this is something else
that made a home in you that makes you do the things
that you don't wanna do.
Can I ask you this?
America, especially today, it's full of the trans people,
women are voting, women are in the Pentagon,
gay marriage, all this stuff.
America is, it's in chaos.
Do you think somebody like you
with your conservative values,
would you be happier living in North Korea or maybe Russia? Because Putin agrees with a lot of the
stuff you're saying. Have you been to Russia? Not yet. Yeah. You would like it. I think you might
dig it. I think you might dig it. I love America. No, I know. I'm totally loving America. Even as a
kid, I loved America. As a kid, you know, we used to celebrate
the 4th of July in America and the 4th of July and all that.
So I still have the same feeling for my children.
I don't always want to do like Afghanistan,
where you could like,
like if a woman says something stupid,
you can just throw a rock at her head, you know?
The problem is women were not created to lead.
They were created to follow truth and and when you try to
put them in give them a leadership role it's a role leadership role it's not in their nature
you try to make them do something just not in their nature to to lead and that's why things
doesn't work out. I remember growing up
Especially in Chicago, Indiana used to live in there over there and
Women didn't even like working for other women. Yeah, they used to say that hey, I don't like I don't want a woman boss It's too emotional. Yeah, she's too over reactionary. It's not in her to leave
So it was known but it wasn't thought of as a bad thing
It's not in her to leave. So it was known, but it wasn't thought of as a bad thing.
It wasn't thought of as a less than. It was just the order of God and women who understood that had no problem with that at all. Women, they ruin everything. They ruin the earth and then they
shouldn't even go to space. Remember when the Challenger exploded? What was wrong? There was a
woman on there. Remember that? Can you imagine being in outer space with an angry woman? Oh my
God. You know that that's that rocket probably just killed itself.
I've probably heard the woman talking.
Shattering.
It was like, fuck this.
Too many feelings.
The rocket was like, what the?
Now what about the qualities that other races have?
Like have you ever, I just got back from Asia.
Oh yeah.
And they really seem to have their shit going over there.
Do you think that's an innate Asian quality?
It's this Asia controlled by men for the most part.
Yes.
Yeah, that's how I was here when it was controlled by men.
Yeah, it's mostly men.
And I counsel with men and women around the world.
And they're having the same spiritual issue that all human beings have.
If the father's not the head of the wife and protecting the
children and guiding them, they have that. I counsel with them, they have the same problem,
they say the same thing, but maybe outwardly, the world, their surroundings may be rather
better become men.
Right.
They're not white. I thought the white people do things best.
Will Asians be considered second best to the white people?
Well, I mean in America.
White men, sorry, white men.
I was talking about my country.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but in your country, we have Asians.
Remember what happened with Obama?
Remember Obama, the fallist Messiah?
The fallen Messiah?
Yeah, Obama.
He was a fallen Messiah?
And how about the big mama Michelle?
Big mama?
Yeah, remember big mama Michelle?
I didn't know people called her big mama.
Oh yeah.
Really?
She's a big mama.
Do you believe the rumors that she's actually a man?
Do you believe these rumors?
I never fall for rumors.
Then why is she a big mama?
Because when they were in the White House,
she was trying to tell people
what they could feed their children.
Oh right.
You know, and she wanted to pass laws where you could feed, telling you what to feed your
own kid. Yeah.
Well, she would eat it up all of the ribs and tamales.
She would pick it out on ribs and tamales. Oh, mama said, Michelle, love her tamales.
Yeah. Big mama's nice.
And then we had, I think we had like a picture
of her somewhere eating a coffee.
She had some nice ribs.
And she know black people love ribs.
Yeah, I love ribs too.
But she was trying to tell other people what they could eat.
And it reminds me of when, you know,
in the black community, I don't know about the white community,
they call the grandma Big mama. Yeah, right?
And when big mama come over she get the best chicken she get the best part of the food
As you would tell her
Drive you the white meat or something right? Yeah, but she don't remind me of that. So that's why I call big mama
If you don't like Obama sure Obama got in there. I told the phone do not vote for Obama
Yeah, why he's not gonna make the country better. Why but why though he bet? Oh, but
Now he's a socialist. What you're saying you think his hair and blackness would make him a bad president
You know because he's a socialist. You thought he was a social
Rolling in people if he were a Republican, would you be down
for a black Republican president?
If they were from the old school,
if they went into the race thing,
if they were not,
they know what it means to be an individual.
They knew who it meant to work hard and earn your way.
I would have no power with it.
And then who do you, in your estimation,
who are the finest American US presidents?
Who's your fave?
I feel like I know the answer.
That's my favorite question.
Yeah. Really?
You have been a whole run.
Despite my womanness, I asked a good question.
You have been a whole run.
Okay. Here we go.
The one, the only.
Ronnie?
No, it's Donnie. Oh, Trump. It's Trump. The great white hope. Yeah. Wow's Donnie oh Trump this Trump the great white hole yeah wow
wow the great white hole or is your second favorite president Biden who Joseph Biden. Are you friend with this? What?
Bada.
Bada.
Bada.
Yeah, he's pretty Bada.
Wait, why are liberal men Bada's?
Let's discuss this.
They haven't overcome their mothers.
Yeah.
They don't go back to the wall roads, go back to mother.
This is spiritual battle.
They're basically gay.
Every man and woman.
Just like the gays.
Must be born again of the father.
Even a woman, she has to overcome her mother
because the mother recreate the woman in her image as well.
That's why she repeats what the mother does.
She's angry, she's opposed on her children
and do the same thing.
But I like Donald Trump because he is from the old school.
He does work for us.
He's not trying to, all these social programs.
You think they're gonna, there is.
And so he's doing it.
It would be like, if you hire someone
to work for your radio, see it, right?
You don't care what color they are.
No, no.
You want them to come and do their job.
Yes, yes.
Get paid and go live their life, right?
Right.
That's what Donald Trump does.
But what do you think about, you know, there's under,
Tom and I lived in a really bad neighborhood
and we were very broke when we first got married, right?
We were poor, we had no money.
We lived in a shitty apartment.
Right.
Brand new comedians.
And I remember when I lived in that community
in that very poor community.
El Salvadorian.
It was really, really shitty.
It was full of gang bangers and like, it was just oppressive.
Like you felt there was no really shitty. It's full of gang bangers and like it was just impressive like you felt yeah, there was no way out
So like we're lucky we could get out of that neighborhood, you know, we get some jobs
We got the fuck out the minute we could but if you grow up in that environment like how do you propose that people pull themselves out?
It's hard if you don't grow up seeing it. You don't have a dad. You don't have a
Education how are we gonna fix this?
If you're the president, how do you fix it?
When you become an adult, take control of your own life.
There is not one situation that you cannot overcome.
You're not stuck in anything.
Once you take responsibility and don't follow the crowd,
you become an individual and work on your life.
There's nothing that can stop you.
That's true.
Really?
No, that's true.
But as long as you think with the crowd,
you need to be a part of the group
and you need to have people to validate you
or like you or dislike you or do this,
you're not gonna make a presentation for it.
You can basically make the case that like,
let a white kind of give you an example.
Yeah.
You know?
That's a good idea. Yeah, just follow the Yeah. You know? That's a good idea.
Yeah, just follow the path of a white.
That's an amazing idea.
To follow the whites.
Thank you.
Amazing.
Amazing.
When I first moved to LA, I lived in South Central LA.
And for the first time in my life,
I seen gangs and things like that, right?
And I couldn't relate to it at all
because in Alabama I didn't grow up.
I don't even know of anybody fighting in Alabama.
I had one fight in high school
and that was over the baseball bat.
It was my time to bat
and the other guy thought it was his time.
We fought over the bat, never fought again, right?
And but when I moved to LA,
it was in South Central LA with the blacks
and they were game banging. They were blaming.
The community went down because when I first moved there,
mostly white in that area, some of the black,
it was a nice area.
But then the blacks started moving in,
the whites moved out and just went to hell.
And I'm like, why don't the white,
black people cut the grass and paint the house
and do the same thing?
They wouldn't do it.
I had not seen that before because we were taught to take responsibility for
our own lives as an adult.
And so when I moved away, my parents didn't worry about me.
I didn't have to call home every day.
My mama wasn't calling me every day.
And they didn't worry because they had, by example, and taught me growing up,
how to be responsible for me and that no no one else was responsible for me but me.
Did you ever consider leaving LA?
Because it seems like it's kind of an interesting choice
for you to move there, and then you're seeing it.
Did you ever go like, I'm leaving this place?
Or where you just sat on LA?
I remember when the LA became a hellhole overnight.
Really?
When I first went to LA, I walked off the plane,
it was paradise.
Yeah, what year did you go?
It was clean, 68.
It was clean, beautiful, opportunities everywhere,
no homeless people on the streets and things like that.
And it stayed like that for a long time
and then overnight it just changed, right?
How long into that did it change?
I would say over the last, maybe the last 10 years I started seeing the change.
In the first 10 years that you were there?
No.
Or you mean the last 10 years?
The last 10 years.
And is it the blacks, but do you think it's because of the black people?
No, it's because we have a liberal government.
Yes, yeah.
What about the homeless?
Do you think, which we do with the homeless?
I would make them work for themselves.
I would not get them government or program free houses
and free everything.
But what if they're mentally ill?
Like they're schizo-frenic
or maybe they have mental disorders?
How should we treat them?
I would do whatever I can to help them overcome that.
But I would not take care of them
because as long as you take care of someone,
they're never gonna get better.
They're never gonna get better. they're never gonna get better.
They're never gonna get better.
They're never gonna get better.
What if we could ship them away?
Oh, yeah.
Like to the gay island or whatever.
Oh, yeah.
You have it homeless and gay together.
Homeless.
But like Karen Batsford is out there, she would house them all.
Yeah.
She would have more hotel rooms, hotels to house them.
That's not gonna help them at all because you put them in free
houses, they're gonna destroy the house. And some of them meanest, nastiest, unconcerned, don't care
people, homeless people. They'll go on your property and they will dig in the trash and they'll put
all the trash out of the trash can and they'll they'll leave it there They'll take what they want and leave it right on your property some of them. You tell them that you need to move that
they will
They would get mad at you for telling them. No, you can't do this disrespect
You can even argue that they were homeless or I mean no people. That's why they're homeless
That's they're even worse than blacks. They refuse to, that's right.
Yeah.
Well, almost right.
Homeless are worse than the black.
And not all, not all, not all.
In every shirt, homeless, they're worse than blacks.
Not all, not all, not all, not all, but most.
99.99999.
Yeah.
Can we stop for a minute?
Yeah.
I got a P.
Sure. I got a lot of coffee
and then we'll wrap up. How long have we been talking for?
A while. A while. Yeah. I mean, we're gonna. It's gonna be a quick wrap up. Let me come
back. So yeah. Amazing. Amazing. And we're back. We went to the quick bathroom braced
um before we wrap up. I gotta say to see you first. So I had one of your guys on my show, the Fallen State.TV.
The Fallen, remember that?
The Fallen State.TV.
And I guess you guys used to be in LA,
California, right?
And then you moved here, but that guy stayed.
What's his name?
Ryan?
I had fun with him.
He's great.
He had fun with you.
He had fun with him. He's great. Yeah, he had fun with you. He had a lot of fun with you.
But my producer that introduced him,
Pat Amon, I had never heard of Ryan to be on the right.
And I guess Ryan thought he was a white guy.
But my producer, I want me to tell you guys hi,
he love you guys.
Wait, Ryan, you're saying that Ryan Sickler
thought he was a white guy?
I think he thought my producer was some little white guy. I guess he must have said that when he came on you guys. Wait, Ryan, you're saying that Ryan Sickler thought he was a white guy? I think he thought my producer was some little white guy.
Oh.
I guess he must have said that when he came on you guys.
Oh.
To talk about.
Oh, that your producer's white.
Yeah.
You're saying that's a mistake.
Yeah.
Your producer's not white.
He's not white.
What is he?
I don't know if he's Mexican.
He's not Mexican either, but he's one of those kind of countries.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you for clarifying, though. That's very important. not Mexican either, but he's one of those kind of countries.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for clarifying, though.
It's very important.
Sorry, sorry, tell me what's Danny.
But Danny is...
But is one of your producers white?
Maybe?
You have multiple producers?
My radio producer's white, Sean, the guy that's...
Yeah.
And then the Fall estate.tv.
That's Daniel.
A brown guy. He's a brown guy
Yeah, but he's not white got you. Yeah, good. Okay, maybe Ryan thought he was tan or something, you know
Well, maybe because all likes getting people looking like there you go. That's true. That may be it
Do you think all right?
Right had a great time with you. He came in here. He was fun. He had a lot of fun. It was absolutely fun.
But I do want to say there are a lot of people hurting today.
And they think that something outside can fix them.
They think getting married would solve the problem.
They think having children would solve the problem.
They think having a different job would solve the problem
or getting a degree would solve the problem.
But the only thing that's gonna make you free
and solve all your issues within yourself
is that you must forgive.
And most people have been taught to forgive their father,
but they have not been taught to forgive their mother.
And so they still leave them in limbo.
You gotta forgive your mother and father.
Well, it sounds like it really worked for you
when you were 38.
It changed your whole life.
It changed everything.
And I'm working with men and women of all races.
At my nonprofit with Bond, we have a every first Thursday night, we have meet-up for
men only every third Thursday night for ladies only and Sunday morning for everybody.
And there are men and women from
around the world, all races, black, white, Mexican, Chinese, Asian, they're working on
themselves now. And they understand that they've been deceived, that the issue was always with
them and that they had to forgive, forgive their mothers and forgive their father. And
once they did that, something changed right away.
Now, see, this I believe is your real message message Jesse Lee Peterson. I feel like this is your this is your
You're your pastor too. Correct. Are you from the church? I do feel like this is your real message and this stuff about the whites being
The best and all this this isn't the truth. No
It I'm just joking around because when I was growing up black people
I'm just joking around because when I was growing up, black people, Tuskegee, Tuskegee the institution was found by a black man.
Yeah.
Booker, he watched it, right?
And he grew up in slavery.
He grew up in slavery, but he was because when you read up from slavery, he tell you,
you know what, I didn't hate the white people.
Even in those days, they sold his family off and, but he stayed away from anger.
He stayed away from anger.
He stayed away from anger and he got help
from white people and black people.
Anger is the real curse.
Anger is your enemy.
Absolutely.
Anger is evil.
Most definitely.
Anger is hatred.
Yes.
And you're gonna project it out into the world.
You're gonna project it out.
I agree.
And you would say that the world is against you.
But it's your own enemy inside of you. This is your mind and I agree. Yes, and you state that the world is against you Yes, but it'd be it's your own enemy. It's out of you. This is your mind and this is true
And people who are angry are down a dark path for sure
They are absolutely regardless of race gender whatever it is. Yes, nothing to do with race
Yeah, and it's what every human being that's why guys said we must return to the father
There will come a time when I return the children to the fathers and the father to the children
Do not believe that anger is normal. You don't need anger in your life
That's your enemy and so you must forgive well, this is a great. This is a great message to wrap up on
We had a really good time with you here. Thank you for coming. Thank you so much
It was amazing
Really good time with you here. Thank you for coming. Thank you so much. It was amazing. It was amazing. And where can people... I didn't want to tell you this. Do you have anger? I don't feel angry. Oh, do you have anger?
Do you have anger? I mean some. Sure. Do you have anger? Sure. Yes. And so why not let it go?
That's a good question. How to let it go. This is, but this is a how. Forgiveness. How? Forgiveness.
Baby, you can't tell me that you're without anger. It doesn't creep up on you every now and then.
No.
Where did that come from?
You're totally absolved.
I can absolutely promise you.
You've figured it out then, my friend.
Because I forgave.
I realized that my mother did the best she could.
My father did the best he could.
They can help me.
And so everyone I deal with now, because I don't have the anger, I can see that they
can't help me. it's not personal.
They just can't help it.
Angry people can't help it.
I said a homeless camp on fire on Cesar Chavez here.
Amazing.
Yeah.
Good for you.
That was like.
Angry would make you do that.
Yeah, yeah, but then it had a great result.
Yeah.
That's true.
They all fell into the lake.
That's right.
Lake of fire. But...
I do want to say to the men, and not just you, but me or any man, any male that has
anger is a woman.
Hold on, let's say that again.
Every male...
Any male, I don't care where.
Any male that has anger is a woman.
He is his mother. That's rough. Nothing worse anger is a woman. He is his mother.
That's rough.
Nothing worse than being a woman.
Nothing worse than being a woman.
Troy, you're telling me I need it.
And it's not the woman per se, right?
But is that spirit...
It's a feminine energy.
It's a feminine energy.
It's that spirit that's in her.
It's kind of broad energy.
It would pass down to her from Adam and Eve days. Wait a minute. What Eve listen to the serpent shouldn't have fucking done that right and the serpent became her God
Yeah, and then and then sin entered into the world, right? Yeah, and then Adam listened to the woman and the woman became his God
Jesus and that's the battle that we're having now. It's the spirit. It's not the person itself.
But so the mother can't help it
because that spirit been passed on since Eve.
And the man cannot deal with the woman in the right way
because the woman is his God.
So once he forgive his mother and his father,
then his life would change just like that.
And so with the woman, and you'll be free.
Let me ask you.
You live in this evil world,
but you wouldn't be a part of it.
Where can people find you more?
Like there's the radio show.
How often is that?
Go to rebuildandamanned.com.
Rebuilding.
Rebuilding.
The man.com.
Rebuilding.The man.com.
And then the fallen state, is that on YouTube?
The fallen state.tv.
Dot TV, that's also on YouTube.
Okay. Jesseleapederson.com. Jesseleapederson.com. Dot TV. It's also on YouTube. Okay.
Jesseleapederson.com. Jesseleapederson.com. So there's all the places you can find them.
You can listen to them. This was a fun and insightful and at times very informative and
hilarious conversation. Thank you for stopping by. It was amazing. It was amazing. Well actually
you know what to do. Gays, you know what to do. Female pilots, step out of it.
Whites, you know what to do.
Tell the white people to stop being afraid.
Stop being afraid.
Overcome mama, they will overcome fear.
Forgive the female pilot.
Stop being afraid, white.
Stop.
Feel, let the fear go, let the anger go,
and all of us can unite as one.
And you will be able to live in this world.
Yes.
And have perfect peace.
While the, while hell is gone on all around you,
you will not be a part of hell.
Forgive your mother.
Don't call me Whitey.
Forgive your mother.
Don't call me Whitey, honky.
Can I bring Shania here for a minute?
Say hello to you guys.
Oh yeah, we're just wrapping up.
If he can't do it.
So wrap it. Just after let's wrap up and then bring him in. Okay, well thank you all for a minute. Say hello to you guys. Oh yeah, we're just wrapping up. If he can't do it.
We just have to wrap up and then bring him in.
Okay.
Oh, I mean, thank you all for having me.
Absolutely.
It's amazing.
I'm not stopping you.
Amazing, of course.
And we have treats for you to try too.
Yes.
Oh, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was amazing.
It was amazing.
Thank you guys.
Any questions for me?
No, that's it.
Thank you for watching.
I think we covered it.
Good night. Bye. I would like to give a shout out to all my sexy BWs.
So fine, so delicious,
strong, woke up, care, male complexion.
Just make my heart melt, baby.
Just by looking at your fine ass.
All are delicious.
I ain't talking about buffalo barbecue wings,
these are baby.
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